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25 November 2020

John Lanchester Q&A: “I’d like to be the kind of rich person who doesn’t do much“

The novelist discusses childhood memories of Labuan, life lessons from his father and the flaws of heroes.  

By New Statesman

John Lanchester was born in Hamburg in 1962. A journalist and novelist, he is the author of nine books, including “The Wall”, which was longlisted for the 2019 Booker.

What’s your earliest memory?

The house on stilts where we lived on Labuan, an island off Borneo. I turned three while we lived there. There was jungle, a landing craft left over from the Second World War, and a lizard which walked through the garden at teatime.

Who are your heroes?

There are many people I admire but I don’t think of them as heroes because then the admiration risks being wrecked by a single inconvenient truth: we’re all flawed; complete heroes exist only in books. Mind you, Marie Curie was pretty cool.

What book last changed your thinking?

How To Do Nothing by Jenny Odell. It made me realise that I hadn’t connected my understanding of the war on our attention with what I’m actually doing.

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Which political figure do you look up to?

The greats of non-violent change: Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. I admire their mixture of principle and tactical nous.

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What would be your Mastermind specialist subject?

I don’t have one – I like finding out about new things.

In which time and place, other than your own, would you like to live?

I’m of the school which would rather live in a modern liberal democracy than be a pharaoh. I’d miss dentistry, antibiotics, modern wine.

What TV show could you not live without?

Lockdown was a reminder that the thing I love most about TV is live sport.

[see also: Why sport’s new status as a purely digital product is not sustainable]

Who would paint your portrait?

Ideally, no one. I don’t like having my photograph taken and I assume being painted would be the same but worse because it would go on for longer. If I were better looking no doubt I’d feel differently.

What’s your theme tune?

I like the idea of walking onstage to the sound of “Renegade Master”, but I can’t help thinking that if it were going to happen it would have happened by now.

What’s the best piece of advice you’ve ever received?

My father told me to try doing the thing you most want to do when you’re young; if you have to do something boring to pay the bills you can always do that later, but the freedom of travelling light doesn’t come around again. He died suddenly when I was 21 and that reinforced the lesson.

What’s currently bugging you?

The state of the world, obviously. The supremacy of lies, the impunity of liars. Climate change. I find the basic incompetence of our governance deeply troubling; it compounds the other damage.

[see also: David Attenborough’s claim that humans have overrun the planet is his most popular comment]

What single thing would make your life better?

A side-effect-free pill that had the same effect as diet and exercise would be handy.

When were you happiest?

Right here, right now. WH Auden was right: happiness is a duty.

In another life, what job might you have chosen?

I’d quite like to be the kind of incredibly rich person who doesn’t do much.

Are we all doomed?

We’re all going to die – but that’s not the same thing. I don’t think humanity is doomed but some versions of the future are darker than others, and those versions seem more likely than they did before. 

“Reality, and Other Stories” by John Lanchester is published by Faber

This article appears in the 25 Nov 2020 issue of the New Statesman, The last days of Trump