Mumsnet vs the Society for the Protection of the Unborn Child on sex education
What is it about the SPUC that makes it more worthy of ministerial attention than the Mumsnetters?
By Sarah Ditum Published 20 July 2012 13:05
You can tell a lot about someone by the company they keep. So what does it mean when the minister of state for schools appears to be courting the pro-life idealogues of the Society for the Protection of the Unborn Child, while ignoring a hugely popular network like Mumsnet? Both SPUC and Mumsnet wrote letters to the Department of Education regarding sex education. Both letters were received. But only one got a reply. Nick Gibb MP took time to write back to SPUC; Mumsnet got nothing.
This is curious. Of course, a minister can’t respond personally to every query, but when it comes from a website that gets five million visits a month, you might imagine a politician could see the argument for answering: that’s a lot of potential voters you could reach for the price of some Basildon Bond and a stamp. SPUC claims 45,000 members in the UK. So what is it about those 45,000 that makes them more worthy of ministerial attention than the Mumsnetters?
The answer is that Gibb seems to be following the path of his anti-choice appeasing colleague, secretary of state for Health Andrew Lansley, and cosying up to the most reactionary elements he can find. And SPUC is pretty reactionary. The organisation is ostensibly a campaign against abortion. However, it has expanded its remit to oppose contraception, same-sex marriage – and now, sex education through the Safe at School campaign. The Safe at School campaign relies on one sinister question: “Do you know if your child is safe at school?” From that seed of uncertainty, it seeks to convince parents that schools are practising a sort of institutionalised child abuse by teaching children anything to do with reproduction. “Sex education in school […] is priming children from the age of five to become sexually active,” it says, marking the exact point where enforced ignorance and victim-blaming meet.
The SPUC attitude is inadvertently a paedophile’s dream. Not only does it falsely suggest that pre-pubescent children can be coaxed into sexual activity (Humberts rejoice! SPUC says your victims have been taught to want it), but it also seeks to deprive children of a vocabulary with which they can discuss, and so have control over, their own bodies. It’s this base level of knowledge – the simple naming of parts – that SPUC seeks to deprive children of.
In his letter to SPUC, Gibb writes: “I can confirm that neither the National Curriculum nor the new draft programme of study requires the naming of internal or external body parts with regard to reproduction.” For SPUC, this opens the way for them to resist schools providing any information to children about reproduction, and the organisation’s website is already celebrating the withdrawal of schools from sex ed under pressure from SPUC campaigners.
But SPUC does not represent the majority of parents. Mumsnet’s letter to the DoE – the one that Nick Gibb didn’t reply to – highlighted the results of a survey of its members’ attitude to sex and relationships education. These findings obviously can’t be extrapolated to the whole population, but they are strikingly positive: 92 per cent were happy for their children to attend SRE classes, and 69 per cent thought the subject should be compulsory at primary school.
“It seems odd for the government to ignore parents' views when it comes to sex education, and you have to wonder why," says Justine Roberts, Mumsnet co-founder and CEO. To a suspicious mindset, it might appear to be that ministers are on a mission of appeasement to the social conservative tendency, regardless of what parents really want or what is right for children.
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Mumsnet broadly reflects the views of feminist Labour-supporting public sector professionals, and SPUC reflects the views of parents in traditional communities with strong spirituality. No reason why the first is better than the second!
Allow me the right of reply as a SPUC member who has experience of Mumsnet on this specific issue.
I once tried to discuss sex education and similar issues on Mumsnet, my thread was extremely popular with 200+ posts- almost all against me, many sickeningly vitriolic and hateful- in 2 days before being deleted after complaints from the left-liberal professional super-mob who basically have control of the site led by Tethersend, Fairenuff and BeingFluffy (the ones who typically promote reporting people to Social Services a lot, gay marriage, children's information-sharing databases, sexual libertinism, progressive education, anti-censorship, abortion rights to "choose", and various other things seen as a risk to parents/family/unborn children.)
I started with: "Secondary schools should RESPECT parents' views on sex." and discussed several examples of this not being done including explicit leaflets being left in pastoral offices, condoms being handed out for free, teachers advising pupils on family planning clinics, and worst teachers who let pupils discuss sexual or relationship issues in extensive detail without disclosing any of the information to the parents (the "confidential pastoral care" fundamentalists.)
I wrote about my own experience: I had issues with sexual development and fantasies aged 11-14 and all this time confided in the "child protection coordinator" who told me that "I won't be shocked by anything you say" and "you can be explicit", whilst this senior teacher NEVER informed my mum or dad; she referred me to a specialist in sexual health and no information was passed to my parents about this either.
I was told to "stop complaining about the excellent pastoral care I'd received and trying to deny this HUMAN RIGHT to other children", called "anti-choice", "not worth respecting", "loon", "right wing nutter" and various other ridiculous names and even asked "Do you understand Safeguarding or CP- at all?"... and a dozen or so serving secondary teachers approved of the whole package of explicit sex ed, condoms, referrals for abortion and secret advice without any parental opt-outs at all.
This demonstrates why Mumsnet is not suitable for setting policy on the matter of young people's formation.
Mumsnet broadly reflects the views of feminist Labour-supporting public sector professionals, and SPUC reflects the views of parents in traditional communities with strong spirituality. No reason why the first is better than the second!
Allow me the right of reply as a SPUC member who has experience of Mumsnet on this specific issue.
I once tried to discuss sex education and similar issues on Mumsnet, my thread was extremely popular with 200+ posts- almost all against me, many sickeningly vitriolic and hateful- in 2 days before being deleted after complaints from the left-liberal professional super-mob who basically have control of the site led by Tethersend, Fairenuff and BeingFluffy (the ones who typically promote reporting people to Social Services a lot, gay marriage, children's information-sharing databases, sexual libertinism, progressive education, anti-censorship, abortion rights to "choose", and various other things seen as a risk to parents/family/unborn children.)
I started with: "Secondary schools should RESPECT parents' views on sex." and discussed several examples of this not being done including explicit leaflets being left in pastoral offices, condoms being handed out for free, teachers advising pupils on family planning clinics, and worst teachers who let pupils discuss sexual or relationship issues in extensive detail without disclosing any of the information to the parents (the "confidential pastoral care" fundamentalists.)
I wrote about my own experience: I had issues with sexual development and fantasies aged 11-14 and all this time confided in the "child protection coordinator" who told me that "I won't be shocked by anything you say" and "you can be explicit", whilst this senior teacher NEVER informed my mum or dad; she referred me to a specialist in sexual health and no information was passed to my parents about this either.
I was told to "stop complaining about the excellent pastoral care I'd received and trying to deny this HUMAN RIGHT to other children", called "anti-choice", "not worth respecting", "loon", "right wing nutter" and various other ridiculous names and even asked "Do you understand Safeguarding or CP- at all?"... and a dozen or so serving secondary teachers approved of the whole package of explicit sex ed, condoms, referrals for abortion and secret advice without any parental opt-outs at all.
This demonstrates why Mumsnet is not suitable for setting policy on the matter of young people's formation.
What is Mumsnet's membership in the UK? Any idea?
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"Do you know if your child is safe at school?" is, as you say, a remarkably powerful question. I would like my child to learn about sex and relationships openly and honestly, and I resent the idiotic statements made by SPUC - yet that question still gets to me, drawing on all sorts of mindless fears about teachers with hidden agendas! (Thankfully, any fears it could have stoked are soon banished by the sheer ridiculousness of everything else SPUC proposes).
I suppose if you are a parent who believes in educating your child about this, it is hard to feel as passionate as someone who's against it. After all, I can think "well, I'll tell my child at home" - and is it my business to feel angry on behalf of other people's children, if that's their parents' choice? (I think it is - yet it also feels illiberal of me - perhaps the Conservatives count on liberals to tie themselves in knots over this while they court the votes of the likes of SPUC!).
I contributed to the Mumsnet survey. My children have learned nothing about sex education at school- because they already knew it when the classes came along, in years 5 and 6 for anything vaguely sexual. Their attitudes to same sex relationships have not been formed by those of reactionaries not teachers in their Church school- but by being part of family friendship circles that contain same sex couples.
And this was the childhood I had to; far from being sexually rampant at a young age I was one of the last in my class to lose my virginity, a week before my 18th birthday. I am not gay, but having been raised around some lovely gay people (friends and relations) I have many I count as friends; I am blessed by this.