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Opposition grows to Cameron's boundary changes

A significant number of Tory and Lib Dem MPs are prepared to vote against the coalition's boundary c

In two weeks' time, the Boundary Commission will publish its first draft of the new constituency boundaries, a seemingly mundane act that could trigger one of the biggest rebellions of this parliament. The Tories' decision to couple the boundary changes with a reduction in the number of MPs from 650 to 600 has created a class of legislators with a vested interest in blocking the reforms. Hundreds of others, who will see their majorities fall, are similarly troubled by the changes.

It's therefore unsurprising to see today's FT report that the proposals could collapse when they are voted on in 2013. Labour, which has consistently denounced the reforms as gerrymandering, will vote en masse against them, as will a significant number of Lib Dems, many of whom no longer feel obliged to support the reforms after David Cameron betrayed his promise to play only a limited role in the No to AV campaign. Lib Dem MP Andrew George said: "Will we object? I think that some of us will when it comes to it."

Almost everyone can find something to dislike about the boundary changes. The plan to equalise constituency sizes will disrupt traditional boundaries and historic communities without correcting the electoral bias towards Labour (which is not due to unequal constituencies), and the redrawn boundaries will take no account of the 3.5 million people not on the electoral register, producing a skewed electoral map that ignores millions of eligible voters. Meanwhile, the accompanying 8 per cent reduction in the number of MPs will not be matched by a commensurate reduction in the number of ministers, further reducing parliamentary accountability and swelling the payroll vote.

Cameron will continue to proclaim that the reforms will benefit both his party and democracy but asserting something does not make it true. One suspects that an increasing number of his own MPs will conclude as much.

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Stuart Eels's picture

The UK must be one of the most over governed Countries in the World, first the UK Parliament, then the devolved Assemblies, then the all powerful County Councils with their "Cabinets" then District Councils and Parish Councils.

You are arguing from the wrong angle there too many MPs since devolution, do any with those sitting in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland and make those countries MPs sit there two ddays a week and the same with England. It will give them something to do and still cut the numbers to 600.

John Jones's picture

To come back at BigC and his quoted "statistics": In better days the Conservative Party, electorally, was always associated with a strong vote emanating from the Shires (countryside, small town and village). Big city and large town populations tended to vote Labour. The LibDems (or just "Liberals", as they were then), fitted in somewhere but I propose not to go into the "where", as in this Coalition they are merely making up the Tory numbers so that Cameron and Co. might make up a "government" of sorts.

As far as I am aware Labour constituencies have generally had a larger voting population but been smaller in area. Conservative seats tend towards a much larger constituency area, electing their MP's with fewer votes overall. To balance the size of the constituency boundary viz-a-viz voter numbers in each case was impossible, but the number of seats in a Parliament gave a greater degree of fairness.

Proof of the pudding occurred in the 1951 election when the Tories were put in to govern with more than one million votes LESS than Labour. This has apparently happened on other occasions, working in the favour of either of the two largest parties. A "swing-vote" has generally decided the fate of the incumbent party except where landslide voting has occurred. The status quo in this case need never have been changed - it made for balanced voting and a change of government when the people so chose.

Allowing for the fact that there HAVE been boundary changes in the more recent past which will have altered the balance of voting in some constituencies, these proposed boundary changes (IF passed) will make general elections and, one suspects, bye-elections even more unfair than now, as in the past NO reduction of parliamentary seats has been involved. A change of democratic voting rights is intended which WILL affect the right of many people to elect a KNOWN parliamentarian of their choice. This should be blocked whatever political party one may support!

BigC's picture

Another load of drivel.

"Almost everyone can find something to dislike about the boundary changes."

Errr...no, it's been needed for years. Virtually everyone I know likes the idea...cuts costs (less MP's) & makes every constituency the same size (fairer).

"The plan to equalise constituency sizes will disrupt traditional boundaries and historic communities without correcting the electoral bias towards Labour (which is not due to unequal constituencies)"

What's the bias due to then if not constituency sizes? Considering it takes thousands of votes less per Labour MP than for a Conservative or Lib Dem I think you'll find it IS the constituency size that matters!

"the redrawn boundaries will take no account of the 3.5 million people not on the electoral register, producing a skewed electoral map that ignores millions of eligible voters."

Winner of the daft comment of the day... It's not ignoring anyone...If they're not on the electoral register then they're not eligible voters! Doh!
Making everyone go on the electoral register...now that is a different argument.

And to those who say the Tories are simply gerrymandering the system and there isn't a bias...NO, they're simply correcting the unfair bias towards Labour. For example...

2005 election...Labour 35.2% of vote, 55.2% of seats, majority 66
2010 election...Conservatives 36.1% of vote, 47.1% of seats, Majority -20
So Labour got less % of vote in 2005 than the Tories did in 2010 but ended up with a 66 seat majority
Hmmm...Looks like bias to me!

frances smith's picture

it has always puzzled me why the lib dems supported this in the first place, as even someone with basic maths skills could see the ongoing impact on each constituency of the changes in size, and seeing as they are so reliant on the public profile of their mps within their constituencies, the redrawing of every single constituency boundary was bound to destroy the personal votes of all their mps, which they are so reliant upon.

but i am not sure which theory has been proven, either it is that turkeys do vote for christmas, or that mps vote for bills because their whips tell them to, without reading them first, or both!

it deserves to be lost, because it was stupid, undemocratic, reduced accountability, probably extremely expensive to implement, etc, etc, etc. and even the assumption by the tory party that it would benefit them was questionnable. it was an awful lot of change for no benefit. it is a white elephant bill that perfectly represents the appalling self interest of the cameron tory party.

oh well, watching what happens next is going to be fun!

A. Cole's picture

Brilliant idea!

Equalise the constituencies.
Reduce the number of MPs.
Full idependence for Wales and Scotland.
Limit donations from the trade unions to £50,0000.......and...

LABOUR ARE SCREWED!!

p j wall's picture

To the unbias Tory person above, do you think these changes would be happening if the majority of seats lost where Tory ones?, and in your unbiased Tory opinion, if it was labour coming up with these plans would you still find them ok?, or does being a tory give you the divine right to rule?, just wondering, considering you`re an unbiased Tory, and find elected labour governments very biased and unfair because they won?, But with you being unbiased the only fair result to you would be a permanent Tory regime??, Hmmmm...Looks like bias to me!.

Simon lewis's picture

Whatever the Tories do this shambles of a govt will be seen in years to come as the worst since 1935 and will lose office. The above comment by A Cole is the only way they can keep office. Gerrymandering just like Lady Porter

Acamar's picture

The government apparently have time on their hands.

Suzanne's picture

What is it with Tories and The New Statesman? They're obsessed with it.

Andjel Moredu's picture

Theory of everything lies in
zero-dimension with the formula
M= -0+
This new formula has today,
Prime Minister David Cameron. also that the formula now has a Minister
for Environment and
Energy development.

Indu Pendent's picture

@Simon lewis - crikey, it would make the coalition more of a disaster than the last government with the massive debts it left for our kids.

@Suzanne - the issues left by the last government transend party politics. Thats what you are seeing

Anon's picture

Put simply the government plan is to rid Britain of 50 Labour MPs. No prises for guessing why it has so much opposition.

matthew fox's picture

What about the massive debts racked up by Thatcher and Major? And for an encore, they blew £350 Billion worth of North Sea Oil Revenues.

InduPendent has a god given ability to transcend the realms of fantasy and denial.

Kizza's picture

@Indu pendent - the debts left for our kids came from the GLOBAL BANKING CRISIS - the hint as to who is responsible is in the name by the way - granted you can have a go at Browns deregulation strategy but bear in mind Osbourne planned to deregulate even further and was saying so at the time.
The most tragic thing is people like yourself are so busy blaming the last government for bad bets made in the city that the real culprits have gotten away Scott free......

Kizza's picture

@Matthew Fox, spot on.

p j wall's picture

Is it me or does that picture of Flashman make him look like a cabbage patch doll!!!.

JohnRuddy's picture

Dont forget, every Government in history has left debts for the children of its voters - North's Government left the debts of fighting the American war of independence for children to repay in the 19th Century... The debts of the second world war wernt paid off until the 1990s.... its the way things have always been, so saying it is so wrong to do so it just playing politics.

matthew fox's picture

It is sad B Flat denies the facts, and gives us a sob story to chew on.

Mrs T plunged this great country into a wasteland and is still angling for a £5 million state funeral.

Honest John put 17.5% VAT on energy bills, remember that one.

rm's picture

Thatcher reduced national debt throughout her term.

She did open up competition that has been good and should be extended (single payer model) into health and education.

However. She let the neoliberals in. She allowed the Big Bang and finance came in and industrial policy was poor.

I am of the right. It is time to nationalise the banks. (Or give everyone a post office account and let them collapse.

Some things are too important(and monopolistic) to leave to private provision. Rent seeking will cause higher costs and corruption lead to the misallocation of capital.

Markets are not always efficient.

Eugene N White's picture

Reducing the number of MPs is one of those knee-jerk things which will gain public support 'reducing the number of crooks in parliament? I'll vote for that!', but is pretty dumb when you think about it.

The fewer MPs you have the more power those that are left will have, this is a recipe for more corruption, not less.

REPAY's picture

Equalizing the size of constituencies is unarguable. However reducing the number of MP's is not. There are other anomalies to be addressed. For example, the UK does not extend the vote to all citizens. If you live abroad you loose your vote after 10 years. This is unique in the western world.

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