Helen talks to former White House aide Ben Rhodes, who was an advisor to Barack Obama, about Trump, US foreign policy, and the collapse of the Iran deal. Then, she and Stephen answer a listener question: is there now a stronger chance of a no-deal Brexit?
The World as It is: Inside the Obama White House by Ben Rhodes is out now from Bodley Head.
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