The rise of the far right in France
Front National leader tops the latest poll.
By Jonathan Derbyshire Published 05 March 2011 23:01
In a post last week about the travails of Nicolas Sarkozy, I mentioned the debate on the place of religion in France launched recently by the president, a move criticised on both left and right for "stigmatising" Islam. If Sarkozy's intention in starting that conversation had been to drain support for the far-right Front National, it doesn't seem to be working.
A poll measuring voting intentions in the first round of next year's presidential election to be published tomorrow in Le Parisien, places FN president Marine Le Pen (daughter of Jean-Marie) in the lead with 23 per cent, followed by Sarkozy and the Socialist Martine Aubry neck and neck on 21 per cent.
Interviewed on the RTL radio station, former Socialist prime minister Laurent Fabius attributed the increasing influence of the far right to the "themes for debate" chosen by Sarkozy. Aubry herself, who has yet to secure the Parti Socialiste's nomination, said of Sarkozy: "Instead of rejoicing when the people of Egypt and Tunisia rise up for democracy, he sows fear among the French people, as if [events in the Middle East] would lead to hordes of new immigrants [coming to France]".
Hat-tip: Arthur Goldhammer.
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If we don't begin to have an honest debate about the consequences of immigration on wages, working conditions, pressure on public services, etc then we will see a rise of a far right party in this country. The BNP were incompetent, and focused on a single religion which was out of order. However, despite being led by an idiot, they still polled really well in the general election, and remember that in 2007 they won many council seats in Barking and Dagenham, and Stoke on Trent, which are traditional white, working class towns and cities that have been destroyed by immigration.
Unless the mainstream parties start talking about immigration, a new far right party could capture the hearts and minds of the British public.
Luddite - so do Western countries, what's your point?
Attributing negative qualities as unique traits of Islam/Muslims is ridiculous. I mean come on, the British Empire was one of the most brutal regimes ever to exist.
Europe really does need to become more liberal. We need to consign the insular and protectionist ideologies of socialism and conservatism to the dustbin of history for good.
Sam, without protectionism our living standards in this country and elsewhere in Europe will be irreparably lowered. The influx of cheap Chinese goods has already destroyed our manufacturing base, while we've been swamped with immigrants who have undercut the wages of indigenous workers, whilst also putting pressure on public services and fracturing tight knit communities.
You mention that socialism is "insular and protectionist", and yet the UK Trade Unions have never once spoken out against immigration. In fact trade union leaders are the first to defend immigration, even though it's against their workers' interests. So I don't think socialism, as practised by the UK trade unions is in any way insular. It is so liberal, that they have forgotten their role, which is to represent the white working class.
Conservatism is also not insular or protectionist anymore. After Thatcher, Reagan etc, the so called right have adopted neoliberal extremist free market and free trade policies, to the detriment of the indigenous population of this country.
So you can see why indigenous voters are shunning both the left and the mainstream right, because both accept the dogma of globalisation and free markets, even though both policies have such adverse effects on the white working class.
Surely you can know see why the French are looking at the so called "far right" to give them the sort of economic security and strong communities that they crave for?
SR819
06 March 2011 at 11:33
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What he says!
Absolutely right
@SR819:
"It is so liberal, that they have forgotten their role, which is to represent the white working class."
Since when has the union's job been to represent only the white working class?
There's plenty of black and asian working class british people and plently of white eastern european immigrants.
It sounds to me like you're a bit of a racist in moderates clothing, even if you don't actually realise it yourself.
Oh come on, what have I said that's racist? The racists who comment on the NS are those who make bigoted remarks against Mehdi Hasan, which I am totally against.
Nothing I've said is bigoted in any way. Look at Will Hutton's new book, where he makes similar arguments to mine. Listen to the editor of Prospect, who has said tha Labour should become an anti-immigration party if they want to reclaim power. Listen to Paul Mason's reports for Newsnight, where he pointedly makes the point that the one issue that angers people in the UK is immigration. All these journalists, editors etc are left wingers, who can actually see that immigration and support for immigrants is actually damaging for the left. Shame that the unions can't see that.
At last we have a so called "far right" party being taken seriously. They are only called "far right" because we have a mainly left-wing media who have total backing in the schools and universities in this country which have poisoned society with their multicultural claptrap.
The "right" is coming back at last, and long may it spread throughout the world, it is the only way the White man will survive the racial genocide being implemented by the Left.
Stephen,you're not allowed to say that, because the liberals don't like hearing the truth, so they resort to ad hominem attacks accusing others of "racism".
It's not racist to note that many towns and cities in this country, like Stoke on Trent and Barking, have suffered severe demographic changes, and the changes have taken place in such a short period of time that he local indigenous communities have suffered because of it.
SR819 - Did the Labour's nationalising of dying industries benefit the working class in the long term?
Hundreds of thousands of working class people were encouraged to get skilled up in industries that were only being kept alive by state subsidies. When Thatcher came a long and withdrew those subsidies it created an underclass with no transferable skills and who have pretty much lost all aspiration for themselves. Then in the 90s when the economy was doing better (albeit on easy credit) most of those jobs went to immigrants because most of the underclass were unenployable and many had settled for a life on benefits. Because this underclass was left behind we needed those immigrants to keep the economy going.
So we can see that the cause of the plight of the working class today is down to the Atlee government encouraging people to get skilled up in work that had no future, and the Thatcher and Blair/Brown governments for just leaving them to rot and not try to retrain them.
I don't feel it's acceptable to blame immigration for the the destruction cause by Atlee, Thatcher and Blair.
How you you 'stigmatize' Islam?
They have had an appalling record of behaviour in Europe since we allowed them to immigrate en masse in the latter half of the 20th century, and prior to that they enslaved, raped and mass murdered countless non Muslims across Europe and Asia.
Any bad reputation they have as a group they've earned.
Islam is the sole reason the far right is gaining ground in Europe. Not the Hindus, or Sikhs; just the sex offending Sharia monsters we've allowed to colonise our continent.
SR819, claiming only white people deserve protection from unions is racist, there are legal british citizens of many races who are fully deserving of those rights.
The fact that you imply anyone not white is an immigrant worker is what makes you a racist, not the fact that you're concerned about immigration.
All I see living in London is most religions and races trying to get along side by side be they Sikh, Hindu, Christian etc apart from followers of islam who seem to want everything given to them and all others to bow down to them, even moderate mosques preach never to trust or befriend a non muslim unless it is to turn their head to islam, i wonder why the far right is getting such a following!!!
Mathilda you are utterly absurd. You do realise that white people are more likely to commit sex crimes than anyone else?
I don't understand how people like you can content yourself with being so illogical.
Sam, Whats your fucking point.. Wasn't it the royal navy that helped end the vile slave trade. Liberalism is destroying our living standards. The west can no longer afford liberalism, is that to radical for you mate!! times have changed..
It's because of liberalism that we've been swamped by immigration, why jobs have been outsourced, and why the living standards of the WWC have dropped significantly. It's because of free trade (another liberal ideology) that our industry has been destroyed.
The BRIC nations are emerging, and the only way to stop them developing is to employ illiberal policies, like trade sanctions against them, halting all immigration from Asia and other protectionist measures. If we don't do that, our country will be destroyed and the indigenous population will eventually become a small minority. Perhaps that what the liberals want after all.
@ Luddite
The Turks head seems to be a popular pub name but as a historian could you tell me where it comes from?
And. during the campaign against the Boars in Africa who was it that set up concentration camps for women and children? What happened to those women and children?
andyg, the great siege of malta 1565.
that book by Bradford in fantastic.
It's still a much more liberal country than ours.
With much better food, fashion, films etc.
I agree.
Well, I think France really needs Marine Le pen. Sarkozy and the socialists (in power )have put that country in such a state. insecurity, immigration, unemployment, europe diktat, muslims trying to impose charia rules etc etc... I do believe french have enough and wanna make a big change into the political scene.
France's last chance : Marine Le Pen
Smirk while you can.
Yes, Choses de la Vie. So liberal that it dictates what women can and cannot wear. What Britain really doesn't need is 'liberalism' like that.
Here was me thinking that it was liberalism that gave us our living standards in the first place...
Tell me, which closed economy enjoys the same living standards as ours? Cuba? North Korea?
The BRIC countries are our best hope. They have a massive growing middle class that will want the kinds of products that we could easily give them. But muppets like you two obviously think Castro knows best!
Why is Islam exempt from critical analysis? In Western society, there is no shortage of critics of Christianity. Indeed, no many college campuses it is open season on anything that has the faint odor of Western Civilization Christianity included even though Christianity, like Islam, originated in the Middle East . One might wonder why Islam, which sees itself as a continuation or fulfillment of Judeo-Christianity, is not subject to the same intense criticism. Instead, multi-culturalism treats Islam as a protected species an indigenous ethos inseparable from a people. Consequently, self-appointed Politically Correct thought-police stifle debate on Islam by shamelessly playing the race card even though Islam is not a race.
We've been here before with her father Jean-Marie Lepen. He was elected in the first round of the elections once and the French were left with a choice between the right or the far-right.Some people were crying as they were casting their vote for the right wing candidate.
But there is NO WAY that she would ever be elected and this first round of elections means nothing. It is a protest vote by people who know she has no chance whatsoever.The voting system allows this to happen as you first say who you want (often a protest vote against the main parties) and then you have a chance to choose between the 2 front runners. It is more democratic I suppose but it can throw some nasty surprises. Still this isn't good but depressing.
Will and Pete, you don't know what you are talking about and your comments are ignorant and offensive.
@ Stephen Camfield
You so right. Couldn't have said it better myself.
It only far right because the gov and media at the core is biased to the left
The reason why the N.F is raising its ugly head again (same in the UK) is because virtually all the mainstream parties REFUSE to talk about immigration / assimilation-integration within a european society, european christian roots even in secular countries (such as France)... Every now and then, a short lived outburst as just recently, but their refusal to talk & look for real log term solutions make it all too easy for the far right to take ownership of this area of the political debate
Nazi documents unearthed after VE day show, briefly, that at various stages during the war, and particularly in the latter stages, Nazi officials in charge of Jewish affairs were prepared, in exchange for cash and the promise of relief dollars, to divert Jews from concentration camps. In the closing stages of the fighting they were even prepared to allow children to proceed to Palestine on “illegal” ships. At each stage the ex-Mufti insisted on their dispatch to concentration camps and threatened exposure to Hitler if any were allowed to escape to Palestine. None did. They all ended up in concentration camps. And few escaped the gas chambers and crematoria.
The {Islamic} Ottoman Turk government set up and paid special killing squads. The Ministry of the Interior gave instructions to ‘exterminate all males under 50, priests and teacher, leave girls and children to be Islamized. e.g. rape the women so they go to Islamic hell after they kill them and convert the children into soldiers for Islam.
Historians have estimated that (Muslim) Turks killed 800,000 to 1 million Christain Armenians in 1915 alone, and an additional 200,000 to 500,000 over the next seven years.
Daniele. I'm i being 'ignorant and offensive' What is it about. The religion of peace that many on the apologetic-left can't handle. Islam does have an appalling history of conquest rape and murder and thats before we talk about it's lack of tolerance.
Also, when people say we've been swamped by immigration, I sometimes think they're going a bit over the top considering 9/10 people in Britain are white and we have one of the lowest percentage of immigrants in the western world.
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