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"Jankaas, you are Gert Wilders and I claim my £5."

his 1st name is Geert, and i think he is an opportunistic piece of shit. so now you can give £5 to the charity of your choice.

btw you haven't answered my direct question regarding the value of pages from books of which there are literally billions of copies. why is that? is it all a bit too much for a person like yourself?

"And it didn't escape my attention that on the other thread you still abused my name even though I had stoppd by then."

and you miss the point here also, every time i insult you via your username it's always because you started abusing my name 1st. fact. go check for yourself. if you really think i am wrong and you are right. then come back and tell me what you found.

@ Sir Michael @ Jankass the jerk arse -the jihadist twin. Jihadist "one who argues for peace'
Waiter, Could I have one??

Islam is a fraud and a jihadist is a killer by any definition.

The only time Islam talks about saving mankind is when Mohammad plagiarised a apocryphal Jewish literature; this time in the Jewish Mishnah Sanhedrin.

The Qur'an reads: Qur'an 5:32 "On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone slew a person - unless it be in retaliation for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew all mankind: and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all humanity."

The Mishnah Sanhedrin 4:5 says: "We find it said in the case of Cain who murdered his brother, the voice of thy brother's blood cries out [this is a quote from Genesis 4:10, but not the rest...], and he says, it does not say he has blood in the singular, but bloods in the plural. It was singular in order to show that to him who kills a single individual, it should be reckoned that he has slain all humanity. But to him who has preserved the life of a single individual, it is counted that he has preserved all mankind."

"Islam is a fraud and a jihadist is a killer by any definition."

Yes...

So if we are arguing for peace (peace being a state where people are not killed or hurt) we can't be Jihadists by that definition can we?

Hello? Am I typing slow enough?

@Arminius - Not all Zionists are Jewish just as not all Jews are Zionists

I think you're being a wee bit disingenuous here. I think the vast majority of people who use the word zionist when speaking against Israel tend to mean Jewish Israeli or Jewish supporters of Israel.

And for what it's worth (I posted this on another thread) I am opposed to war with Iran or any other country and I hope this present stand-off can be resolved through means other than violence.

Read
your
terrorist
manual
the Quran

Islam, a religion of peace?
Qur'an:9:88 "The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause."

Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."
Qur'an:9:29 "Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."

Ishaq:325 "Muslims, fight in Allah's Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious."
Qur'an:8:39 "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."

Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."

Ishaq:324 "He said, 'Fight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only. Allah must have no rivals.'"

Qur'an:9:14 "Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them."

@sir Michael
I've just read the links you posted above. Very interesting indeed. thank you.

@bro

kiss
my
hairy
Dutch
secular
arse

Arminius/Sir Michael you are a pair of Islamist bigots. Go stone some of vile women to death.

Tussant - Its nice that your carers allow a fruitloop such as yourself use of a computer but you should not abuse the privilege.

@JJ

"So while you you bring us YouTube videos I'm happy in the meantime to educate you, Sir Mo."

you didn't watch that clip of Bolton did you? the clip where he literally says that he lies whenever he decides it is ok to lie. no mincing of words, Bolton freely admits that he personally has no problem telling lies for his country.

be honest now JJ. you didn't watch it coz if you did then you'd look insane by posting as you did the following statement; "John Bolton is outspoken. And unlike run-of-the-mill diplomats doesn't lie for his country"

so what happened JJ?

@Sir Michael @Jankass @Arminius et al - I am sure you know why Muslims like you are all so stupid - your Allah & your terrorist prophet said that Muslims are made of slimy smelly clay unlike us infidels. Just read your Quran LOL!!

Tabari I:258 &
Qur'an 15:26 "Allah created Adam from sticky clay, meaning viscous and sweet smelling slime, being stinking. It became stinking slime after having been compact soil."

Tabari I:258 "Allah sent Gabriel to the earth to bring Him some clay. The earth said, 'I take refuge in Allah against you mutilating me. Then He sent the angel of death. He took some soil from the earth and made a mixture. He did not take it from a single place but took red, white, and black soil. Therefore, the children of Adam came out different."

So @ Sir Michael @ Jankass @Arminius - which smelly clay is yours??

Tussant: "Arminius/Sir Michael you are a pair of Islamist bigots. Go stone some of vile women to death."

Educate yourself...

http://www.cracked.com/article_18911_5-ridiculous-things-you-probably-be...

In some places Islamic women are more liberated than western women.

@Julia

different day, different thread, same old shit though...

"U.S. District Court Rules Iran Behind 9/11 Attacks"

you posted this previously, and the following fact was ignored by you; the official US 9/11 Commission did not find that Iran was directly responsible for the Twin Towers attack.

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Exec.htm

if you search for the word "Iran" in that summary and then "Saudi" you'll find the former occurs once and the latter 10 times.

people should read the source material rather than cite what they sort of remember from news articles, and the opinions of those poor bereaved persons. i do feel we let the bereaved down by allowing bullshit conclusions to take precedence over informed evidence based conclusions.

@Parkour

"Actually, it's great for a lot of self-professed left-wing people or anyone, come to that, who's a racist but hasn't got the courage to admit it"

so your theory is that anyone who uses the term Zionist is a racist? wow, perhaps you should inform the following organisations;

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Zionism/wzo.html

http://www.greenzionism.org/

there are plenty more like that, run by Jewish people who according to you are racists. or is that not what you meant..?

@jankaas - "there are plenty more like that, run by Jewish people who according to you are racists. or is that not what you meant..?"

No it's very much not what I meant. I meant it's a term used by certain haters of Israel to avoid using words Jew or Jewish - camouflage if you like. See some recent postings by Maximefm on one of the other threads for example.

Sir M

"But a few seconds later"

yep, i know what you mean. good call btw.
i am astonished how much vitriol the more reasoned and evidence based posters attract.

guess it just goes like that sometimes. not sure who's on your list of 'waste of pixels' but mine is growing like a rash, JJ just having made it on there. all he'll get from me is the odd poke with a sharp stick. so it goes.

Does no one else just get tired of how childish Mehdi writes in all of his articles...? *Sigh*

A lot of it was very good, but I just had to take issue with the whole Saddam Hussein's 'secular Iraq'. You're a smart guy, who was it that decided to put that line from the Qur'an on the Iraqi flag, just out of interest?

Ha ha! what a depraved crew the islamists have put up here: Jankaas with his constant harping on about his arse, either asking people to kiss it and how he would wipe his arse with the bible and Koran.

Sir Mohammed with his wisecracks insults and deflections. He's soooo weary of having to debate people he disagrees with, yet he lurks around here with nothing better to do.

Maxine with her Holocaust Denial and wishing for a new Holocaust which twisted logic is par for the course for the Islamists.

Priceless!

BTW, Sir Michael, John Bolton is one of the greatest political thinkers of our time.

Of course, Jankaas professes to be 'secular' just as the haters of 'Zionists' profess to be 'half Jewish'. It's the get out of jail card for them. But they are easily found out.

Meanwhile, STILL no condemnation of the butcher Assad from Tony Benn, Booth, Ridley and the rest of the loopyfruit Left.

@Parkour

agreed, there's no room for prejudice, which i think is an enormous obstacle. the biggest problem of course being the reluctance of those with prejudice to listen to facts, and work with those.

reminds me of the quote (as i remember it); "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."

so if we track back to the facts, as they relate to this specific thread, we should acknowledge that Al-Qaeda as an international organisation, was wished into existence by Western politicians and media. at the time of 9/11 it just didn't exist in that way. now Al-Qaeda is becoming what we were told it already was 10 years ago...

this man knows his onions, don;t be put off by the low view rate, he is an academic expert on this subject and contributes to the White House under Republican as well as Democratic administrations. skip to 2 mins 30;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJA_f1VyWlg&feature=related

Since the Cold War the mass media have increasingly become an indispensable political tool, though the Nazi and Communist propaganda machines had set the first major records in the 20th century.
If the West claims to be a ‘PARTICIPATORY’ DEMOCRACY, based on active role of the citizens in the formation of their societies and freedom of speech, and responsible mass media, rather than being led by a certain group IN THE NAME OF THE MAJORITY, then considering the shocking information provided by these authors, that reveal the skilful CONTROL OF PUBLIC OPINION by certain groups, the EFFICIENCY of the WESTERN DEMOCRACY, its MEDIA and the accuracy of the western public opinion are questionable, especially when issues such as war are imminent.
I am not sure of the accuracy of the information provided by these sites; some of them may have a bad reputation as fanatics, but here my concern is mainly with the PARTICULAR ‘INFORMATION’ made public by them. I hope the ZIONIST CONTRIBUTORS to this blog would feel responsible to ENLIGHTEN THE READERS by ‘OBJECTIVELY’ DEMONSTRATING the inaccuracy of the information provided by these site and books:
1- John J. MEARSHEIMER & STEPHEN M. WALT: THE ISRAEL LOBBY AND US FOREIGN POLICY (2007)
The authors’ extensive research demonstrates the power of the Zionist lobbyists in America and how Israel for years has strived to prevent any close relation between Iran and America to become reality.
2- ILAN PAPPE: THE ETHNIC CLEANSING OF PALESTINE (2006)
Pappe’s research takes us to the heart of Israel’s ethnic cleansing policies from its very inception.

3-- Jewish Dominance of America - Facts Are Facts
http://www.rense.com/general59/sdom.htm

4-The Jewish Propaganda in British Media (1997)
http://theunjustmedia.com/media/the%20jewish%20propaganda%20in%20british...

5- The Jewish media-power in Britain (2002)
http://radioislam.org/islam/english/jewishp/gbmedia/gbmedia.htm

6- Jewish Power in the American Medias
http://radioislam.org/islam/english/toread/whorules.htm

7- JEWISH "MEDIAS"= Jewish Propaganda
http://radioislam.org/medias/index.htm

Someone tweed this article to Mehdi...not sure if they thought it might help...but the opposite is the case...

Virtually unnoticed, since late 2001, Iran has held some of al Qaeda's most senior leaders. Several of these operatives, such as Yasin al-Suri, an al Qaeda facilitator, have moved recruits and money from the Middle East to central al Qaeda in Pakistan. Others, such as Saif al-Adel, an Egyptian that served as head of al Qaeda's security committee, and Abu Muhammad al-Masri, one of the masterminds of the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in East Africa, have provided strategic and operational assistance to central al Qaeda. The Iranian government has held most of them under house arrest, limited their freedom of movement, and closely monitored their activities. Yet the organization's presence in Iran means that, contrary to optimistic assessments that have become the norm in Washington, al Qaeda's demise is not imminent.

Perhaps more disturbing, Iran appears willing to expand its limited relationship with al Qaeda. Just as with its other surrogate, Hezbollah, the country could turn to al Qaeda to mount a retaliation to any U.S. or Israeli attack. To be sure, the organization is no Iranian puppet. And the two have sometimes been antagonistic, as illustrated by al Qaeda in Iraq's recent attacks against Shias. But both share a hatred of the United States. U.S. policymakers should think twice about provoking a closer relationship between them and should draw greater public attention to Iran's limited, but still unacceptable, cooperation with al Qaeda.

Evidence of the Iranian-al Qaeda partnership abounds -- and much of it is public. This past year, I culled through hundreds of documents from the Harmony database at West Point; perused hundreds more open-source and declassified documents, such as the U.S. Department of Treasury's sanctions against al Qaeda leaders in Iran; and interviewed government officials from the United States, Europe, the Middle East, and South Asia.

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/137061/seth-g-jones/al-qaeda-in-i...

Keep up the good work Julia. You're fantastic.

Oh god, Julia, Julia! - are we locked in some kind of star-crossed haters embrace? How are thou so wrong - let me count the ways.

Iran has no nukes and does not terrorise the region - thats America's job. Oh, and pointing out that Iran's military spend is 1% of America's does not mean that I want them to have a bigger budget. How on earth did you get that out of what I wrote?

As for annoyance, well, if you were writing from a stance that possessed so much as a scintilla of rationality I think the annoyance factor would be greater since there would be some perceptible proximity to sanity and compassion. But your outpouring display no such qualities - muslims and anyone who opposes or criticises any action or policy of Israel and the US is in your eyes a diabolical creature fit only for your particular brand of corrosive despite. Which is I find you funny. I guffaw in your general direction, ma'am.