Why do you believe in God?
In last week’s New Statesman, I asked 30 leading public figures why they believed in God. Here, I delve beyond their answers.
By Andrew Zak Williams Published 20 April 2011 15:45
What better question can there be for the New Statesman to tackle in its God issue than that of God's very existence?
"I'm a believer", published in last week's New Statesman, deals with that very topic. The way that I prepared it was by asking 30 prominent people to tell me their main reason for believing in God. For most of them, this was the Christian God. To add some spice to the mix, half of them were scientists.
I was intrigued to know how their answers would differ from the others'. Many of the answers are set out in full or in part in my article. But what I'll try to do here is delve behind the quotes.
Although most people were able to supply objective reasons for their belief, some of them conceded that their decision to believe nevertheless required them to take a leap of faith. This seems to be what the Bishop of London meant when he echoed an Alfred Tennyson refrain, saying that there is everything suggestive which constantly draws him "to cleave ever to the sunnier side of doubt".
Similarly, the Daily Mail columnist Peter Hitchens told me that he is "ceaselessly interested to know why anyone would – in the absence of definitive proof either way – actively prefer the idea that the universe is accidental and without purpose. Such a position seems to me to be far more intellectually difficult than mine." Perhaps he partly had in mind his brother, Christopher, one of the world's most prominent atheists, who also prides himself on being an "anti-theist": that is, someone who is firmly opposed to God.
A quarter of those I asked told me that they had experienced God. Usually this was in the form of what they believed were answered prayers, as well as feeling the presence of Jesus in their lives. Perhaps surprisingly, this answer was more common among the scientists. Even so, it was a former cabinet minister, Jonathan Aitken, whose experience was the starkest. As he told me, "Some years ago I went through an all-too-well-publicised drama of defeat, disgrace, divorce, bankruptcy and jail. In the course of that saga I discovered a loving God who answers prayers, forgives and redeems."
"All that you imagine"
Believers and unbelievers differ in the probative value of their religious experience. Perhaps a sceptic is hardly entitled to dismiss a personal experience that he has not had. Then again, most Christians would surely agree that the experiences of followers of other religions cannot amount to proof of the existence of their gods. So, is it just Christian experience that is to have any evidential value?
Among the non-scientists, the most common argument for God's existence was the example set by Jesus. For the radio and TV presenter Jeremy Vine, "The story of the gospels has stood the test of time, and Christ comes across as a totally captivating figure." Similarly, the anti-abortionist Lord (David) Alton referred to God's genius and love, which he said are expressed most powerfully in the claims of Christ. And the Bishop of Liverpool added, "All that you imagine God would be, Jesus is."
Denis Alexander, director of the Faraday Institute for Science and Religion, developed this point. He said he was "intellectually persuaded by the historical life, teaching, death and resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth, that He is indeed the one He claimed to be, the Son of God. Jesus is most readily explicable by understanding Him as the Son of God."
An advantage of believing in God for this reason is that a believer does not have to answer the usual follow-on question: but if there's a God, why would it necessarily be the Christian God? Even so, many sceptics would counter that the nearest to a contemporary record of Jesus's life is the Gospel of Mark, which was written at least 40 years after the crucifixion. So, perhaps unsurprisingly, scholars have had trouble with the historicity of several features of the gospel accounts.
Richard Swinburne, probably the world's best-known living theologian, told me that there are cogent arguments for the existence of God. One of his reasons was the most common one I heard, particularly because most of the scientists mentioned it. For instance, Dr Hugh Ross, who leads the American Christian apologetics ministry Reasons to Believe, told me that it was discoveries in astronomy that first alerted him to God's existence.
He referred me to what he called compelling evidence for God's existence emerging from research into the origin of the universe. In particular, the Big Bang appeared to him to offer the best explanation for the history of the universe and was consistent with biblical teaching.
The government's "poverty tsar", Frank Field MP, succinctly made the same point when he said that believing in God makes more sense than any other explanation of why we are here.
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A similar argument that sometimes crops up when people discuss God's existence is that if the laws of physics were even slightly different from how they are, life as we know it would be impossible. It is claimed that as it is highly improbable that the fine-tuning of the laws of physics arose by chance, God must be responsible for it. A third of the scientists brought up this point.
On a related theme, the prominent American biologist Kenneth R Miller asked me: "Why should science, which requires order and predictability to work, even be possible? Where does that order come from?" His answer is God.
It is largely for these reasons that the bestselling science writer Professor Paul Davies considers that the universe is rationally ordered. However he told me, "I am sure I don't believe in any sort of God with which most readers of your article would identify."
Sceptics may be surprised that so many people, including well-known scientists, feel the need to posit a God to explain either the Big Bang or the laws of science. After all, last year Stephen Hawking made headlines when his latest book concluded that God was not needed to kick-start the Big Bang because the universe was able to create itself from nothing.
Hawking's opinion was based on M-Theory, which predicts that there is more than one universe; rather, the number of universes in existence is in the region of ten followed by 500 zeros. So it is hardly surprising that we find ourselves living in the universe whose laws of physics allow us to exist. However, not all physicists feel comfortable with M-Theory, especially because it is not yet complete.
About a quarter of those questioned saw the Bible as presenting a convincing case for God. Stephen Green, national director of Christian Voice, believes that there is an intellectual coherence to Scripture. And Hugh Ross told me that the Bible predicted what scientists would later discover: the beginning of space and time, the continual expansion of the universe, the constancy of physical laws and the concept of entropy.
Perhaps a queue of sceptics wishing to challenge this bold way of interpreting the Bible would stretch across that very expanding universe. And even the main events of the Old Testament, such as the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt and their subsequent wandering in the wilderness, have been doubted by archaeological studies.
A third of the scientists considered that humanity provided evidence of God's handiwork. Michael Behe is the biologist whose theory of irreducible complexity forms the purported scientific basis of Intelligent Design. He believes that the fact that humans can comprehend and reason indicates the existence of God. The molecular biologist Nick Brewin also commented that humanity appears to occupy a unique position among all life on earth due to its Godlike ability to store and manipulate information.
He argued that, rather than concluding that this was all mere chance, we should try to make sense of the signs and wonders that are embedded in a revealed religion.
Even so, there was a consensus that science cannot explain everything. Professor Michael Reiss, professor of science education at the Institute of Education, London, stated that his belief in God does not involve abandoning the scientific way. "Instead it's a larger way of understanding our relationship with the rest of the world, our position in nature and all those standard questions to do with why we are here, whether there is life after death and so on."
A fifth of everyone I questioned saw the existence of God as simply the best explanation going. As Stephen Clark, professor of philosophy at Liverpool University, put it concisely: "I believe in God because the alternatives are worse."
The same number of people referred to the existence of morality and our notions of beauty as pointing to God's existence. According to the physicist Peter Bussey, it is reasonable to suppose that our shared sense of beauty and morality should correspond to some kind of transcendent source. "Why else should it be there?" he asks.
Sceptics may reply that our sense of right and wrong is simply a product of human evolution; after all, societies founded on poor moral systems are likely to die out. Even so, the question of whether Darwinism alone can explain adequately why morality should pass through the generations is a hotly debated topic within the context of the God Debate.
Nowadays, Christians may feel that they are under siege by the so-called New Atheists and are having to justify their beliefs as never before. But whether they like it or not, this is a debate that will go on and on.
Andrew Zak Williams has written for the Humanist and Skeptic. To contact the author email: andrewbelief@gmail.com.
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29 comments
Ang
Don't worry you already have.
@Kyle McDermott - despite your pretense of intellectualism you contraduict yourself when you conjoin "self-organised" and "telelogical". Teleology requires a pre-exisitng plan, self-organisation does not. that's the whole point of self-organisation, it is an immananet rather than transcendent form of organisation. Teleology explanations aretranscendent becasue they pre-exisit what they are supposed to explain. you lose
You have to take the mechanistic view of the universe and of molecular biology for it all to make any sense. You have to appreciate the wonders of nature that over billions of years life has evolved to where we are at now, and is still evolving. When the Sun's energy ceases, thats it.
"Sceptics may be surprised that so many people, including well-known scientists, feel the need to posit a God to explain either the Big Bang or the laws of science."
Well, er, no, not really. Because, of course, you didn't interview any atheists (except maybe Paul Davies). So obviously your results were skewed!
Dan
I heard a story the other day about a creationist and a non-believer. The creationist said " what is the likelihood of all these atoms coming together randomly forming us and the universe. And then we have a conversation about this fact, what is the probability of that without divine intervention". The non-believers answer '100% possible'
I don't understand why anyone curious to know how the universe came to exist would choose to believe in a god or gods. Firstly, why believe anything when we don't know enough to draw such conclusions. Secondly, the answer "god did it" isn't a satisfactory explanation.
You are asking people to believe in something that man invented. There is no evidence in the material world for something that exists only in the imagination.
Being and Engineer means that Science has played a huge role in my work, I could not do it without studying it. It also played a large role in how I looked at the world and people, now after 10 years of also embracing God into it all I am a better Engineer as well a person. The BIBLE has many useful technical details and humanistic examples of how we should live on Earth and describes in perhaps minor detail how everything came to be in Genesis. As a Christian I do not decry other peoples' beliefs and work to understand them. I'm not sure what Atheists believe in really...If one wants to say that everything happened by chance you would have to tear up the laws of Thermodynamics and state they were wrong...they are not though. Hawkins is not as clever as many people think..still a clever man though...not a Newton, not an Einstein is he..thank God...atom bombs et al LOL.
All is possible under God if "he" wills it.
To me God is perhaps the ultimate scientist, the supreme intelligence and divine architect.
Man's worst invention was money which can bring out the worst in Humanity, Man's best invention was the concept of God which at times through the various religions can also bring out the worst in us I guess too. A penniless Atheist would likely agree!
Becca you have missed the point about the big bang, it is in essence backed up scientifically and doesn't really go against what the BIBLE says. Study Physics, Chemistry and Biology as well as the Bible and you will eventually start to see the whole picture ;).
For me as a person Love is the most powerful force in the universe, without it I'd be a mere "machine".
Who or what invented Love?
Peace be with you all.
Oneself does not.
Nor in the C of E, the UKGBNI, the Monarchy... !
Melvin Roa, scientists don't say that humans evolved from monkeys, they say humans share a common ancestor with monkeys and other great apes. If you can't look at the evidence and understand the theory enough to believe in it at this late date, it's really a sad statement about the intelligence of our species, which wouldn't reflect well on your god or any of the others that primitive humans have promulgated over the millennia. As easily as you dismiss the other gods of antiquity without seeking evidence of their absence, I dismiss the god you propose.
Hawkings book did not say this:
M-Theory which predicts that there is more than one universe; rather the number of universes in existence is in the region of ten followed by five hundred zeros (10^500)
He wrote 10^500 different fundamental laws can exist there could be an infinite number of universes.
Consider this - governments spend billions of pounds exploring the universe and along the way, seeking evidence of life in other galaxies.
However, not one penny is spent seeking any of the Gods, or evidence of any of the Gods, even by those who claim to be believers. That's because it would be a complete waste of taxpayers money and they wouldn't dare try to prove different.
Lies. All lies.
Akupara holds the world on his back. Every Hindu knows that to be true.
Why is the Statesman promoting this lying religion above the truth of Akupara?
Akupara is invisible to non believers. Prove me wrong, liar.
I believe in God because I believe it is the most rational thing. I believe something can't come from nothing and that if we come from something, the creating power logically MUST be of a different origin i.e. we are finite, hence the creating power must be infinite, we are needy, hence the creating power must be free of needs etc.
I find the Christian concept of God doesn't conform with the above definition as Jesus was a part of tripartite: Jesus had dimensions, Jesus ate, slept etc. and hence Jesus couldn't be God or part of God.
I respectfully disagree with Christianity though.
Religion is man-made and was used in the past to control people through 'putting the fear of god in them'.
Nowdays people are more aware of the scientific facts ie the cycle of a star, meaning our Sun and all the planets, will die and no god can save us.
I suppose people choose a nice mythical story to cushion themselves and their children.
We were born from stars and I am quite happy to turn into stardust at the end.
I believe in God, but I am very afraid of seeing Him someday. I hope He will embrace me as I wanted to do to Him. I want to see my family there also, my parents, sisters neighbors, friends, classmates, officemates, everyone. We are just human beings. We continue to seek for truth with our existence. God is too wise where no one can predict his plans. He is like a writer, that in His novel are written events he have planned and directed to be. When one dies, that is the only you can find the answers to our questions. There is no harm in believing the existence of a God.
Just want to clarify this to scientists who said that humans had evolved from monkeys, my question is "how come there are still monkeys nowadays? Should they be turning into human beings too?"
God bless
As usual, a good sample of some of the most ignorant, uneducated, wishful thinking that can be found in the entertainment world. becca is classic.
Why Bishop of Liverpool believes in Jesus to be God, is the greatest surprise of my life. He says: all that you expect to find in God, can be found in Jesus....To me. nothing can be more ridiculous than this. Maybe the Bishop has never taken a few minutes out of his precious time to read the Bible, or read it in depth. It only suits a bishop like him to follow a God who called himself the weak and humble...and who prayed to a superior God the whole night in order to save himself from the crooked Jews who were bent upon killing him through putting him on the cross. The prayer was: Eli Eli Lama Sabaqtani'..."MY Lord! My Lord! Why have you forsaken me'. In addition, the Jews spat at Jesus' face...wore over his head a band of thorns and spoke most despicable things about him. A God who is unable to defend himself against such things, cannot be our God. For God's sake...!!!!!!!111
Steven Hawkings says there is no Heaven...this is true for Steven Hawkings, who will never see Heaven. One has to feel God, believe in God, trust God, know that God exists...for he is all around us. I feel sorry for the poor soul who's arrogance or stupidity keeps him from God, for he shall not have eterrnal life. I would rather have believed in God to find out there was no God, than not to believe in God, to find out there was. God help those who do not believe, or refuse to seek God. I will pray for you!
Fail.
Anyone that thinks that the universe could have created itself out of nothing, or that thinks that the universe has existed forever (cyclic universe) is obviously an idiot.
But a Creator creating Himself out of nothing, or One that has existed forever, now THAT is TOTALLY plausible!
Apply Occam's Razor: the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one. Ergo, although counter-intuitive, the most likely reason for us being here is chance and NOT the magic wand of some wizard.
A man can be brilliant in one aspect of life, and as dumb as dirt in others! My 10 year old son said to me at Easter, "God says if you believe in him, you will be with him in Heaven, and at world end, he will create a new beautiful world for his people who believed and had faith. I said yes you are right! My son says,"Then why mom would you not want to seek God and be faithful to him." My answer was, some people live to be 90-100 and don't "get it" but, you are 10 and you do. My 10 year old son I know will be in Heaven with God someday and I have done my job! Very sad to read some of these postings. Very sad lives, I am sure...Some of your names match your postings!
Of course you can't create something out of nothing. And any idiot will tell you that the Universe has always existed, but God had nothing to do with it, because God doesn't exist.
"Born from stars" ?? What happened
to the stork!!
god is an imaginary friend for grown-ups. it's a construct for people to scared to seek answers they don't want to hear.
"Eli Eli Lama Sabaqtani'" translated properly actually reads "My god, how thou dost glorify me" - J ralston Skinner Source of Measures" -
"M-Theory which predicts that there is more than one universe; rather the number of universes in existence is in the region of ten followed by five hundred zeros (10^500) " and where are all these universes if not in the one whole, the above can only be parts as they are divided and can be counted as wholes in themselves, that they are intelligible proves their presence in the one to which nothing can be added to nor taken away from...
institutional christianity (churchianity) is an irreverent audaciousness to humanity when access to divinity (a universal - any universe.;) inherence) is denied to an individual except through the intercession of their (church) chosen minister, some of whom have woefully re-interpreted "suffer little children to come unto me"...
It is respectfully submitted that the Big Bang was not an unguided expansion of space-time matter-energy (i.e., it was not an event analogous to a “bomb” “exploding”); rather, it was an ordered expansion of space-time matter-energy (i.e., it was an event analogous to a “seed” “sprouting”): therefore, it did not “explode” – it sprouted. As to who or what “planted” it, there is no way to know. Nevertheless, Aristotle’s notion of the unmoved Mover (or God, if you prefer) is a sound hypothesis. Therefore, adherence to a theistic-spiritualistic-teleological paradigm is just as, if not more, sound than is adherence to an atheistic-materialistic-evolutionist paradigm; note please the use of the term evolutionist: evolution of course is true, scientific, and undeniable. Evolutionism, on the other hand, is the philosophy of nihilism: evolutionism is nothing more than atheist metaphysics. Perhaps Darwin didn’t perceive the larger, all-encompassing order – the layered, nestled, hierarchical space-time matter-energy bioelectrical harmonic webbed nexuses of holonic planes and dimensions – in which the processes of evolution unfold, without which the processes of evolution could not engender ever more complex life, sentience, and consciousness: but for the proto-order somehow embedded in the Big Seed, blind, unguided evolutionism seems incapable of producing anything other than chaos. Evolution seems more a cosmic process, initiated by whatever entity/force begot the Big Seed; it seems undeniable that the cosmos has gradually, incrementally self-organized - from the very small to the very large - and that we are a teleologically unfolding part of that gradual, incremental, self-organized expansion.
Do you ever feel that you need something to staisfy you?You feel as lonely as ever and anything you try to do to quench that thirst will not work?Well, just to save you from a life of distress, the bing bang is a lie. The Big Bang states that there was a body of water and that there was lighteneing and it striked the water and the molecules randomly combined to produce a living cell which created the few million galxies out there. First of al, if this one in a million thing happened, there are different types of cells with different functions, and a plant cell cant just evolve into and animal cell and it cant just go from a brain cell to a red blood cell. Second of all, if this happened, where did the watre and lightening come from? Thirdly, most scientist are belivers in God and that tells you something because they see the perfection of the univers and the absolute beauty and they immidiately see that evolution isnt poossible; your famous Charles Darawin rejected his theory himslef. So just turn to the lord, you have nothing to lose either way anyway, JUST CALL O LORD HELLCHANG YOUR LIFE!!!!AMAZING GRACE HE WIILL AFFORD IF IN EVERY PLACE YOU CALL O LORD!!THE GOSPEL OF TODAY SAYS BELIVE AND YOULL BE SAED AND THEN YOU WILL GO TO HEAVN AND SEE THE PERLY GATES AND WALK THE GOLDEN STREETS, WORDS LIKE THESE FAIL TO TREAT ALL THE VANITY THAT IS HIDDEN IN ME!!FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOYYEN SON THAT EVERYONE WHO BELIVED IN HIM WOULD NOT PERSISH BUT WOULD HAVE ETERNAL LIFE JOHN 3 :16 !!
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