Hilarious. The BNP discriminates against white people
Political correctness gone mad!
By Mehdi Hasan Published 29 April 2010 17:32Sunder Katwala, over at Next Left, makes perhaps the best argument against the BNP's "repatriation policy" that I've ever come across:
If they thought about for ten minutes, which I recognise might be asking a little too much, I fear the BNP's repatriation policy could create an enormous sense of grievance among their target electorate of white voters who feel that far too much is done for minorities.
There is a lot of mythology in that claim.
Yet, now, to add insult to injury, here is perhaps the largest ever special treatment programme being offered to minority Brits -- and by the BNP itself.
Why on earth should the British government spend up to £9bn offering grants of up to £50,000 to people to leave the country -- yet only on an affirmative action basis, so that the offer is made exclusively for those (like me) whose parents are from abroad?
This excludes indigenous Brits who might fancy a new life in Australia, Canada or Spain. Where on earth is the fairness in that? Couldn't white Brits sue the government under equality legislation, were such a law introduced?
Perhaps Trevor Phillips could investigate. For Nick Griffin may here have finally succumbed to political correctness gone mad.
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The title of the article is misleading. There is such thing as white foreigners, (polish, american etc)
I also think you need to add on that for £50k or so to leave the country you can never return. Not just 50k to get out the country for a while, come back, decide to leave again and get another 50k... you can never return.
John, read the article in today's Guardian on what it's like to struggle on the meagre amount paid to those unfortunate enough not to be able to find a job. They're hardly "fraudulent thieving scum", as you so charmingly put it.
@Enraged Brit
Ah I see...so you would support the idea of the millions of "non-indigenous peoples" of America being deported back to their "homelands" then?
So we replace 6 million "non-indigenous" people here in the UK with the 49 million "English-Americans", 5.8m Scottish-Americans, 1.9m Welsh-Americans and lets not forget the 3.5m Scots-Irish and the 36.3 million Irish-Americans.
So basically we swap 6m "non-indigenous" peole for 96.5m "indigenous" British/Irish living in the US?
And we haven't even included Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, and all those ex-pats living in Spain and France.
Unfortunately, "bigotry" is found in the most surprising places.
The following is an account of the bigotry against the Indian constitution and the idea of rule of law as I have experienced it over the past two decades.
It appears to be gaining some powerful adherents in the UK too.
As somebody who has conscientiously refused to do business the way it "normally" is in so called democratic societies - "Go along to get along" - I will not pay bribes - and who has been almost destroyed for my pains, I would like to believe that plain speaking and straight dealing are a simple and universal human pleasure, that are being relentlessly and rather madly being subdued by the powers that be.
A documented account of my lived experience that follows, and certain obvious conclusions that follow, have been savagely suppressed by Guardian UK .
After months of moderating and publishing my comments, Guardian UK has suddenly and without any notice withdrawn my posting privileges and scrubbed all my earlier ones.
Like some apparatchik of a military junta, Guardian UK has in effect, "disappeared" me.
The Economist wobbles - sometimes scrapping my comments and at other times leaving them on.
bbc.co.uk has published my comment in one blog but would not publish them in the Indian blog.In a form letter they have conveyed their fear that they may be sued for "defamation" !!!!!
Have these eminences of the media seriously scrutinised my claims and found them inadequate ? Absolutely not.
But they do crumble with one phone call from the Prime Minister's Office or someone else.
The Indian media's poppadum panjandrums have said what I have said from the safety of their armchairs.
I am recounting my lived experience, with documentation and am demanding accountability.
Have I acted responsibly and in keeping with the greater good ?
You be the judge.
Have they ?
I have complained to Press Complaints Commission about Guardian UK's "baiting" behaviour.
But the PCC appears to be living in a Pre Magna Carta timewarp.
Despite the clear appearance of bad intent, requiring investigation, it appears to be believe in unfettered monarchial privileges and will not intervene.
The following is the account that appears to have staggered some of the stalwarts of the “free world”:
Twenty years ago – I had the privilege of having conceived, researched, scripted, edited, presented and produced a 37 minute Doordarshan commissioned documentary in Urdu,”Hyderabad. August 1948?, on the circumstances in which the 28 year old editor Shoebullah Khan of an Urdu newspaper, Imroose, was slaughtered, because of his open defiance of the erstwhile Nizam of Hyderabad.
The documentary was acclaimed nationally.
Historians of the calibre of Dr Bipan Chandra commended the meticulous research.
Freedom fighters expressed their gratitude that light had been shone on a chapter of history, which they believed had been obscured.
Among the most epiphanic reviews was the one by Dr Manmohan Singh’s former media adviser, currently editor of Business Standard and fellow Hyderabadi Dr Sanjaya Baru.
Under the informal chairmanship of Dr Abid Hussain, India’s former ambassador to the USA, I was able to organise a petition to the former Prime Minister Dr P V Narasimha Rao.
This resulted in a freedom fighter’s status and pension for the martyr’s wiidow, more than four decades after his supreme sacrifice.
However since the past two decades I have been hounded by the bureaucracy, with the Indian editorial class (with an occasional honourable exception)doing its bit to trivialise, denigrate and gag me.
My crime?
I have been outspoken – wrote an article in the editorial page of The Hindustan Times and The Pioneer- about corruption in Doordarshan – the Government’s so-called public service broadcaster.
Since the past two decades, the Government of India, the Government of my own state, Andhra Pradesh, the Andhra Pradesh High Court , the Chief Information Commissioner and State Information Commissioner have combined to impress on me that what works in India is what I have called the “patronage paradigm” – the paradigm of shoddiness, irresponsibility, cronyism and corruption” – and that ideas of the rule of law and democratic processes are merely spectacles to lull the gullible.
I have been denied the recognition that were commended to me by one former Chief Minister of my state, one former minister of home affairs, one speaker of the Lok Sabha, several prominent ministers of the central cabinet, eminent intellectuals and freedom fighters.
I have been unable to earn a decent living.
The office of the Governor of Andhra Pradesh incited my neighbors to cut off my water supply.
Wajahat Habibullah and C D Arha have conducted themselves as though the RTI Act 2005 does not exist.
The information commissions in the state and at the centre denied me my right to information on spurious, brazenly illegal grounds and punished me for daring to object.
The AP high court sought independent legal opinion on my plaint, which was completely and unequivocally in my favour, and a judge issued a notice, yet the AP High Court high court denied me my right to competent counsel – a right given to the 26/11 gunman – and punished me for complaining.
The Prime Minister’s Office appears to have jumped through hoops to heap honour on a businessman alleged to be a serial swindler.
In the same vein, it has and continues to illegally and fraudulently deny me the information I have sought and protect the miscreants who have stonewalled my pursuit of justice.
Rashtrapathi Bhavan, after repeated urgings from me, had issued notices to the Ministry of Law and the Chief Secretary of Andhra Pradesh almost a year ago, presumably it has taken a prima facie view, but since then has been content to let matters fester.
In other words, even as we speak, Dr Manmohan Singh”s office, “Daredevil” Pratibha Patil’s Rashtrapati Bhavan, Chief Information Commissioner Wajahat Habibullah, State Information Commissioner CD Arha are all locked in a most perverse and ignominious conspiracy of silence to deny me justice.
India's editorial class always narcissistic has decayed and is useless.
Like the police in Hindi films, it arrives after all the action is over and then mouths "dialogue'.
Variations of this comment have appeared in almost every major Indian online publication plus in many abroad.
However, not a single editor or reporter has had the professionalism to pick it up and make it "impact".
My credentials are strong and I have taken much trouble to meet many editors personally, usually on impeccable referrals.
Our "know-it-all-in -chiefs" have had nothing but smirks to offer.
When I sought the solidarity of the press, Shekhar Gupta (editor in chief of The Indian Express) advised me, "You cannot go around taking pangas (quarrels) with people, yaar."
Even my comments are mutilated.
Vinod Mehta's "Outlook" has banned my comments on risible grounds.
The Hindu crawled.
It published "spin" by corrupt officials and got hissy with me for pointing out, with evidence, its craven, yellow soul.
The Indian Press (with a solitary exception) blacked out the fervent open letter written by Padma Vibhushan Kaloji Narayana Rao.
That dear man , clear as a bell in his nineties, had laid his head on my shoulder, hugged me and wept.
What about "civil society" in India ?
Since close to a year now, I have written to the Commonwealth Human Rights Initiative, Campaign for Judicial Accountability And Reform, Forum For Judicial Accountability, MKSS (Aruna Roy)and Anna Hazare regarding this cascading delinquency of constitutional bodies in India.
There has not been one constructive response.
They all appear to be in helpless denial of the awful truth that an innocent citizen has been hounded and humiliated since two decades, not for any bad behaviour or wrongdoing, but for resisting the dilution of the values of the Indian constitution and standing up for the correct administration of the Right To Information Act 2005.
It is in this squalid situation that I have come to conclude that I have come to believe that the Prime Minister of India Dr Manmohan Singh and his Congress party have been wishy washy, namby pamby, lackadaisical, mealy mouthed and covertly encouraging of corruption.
As long as the Eleventh Commandment - Thou Shalt Not Get Caught - was not broken, Dr Singh and his party could be relied upon to engage his considerable personal influence and the immense powers of his office to pour unction on roiling waters.
Faced with a eight day long furore and the cold fact of one of his brightest colleagues having been caught red handed, Dr Singh's reported first response was, " There are ups and downs in politics".
Given such dissimulation from the Prime Minister Of India, a scholar with a reputation for probity, for those who stand up for the idea of the rule of law in India, there is only one long, unbroken "down".
Please visit and participate at http://sathyagraha.blogspot.com/ :
Andhra Pradesh High Court's Pernicious Rebellion Against The Law .05/29/09
RTI Act 2005 Abuse In Andhra Pradesh- SIC Cheats! Chief Secretary Lies!05/07/09
Prejudiced CIC Laps Up PMO Lies 05/05/09
Compelling Criminality. Divakar S Natarajan and Varun Gandhi Cannot Both Be Wrong ! 01/28/09
And India's editorial class will not report the story!
Also Mad Dogs And Guardian UK
News and views from Divakar S Natarajan's, "no excuses", ultra peaceful, non partisan, individual sathyagraha against corruption and for the idea of the rule of law in India.
Now in its 18th year.
Any struggle against a predatory authority is humanity's struggle to honour the gift of life.
Tee Hee. all the anti-democrats on parade, wanting to force yet more mass-immigration on an unwilling and unconsulted population. and still they find ways to tell how sophisticated and educated they are for doing so. and to sneer at dissenters.
sadly for them, the establishment which has fostered this mess, is collapsing round its own ears. and now even the fly-blown carcasses of what used to be called the labour and conservatives parties, before they became shell-companies with management structures, h.r. and budgets, but without production workers, are too busy stealing BNP policies to waste time on electoral pacts. thank god for nick clegg, while I may not agree with some of his policies; but the man believes in clear policy statements, full-on debate and referenda on the really big issues.
I can't think why you get kicked off message boards. Not with your talent for brevity and ability to stay on topic.
writeoff:
It may be advisable to take a broader, humanistic "view of staying on topic."
The discussion gathers steam when we attempt to understand the underlying commonalities in seemingly disparate experiences.
When constitutional and other other authorities do not deliver, society as we know it is in parlous state.
And that is not just an individual's problem.
Cheers!
Nilsson? Doesn't sound very British.
Are you one of the Nilssons that invaded our fair island in the 9th-11th century, raping and pillaging the peaceful Saxon countryside?
Repatriation back to the fjords for you I think!
Well said, Tony.
This line of thinking in relation to the repatriation BNP argument always makes me laugh. Pushed to its logical conclusion, the repatriation "solution" is shown to be blatantly absurd!
And Gosh these Anglo-Saxons have been very busy breeding like rabbits,populating vast areas of Earth.A good thing they emigrated! what would we have done with all these people here?
the ultimate conclusion is that we should all go back to Africa since the whole human race comes from there!!How ironic!
So "Enraged brit" why don't you go back to where you come from?
This just gets madder and madder. Is there something leaking in the conceptual continuum?
First,the 50 grand is a horrible idea. Intimidation and intolerance work much better. I know that brits regard Americans as "fat,stupid yanks",but this Yank is rooting for the natives. I hope you guys can reclaim your country before it's minaret-mania.
£50,000 each is cheap at the price, if it enables us to make Britain British once again.
I wouldn't mind £50,000 to go back to Uganda, from the BNP , after all, the Heath Government did welcome Idi Amin when he came to power after a military coup .
I have already earned compensation from my former employer in the UK for victimisation and unfair dismissal (out of Court Settlement) .
I wouldn't mind another £50,000 to add to that from the BNP . LOL
I'm from one country and my wife is from another. Our kid is born here, actually, but still qualifies for his non-white Brit status, so all combined,we'll take the 150 grand and head to Morocco, which is where I was before here, but still not home, and we'll live a crazy great life on that kind of cash. Albeit I will keep my job here which I tend to do via computer for the most part as it is.
This kind of barmy policy will only create chaos here and abroad.
Small, poor nations such as many African countries would be dangerously destabilised by an influx of British emigrants armed with £50,000 which may be nothing more than 'a tidy amount' in the UK but would make them very rich at home.
I'm sure many people with two British-born parents would be tempted to produce fraudulent papers showing one of their parents was born in, say, Australia and demand to be paid and repatriated.
The money that would be spend on this scheme is far greater than the economic burden immigrants have on the country, even though the BNP would like us to believe that every immigrant is a benefit-thieving criminal.
The majority of decent hard-working first and second generation immigrants who do a great deal of good in British culture and business would probably take this opportunity to not be a part of a BNP run Britain (and remember this will include many white immigrants such as Americans and Australians who I'm sure the BNP would rather see stay). Britain will lose a great deal of talent this way.
The heart will be torn out of multicultural communities. As much as I like real ale, fish and chips and steak pie, I don't like the idea of living in a country where these are the only options and the many cultural and culinary delights brought to us by our immigrant population are banished.
Third generation immigrants will feel cheated. Especially the non-white ones would will be stranded in the UK, left to the mercy of ever more authoritarian BNP attacks on their civil liberties. Racial tension will heighten and riots become commonplace.
Need I go on? I'm sure there's much more.
Will - Anybody can make curry. The recipes are everywhere. You could even open a restaurant yourself.
You talk about racial tension? Well, we have that already and we also have thousands of people here who want to impose their 3rd World cultures on us. Riots are perhaps inevitable but infinitely preferable to a future civil war and the possible replacement of the British in their ancestral homeland. History shows that a nation that is incapable of defending its territory will have it taken from them.
We are being colonised and it must stop.
"We are being colonised and it must stop."
bla-bla-bla
Old Europe, as some of our North American neighbours called us in the recent past, would not be "suffering" from immigration or feeling "colonised" had Old Europe not had so many colonies across the planet on which it built so much of its wealth and power; only to let a whole lot of that literally go up in smoke when it decided to slog it out Napoleonic-style during the First World War.
A whole bunch of the type of people who are at present "colonising" you died to help you on the road to victory, or was that more Germany eventually collapsing from the blockade.
Anyway... Count yourselves lucky that not too many voices are rising up over claims of "reparation" for the plundering of their natural resources, for slavery and induction, or for the continuing imbalance in trade laws which keep people from "developing" countries wanting to paddle upriver to the spring; where all the wealth is; at least that's how Old Europe likes to make itself look when it chooses to "invest" in some exploitative industrial project in those said "developing" nations...
bla-bla-bla, whatever; just open up the debate a bit, look a bit further afield, and stop thinking that what ends up happening in your neighbourhood has only to do with foreigners wanting to colonise you...
The people who are being forced out of their native communities by influxes of chippy aliens, including gang rapists, crack dealers and Muslim bombmakers, would regard fifty grand money well spent to be quit of the ongoing burden on the welfare state that ingrate invaders impose.
In the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, tens of thousands of British emigrated intercontinentally without any such incentives, and they went to countries they'd never seen. Why should it be unthinkable that some of the unhappy, unassimilable people enjoying our hospitality should prefer to live permanently in their ancestral homelands of India, Pakistan, Africa or the West Indies instead of flitting to and fro?
Compensated repatriation was Tory policy until the 1980s and was also advocated by Bernie Grant, the Labour leftist.
You privileged elites, I quite understand, are unconcerned about the interests of vulgar white working class folk; but at least you must start thinking more globally and not assume that all coloureds will wish to stay in Britain as the welfare state begins to wind down.
Go west and east, young aliens, now the hand you have bitten for so long is being worn away to flesh and bone.
the BNP are simply a group of people who are worried about there country.
they have been used and abused by the
corrupt british establishment for the
past 300 years,during that period they were told the british empire was
good for them but it wasnt,the british estalishment raided the world of gold rubber diamonds copper
land oil rubies you name it they stole it,today they sit on there thousand acre estates and let the poor man cope with there legacy.
if you stay here long enough you to will pay for there legacy.
I actually wouldn't mind £50,000 to go live in Mauritius. Thing is I'm half British too. So where do I fit in Mr Griffin's little scheme? In or out? Or maybe half in and half out? £25,000 to spend the winter on the beach?
So complicated. Being a pea-brained racist.
Thing is, given the criminal records of much of the BNP membership, and the rise in racist incidents that accompanies their every petty victory, I suspect the real encouragement they'd be offering would not be financial.
I'm british as far back as I can make out, but give me 50 grand and you won't see me for dust.
I dont know?
fifty grand each to get rid of the morons that write for the New Statesman, and the ant army of retarded Red Guard commentators that post on this site, would be money well spent.
The Liberal Consensus is an artefact of the 20th century - it needs to be dumped in the dustbin of history.
Bye bye lefty assholes.
You are the weakest link.
Goodbye.
'You talk about racial tension? Well, we have that already'
We do, but I can only see things getting worse under the BNP. We will change from having a government that tries to placate rioters to one that positively encourages rioting; turns a blind eye to atrocities committed by 'the right kind of people'; one that openly discriminates against a section of society.
Open a curry shop? I don't think I'd want to, for fear of having a crescent painted on my window or a chair thrown though it.
I see you are worried that immigrants will overwhelm and/or outnumber those with British ancestry, and replace British culture with their own. There are a number of flaws in this:
1) Immigrants aren't all from some far-off land called Immigra where people have this strange language or culture they will impose on us. They are from all over the place, and when they arrive in Britain they are confronted by cultures from all over the world, brought in by other immigrants.
2) Taking the approximately 10% of non-white Brits as the group against which 'immigrant' is usually levelled as a slur (because of course not all non-whites are immigrants, and not all immigrants are non-white); even the largest immigrant group within this, do not make up a significant percentage of the UK population as a whole. Then you have to exclude the majority of them who aren't immigrants and have already adopted British culture more than their own or who at least have no plans on imposing their own culture anywhere (The conflict between conservative Muslim parents and children who are third or fourth generation immigrants and who see themselves as more British than Pakistani is as big of an issue within immigrant communities as the tension between 'natives' and 'immigrants')
3) If you look to America for an example of immigrants not overwhelming the local population. Up until a point, the population of the USA was largely British-descended, with a substantial minority of black slaves who had no power. As immigrants from other places steadly poured in, and slaves were emancipated, most were 'assimilated' into the Anglo-centric traditions of the USA. Even today, when the British-descended make up way less than 50% of the population, the US is recognisably British in custom and the corridors of power are swarming with Anglo-Saxons.
Will - America is an example of immigrants not overwhelming the local population? You are joking, aren't you? Spoken to any Apaches, Cheyenne or Iroqois lately? I think you'll find they see things quite differently.
Look - the British population is not breeding. The immigrant population most certainly is. Muslim women for instance are producing about four children to every one produced by our women. This effectively means that our population halves with each generation while their's doubles. How many generations will it take, Will? Work it out.
And finally, a reminder that Mohammad Siddique Khan and his mates were all British born and that it is a well-established fact that many young Muslims are far more radical than their parents. Just think about it. If Muslims cause us so much grief already, when their numbers are comparatiely low - just think what's in store for us when there are millions more of them.
We are heading for a Balkan-style conflict unless things are changed pretty soon. There are already no-go areas for white Britons in the colonised cities of their own country.
I don't want to see the English, the Scots and the Welsh (not to mention the Dutch, Sedes and Norwegians) dispossesed like the Cheyenne, the Apache and the Iroqois. It seems that you do.
Honestly Mehdi, you and other lefties are missing the point about the BNP. It doesn't matter that their leadership is scum and that they have some ridiculous policies, it won't affect their vote. They are a refuge for voters who feel ignored and despised by the main parties, and there is only one answer to that.
As far as discriminating against indigenous Brits is concerned, I think the clue is in the word "Repatriation".
£50000 for getting rid of benefit fraudulent thieving scum
we rebuild Britain from the blitz
The BNP can rebuild Britain again that this embezzling traitorous parliaments have destroyed
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