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Why I believe again

A N Wilson

Published 02 April 2009

A N Wilson writes on how his conversion to atheism may have been similar to a road to Damascus experience but his return to faith has been slow and doubting

Unlike his conversion to Atheism, Wilson's path back to faith has been a slow one

By nature a doubting Thomas, I should have distrusted the symptoms when I underwent a "conversion experience" 20 years ago. Something was happening which was out of character - the inner glow of complete certainty, the heady sense of being at one with the great tide of fellow non-believers. For my conversion experience was to atheism. There were several moments of epiphany, actually, but one of the most dramatic occurred in the pulpit of a church.

At St Mary-le-Bow in the City of London, there are two pulpits, and for some decades they have been used for lunchtime dialogues. I had just published a biography of C S Lewis, and the rector of St Mary-le-Bow, Victor Stock, asked me to participate in one such exchange of views.

Memory edits, and perhaps distorts, the highlights of the discussion. Memory says that while Father Stock was asking me about Lewis, I began to "testify", denouncing Lewis's muscular defence of religious belief. Much more to my taste, I said, had been the approach of the late Archbishop of Canterbury Michael Ramsey, whose biography I had just read.

A young priest had been to see him in great distress, saying that he had lost his faith in God. Ramsey's reply was a long silence followed by a repetition of the mantra "It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter". He told the priest to continue to worship Jesus in the Sacraments and that faith would return. "But!" exclaimed Father Stock. "That priest was me!"

Like many things said by this amusing man, it brought the house down. But something had taken a grip of me, and I was thinking (did I say it out loud?): "It bloody well does matter. Just struggling on like Lord Tennyson ('and faintly trust the larger hope') is no good at all . . ."

I can remember almost yelling that reading C S Lewis's Mere Christianity made me a non-believer - not just in Lewis's version of Christianity, but in Christianity itself. On that occasion, I realised that after a lifetime of churchgoing, the whole house of cards had collapsed for me - the sense of God's presence in life, and the notion that there was any kind of God, let alone a merciful God, in this brutal, nasty world. As for Jesus having been the founder of Christianity, this idea seemed perfectly preposterous. In so far as we can discern anything about Jesus from the existing documents, he believed that the world was about to end, as did all the first Christians. So, how could he possibly have intended to start a new religion for Gentiles, let alone established a Church or instituted the Sacraments? It was a nonsense, together with the idea of a personal God, or a loving God in a suffering universe. Nonsense, nonsense, nonsense.

It was such a relief to discard it all that, for months, I walked on air. At about this time, the Independent on Sunday sent me to interview Dr Billy Graham, who was conducting a mission in Syracuse, New York State, prior to making one of his journeys to England. The pattern of these meetings was always the same. The old matinee idol spoke. The gospel choir sang some suitably affecting ditty, and then the converted made their way down the aisles to commit themselves to the new faith. Part of the glow was, surely, the knowledge that they were now part of a great fellowship of believers.

As a hesitant, doubting, religious man I'd never known how they felt. But, as a born-again atheist, I now knew exactly what satisfactions were on offer. For the first time in my 38 years I was at one with my own generation. I had become like one of the Billy Grahamites, only in reverse. If I bumped into Richard Dawkins (an old colleague from Oxford days) or had dinner in Washington with Christopher Hitchens (as I did either on that trip to interview Billy Graham or another), I did not have to feel out on a limb. Hitchens was excited to greet a new convert to his non-creed and put me through a catechism before uncorking some stupendous claret. "So - absolutely no God?" "Nope," I was able to say with Moonie-zeal. "No future life, nothing 'out there'?" "No," I obediently replied. At last! I could join in the creed shared by so many (most?) of my intelligent contemporaries in the western world - that men and women are purely material beings (whatever that is supposed to mean), that "this is all there is" (ditto), that God, Jesus and religion are a load of baloney: and worse than that, the cause of much (no, come on, let yourself go), most (why stint yourself - go for it, man), all the trouble in the world, from Jerusalem to Belfast, from Washington to Islamabad.

My doubting temperament, however, made me a very unconvincing atheist. And unconvinced. My hilarious Camden Town neighbour Colin Haycraft, the boss of Duckworth and husband of Alice Thomas Ellis, used to say, "I do wish Freddie [Ayer] wouldn't go round calling himself an atheist. It implies he takes religion seriously."

This creed that religion can be despatched in a few brisk arguments (outlined in David Hume's masterly Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion) and then laughed off kept me going for some years. When I found myself wavering, I would return to Hume in order to pull myself together, rather as a Catholic having doubts might return to the shrine of a particular saint to sustain them while the springs of faith ran dry.

But religion, once the glow of conversion had worn off, was not a matter of argument alone. It involves the whole person. Therefore I was drawn, over and over again, to the disconcerting recognition that so very many of the people I had most admired and loved, either in life or in books, had been believers. Reading Louis Fischer's Life of Mahatma Gandhi, and following it up with Gandhi's own autobiography, The Story of My Experiments With Truth, I found it impossible not to realise that all life, all being, derives from God, as Gandhi gave his life to demonstrate. Of course, there are arguments that might make you doubt the love of God. But a life like Gandhi's, which was focused on God so deeply, reminded me of all the human qualities that have to be denied if you embrace the bleak, muddled creed of a materialist atheist. It is a bit like trying to assert that music is an aberration, and that although Bach and Beethoven are very impressive, one is better off without a musical sense. Attractive and amusing as David Hume was, did he confront the complexities of human existence as deeply as his contemporary Samuel Johnson, and did I really find him as interesting?

Watching a whole cluster of friends, and my own mother, die over quite a short space of time convinced me that purely materialist "explanations" for our mysterious human existence simply won't do - on an intellectual level. The phenomenon of language alone should give us pause. A materialist Darwinian was having dinner with me a few years ago and we laughingly alluded to how, as years go by, one forgets names. Eager, as committed Darwinians often are, to testify on any occasion, my friend asserted: "It is because when we were simply anthropoid apes, there was no need to distinguish between one another by giving names."

This credal confession struck me as just as superstitious as believing in the historicity of Noah's Ark. More so, really.

Do materialists really think that language just "evolved", like finches' beaks, or have they simply never thought about the matter rationally? Where's the evidence? How could it come about that human beings all agreed that particular grunts carried particular connotations? How could it have come about that groups of anthropoid apes developed the amazing morphological complexity of a single sentence, let alone the whole grammatical mystery which has engaged Chomsky and others in our lifetime and linguists for time out of mind? No, the existence of language is one of the many phenomena - of which love and music are the two strongest - which suggest that human beings are very much more than collections of meat. They convince me that we are spiritual beings, and that the religion of the incarnation, asserting that God made humanity in His image, and continually restores humanity in His image, is simply true. As a working blueprint for life, as a template against which to measure experience, it fits.

For a few years, I resisted the admission that my atheist-conversion experience had been a bit of middle-aged madness. I do not find it easy to articulate thoughts about religion. I remain the sort of person who turns off Thought for the Day when it comes on the radio. I am shy to admit that I have followed the advice given all those years ago by a wise archbishop to a bewildered young man: that moments of unbelief "don't matter", that if you return to a practice of the faith, faith will return.

When I think about atheist friends, including my father, they seem to me like people who have no ear for music, or who have never been in love. It is not that (as they believe) they have rumbled the tremendous fraud of religion - prophets do that in every generation. Rather, these unbelievers are simply missing out on something that is not difficult to grasp. Perhaps it is too obvious to understand; obvious, as lovers feel it was obvious that they should have come together, or obvious as the final resolution of a fugue.

I haven't mentioned morality, but one thing that finally put the tin hat on any aspirations to be an unbeliever was writing a book about the Wagner family and Nazi Germany, and realising how utterly incoherent were Hitler's neo-Darwinian ravings, and how potent was the opposition, much of it from Christians; paid for, not with clear intellectual victory, but in blood. Read Pastor Bonhoeffer's book Ethics, and ask yourself what sort of mad world is created by those who think that ethics are a purely human construct. Think of Bonhoeffer's serenity before he was hanged, even though he was in love and had everything to look forward to.

My departure from the Faith was like a conversion on the road to Damascus. My return was slow, hesitant, doubting. So it will always be; but I know I shall never make the same mistake again. Gilbert Ryle, with donnish absurdity, called God "a category mistake". Yet the real category mistake made by atheists is not about God, but about human beings. Turn to the Table Talk of Samuel Taylor Coleridge - "Read the first chapter of Genesis without prejudice and you will be convinced at once . . . 'The Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life'." And then Coleridge adds: "'And man became a living soul.' Materialism will never explain those last words."

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39 comments from readers

Oofafoo
13 April 2009 at 18:27

As a raeder of over 30 years' standing and a teacher of Religious Studies I have really appreciated the latest articles on religion. The A.N. Wilson one was one of the best I have ever read in the New Statesman. What I particularly lked was Wilson's humility - as a believer myself, I think those that do believe have to admit that faith is not in the same epistemelogical league as say, knowledge of the external world, so all faith, it seems to me has to be tentative, hopeful,painstaking, even doubting. But then again, so should Atheism!two reasons: Why believe? firstly peak moments like say the first bars of "Kind of Blue" or "Blood on the Tracks" say to me that life cannot just be a blind process -there is something special about it which has been bestowed upon us by a creator.Second, given the first point,there is no way that the millions/billions of unlucky people could not be given recompense in the afterlife and the evila re of course, punished. As to further points, after 20 years of Buddhism, I now find the Qur'an, a miraculous book, explains everything I need to know for this lifetime -it gives me some peace -this is what Islam means. I find myself agreeing with a lot of the Atheist critique, but note that atheists cannot resist being angry and bitter. Chill out guys!

aaroncitychurch
16 April 2009 at 03:55

Excellent article. I sincerely appreciate Wilson's humility. His experience in many ways matches my own. I am struck by God's patience with our unbelief. "If we are faithless, He will remain faithful, for He cannot disown Himself." (2 Timothy 2:13) Surely Jesus' death on the cross covers my periodic unbelief. I wonder if our rejection of God is often not simply a rejection of God but a rejection of various forms of hypocrisy and false religion that exist in the world? I've often found that my own doubts and unbelief were connected to the behavior of people, not to anything God had done. His love and patience were proved to me at the cross. I'm thankful for sincere expressions of faith from genuine and vulnerable people. Thanks for the impressive article.

Danted
16 April 2009 at 17:57

Pretty self righteous Wilson is.

I will say however if he is worried about "what sort of mad world is created by those who think that ethics are a purely human construct" because of the likes of Hitter. Why isn’t he worried about 'the sort of mad world created by those who think that ethics are a god dictated construct" which gave us such things as the inquisition?

As always when people (theist or atheist alike) sit down to write one of these puff peaces about how what they have is much better than what everyone else has it is inevitably short sighted and riddled with bias.

What I don’t understand about the issue is why people (theist or atheist or any-theorist) have the need to prove that what they have is better than what the other has? That the other is missing something; that the other is inhuman or missing out on humanity or is fooling themselves or is brain washed or ect ect. If faith makes you happy and complete like music must have made Bach and Beethoven happy and complete, than that is wonderful. But for Bach and Beethoven to suggest we are missing out on humanity because we don't have their musical ability is simply self righteous and frankly missing the point of humanity completely.

richard
17 April 2009 at 17:27

Danted wrote: "But for Bach and Beethoven to suggest we are missing out on humanity because we don't have their musical ability is simply self righteous and frankly missing the point of humanity completely."

Interesting to see you lumping Bach and Beethoven in with other self-righteous bigots, the ranks of whom have to all our surprise been swelled by good old ANW.

I think though you've slightly missed the point. Nobody is saying that unless we have the musical ability of these giants we are missing out on humanity. Nobody is saying that if we have no ear for music at all we are less human than them. What I think AN Wilson has said, extremely well, is that 1) surely it is fair to say our life is poorer if this is the case and 2) it's a very strange instance of 'blind faith' to deny the existence of great music altogether just because we have no ear for it.

This negative and bigoted view is what he is attacking.

As it happens, in their very different ways, Bach and Beethoven would join in the chorus on the issue of faith in God as well. Bach was undoubtedly the more publicly devout, though like all men he struggled with doubt and the discouragement of the bad example of some professed Christians he had to deal with.

Beethoven is a really interesting case. I strongly recommend the new film "In Search of Beethoven" which I had the privilege of seeing in premiere at the Barbican recently. Here was a Catholic who hated the church of his time (I think it's fair to say) but prayed twice a day with his poor nephew, who ended up living with him.

The nephew tried to commit suicide and Beethoven thought long and hard about doing the same as his deafness worsened. In the end he couldn't do it, because he felt that God had given him a precious gift with which to bless and bring joy to humanity. It takes a hard heart indeed to say that no good was done by that particular moment of faith. And, by inference, billions of others. But everyone has to make up their own mind.

ZAROVE
17 April 2009 at 19:51

I will say this.

Christian Britain in the 19th century had a vast empire, was the Jewel of the world, and the people of London, despite living in the Largest city in the world, lived in a city of low crime.

People lived in peace and Harmony. This is not to say there where no problems, but there were fewer.

In modern, post Christian Britain, teen pregnancy, abortion, STD's, family breakdown, and Governmental poverty highlight the nations news.

People have become interested only in themselves and in fulfilling their own desires, and have created a society in which we use and exploit each other rather than truly care. All for transitory pleasures that do not make us happy to boot.

I am thus in agreement with Wilson, that there is less intellectual assurity in the New Atheistic trend as is presented by its advocates.

celtcat
20 April 2009 at 20:00

Reading this article I am struck by how easy it is to stay "stuck" in the mode of doubt because of our humanity. What I fail to recognize here is any acceptance that God desires relationship with each and every one of us. Yes, we are that important to Him. We are that loved by Him. Which is not to say that we still won't experience trials, tribulations and troubles of the world; as it is so stated in the Bible. Yet, that said, what I have learned is that God wants two things from us; He wants us to accept that we are sinners and the only way to Him is through His Son, Jesus Christ, and secondly, He expects us to communicate with Him. By the mere act of our own sheer willfulness we create the angst that plagues us. If you realize that you cannot find inner peace, God will grant it to you if you "die to yourself" and allow Christ into your heart and give your will over to God. For in our lives it should be His will being done not our own. This is action on our part that will cause the doubt to become nothing more than a shadow from our former selves. Prayer is the form of communication we are to use. It says in Psalms that God bends His ear to us. I have two "mantras" that I apply to my prayer life. "Life is tough. Pray hard." and "Prayer works. Work at it." God is not a human being; He is an entity much bigger than our minds can wrap around. But boy, does He listen when we talk to Him. What I find truly amazing as I walk through this life, is that so many prayers have truly been answered but not ever in the ways that I imagined. "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the Lord. ; to quote Isaiah 55:8. If we stop putting the Lord in a box, a box we created, we will find out just how awesome His majesty, power, glory, grace, mercy and blessings are. My prayer is that all who seek will "find the peace that passes all understanding" as we live this life now in expectation of the life everlasting to come.

Calvin
22 April 2009 at 09:40

Re-Danted

16 April 2009 at 17:57

I am intrigued...is it humanly possible that your

perspective could be the only one that is formed from

a completely 'blank slate'?

No pre-dispositions?, no tainted influences?

Uncorrupted, not 'short sighted' or 'riddled with any

bias'.

You must be super human!

Ian dA
23 April 2009 at 16:38

The crucial passage in Wilson's article is that about the cluster of deaths which affected him. Belief in an exogenous entity is, of course, enormously comforting at such times. It is Nature's way of helping us to cope, and to survive, which is our primary purpose. Wilson's "belief", though delusional, is no less real to him for all that, and I envy him his returning "certainty". He is on rather shaky ground, though, in doubting how language arose. Read the experts!

Peter Reeve
24 April 2009 at 22:41

I do not remember where Ryle called God “a category mistake”. Can anyone please cite a source for that?

Calvin
26 April 2009 at 06:27

Again, (Ian dA),

I am keen to here intellectual arguement from both

sides of this debate but please...

can we at least be internally consistent with our own

measuring rod of critique-"natures way of helping us

cope"- evidence please? pop psychology? personal

opinion?

A second, "Wilson's 'belief', though delusional"...as

evidenced by whom?

Are these propositions, emotively put, "natures way of

refuting arguments, more by defamation and personal

attack than by evidence"???

Let's try keep the arguments intellectually clean.

Brueghel
27 April 2009 at 06:03

Interesting article. It appears as if Mr. Wilson has fallen into the trap of thinking that nonbelief somehow means believing that "life is pointless" (a supposedly causal connection that I have never had sufficiently explained to me by a person of faith) , if his statement that being a materialist atheist means following a "bleak and muddled creed" is anything to go by. Also it seems that he has reduced the faith/non-faith question to a simplistic choice between believing in a deity or believing we are a "collection of meat" which seems out of keeping with the thoughtfulness displayed in other parts of his article.

My experience as an atheist has not led me to either of these conclusions. Rather, religion feels to me to be an extra filter that only muddies my view of the world. Science, art, literature, and music are just some of the things have moved me and continue to do so. There have been plenty of times when I have found myself struck speechless by lifes' inevitable moments of joy and beauty and sadness. Through reflection, these things have taught me humility. I love my family and my girlfriend. I work hard because this satisfies me. I value humour and honesty, loyalty and discipline, curiousity and inspiration. Tell me, what is it that I am missing out on again?

pulseguy
27 April 2009 at 06:08

Ian dA suggests we 'read the experts'. There are no

experts that even remotely understand how a thought

forms in the mind, let alone how we put words to our

thoughts. We don't even really know how we see,

even though we know it has something to do with light

and our eyes. And, no one knows how consciousness

arose from sulphur and carbon and other

unconscious elements. If we can't understand how

our conscious mind came into being, we can't

understand how language arose. There are no

experts and those that pretend to be are the last

people we should be listening to.

S

S. L. Kennamer
27 April 2009 at 08:30

Samuel Johnson probably IS more interesting than David Hume, in the same way that Genghis Khan is more interesting than Obama – Hume is an exceptionally rational thinker, and Johnson is a mass of fascinating prejudices. But here are some "complexities of human existence" – the Downing Street Memo, let us say, and love gone wrong, and Barry Manilow – and I confront them by thinking about them, without a safety net, and Wilson confronts them by thinking that they are explained in the Bible. Okay, we are both confronting them. But what entitles him to say that he is confronting them more DEEPLY than I am? If he is referring these phenomena to the canned answers provided by his religion, while I am taking them as I find them, isn't HIS approach the shallow one? And why, if I am an atheist, am I no longer allowed to affirm Gandhi's human qualities? How exactly do I become like a man who asserts that music is an aberration and we are better off without a musical sense? What entitles Wilson to speak so highly of himself and so lowly of me?

Love and music, therefore God. If no God, then Nazi Germany. No, wait! That's not Wilson's argument, because there IS a god, The God, but Nazi Germany happened anyway, on His watch. (And obviously Wilson rejects that atheistic favorite: If Nazi Germany, no God.) Look carefully: Wilson's argument says, if no BELIEF IN God, then Nazi Germany. This may or may not track the reality. But why would this cause Wilson to give up atheism and believe that God actually exists? Look at the structure of the argument: "They didn't believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster in Cambodia; and then they killed a million people. THEREFORE THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER REALLY EXISTS."

But can I just point out that there were very few unbelievers in Nazi Germany? No, I suppose I cannot.

And then Wilson's trump card: Coleridge read Genesis and was convinced, and was even convinced that I too would be convinced. Therefore Genesis is TRUE.

Antipodes
27 April 2009 at 09:15

Not for the first time, I note that the God-problem is here discussed entirely from the "humanist" side of C.P.Snow's "two cultures". It is not that science "disproves" the existence of God - it does nothing of the sort, but that any description of a God recognizable to the overwhelming majority of believers ( a being at once: omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, eternal, just, loving, forgiving, etc.) strikes me as absurd, impossible, preposterous, arbitrary, etc., when viewed from the Science side of the two cultures. Indeed, while some scientists (but not Einstein - this is a myth) have been believers, the great majority are not.

Paerobinson
27 April 2009 at 11:39

All atheism says, really, is that the order of events goes 1. nature, 2. man , 3. god - as opposed to the religious sequence 1. god, 2. nature, 3. man.

What Wilson and many others don't realize is that both sequences allow for the world as it is with all it's bells and whistles - love, music, religion, cockroaches, language, bacteria etc etc.

The Atheist sequence is the more likely.

E. Weiner
27 April 2009 at 17:39

Wilson seems to believe that life is poorer without sources of transcendence--and he's right. But he also seems to believe that only a god can provide the capacity to experience transcendence in the first place--which is not necessarily true.

Wilson neglects to mention (as many defenders of belief neglect to mention) that all religions make truth claims for which there is not the slightest bit of evidence (let alone proof). And while it's true that a life lived without an appreciation of music is a poorer one than a life lived with music, the analogy ends there.

A life lived without religious belief may (to a believer) be "poorer" than one lived with belief, but we are still left with a concern for what is TRUE. Essays like this never end with "just leave me to my fantasy, because it makes my life nicer." They say or imply, "I was wrong not to believe, and you atheists are wrong, too."

In the end, for Wilson as for Francis Collins, there is a feeling that only the existence of God can explain. But the intensity or the sublimity of a feeling has nothing to do with the truth of what you think it means. Isn't that the essence of what education, maturation, and growing up? That objective truth is an entirely separate matter from subjective feeling?

tomalone
27 April 2009 at 17:53

Good article and I can relate to it from the standpoint of having been a believer and now being an atheist. I know what it's like to have the faith and to pray. But I also feel that it's the easy way out. Being an atheist is tough as I no longer have recourse to prayer in tough times and I have nothing to look forward to when I die. Since becoming an atheist, I do not feel that I am less humane; On the contrary, I feel that I only have one chance to do good and I do so without the reciprocal altruistic view of communal back scratching in order to get into heaven. I feel that being ethically correct without the promise of a reward is purer and truly altruistic. Bringing Hilter into the discussion is foolish as there is no evidence that he wasn't a Christian- or at least, I have never come across any, and I have looked. Both atheists and believers have done evil things (China's cultural revolution to today's Jihadists to name just some). But I do feel that if one were to do a 'cost/benefit' analysis of the two camps- the atheists would have the higher moral ground because we have contributed a lot more to science in general and in particular, the pursuit of life saving medicine. History has also shown that atheists are far less likely to drive planes into buildings... My 'camp' isn't easier to be in, I would love to be a believer again but I can't because it doesn't feel natural for me. I find that it's a tool that I simply do not need if I am to answer the questions that arise in my day-to-day experience of being- if anything, it's like 'throwing a spanner in the works'.

Thomas Malone, Oxford. UK.

ejensen6
27 April 2009 at 19:49

Mr. Wilson,

Please put aside your friend’s unsupported conjecture regarding his memory lapse and read the scientific literature about the evolution of language. Yes, “materialists” think that language “just evolved”. Your argument against the evolution of language amounts to a creationist argument from ignorance which is “I don’t see how X could evolve, therefore X did not evolve.”

-Erik Jensen, Salem, Oregon, USA

malignd
27 April 2009 at 22:34

I read exchanges like this one with

astonishment. Arguments over Hitler

and jejune arguments about the mind,

backed up with Bawdlerized and

nonsensical versions of evolutionary

biology.

Religious thought is patently the work

of pre-scientific people trying to explain

the world they lived in. It is

superstitious, ignorant, and

preposterous. A supernatural being

who created the universe and listens to

our prayers?? Adults believe this. To

laugh or cry is equally appropriate.

Paerobinson
28 April 2009 at 13:20

Mr Wilson raises straw men to strike down. Existence has the same bells and whistles whatever your theological position. The significant difference is a claim about historical sequence: For Atheists Nature-Man-God; For Theists God-Nature-Man.

I don't understand why some theists feel they have struck a winning blow for the supernatural by claiming ownership of empathy, mystery, wonder, joy, love etc etc

I’m an ex-Catholic Atheist – the range of human possibilities and foibles are still there for me. Life didn’t suddenly have the spirit sucked out of it when I decided that God was a human creation.

Mr Wilson wants life after death - as an Atheist, I can empathize with that!

northcroft
28 April 2009 at 16:16

What a lot of hot air - about nothing - "God".

So many words with so little understanding of how we

(and all living life) are built.

It just goes to show that for many of us the complex

organic lump between our ears is not completely up to

the job of rational thought - which it wasn't built for.

Bobby
28 April 2009 at 19:39

Mr Wilson alternates between expressing a wish that God existed, and using a "God of the gaps" argument to say that He does exist. The "gaps" in scientific knowledge the author points to include a full explanation of language. His argument is: since we cannot explain exactly how language originated or evolved, God must have made it. Well, the only way such a specious argument could convince an intelligent person is if that person already dearly wished God existed.

With every scientific breakthrough, the ones who said "God must have made it that way" were wrong. The ones who can read the writing on the wall now, and say about mysteries "I don't know how it is that way, but it's a safe bet it wasn't the godhead of one of the many ancient and medieval myths who did it" are the ones who will be vindicated by history. Perhaps Mr Wilson would prefer the comforts of faith to vindication by history. In this case he has "belief in belief," as Daniel Dennet would put it. He is free to have that belief--and maybe it will lead to his own greater mental health, who knows?--but he is helpless to transform that belief into a cogent argument for the existence of God. The above article, and so many like it, are proof of that.

Gord Wilson
30 April 2009 at 05:03

While I didn't find the recent ruminating by A.N. Wilson

as riveting as the recent work by Anthony Flew on his

return to Theism, the reason is obvious. Wilson is a

writer, and writers ruminate. Flew, on the other hand,

is a philosopher, and as such, rather more categorical.

What they have in common, as a point of departure, is

C.S. Lewis. Flew took up the challenge of the Socratic

Club to debate Lewis and his fellow theists; Wilson, in

The Statesman, remarks of his early disagreement

with Lewis.

Lewis was not under the impression that the radio

talks collected as Mere Christianity would convert

anyone; he was merely trying to be as lucid as

possible about the issues at hand. Neither does Flew

likely expect his book to pack the empty pews, nor

Wilson intend to become a circuit rider. These

believers, if I may use the term, did not, and do not,

have an unrealistic, overreaching view of their work or

its impact. Today's "stage atheists" however, do.

Dennet's "belief in belief" is exactly what these

aforementioned three do not have. All the songs on

the radio about believing, the mottos about the magic

of believing, these are "belief in belief", and this

optimistic social Darwinism may be what everyone

else subscribes to.

But the New Testament begins a different place. "Who

do you say that I am?" is a thoughtful question, one

which required no less wrestling with in first century

Palestine than today. The many structures in

contemporary Britain bearing the title "Trinity" remind

us of a past in which seekers thought they had found

an answer to that question. As the piece on Wilson

shows, it is a question that continues to captivate

thinkers and seekers today.

djk
30 April 2009 at 13:55

Before Wilson gets too excited about Bonhoeffer’s Christianity he should seriously consider his “Letters and Papers from Prison” beginning with the entry dated 30 April 1944. It did, after all, lead directly to the Death of God movement. Wilson also quotes Coleridge: “‘And man became a living soul.’ Materialism will never explain those last words.” And yet, that biblical “living soul” is exactly the same soul that Genesis claims for the animals: it is not unique to humans at all. Finally, what Wilson may need is the explicit realization that “theism” is a genus, of which Christian supernaturalism is only a single species that may well be approaching (deserved) extinction. A serious look at A. N. Whitehead’s process philosophy/theology might serve him well in his present state.

mblade01
30 April 2009 at 17:29

Brueghel wrote:

"...religion feels to me to be an extra filter that only muddies my view of the world. Science, art, literature, and music are just some of the things have moved me and continue to do so. There have been plenty of times when I have found myself struck speechless by lifes' inevitable moments of joy and beauty and sadness. Through reflection, these things have taught me humility. I love my family and my girlfriend. I work hard because this satisfies me. I value humour and honesty, loyalty and discipline, curiousity and inspiration. Tell me, what is it that I am missing out on again?"

I too have had your experience. Don't you ever sit awake at night imagining your inexestence? Don't you ever wonder who 'you' are, and what makes you, well, 'you'? Don't you ever feel a longing for something 'more'? Don't you, in moments of clarity, realize that your love for your family and girlfriend is something deeper than a programmed response? Don't you ever long to have all those good things be the gift of a creator who cares for you? Don't you want there to be ultimate justice?

Where does the concept of justice come from? Where does the concept of evil come from? Where does the second law of thermodynamics come from? Where does the digital information that controls the universe come from?

And lastly, do you ever just wonder, even for a moment, if the historical record of Jesus - His birth, life, teaching, miracles, death, resurrection, and promise of forgiveness, peace, love and reconcilliation (to God and others) just might be true?

When I investigated Jesus (and not just what has been done in his name by professed followers) I found those things. And they have proved to be intellectually satisfying as well.

Hebrews 11:6 - "And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him."

robstroud
30 April 2009 at 19:16

I applaud Wilson's willingness to share his reawakened faith--knowing full well that this would expose him to just the sort of ridicule and venom some of the atheists commenting above have spewed. The comment that Christianity is likely approaching a "deserved extinction" is a superb example of the slightly veiled anger some atheists hold for those who simply believe. (Yes, unfortunately, derisive remarks are also made by believers about secularists.) As for rationalism... it certainly influences a person's belief or non-belief. It can, in fact, play a dynamic role in persuading people that God does indeed exist. However, no one can truly be a Christian (a disciple of the Resurrected Jesus the Christ) without "faith." Gloriously, that faith is, itself, a gift from God. All one need do is accept it (which for those of us who struggle with intellectual pride is no small thing). For women and men who find themselves "reluctant" atheists, I encourage you to pray that God might plant that seed within your spirit. If God does not exist, all you will be doing is wasting some time. If God really is there... you too may find that small seed slowly growing into something vibrant and beautiful. Just as Wilson is now experiencing.

Benson
01 May 2009 at 07:18

Neither atheism nor religion necessarily equips one with the capacity to tap exhilaration from the beauty that is possible to nature and to human artefacts. And neither of them is based on a moral or social philosophy. There are as many of such philosophies and aesthetic tendencies as there as atheists and religionists. The pratfalls in the piece by Mr Wilson are very obvious. I suggest he visit my country Nigeria where religion is among the worst capitalistic industries the world has ever seen. Religious leaders here achieve their success by a combination of materialistic and intangible agencies: magic, rhetorical acumen and outright lies, glitz, stirring music, bribes, and even raw coercion. Thank you.

chris konkol
02 May 2009 at 01:32

It is interesting that atheists have an evident need to deny God. They apparently have a need to be anti-theist. I think it is a personal matter between God and them, between God's love and them. They never seem to look at it that way for some reason.

A.N, Wilson's article has the ring of truth to me. There is no getting away from it. Sorry, atheists.

FromFrance
03 May 2009 at 11:12

Those who believe in a g/God have a need to do so. Those who have no such need tend not thus to believe. At present Mr Wilson has a need. I wonder will he really hold out when he becomes more secure in himself again? It is nonsense to say that music and art can only be explained by the supernatural.

mantutdman
03 May 2009 at 21:08

Brueghel, you ask just what it is your missng out on. It's rather obvious. You're missing out on an definitive way to establish a derived meaning for any of the terms you throw around in your reply. Please define honesty, loyalty, joy, beauty, sadness, etc., from your purely subjective viewpoint of what you have 'experienced'. Would your 'experiences' not necesarrily include the inescapable exposure to premises based on what you readily deny by your world view? You, and others of the same persuasion, conveniently, borrow what suits you, including the very meaning behind the words that you cannot define apart from their origins in meaning. How are you 'inspired', and how do you even know that inspiration is a 'good' thing? Hitler could have said that he was 'inspired' , which , in essence he was, by Darwinism...follow that one through to its logical conclusion. He also would have said that it was 'good' to rid the world of Jews, among others. Without an objective standard for defining any terminolgy, the sky is the limit as to what one conveniently can ascribe to any word, concept or ultimately any ideology. Experience is not sufficient to explain where one stands on anything. It certainly isn't a credible 'guage' for establishing if something is 'good', 'true', or 'false' or 'evil', as it leaves a totally relativistic perspective, no better than the next one's opinion.

Tom Hardy
03 May 2009 at 23:44

The way I look at this topic is it is impossible to go into the topic without our own presuppositions.

What is more important however to me is the fact that if the God that the Scripture's proclaim is real, then He and He only can ultimately reveal Himself to His creatures.

While natural revelation can reveal things about God, only special revelation can ultimately reveal God Himself. I am reminded of John 6:37 where Jesus said: "All that the Father gives to Me shall come to Me, ...".

Jesus said this in the context of (verse 36) why people don't believe. If God gives someone to Jesus, regardless of whether or not they are atheists now, they will eventually come to Jesus for salvation.

As Christians we should not be surprised that people don't believe, for as the Bible says (1 Cor. 2:14) "But the natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised."

It is our job to proclaim the Gospel in the manner He has prescribed in His Word. It is God's job to apply the Gospel to whom He sees fit.

It might be just my perception, but it seems to me that most conversations or debates on this topic, seem to leave God on the outside of the conversation. Rather than trust God that He is able to reach the lost, on His own terms, not ours.

Benson
06 May 2009 at 09:06

But just as nobody today can reasonably plead divine inspiration for crimes and atrocities, so must we equally learn to unburden our dogs of the responsibility for our afflatus and effusions. Don’t pass the buck to your Rottweiler.

Berry
06 May 2009 at 14:54

Science and religion are both concerned with a search for understanding and knowledge about nature and life. Science searches for knowledge, religion for meaning.

Science considers the question of “How” nature “works” using our faculty of reason (epistemology), whereas religion treats the question of “Why” it works, the meaning (if any) for individual existence (teleology), so as to set human life in a context [Midgley]. They thus operate separately in parallel (but not necessarily in the same direction) and it is a categorical mistake [Miller] and confusing to try to link them. Science and religion share the common problems of doubt and uncertainty, but only science is testable and “falsifiable”.

see also the debate instigated by the:

John Templeton Foundation (www.templeton.org/belief/essays/essays.pdf):

salmacis
06 May 2009 at 16:04

Rape, murder, torture, hunger, disease

If this God created everything, then s/he created each of the activities above, or at least created their concepts, so they may be chosen through the exercise of 'free will'.

Second, if this God is all powerful, then s/he chooses to allow those concepts to remain available to man, and chooses to specifically allow each and every one of their of enforcements to occur. Day in, day out, world (universe ?) wide.

My honest question for Wilson is thus, why would a theist give obeisance to such an unrestrained thug ?

Birdman5
06 May 2009 at 20:54

Atheism is just another form of religion. Agnostics are much more creditable. There are things between heaven and earth that simply cannot be known. Therefore, fully realizing that it is a form of cop-out, I declare: I don't know.

Scientists now say that the Universe started with a Big Bang some 14 billion years ago. Nobody has an idea what was before and where all the material and energy that forms our Universe came from. I could believe that a higher force, call it God, caused the Big Bang to happen and established the rules that allowed the galaxies, suns, and planets to develop. And the rules that allowed life to develop on at least one of the planets. But the concept of a personal God, who watches over me and who had a hand in the development of life as we know on earth violates my intellect. As for man as being created in God's image and the ultimate of His creations, a simple test shows how absurd this concept is. Did not God create all living things on earth? Does He not love all of His creations? Then why would he allow his ultimate creation to not only destroy so many of the things dear to Him but also develop the means to destroy the entire earth?

I am comfortable as an Agnostic.

AMDG
19 May 2009 at 08:18

Salmics thesis of the "activities' as being created strikes as a glaring error. No, with respect, God did not create the activities or concepts. They are all the product of human activity, one way or the other.

The concept of free will and faith, however described, reduces the algorithm of religion to a very simple equation. It is a self expressed condition. you either believe in a God or you do not.

Jpenduck
03 July 2009 at 18:43

Astonishing...I remember when Wilson was one of the darlings of the atheistic world, an 'insightful writer', a 'good man' (just some of the comments describing him from some of the New Atheists). Oh, how things have changed: as soon as he rejects the materialist atheistic mantra, he becomes something of a fool, a man who obviously doesn't have a clue of what he's talking about! I reckon most of those atheists who've been reading his books for the last few years and thinking he's amazing are going to start saving their money for someone else! (How fickle people are!)

shlee
15 July 2009 at 15:45

Salmacis writes that "Rape, murder, torture, hunger, disease" demonstrate that if God existed s/he would be a thug and seems to imply, therefore, that God does not exist.

I would suggest that hunger and disease are a different kind of accusation and legitimately might be levelled at a God of love (although humanity should stand complicit too).

However, rape, murder, torture ask different questions and actually cause as many problems for the atheist as the theist.

In the absence of a foundational morality why should these things be wrong at all? All that would matter is that I as perpetrator benefit from them, whilst, along with my tribe, avoid being on the receiving end? In fact it might not even be necessary for my tribe to avoid these wrongs completely, provided (on balance) we collectively gain more than we lose.

The fact that we can draw up a list of evils that are universally recognised (including hunger and disease) is a difficulty for anyone who denies some form of foundational ethical framework. Of course, we don't need God to provide that framework but we can quickly find ourselves tied in rationalist knots when we remove him/her from the picture.

Even if God does not exist we are still left with rape, murder, torture, hunger, disease and must still explain, not only why they exist, not only why they are bad, but also where we gain any hope for humanity since it is we, in the absence of the ‘thug-god’, that must be responsible for their continual existence.

The existence of pain and evil does not prove or disprove God, although it forces questions about the divine character. However, most of us recognise an ethical framework where certain actions are inherently wrong and this begs an explanation as to why and how it exists whether we are theist or atheist.

gloryette
09 August 2009 at 20:34

Am in the process of reading Dawkins God Delusion.His arguments appear to be based on scientific research and logic. But the hypothosis that the incredible diversity and complexety of organisms in our world came about by increment evolutionary steps and accidents that accomodated invioromental adeptation and or survival modes. Creating an abstract world where there is a pre determined and pre programmed gene mechanicanism; in Dawkins view survival of the fittest. Seems to make depressing sense, however I keep feeling there is something missing that needs to be gasp. Even the simplest cell had to come from something, No! there's something missing here.

And serching for the truth is no bad thing!

I need help with holes in his argument that an intelligent power unknown and unseen to us did not create the complexity that we know as our Universe???????.

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