If the death of Santorums baby has been public knowledge for a decade and his wife wrote a book about it, how come it appears in an article titled '10 Things you DIDN'T know about Rick Santorum'?

The worst thing is though, I get the feeling that even if this had not previously been public knowledge, you would still have included it in your article as a bit of a 'point and laugh at the weirdo' attempt to ridicule him.

@ Steff, FYI, I have no interest in spreading any misinformation and yes they are shocking stats that the left wing media, Islamist’s like Mehdi and the PC brigade don’t want you to hear about.

No doubt too many here I am a/the racist Islamaphobic bigot. The people committing criminal acts and in many cases the Muslims who are killing Muslims have got nothing to answer for? Are they not the true Islamaphobes as it is they who are killing Muslims??

I am the problem of course... if I go away the killings and repression will stop?? No, it won’t, you just won’t hear about it... Then the likes of Mehdi Hassan and his pro Sharia and Pro Islamic view of the world would be allowed to percolate without question.
The left wing media in the UK, the NS, the BBC which often takes it cues from the Guardian are wicked self hating and anti-Semitic institutions.

They are culpable of glossing over the real facts, sugar coating Islam with a view of cultural and religious relativity – and ultimately fail to bring the whole picture to the UK public for fear of being labelled by there colleagues – bigots or Islamaphobes if anyone should dare try to speak the truth.
Truth is the new hate speech...

@ Jackass, as I have said, you’re not worth bothering with but I will indulge you this once. However anyone who reads your posts will see what a real Idiot and Fool you are.

If people are too stupid to see the wood from the tree’s so beit, all I can do is make the best case I can and let the free thinkers indulge and the fools like Jackass spout there psycho babble conspiracy theories, nothing is as it seems, it’s all our fault, it’s all because of Iraq clap trap

Thanks Jackass for your astute and brilliant insights into the candidates for the Republican party leadership. As a Dutchman that resides in the UK your grasp and expertise on their abilities is breath taking.

BTW. most of them are self made Millionaires with one Billionaire. I doubt they made it in the cake and pastry business, but who knows? There could be an incognito World Famous Rock Star among them.

Sir Michael, I don’t have a problem with people that disagree with my views, where did I say that? It was you who made a highly insulting post to me and I retorted calmly with my tongue firmly in my cheek. Its clear to see you are an Idiot.

@ Buckskins
Why would the hones teacher kick a Donkey? Doesn't he/she like animals as well as Humans. Maybe we could dress them in green? Your Julia(n) appears to like green.

@andyg

"Truth Jankaas is always the first casualty with the racist "

which is why they are so readily exposed. it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

"Julia is really Julian"

omg. if that is so then Buckskins is trying to hit on a bloke!

This is terrifically childish, isn't it? Also boring.

"@ns_mehdihasan @holysmoke If you've got a couple of pins handy stick them in your eyes. More enjoyable and productive"

This is the comment editor for the Telegraph, the political editor of the New Statesman and a published historian.

What was the word count for this blog post? 1500?

"You're weird and sinister!"

"No, *you're* weird and sinister!"

Powerful minds looked in combat. Exhilarating stuff.

One other thing Medhi. You know very little on international relations theory and the global political economy.

Amateur

@Des

"It is not my argument."

i accept this is true, but you do give it some credence rather than call it for what it is; shameless hate mongering.

"Just pointing out that sometimes common sense is required rather than courting controversy."

and i must say that my common sense dictates that i can't allow minorities to be silenced if i place any personal value on the principles of free speech and freedom of expression. controversy be damned, this is about Democratic principles. i think if you made the subject of your advice the Gay Community, you would not find yourself even trying to hand out such instructions? or would you?

Your an Uber left Islamist columnist and your writing a 10 point article about a right wing US politician it stands to reason that people will associate your highlighting of this fact with a derogatory view of him / his family as this is how people associate you and your view of people on the political right.
I don’t understand why you would mention the death of their baby even it was documented it shows a lack of judgement on your part – there was no need to.

"To you Jackass."

i would hazard a guess Sweet SucksDicks, that all those who read your infantile misogynist post would come to the exact same conclusion; that 'comeback' was an embarrassment.

maybe you can ask Sweet Julia if she thought it was a good one?

I think I am outraged about the outrage here about other folks outrage.

Which is surely enough for an inquiry to be held and Newsnight to do a special.

Isn't it?

Two extremes from the MSM infirmament find a way to drive the ratings that sustain them and... bingo!

Makes one feel all warm and fuzzy.

Next... Laurie Penny disses Neo-Guido. Or is it his turn?

So much to flounce around, so little time. Or is that sh*t being given outside a very small, nasty bubble?

@Politico

"Amateur"

for all his faults in this specific article, and his defense of it, isn't Mehdi the one who earns a living from this stuff? and you..?

@ Jackass, ROFL, you are such a Muppet.
One line taken out of paragraph (from somewhere and out of context) that bundles together the main places of worship in some kind of general statement doesn’t mean shit. It doesn’t disprove anything I have said; it doesn’t make your case that the statistical data I/they presented is contradictory and worthless.

So what if this organisation should collect statistical information regarding Muslims and it turns out to be negative - it’s not the bloody fault of the people collecting the data that Muslims carry these points of view, is it... understand?

Subsequently, if this paragraph didn’t include mosque in that paragraph you’d say something like...”see, they hate Muslims, they haven’t included Mosque in with Churches and Synagogues and then try to disprove it that way.
As I said, you cant win with an idiot like you, how try’s to be oh so clever, but really doesn’t come up with anything, can you see how stupid your being?

It does show you are clutching at straws, trying to make a case out of some spurious line about support and education. You would be laughed out of a court room for presenting such a weak and feeble case, is that all you’ve got??? Really??

You have also proved my earlier point about religious relativity in that Islam gets lumped in with Christianity and Judaism, when it should be treated differently and has a far more sinister side

"Julia, brilliant posts as usual."

now there's an endorsement worth its weight. on the same wavelength as Buckskins lol.

"How anyone could follow the teachings of a pedophile and rapist is beyond me, but they manage."

as do you since you are a Christian you dim-bulb. Mary was about 13 when she was impregnated by God (statutory rape anyone?)

"Isn't that right Al Jackass."

yes, it's always a pleasure to rub your nose in your dirty muck SucksDicks...

Myself, as an unapologetic leftie, and someone who thinks that Rick Santorum is a fruitloop who should never be in any position of power, let me use this opportunity to tell you that you pulled an absolute dick move with that post Hasan.

Really.

The guy has a personal tragedy. He and his family dealt with it

The sort of demonization and false equivalence the likes of Fox news and the Daily Mail make against the left was done by you Hasan. Your punditry decended into bigotry and intolerance with that blog post. And this is Rick Santorum we are talking about, it's not as if you couldn't find actual politics from him which you could have used as a number 8 is it?

3 things everyone now knows about Mehdi Hasan;

1) He reserves his right to pass judgement on others for their own beliefs and personal lives, yet complains when he is himself judged...

http://www.newstatesman.com/religion/2011/12/violence-faith-violent-arab

2) He is happy to make a ten point blog post "just pointing things out" and not passing judgement, but will react very childishly when someone else "just points out" that the entire thing wasn't journalism but a high-handed hack job which would give the Daily Express a run for their money, albeit on the opposite side of the coin.

3) Rather than simply apologising for an error of judgement concerning his reporting the death of a child, he will then go on to make a further blog post going into even more intimate details concerning this death in a bizarre effort to convince people of his journalistic integrity.

By the way Hasan, don't you dare complain about this post. I am just "pointing things out".

@Jankaas

Fine words Jankaas which one can only agree with. At the same time however, we live in the real world. The world in which Mehdi Hasan is (in my view) rightly berated for his hugely misjudged and insensitive attack on the way someone grieves for their child. It's his right to say it. That is free speech yes? Is it common sense. No.

This could have been an interesting thread. This could have been about press ethics, a journalists responsibility to both present news and keep a moral balance (wherever that balance is) Instead we get the usual Muslim or Antiu-muslim propoganda spwewing out, which personally I find rather depressing. i know you and the likes of Julia Harris, and the rest of the alter egos Buckskins etc like to bang on about this at length, but I find it tiresome and that is my right to free speech!

@Fraziel1.

All you do is run your mouth and say nothing of substance. If childish personal attacks is all you are capable of I sincerely hope it purges some of the bile from your system.

Who knows perhaps one day you also can vote for your country's leader, and have a Parliament that is not in place in part as a result of appointments and right of birth. If we Americans elect a President that irks the hell out of your ilk, then we know we did something right.

@Des

"Fine words Jankaas which one can only agree with."

great, i thought as much.

" That is free speech yes? Is it common sense. No."

indeed. and i said so right at the start of this thread. pls scroll to the top, mine was the 5th comment.

you then lob me in the same boat as certain vile reactionaries. i protest. i don't defend or attack Islam for my personal agenda, beyond the desire to deal in facts. others dish out hysterical rhetoric, and propaganda, i most certainly don't. i thought my post 12 January 2012 at 15:20 laid out my position quite clearly?

the fact that i use some foul language when dealing with Julia and Buckskins is merely because they solicit this from me. i think they crave and demand it. but as you may have noticed, my interactions with reasonable persons don't include any bad language at all.

ttfn

Jackass, Julia needs no defending from me or anyone else. The fact that she persistently kicks your ass all over the place, to the delight of some of us, is no reason to attack her in your laughable macho manner.

You see Julia like many women is very smart. When you duel with her you're bringing a knife to a gun fight. Did you figure you could stone her into submission with your fantasy world intellectual cleverness. She makes you look even more stupid than you are. Quite an accomplishment.

"as you may have noticed by now, Julia hasn't bothered to defend herself. this is also part and parcel of her 'debating' style; get out the moment your bluff is called- like most bigots, she too is a coward."

Jackass, your cutting remarks are too much for me, your new band of merry men, Andy G, Sir Michael are a really scary prospect, your wit is really something to behold...

Fact is, I have a life (unlike you?) and have had an enjoyable weekend with friends and family and don’t feel any urgency to justify myself, especially to an Idiot like you.

“just say that Islam is not bad by default, and that you definitely do not mean to imply that Muslim = bad.”

Look Jackass,I know you have a simple mind and like things simple, but its not for me to say whether Islam is good or bad by default. All I know is what I see, read and hear about the deeds and actions of Muslims who adhere to Islam and Sharia - its definitely not all good and its alot of very bad too.

I have no doubt not all Muslims are bad people and I would surmise that its the ones who are lapsed and more secular that have a better chance of being model citizens.

I would also say that Muslims who adhere to and are pro Sharia are not the sort of people I would want to live with.

Lets not sugar coat things here for the sake of keeping the PC brigade happy, Islam is not a religion of peace, it’s a totalitarian ideology that lacks human rights, proper justice and causes many Muslims to be hateful and prejudicial towards non-Muslims, homosexuals and women.

It also causes them to persecute others inline with Islamically inspired killing, acts of terror and violence – all on a daily basis.

If that’s the default position or not shouldn't make any difference, it won’t change my feelings and/or shouldnt anyone else's. It should just let people think, these are terrible things happening in the name of Islam, lets try to work together to save the innocent people downgraded by this nightmarish religion, so that they might be free and live a happy life, free of fear and intimidation.

I know....tho Jackass, Sir Michael and AndyG that you still won’t concede to my view, but instead decide to hate me for bringing the truth to you. You will never concede; "I can see what you mean, as a Muslim I am embarrassed, ashamed and disgusted by my religion Islam. I want it reformed and modernised without reservation.

I am able to say that as a Muslim who can see good from bad, right from wrong. I am able to say this as a Muslim who has tasted the fruits of freedom in the West - whereby I can be truthful and critical of Islam, unlike Muslims in Islamic states whereby it is feared and revered without question, totalitarianism.

Mehdi your making thing's worse my friend. You did it, you wrote it now live with it and move on. The worse thing you can do is try to explain why, just move on!

"Jackass"

yes ScrewYoulia..?

"ROFL"
how embarrassing for you.

"(from somewhere and out of context)"

nope. i provided the name of their study, and the context i explained also.

"it doesn’t make your case that the statistical data I/they presented is contradictory and worthless. "

no you dimwit, that's exactly what i did not do. i did however illustrate that the data does not allow you to imagine it supports your notion that Muslims=bad.

that you can't even see this simple truism is indicative of just how dense you are. that Buckskins is impressed by your arguments should set alarm bells ringing at max volume.

"Jackass"

yes ButtFucks..?

"I will not dignify your post with a rebuttal."

you couldn't in other words. coward.