Sam:
How many socialists do you know then Sam ? 1, 2? Because, as a Socialist, I wouldn't have much to say to you apart from " you are talking complete bullocks".And that would be the end of a beautiful friendship.
So for you Hitler and Castro, same thing? you are a comedian.
First of all the guys you mention are mostly communists and some of them are just plain dictators with no particular brand attached to them .One, Chavez, has been repeatedly elected and is the most popular leader in south America.
As for the others, it is like me equating any right wing leader, let's say Cameron to extreme fascist dictators like Pinochet or Franco.(or Hitler I was going to say, but you actually think that one was a lefty, right?)
Any ideology pushed to the extreme will result in dictatorships, left or right. So what is your point?

I think I'd agree with Hasaan that the Beeb is not biased, if anything it may be slightly tilted towards the Establishment. Certainly the very people at the top at are Establishment figures ie Chairs and Directors. Whereas those at the bottom end of the pile may lean towards the movers and shakers, but they don't have the power. So Hunt is whinging about bias as most Govt Ministers of whatever complexion always do.

Pretty much been here before.

I seems Jeremy Hunt, who bad mouthed the victims of the Hillsborough, will never learn.

Is the BBC's Political Editor not a Tory?

I couldn't say that the BBC as a whole has a bias, a look at BBC Scotland however should dispel any notion of 'impartiality' from that particular part of the establishment.

To claim that the BBC is left wing is like the Tea Party claiming that Obam is a Communist. it is totally absurd and goes against all the evidence but if a lie, however ridiculous, is repeated enough times, people will start believing it.
I do believe, like Hassan, that it is a calculated ploy by the right, to control the BBC.

Paul Mason is definitely very left wing, and although I do like him, there are times when he's clearly biased. It's quite probable that he's a socialist rather than a social democrat so I think it's vital that the BBC make sure that he's balanced in his reporting.

Given that I pay for a TV license, I don't want someone portraying socialist ideology as fact or making it seem acceptable. I want to keep my freedom, thanks.

What about Yes, Minister. Was that on the BBC? That certainly wasn't on when Labour where in power!

Am I being too cynical?

Dark Heart, do you want the BBC to tell the country that there IS an alternative to cuts, or simply allow opposing opinions to be aired?

If it's the latter then I've seen a lot of that on the BBC.

@ Sam & Cassandrina

No Spitting Image or Yes, Minister but they had already got tired and run out of ideas by then.

What about this though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PC0Hw91UgU ???

if anything I would say the BBC is Right Wing, most of there so called debates these days are a case of "lets avoid getting anyone left wing on and call a right winger or centerist one", thursday nights Question Time is a case in point, the supposed "Left" reps on the panel were a member of the Labour party (who anyone with even a small knowledge of politics will tell you are far from left wing) and Aaron Porter (you know, the lying, fickle twit who heads the NUS), not one of them actually stood up for the Right of Education, not one, yet they had three others (Tory, Lib Dem, Torygrapher) who were more than happy to spew neo-Liberal bullshit at us, if this is the future of our democracy, then frankly we are beyond fucked, were already dead in a ditch somewhere, just waiting to draw our final breath.

Monoramid:
You have forgotten to take your medication again!

The BBC is dependent on a flat regressive tax gathered via "license" fees. The Tories are more likely to reduce this guaranteed revenue stream, as they have already done since the election. Therefore, the BBC is more likely to oppose the Tories. As they are doing. QED.

and to 'Cassandrina', '..when Labour got in Spitting Images etc disappeared. Nuf Sed..' err no not quite enough said, Spitting Images was on ITV, are you blaming auntie (thats slang for the BBC as you are probably too ignorant to know) for ITV's scheduling decisions?

Rick Nobinson is a tory apologist?
Hahahahahahahahahahhahahaahahahhaah!

Sam, go to bed.

Sam:
Soooo.... You actually think Hitler was a Socialist?And that.. Socialism and Nazism is kind of the same thing?..... OOKKKK....Are you completely insane or just amazingly stupid? Did it ever occur to you that Hitler may have misrepresented his political ideology before he got elected and used the name Socialism to sound populist and reasonable?? In other words, he lied?
Do us all a favour Sam , go and get yourself some kind of political education, then we can talk, although i think you've lost the plot.

As somebody who watched the BBC coverage throughout the election campaign I can confirm that they were indeed biased, but they were wholeheartedly supporting the Tories, they might be all doom and gloom now but that is because of their incredible naivety during the election campaign. I was personally disgusted with their coverage, they didn't even try to disguise their bias.

I see a few commenters ridiculing Sam's contention that Hitler was a socialist. But he only quotes ... uh, Hitler himself on the matter! Danielle takes the best shot at refuting it with "Did it ever occur to you that Hitler may have misrepresented his political ideology before he got elected and used the name Socialism to sound populist and reasonable."

Well, no Danielle. "Socialist" was not regarded as particularly "reasonable" in Hitler's day -- it was regarded by the mainstream in Europe as quite subversive and radical. That Hitler was a populist is not in question. But to think that he contrived to disguise himself as a socialist in order to appear reasonable is mind-numbingly stupid.

Hitler used this language because he was a Nazi. "Nazi" is an nickname for "National Socialist". National Socialism was not invented by Hitler. It is a particular brand of Socialism in which the state is seen as a centrally organized, organic unit. Get it? "Social", as in the social organism being the central paradigm. This is the basis of all forms of socialism, that people are understood as a group, not as individuals, for the purpose of organization of society.

In many respects, the Soviet regime had a very Nazi-like approach to societal organization. And so do many modern "socialist" movements. The difference is that nazis place the state, and allegiance to the state, as a central organizing principal while the garden-variety of socialist we generally encounter are "international socialists" who would prefer world-wide socialism without national boundaries, sort of a giant uni-state.

Like socialists today, Hitler understood that the only way to win power among a population unfriendly to his ideology was to co-opt the press as a propaganda tool. Today we see the fruit of the so-called "long march of socialism through the institutions", only on of which is the mainstream media.

The accusation that the BBC is left wing in values is complete nonsense.The BBC is an establishment organisation that's sympathies are closer to Cameron and the Tories than Democratic Socialism . The rise of David Cameron had full support from the BBC which reflects an inherent bias towards privilege power and wealth .

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If the BBC is not accused of bias by both sides, then it isnt doing its job properly.
Having said that, Nick Robinson is getting rather carried away with his Oxford chums...
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