Humza Yousaf is preparing the SNP for heavy losses

The Scottish leader downplayed independence at the SNP conference.

In this episode of the New Statesman Podcast, Chris Deerin reports from the SNP conference, where even the “statesmanlike” Humza Yousaf couldn’t outshine a guest appearance from his beleaguered predecessor Nicola Sturgeon.

Chris joins Anoosh Chakelian and Rachel Wearmouth to discuss the mood of the conference, which was heavy on expectation management, and the Scottish First Minister’s response to the crisis in Israel and Gaza.

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