The NS Interview: Haneen Zoabi

“I was not elected to keep silent or to sit at the table and clap” - Haneen Zoabi, Palestinian membe

What is it like being a Palestinian in Israel?
Israel did everything it could to make us forget our history: controlling education and the media, putting us in a ghetto, preventing us from having normal relations with the Arab world and visiting our families in Syria and Lebanon.

Are Arab members of parliament treated differently?
Of course. The state treats all Jews and Palestinians differently. Israel doesn't recognise us as the owners of this homeland. The theory is that we have equal civil rights, but the practice is very far from this.

Do you endorse a two-state solution?
The reality of Israel's actions shows us that it's unrealistic to have a real sovereign state in the West Bank and Gaza with Jerusalem as the capital. The more realistic solution is one state with full national equality for both national groups.

Is the west right to refuse to engage with Hamas?
No one can tell the Palestinian people whom to choose as a government. Hamas is not a terrorist organisation. I don't think that Hamas has a clear political vision, but regardless of whether I disagree [with it], the international community cannot mediate neutrally if it starts to label the organisations of the Palestinians as illegitimate.

Why did you join the Gaza aid flotilla?
The natural question should be: "Why not?" I participated not just because I'm Palestinian, but because I believe in freedom, equality and justice. One and a half million people in the biggest prison in the world is not just an occupation, it is a humiliation.

Did you feel a duty to speak out?
I was not elected in order to keep silent or to sit at the table and clap.

Were you surprised by the violent response?
I wasn't surprised, but I didn't expect it to be so severe. This aggressive kind of reaction indicates a total breakdown of politics. They could not challenge our arguments politically, so they called us traitors and terrorists.

Do you have faith in the Israeli investigation into the flotilla raid?
No, none at all. Those accused of committing war crimes cannot investigate themselves. Bin­yamin Netanyahu [the Israeli prime minister] has said that this committee will show that Israel is a victim and that there were no violations. So is he already stating the results?

You've had death threats. Are you afraid?
Personally I am not afraid, but politically I am worried. After the vote in the Knesset when they stripped me of my parliamentary rights, two members - one from the coalition, one from the opposition - said: "Haneen, this is just the beginning, this is not the end - we don't want to see you in the Knesset." They mean not just Haneen, but everything I represent.

Will you be able to carry on working?
We didn't expect an easy struggle. I chose to be involved in politics because I was born in a racist context. I will continue using all the democratic tools that are available. I ask Israel not to push us into undesirable activities.

Are you against the very idea of Israel?
We do not want to throw Jews into the sea. We are not against Jews. We are against Israeli policies and the definition of Israel as a Jewish state.

How does the struggle in the Palestinian territories compare to your own in Israel?
This is the difference - as citizens of Israel, we are utilising all the tools that we have, but those in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip have given up resisting occupation.

What about the Palestinian Authority?
The PA seems more focused on building a state than ending the occupation. It's irrational; you can't negotiate borders while Palestinians are under siege and Israel is expanding settlements.

What is your hope for Arab citizens in Israel?
I have a vision of our rights as indigenous people. We didn't migrate to Israel; it is Israel that migrated to us.

You've been quoted as saying that it would be a good thing for Iran to have nuclear weapons.
That is inaccurate. It cannot be that someone who is struggling against oppression is calling for nuclear weapons. But if the world doesn't prevent Israel from having nuclear weapons, why does it prevent others?

What would you like to forget?
I think it is better not to forget. I want to learn from the mistakes and enjoy the positive memories, especially because I live in a context that is obsessed with making me forget.

Do you vote?
Of course I vote. I am a political representative.

Are we all doomed?
No. If you struggle for justice and human values, then this is enough reason to continue.

Defining Moments

1969 Born in Nazareth
2001 Joins Balad (National Democratic Assembly), the Israeli Arab political party
2003 Co-founds and heads I'lam, an NGO exposing Israeli media bias
2009 Becomes first woman to be elected to parliament (Knesset) on an Arab party list
2010 Participates in the Gaza aid flotilla in May. On 13 July, the Knesset votes by 34-16 to strip her of three privileges, including the right to hold a diplomatic passport

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davka's picture

Cabinet: Nawaf Massalha, an Arab Muslim, has served in various junior ministerial roles, including Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs, since 1999. In 2001, Salah Tarif, a Druze Arab citizen of Israel, was appointed a member of Sharon's cabinet without portfolio. In 2007 the first non-Druze Arab minister in Israel's history, Raleb Majadele, was appointed a minister without portfolio, and a month later appointed minister for Science, Culture and Sport.

Knesset: Arab citizens of Israel have been elected to every Knesset, and currently hold 12 of its 120 seats. The first female Arab MP was Hussniya Jabara, a Muslim Arab from central Israel, who was elected in 1999.

Supreme Court: Abdel Rahman Zuabi, a secular Muslim from northern Israel, was the first Arab on the Israeli Supreme Court, serving a 9-month term in 1999. In 2004, Salim Joubran, a Christian Arab from Haifa descended from Lebanese Maronites, became the first Arab to hold a permanent appointment on the Court.

Foreign Service: Ali Yahya, an Arab Muslim, became the first Arab ambassador for Israel in 1995 when he was appointed ambassador to Finland. He served until 1999, and in 2006 was appointed ambassador to Greece. Other Arab ambassadors include Walid Mansour, a Druze, appointed ambassador to Vietnam in 1999, and Reda Mansour, also a Druze, a former ambassador to Ecuador. Mohammed Masarwa, an Arab Muslim, was Consul-General in Atlanta. In 2006, Ishmael Khaldi was appointed Israeli consul in San Francisco, becoming the first Bedouin consul of the State of Israel.[

Israel Defense Forces: Arab Generals in the IDF include Major General Hussain Fares, commander of Israel's border police, and Major General Yosef Mishlav, head of the Home Front Command and current Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories. Other high ranking officers in the IDF include Lieutenant Colonel Amos Yarkoni (born Abd el-Majid Hidr/ عبد الماجد حيدر) from the Bedouin community, a legendary officer in the Israel Defense Forces and one of six Israeli Arabs to have received the IDF's third highest decoration, the Medal of Distinguished Service.

toomas's picture

Hi!
To give new impetus-why not to create gipsy state(in India of course) and begin to support it like U... supports I..?

Linda J's picture

Thanks to Haneen Zoabi, the only straight-talking politician I've seen in ages. Long may she serve and help Palestine prevail!

triedeinsursE's picture

Those evil Israelis have Muslims in their government. tut tut.

AnnaGooms's picture

Perhaps Buckskins can tell us the names of the Muslims serving in the current Israeli government.

How on earth can Haneen say that people in Gaza and the West Bank have given up resisting occupation ?

Has she not heard of the non-violent resistance which is growing by the day?
Bil'in, Budrus, Beit Jalla, Beit Ummar, Nal'in, La Massaara, Wad Rahal, Al Wallaja - some of the places which are resisting to name but a few.

David Bennett's picture

The Zionist agenda since 1948 has always been to seperate the people from their land. This was extended in 1967 and continues today under Netenyahu, Lieberman et al .

In combination there is the Hasbara campaign of denial of the the original and continuing crime's.

I agree with Hanni Zoabi the 2 state solution is dead in the water with 500,000 settlers in the occupied terrotaries.
The only answer is to find away to share the land and to have some truth and reconciliation on both sides.

I fear this is at least a generation away.

D.R. Gardner's picture

Brave, intelligent lady.
A one-state, binational country, a la S. Africa, is the only way forward. Two state is solution of zionists if they see world opinion favors one state, and it is forced on them by the US and BDS Boycott.
However, I suggest that she buys life insurance.

Maxine Kaufman-Lacusta's picture

MK Zouabi is quite right in pointing out that the Palestinian citizens of Israel are using the tools available to them, but Like Maggie (above), I'm shocked that she seems not to be aware of the extensive and ongoing nonviolent resistance to the Israeli occupation--both on their own and in partnership with supportive Israelis and internationals. I'd like to suggest that if her precarious political position precludes her travelling to the West Bank to see for herself, she consult with Mustafa Barghouthi--who's been many times to Bil'in--Omar Barghouti of the BDS movement, among others. She would also find much info on this subject on the web and in my recently released interview-based book, _Refusing to be Enemies: Palestinian and Israeli Nonviolent Resistance to the Israeli Occupation (Ithaca Press 2010). With best wishes for a shared future, with justice and peace for us all.

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