Can talking make you better?
CBT does not cure cancer, schizophrenia or arthritis, but it does improve mood, coping and quality o
By Simon Wessely Published 01 May 2008Professor Ravetz is right. Cognitive behaviour therapy is Labour's new therapy of choice. But why is it suddenly popular in government circles not previously noted for their interest in psychological treatments?
Talking therapies are nothing new, but despite their long history many have struggled to prove themselves in a health service dominated by the economists. Psychoanalysis looks at deep-seated reasons for why we are the way we are - but even if it can answer questions about the human condition, it has not proved a success in treating specific disorders, and often takes years not doing so. In contrast, counselling is usually brief and cheap, but is sometimes not much more than sympathetic listening and empathy. Neither is much good when it comes to treating well-defined conditions such as panic disorder, phobias, obsessions and compulsions.
Cognitive behaviour therapy does represent a genuine advance in the treatment of many conditions. Unlike psychoanalysis it does not depend upon searching inquiries into childhood or early life, or speculative forays into the unconsciousness. CBT is about identifying conscious thoughts - thoughts about dying when having a panic attack, for instance, or about being useless when in the presence of other people. And then it is about how we react to these thoughts and how these behaviours in turn impact back on our thoughts and feelings. Perhaps I was in a road accident some years ago. Now I refuse to get into a car in case it happens again, and get tense and anxious even thinking about it. What I need is to identify my fearful thoughts, understand how they relate to my experiences, and then start a cautious programme of overcoming these fears by gradually spending more and more time in cars, as I learn that it is not inevitable that history will repeat itself. CBT is directive - it is not enough to be kind or supportive, although CBT therapists should be both - what is also needed is clarifying the thoughts which are determining our reactions and planning new behaviours as alternatives to these previously unsuccessful ways of coping or managing symptoms.
CBT has one further advantage over its predecessors. Because it is easier to describe, monitor and evaluate successes and failures, and because it deals in measurable outcomes, it lends itself to the empirical approach. And so there is now a wealth of evidence sufficient to satisfy even the most sceptical health economist that CBT can and does improve outcomes in various disorders.
Randomised controlled trials, which remain the gold standard of evidence, have shown that CBT is effective not just in the classic psychiatric disorders such as post-traumatic stress disorder, major depression, agoraphobia or schizophrenia, but also physical disorders such as cancer or rheumatoid arthritis, and even disorders such as irritable bowel syndrome or chronic fatigue syndrome that lie somewhere in between. Of course, CBT does not cure cancer, schizophrenia or arthritis, but it does improve mood, coping and quality of life.
CBT is not a panacea. And yes, it is trendy. Too trendy - since in the largely unregulated bear pit that are the psychotherapies virtually anyone can, and many do, claim to be carrying out CBT. To become a skilled CBT therapist takes about the same length of time as it does to become a doctor. That raises legitimate questions about the new "Improving Access to Psychological Therapies" initiative. Sometimes known as the Layard initiative, after the economist who has steered the scheme through government, this is intended to add 3,500 new CBT therapists to the NHS workforce.
A predecessor, the "Graduate Psychology Programme", which gave GPs access to psychology graduates who had not completed any clinical training and who became known colloquially as "barefoot psychologists", ran into difficulties since many GPs found that these willing but unskilled personnel lacked the experience and qualifications to make any meaningful impact. The Layard scheme has learned from the past, but will need to ensure that improving access is not at the expense of standards.
Finally, is this really a sly scheme simply to reduce the staggering costs of disability benefits? The answer is no, not directly. The aim is to give everyone who is suffering from clinical depression or an anxiety disorder the option of an effective psychological treatment, regardless of whether they are on benefits or not. However, if that also means that some are able to re-enter the world of work, then so much the better. If there is one thing that has been established by a generation of psychiatric research, it is the strong relationship that exists between mental health and unemployment.
Simon Wessely is head of the department of psychological medicine at the Institute of Psychiatry, King's College London
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BEHAVIOR fear, anxiety. IS REASONABLE. but it would be fair if it were not in place. To overcome it. I suggest to realize fairness and merelakanya to achieve a less anxious and fearful lagi. http ://klinikpsikis.com /understanding-anxiety-anxiety / there described as a state of anxiety about the fair
My post of yesterday, detailing Wessely's association with PRISMA Health, has been pulled. PRISMA is the private corporation employed by New Labour to 'offer' CBT packages to disability claimants. In case the post was pulled inadvertently, or because the supporting link was deemed poor quality, I'm reposting with a link to the same information in Lords Hansard, Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Debate, 22 Jan 2004.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200304/ldhansrd/vo040122/text...
Countess of Mar: "Wessely school psychiatrists are about to receive £11.1 million, including £2.6 million from the Medical Research Council, in an attempt to strengthen the weak evidence that his regime actually works for those with ME. Among his 53, largely undeclared, interests it should be noted that he is a member of the supervisory board of a company, PRISMA, that is supplying such rehabilitation programmes as CBT to the NHS for those with ME, even though such regimes have been widely shown, at their best, to be of limited and short-lasting benefit and, more importantly, at their worst, to be actively harmful to those with the disorder."
Professor Simon Wessely of the Institute of Psychiatry claims that 'randomised controlled trials' remain 'the gold standard of evidence' but doesn't mention that this strong statement can only truly be the case where trials are placebo controlled, properly blinded and properly randomised.
Even then, the results cannot be generalised completely, and may even apply only to the trial subjects under the particular trial conditions, and not to the population at large.
There seems to some confusion about the nature of RCTs at the Institute of Psychiatry.
Writing about his own and others’ CBT 'trials', Professor Wessely's colleagues at the Institute of Psychiatry, Professor Trudie Chalder and Dr Mary Burgess, CBT therapists who are pivotally involved alongside Prof Wessely in a repetitive, redundant, unblinded non-randomised (in the true sense) non-placebo-controlled CBT 'trial' at the taxpayers vast expense (PACE - funded by the Department of Work and Pensions & MRC), claimed about the trials apparently underwriting and justifying the PACE trial, in their 2005 book "Overcoming Chronic Fatigue" :
"The effectiveness of CBT in treating CFS has been evaluated in three well-conducted research studies undertaken since the 1990s. All three were conducted as randomized controlled trials; that is, trials in which there are more than one treatment group, and participating patients DO NOT KNOW which group they are in. CBT was found to produce better results than the other treatments with which they were compared."
How could participating patients NOT know which group they are in, and why would CBT therapists Prof Chalder and Dr Burgess make such a claim about trials, comprehensively slated by knowledgeable professionals in various journals, about a situation where there are in fact no ‘other treatments’ ?
It's surely problematic enough in real medical research where there's enough biological variability to skew results rendering them invalid, even with double blinding, proper randomisation and placebo controls, but the problems must become insuperable, if not intractable, where these RCT requirements are ignored in a situation where there's no objective measures, no clean diagnosis, a reliance on the treacherous self-reports of subjects glad of some, if not the only attention they’ve ever had, vulnerable subjects who can be easily manipulated no matter how unintentionally, and an extraordinary pressure on the trialists and hence participants to get the results the DWP obviously want, from a trial costing the taxpayer millions.
Worse , the trialists have already decided what the results of this 'trial' will be in advance (see NHS Plus).
Of course, fatigue is a signal that something is wrong and logic dictates you find what’s wrong and treat that, not the signal there’s something wrong. There are no strawberry shortcuts, whatever the DWP hope.
Gold standard?
Gold standard? £11.1 million.
"archiecoch" wrote about the PACE trial's lack of credibility.
What about the mountain of uncontrollables and uncontrolled for
variables being swept under the grubby middle aged DWP carpets of this
seeming CBT show trial?
There are no plausible mechanisms you can check and nothing being
objectively measured. It's worse than trials in homeopathy or astrology.
The PACE trial is bound by the Helsinki Agreement and requires "fully"
informed consent, in addition to participants fully understanding the
implications and "aims" of the trial.
Fully informed consent including a complete understanding of the trial's
implications could not have been sought, otherwise there would be no
trial participants and no trial, obviously.
Jonathan Rutherford's article "New Labour, the market state, and the end
of welfare" contains important information about the "aims" of some of
the people who have "designed" and are now running this trial (Sharpe M,
Wessely S and Aylward M)
http://www.lwbooks.co.uk/journals/articles/rutherford07.html
I guess one would really have to figure out who was on the ethics
committee, how well informed and exactly how independent they actually were.
It should really be very thoroughly and independently investigated by
the appropriate international authorities.
Otherwise it's a predetermined Pyhrric victory for the aficionados of
CBT for "CFS" (the M.E deniers), and a huge loss to society as more
research money goes down the drain and a quarter of a million people
affected by M.E. in this country are condemned to remaining physically
ill every day of their lives, often very severely.
Florence Nightingale had M.E./CFS, or something indistinguishable from them - perhaps Brucellosis.
Nobody accuses her of faking.
The cost to society of not having a cure for M.E./CFS is incalculable, but I have seen it estimated at 23 BILLION Dollars.. The cost to the UK taxpayer of Wessely's chat plans so far has been over eleven million pounds. We need a CURE for M.E./C.F.S and related illnesses - not CHAT.
Professor Wessely asks - 'is this really a sly scheme simply to reduce the staggering costs of disability benefits?' - and immediately provides a very straightforward and unambiguous confirmation that this is indeed precisely the case.
'The answer is no, not directly' - i.e. - the answer is yes, indirectly.
Professor Wessely's colleagues were directly - 'involved in developing guidelines for the Department of Health on the management of CFS for Occupational Health Physicians' - and were both directly and indirectly involved with a NICE guideline on CFS.
'One staff member' - has been - 'conducting workshops and lectures on the cognitive behavioural treatment (CBT) of CFS all over the UK' (RV5 Better treatments for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome - South London and Maudsley NHS Trust).
A 'key finding' of their NHS Plus guideline was that - 'Cognitive behavioural therapy and graded exercise therapy have been shown to be effective in restoring the ability to work in those who are currently absent from work'.
For their NHS Plus guideline they elected to mine SD Ross et al's ready-made review - "Disability and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome" - 'as the basis for [their] systematic review' .
While SD Ross et al. had already concluded (Arch Inter Med 2004) that - 'No specific interventions have been proved to be effective in restoring the ability to work' - Professor Wessely had also concluded ( JAMA 2001) that he and his colleagues' CBT and exercise ideas for 'CFS' were not 'remotely curative'.
The costs to the taxpayer must be simply 'staggering' as yet more experiments are carried out on members of public to 'prove that' - rather than 'evalute if' - CBT works for CFS (and everything else).
Meanwhile scientific research into the causes and cures of disease must inevitably suffer as a direct consequence.
After reviewing the 'best research' literature on the subject Professor William M Epstein provided direct insight into this disturbing social phenomena when he wrote in 2006 ('Psychotherapy as Religion' - Nevada University Press) that - 'CBT appears to be the favored contemporary choice of psychotherapy, eclipsing psychodynamic and behavioral treatments as American society intensifies its preference for personal responsibility over social responsibility, exaggerating an already exaggerated heroic individualism... for all its deficiencies, (CBT) has not inspired effective clinical practice... the best research offers no credible evidence of any successful psychotherapy for any condition. In just this way, both the theory and the practice of CBT are social languages, that is, "schemas" of social meaning, a Wittgenstein language-game, a universe of discourse. Failing as science, cognitive theory and cognitive-behavioral treatments become interesting as social phenomena of belief - it is fascinating to speculate why contemporary culture accepts the metaphysics of CBT rather than behavioral therapy or psychodynamic therapy, or for that matter Christian Science, colonic irrigation, or phrenology'.
I have a lot of respect for CBT when properly applied; my point is that a watered-down version of it applied by under-qualified people can easily do more harm than good. Space constraints made it impossible to say in my article that people on incapacity benefit that I have come across would love to return to work if only they were fit enough. If all the good things originally promised in the Pathways to Work programme were actually delivered, a proportion of claimants (nobody knows how many) could perhaps be enabled to do this. But this is very different from bullying them into work they are unable to sustain. Serious physical or psychological conditions cannot suddenly be made to disappear by political fiat.
Interestingly enough, the lead investigator of the PACE trial, a Proffessor Peter White, spoke on You and Yours recently.
He said; "Like many, many illnesses if I have something going on in my brain, such as thinking at the moment, that is a physical process happening in my brain and therefore if I have a feeling or a thought it is physical, it's not entirely psychological".
A kind of NewLabour's Freudian slip.
The "something going on" in his brain he likens to "many illnesses".
He seems to suspect, albeit unconsciously, that his thoughts are a bit diseased.
Feelings and thoughts are psychological but mainly physical, he infers, out of convenience, trying to publicly avoid suggestions that he thinks ME is psychological and his methods are psychological, both of which are the case of course.
But you can typically have a physical thought and a psychological feeling, as you do !
Take your pick, follow your whim, or in this case, the money.
You wouldn't fly in an aircraft with a pilot exhibiting this degree of confusion.
But then they tend to have regular check ups of both body and mind.
With reference to Archiecoch`s comment, as someone who has participated in the CBT aspect of the PACE TRIAL, I totally agree with his comment. Even although I was very vulnerable due to CFS, and so desperate for help I would possibly have tried witchcraft, it was quite obvious to me that the "therapist" was trying to manipulate the results and had immense pressure on him to secure specific findings. Due to having studied psychology for 4 years and myself being a psychiatric nurse (as was the therapist), his "tactics" were very transparent. He was so desperate to obtain desired results, that after I told him I was disengaging he phoned me on 3 separate occassions asking me to meet with him to wish me well. When I met with him to bring closure to the situation, he told me only another 2 sessions would have been necessary as only 8 and not the full 15 on offer would render his research on me complete. Although I was extremely ill following a relapse on return from holiday, his concern was only for his research and his behaviour resembled that of a bad car salesman who realised the sale he thought he had secured was slipping from his grasp!
Fortunately I have much improved since disengaging from CBT via the Pace Trial which was an extremely negative experience which made my CFS much worse. There is no way any research which relies on self reporting by vulnerable patients that are influenced by unscrupulous "therapists" with a vested interest in obtaining specifific outcomes can be classed as scientific or reliable.