The NS Profile: Sam Harris

Sam Harris, one of the “Four Horsemen” of new atheism, believes that science can never be reconciled

Sam Harris, the American writer, neuroscientist and leading proponent of the new atheism, rarely invites indifference. The novelist Marilynne Robinson wrote recently that his "aspirations . . . contain much that is not laudable". The writer and commentator Andrew Sullivan once accused Harris of a "form of intolerance that reminds me of some of the worst aspects of fundamentalism". The columnist Theodore Dalrymple said of a passage from Harris's first book, The End of Faith, that it was "quite possibly the most disgraceful that I have read in a book by a man posing as a rationalist".

His supporters are no less voluble. The jacket of his latest book, The Moral Landscape: How Science Can Determine Human Values, carries gushing testimonials from Ian McEwan ("Reason has never had a more passionate advocate") and Richard Dawkins ("As for religion, and the preposterous idea that we need God to be good, nobody wields a sharper bayonet").

When I meet Harris - a dapper man of 43 who bears a decided resemblance to the actor Ben Stiller - at the office of his English publishers in London, the bayonet is out more or less straight away, even though he is suffering from jet lag after a flight from New York.

A few days before our meeting, the news had broken of the award to Sir Martin Rees, Astronomer Royal and former president of the Royal Society, of the £1m Templeton Prize. The prize, given annually by the John Templeton Foundation, rewards individuals who have made "exceptional contributions to affirming life's spiritual dimension" - or, as Harris puts it in The Moral Landscape, "split[ting] the difference between intellectual integrity and the fantasies of a prior age".

“Rees looks like a cagey and successful choice from the Templeton Foundation's point of view," Harris tells me. "He's certainly not who you'd expect to be shilling for the cause. He is on the record as being a non-believer, but is too politic for his own good, or for our common good. He thinks science shouldn't be in the business of criticising religion, and that scientists can do their job perfectly happily without ever engaging in a contest with religion - but I think that's fundamentally untrue."

Zero-sum game

That "religion and science are in a zero-sum conflict with respect to facts" is one of the central contentions of The End of Faith, the book with which Harris, then aged 36, made his name when it was first published in 2004. He was followed into print in 2006 by the philosopher Daniel Dennett (with Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon) and by Dawkins, who argued in his bestseller The God Delusion that religion is the enemy of science. Dawkins, like Harris, meant all religion - not just the fundamentalist, apocalyptic varieties whose adherents are indifferent to the fate of this world because they await imminent transposition to another.Dawkins, Dennett and Harris later made common cause with Christopher Hitchens, whose polemic God Is Not Great was published in 2007. That year, the quartet convened at Hitchens's apartment in Washington, DC for a discussion, conducted over cocktails, that was filmed and subsequently released as a DVD under the title The Four Horsemen.

As Harris observes in The Moral Landscape, somewhat ruefully, there is now a "large and growing literature" attacking "the so-called New Atheists" (a term coined in 2006 by Gary Wolf in an article for Wired magazine).

“It is often said that we caricature religion," he writes. "We do no such thing. We simply . . . take the specific claims of religion seriously." What Harris means is that the New Atheists treat religion - of the kind espoused by the mildest Anglican as much as the ravings of the most incendiary Islamist - as consisting of a set of purportedly factual claims about the nature of reality, the origins of the universe and so on, to which believers assent as they would to an ordinary empirical proposition about the weather or the colour of my trousers. If that is what religion is, then it conflicts with science by definition.

When I try to suggest that there might be more to religious faith than this description allows, Harris is emphatic. "Look at the New Testament," he says. "It makes a variety of claims that are by definition at odds with what we know to be scientifically plausible."

Yet there are many eminent scientists who also happen to be religious believers - John Polkinghorne, for instance, the mathematical physicist and Anglican priest who won the Templeton Prize in 2002, or Francis Collins, formerly director of the National Centre for Human Genome Research in the United States, who was appointed director of the National Institutes of Health by President Obama in 2009. Why, if atheism is the world-view that best accords with the scientific evidence, do so many intelligent people persist in faith?

For Harris, this can be explained only as a "failure of intellectual honesty". He is parti­cularly scathing about Collins. "There's something repugnant about the fact that he [is a believer] and one of the most prominent and influential representatives of science in the United States," he says. "And he's not some weak-tea Christian - he thinks the dead will walk again and will be remade out of new matter. And not only that, he doesn't keep those crazy convictions private. He publishes on the mutually reinforcing character of those two world-views [science and religion]."

However, it is not Christians such as Collins who are the most vociferous critics of Harris and the other New Atheists. The most powerful assaults have come from fellow atheists and secularists. Take the literary critic James Wood, who was brought up in an evangelical Christian household but is now an atheist. Wood has written of the "parochialism" of new atheism. Religion, for Harris and the others, he argues, "seems to mean either fundamentalist Islam or American evangelical Christianity". More "relaxed or progressive" forms of Christianity tend not to register - nor do Hinduism or Buddhism, both of which Harris flirted with in his early twenties after dropping out of an English degree at Stanford University, or Judaism, the faith into which he was born.

Harris swats away the criticism when I put it to him. "If you want to take that tack, at least do me the courtesy of acknowledging that at least 50 per cent of the American population is fundamentalist. This is not a fringe problem. And in the Muslim world it's the same.

“But if you want to talk about some far more relaxed, noncommittal, non-dogmatic form of Christianity or Islam, then let's talk about what it's committed to, because it's committed to some propositional claims. If it's committed to none, then we're just talking about someone who happens to like the Bible as literature, or who happens to like going to St Paul's because he likes the architecture." The problem with this response is that it does not address whether there is more to religion than beliefs about the world. The philosopher Philip Kitcher, an avowed secularist, thinks Harris is attached to something he calls the "belief model of religion", which he finds wanting.

“Besides beliefs," Kitcher wrote in a paper on "militant modern atheism" published last October, "there are emotions, aspirations, desires and actions . . . Those who merely believe, if there are any such people, are not full participants in the religious life." In other words, living in a moral community in which one engages in shared practices is as important to the religious person as believing in a set of dogmas about the metaphysics of transcendent entities.

Beyond belief

Harris does not dispute that religious concepts articulate a moral vision as well as purport to describe the world. But he wishes that scientists wouldn't leave morality to those of faith, and The Moral Landscape is devoted to explaining why they need not do so. "Secular scientists very commonly think that science has nothing to say about morality and human value, and so it's not science's job to tell people what constitutes a good life," he argues.

In the new book, Harris tries to give a scientific answer to the question of atheist morality. "Questions about values", he writes, "are really questions about the well-being of conscious creatures" - and well-being is something that is measurable, scientifically verifiable. The "science of human flourishing" that he lays out in the book is an updated version of utilitarianism, in which well-being replaces pleasure as the source of moral value. Crudely put, in the view that Harris defends, an action is right to the extent that it promotes well-being.

Judging the rightness of an action by its consequences in this way seems to lead Harris, however, to countenance practices that most of us would regard as morally repugnant - such as torture. His arguments about this in The End of Faith caused such controversy that he now maintains a page on his website devoted to the topic. He describes his position thus: "collateral damage is worse than torture across the board". If we bomb civilians, then why are we squeamish about waterboarding?

His opinions are shaped by what seems to him the biggest threat to western civilisation today: radical Islam. The irony is that, in this struggle, he finds himself on the same side as the Christian right. "It's inconvenient, certainly," Harris says laconically. "When I talk to Christians about Islam, they're running the same software. They know how it feels to be sure that the Book is the word of the Creator."

Jonathan Derbyshire is culture editor of the New Statesman

179 comments

edwords's picture

I guess the atheist point-of-view can seem
simplistic, compared to theology's labyrinths.
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Theology - - - fantasy in search of a rationale.

Blaine McCartney's picture

@Keir: "Either you're too fucking pissed to know what you are talking about, or you're a vicious little slimeball."

The only person here resembling either of those things is you. You fly in the face of reasoned arguments with ad hominems at best, nonsense at worst, and to top it off you employ only the most droll humour that I wager only you are laughing at. Still, you're a fine example of that Christian "humility" many of we atheists have come to know and "love". Bigotry and intolerance, to spell it out for you among the many other things RFM has been trying to spell out for you, just in case, as has been the case through out this article comment section, you fail to understand.

billy's picture

Hamish

being an agnostic is completely independant of being an atheist or a theist. one can be an agnostic theist or an agnostic atheist.

look up the definition of agnostic, coz Im pretty sure you are using it wrong. Most atheists are agnostic atheists. they dont think there is any evidence for god and they dont believe there is one.

there is no such thing as fundamentalist atheists. being a fundamentalist means to strictly adhere to theological doctrines. atheists dont have any doctrines at all, its just a lack of belief in god, thats it. you could say Harris is a fundamentalist secularist, and fundamentalist humanist.

santa's picture

re: "the one thing that annoys me most about fundamental atheists is how they don't see any parallels between them and fundamental religious people (note, this doesn't apply to most atheists)"

Some of us recognize parallels. I would be considered by most to be a "New Atheist". I give no quarter and call fantasy fantasy other than energy and motion. Both religious fundamentalists and New Atheists are sure of themselves. The basis is dissimilar, but the result is both come across as being sure of themselves and sounding strident to many people. Believers and even some atheists find the self-assured often contemptuous language used by New Atheists to be offensive. Some of us get that. And that's fine. Everybody is an expert. Everyone has an opinion. At least the latter is true.
There are atheists who just don't think there is a god. That's fine. Some folks lack faith just because. Then there are atheists that have meaningful expertise in an area. Beyond the Four Horsemen there are many atheists who's background allows them to speak authoritatively, which is the hallmark of fundamentalist sounding talk. Religious fundamentalists get their conviction from a book they chose to believe above all else. New Atheists get their conviction from reality. Our understanding of the real world changes as our knowledge base changes, allowing and requiring New Atheists to change their beliefs to reflect our knowledge of reality. Not so for religious fundamentalists. The differences are myriad between the two groups and the similarities are superficial and only apparently related.
Water has no memory and there is no rational reason to believe in any supernatural being, god or ghost. To the degree you believe in spirits you retard the human race through that belief. That, ultimately, is the zero sum game. Reality is the basis for New Atheists stridency.

Mohinder Suresh's picture

@ RFM
"If the severity of judgment is an indication of which is worse, then in the eyes of the christian it is better to an atheist than gay."
Ah, but being gay is a choice while being an atheist is not. Or have I got that the wrong way around? Can never tell when you're dealing with ignorant, idiotic, immoral and, of course, conflicting religious doctrines.

PeteyMcPeterson's picture

This guy, as far as I'm concerned is almost ad bad as fundamentalist religous nutcases. I'm no fan of religous doctrine but this guy is clearly in an "us vs them" frame of mind and that's not the best place to be when trying to argue your point. For example "the biggest threat to western civilisation today: radical Islam". LOL Really? Worse than climate change? Or the depletion of our natural resources? Or AIDS?

"Never mind the western world's near epedemic levels of dependance on perscription medication! We've got to sort out this small group of narrow-minded, ineffectual, all-mouth-no-action religous types!"

Idiot.

RK's picture

Let me Guess. We are having this medieval discussion about religion vs science because leftists have been co-opted by Islamist. Is that not true?

Christanity and other religions stopped contesting with science and reason long back. (OK not very long back).

Shame on NSM that it will bring this debate as full issue topic. I have never seen DT or any mainstream right-wing media do it.

PS: To make a simple argument, to prove any religion wrong, it is sufficient to prove one of its tenets as wrong. Which offcourse is child's play. And there can be no reasonable debate with people who do not understand this rational

Ian4's picture

Just face it, theists, believing in a god that creates everything begs the question, "Who made God?" I guess that might be too hard a question for you to understand because all i see as explanations for that are spin spin spin and more spin. There is more spin in religion than in politics.

Barny's picture

"'what's worse: being gay or being an atheist?'

Jesus said that refusing to accept his witness would get much more punishment than homosexuality would.'"

Evidence?

anon's picture

The author of this article displays tendencies of sado masochism. This is probably the result of meme's transmitted from religious people who feel persecuted by the rationalist minority, taking root in a liberal siege mentality mind.
What I am interested in is the transcript for the discussion, not the adulterated version which the authors opinion is portrayed as superior.
If Liberal religious people actively sought to moderate the fundamentalist and moderate communities, then i don't think atheism would be as vociferous. Yet under the umbrella of non questioning, liberality turns into moderation turns into fundamentalism.

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