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Priti Patel is “pulling up the drawbridge” for Ukrainian refugees, says Alf Dubs

The Labour peer, who came to Britain as a child refugee, accuses the Home Office of “incompetence mixed with malice”.

As the government scrabbles its policy together for Ukrainian refugees, the Labour peer and refugee campaigner Alf Dubs tells Anoosh Chakelian that the response has been a “disgrace”.

He discusses how the government finds itself on the wrong side of public opinion, why Priti Patel is the worst Home Secretary he’s worked with, and why he’d like to see a “more robust” approach to welcoming refugees from the Labour leadership.

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