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The menace of section 127

The wider implications of the Twitter Joke Trial.

Last week Paul Chambers was unsuccessful in his appeal of his conviction under section 127 of the Communications Act 2003.

As I am his solicitor, and as I am a servant of the court and subject to professional rules of conduct, I cannot say more here about that particular appeal than is otherwise in the public domain. Paul is disappointed, and he is taking advice on whether to take the case further to the High Court.

Ben Emmerson QC, the leading human rights and criminal law barrister, has been instructed to advise on possible steps forward. Paul may make his decision later this week. In the circumstances, no one would really blame him if he were to just draw a line under the affair.

But what I can write about is section 127, and about why the increasing use of this provision by the police and Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) has such worrying implications for everyone who uses the internet, especially those who use social media.

Section 127 provides that it would be an offence (and thereby means that a person can be arrested, charged, convicted, sentenced, and obtain a criminal record) if a person sends "a message or other matter" which is "grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character" by means of a "public electronic communications network".

It is an offence which requires intention (or "mens rea" in legal jargon), though the CPS insisted for most of the Paul Chambers case that it did not. It is for the Court to determine whether the message has the sufficient grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character.

Current case law provides that the offence is committed when the message is sent, regardless of whether it was ever received and indeed regardless of whether, if received, it was actually found to be grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character. The sole arbiter of whether the message or other material is of an grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character is the Court, applying an "ordinary person" test. And if this test is met, then the Court may regard that mere intention to send a message of that character to be the mens rea.

What then constitutes a message or other material of a grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character? Well, it would appear that it is now effectively whatever the police and CPS say it is, regardless of context (including self-evident jokes and irony). This is all that would be needed for an arrest or charge. All which is then required is to get a judge to agree with them, if the defendant dares to put up a defence at risk of a higher sentence.

This uncertainty means that the offence has a worryingly low and fluid threshold. And given that the police and CPS are taking the widest possible view of what constitutes a message sent by means of a public electronic communications network (anything sent over the internet), then the potential scope of the application of this offence becomes deeply alarming.

It was not supposed to be like this. As leading telecoms lawyer and blogger Andrew Sharpe explained in May 2010, the provision in section 127 dates back to the 1930s legislation covering misuse of telephones. Its most immediate predecessor was section 43 of the Telecommunications Act 1984, which covered the "public telecommunications system".

When that provision was re-enacted in the 2003 legislation, the term "public electronic communications network" happened to be used instead. No parliamentary debate on this switch can currently be traced. There certainly seems to have been no marked legislative intention to broaden the telephone nuisance offence to be a catch-all for all electronic communications which may pass over the internet. But that is how the CPS and police are now treating it. I do not know of a single communications lawyer who is not horrified at this unexpected development.

We now have -- inadvertently, it seems -- a wide-ranging offence regarding electronic communications which can be used almost at a whim by police officers seeking easy grounds for arrest, or by the CPS wanting a convenient way to proceed with a prosecution when they cannot use other offences.

Last week, on the final day of Paul's appeal, an elected representative was arrested for an emphatic (and appropriately hashtagged) tweet in response to a disappointingly relativistic and provocative comment which had been broadcast on national radio. He was arrested under section 127. His tweet was crude and unattractive, and to his discredit, but it was simply not a matter for which someone should have been arrested.

The facts of Paul's particular case have so far dominated the discussion over section 127. However, the concerns -- indeed alarm -- which his conviction gives rise to are of far wider import.

Whether Paul takes his case to the High Court or not, we appear as a society to have reached the point where any of us can be arrested and potentially convicted just because - in effect - some official takes exception to an unwelcome electronic communication. And, if this is the case, then we have ceased to be a liberal society.

 

David Allen Green is legal correspondent of the New Statesman. He is also head of media law at Preiskel & Co LLP, who are acting for Paul Chambers.

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46 comments

Korhomme's picture

Humpty Dumpty said it first;

“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”

Tucola's picture

I consider that these uses of section 127 very much bring the criminal law into disrepute.

Although I think that it is right that there should be some kind of criminal law against making threats of bodily harm or property damage via electronic communication, including over the internet - 'menacing' communications - the difficulty is indeed the necessary mens rea for the offence. It only makes sense if the defendant subjectively intended the person at whom the threat was directed to receive the message and feel menaced.

It should not be enough that a message has been deemed to be objectively menacing and the mens rea is that the defendant intended to transmit that message (which transmission may not have been intended to include (or in fact included) transmission to the person at whom the menaces were directed).

Where an objectively menacing message is not sent to the person at whom the threat is directed, it should not be a crime unless it is sufficient to be caught by conspiracy offences (or possibly attempt).

Incidentally, as this matter has unfolded, I have had some difficulty with the Betjeman analogy, in that if taken literally it expresses a hope, whereas Chambers’ message if taken literally was a threat. I would argue that the expression of a hope is too close to thought-crime and should not be an offence in its own right (unless due to context it amounts to incitement) whereas threats in appropriate circumstances I would have thought should be. So to give an example:

“I wish someone would throw a custard pie at David Cameron when he least expects it” (no matter who sent to electronically) - should not be an offence (this in my view is like “come friendly bombs”).

“I am going to throw a custard pie at David Cameron when he least expects it” (sent electronically to persons other than David Cameron) – should not be an offence unless evidence of conspiracy to assault David Cameron (this is like Chambers’).

“I am going to throw a custard pie at you when you least expect it, David Cameron” (sent electronically to David Cameron) – should be an offence if sender intended Cameron to receive the message and feel threatened by it.

swatantra nandanwar's picture

The Judge got it spot on. This was a specific threar in time and place, and could not be ignored by any respectable authority. Thats why Paul was escorted off his workplace.
However, we should not be intimidated by general threats of terrorism, but go about our daily business without fear, because fate could strike us at any time. Its a rik that we all have to take. Otherwise the terrorist has won.

David J Mudkips's picture

Chambers' tweet was manifestly a harmless joke. Anyone who can't spot that (the appeal judge, a few commenters here) is either so dense that light bends around them, or being deliberately contrarian

Hyperbole as a linguistic form has been around as long as speech itself; But now, according to the courts, if someone might get upset, it's a criminal offence.

F**k that, says I.

You have a fundamental Human Right to free speech. There is no Human Right to not get butthurt.

LK's picture

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11784603

Thank God we don't live in China....imagine anything like that happening here.

callitjustice's picture

I would be surprised if the High Court grants the appeal as the prevalence of this type of offence has increased dramatically, and the author of this article has played a part in encouraging that. (The whole spartacus thing is misguided.)
Whilst focus has been on the appeal court (presided over by not just a judge but by 2 magistrates also) the snowball started to be formed at the police/CPS charging stage. Unfortunately, then the trial was in front of a DJ rather than 3 magistrates when a not guilty verdict would have been much more likely. The DJ said there had to be mens rea but then did not establish, beyond reasonable doubt, that there was, preferring only to say that he could not take the defendant's statements at face value. The words used were certainly menacing but the message, given its context, was not.
The conviction is unfortunate, but thankfully he has not been put in prison and will recover from it. The law needs changing and must be clear and unambiguous its its revised form. Of course we want to keep freedom of speech and the right to use humour and hyperbole. But do we want the internet to be loaded with stupid, unfunny, exaggerated 'threats' like the one Chambers made ? No we don't. http://bit.ly/a8QVUf

mattwew's picture

Where a case relies on what an 'ordinary' person might think, then ordinary people should decide - a jury.

Politically Incorrect's picture

Conservative Home Local Government published the Compton tweet story and it generated 170 comments; worth a look. As regards Chambers and Compton their tweets bear no resemblance to the overtly offensive and racist comments made by Collins; whilst not jokes as such, there is no way that either should be criminalised, as in PCs case or potentially criminalised as in GCs case; I am certain that the late and very learned Lord Bingham would have been very concerned at the role of Police and CPS in these two cases; his input would have been most interesting. Sadly two careers could be ruined PCs already and GCs potentially.My opinion is that an overtly menacing by any objective standard tweet message directed at a specific target might be a case for investigation eg a threat to harm the families of jurors engaged in deciding a high profile criminal case.I worked in regulatory enforcement we received complaints about and allegations concerning criminal activities by businesses, we used commonsense and gathered information, including reading case reports of previous prosecutions, before deciding whether or not to take any formal action. If Police/CPS had carefully read and analysed the judgement in DPP v Collins, perhaps they might not have acted so dramatically and arrested PC and GC.

qaz's picture

This case has raised much public debate, not of all it confined to Twitter. It has led to a great deal of concern regarding the scope of section 127 and the implications for freedom of speech. Whether this blogpost, the author’s tweeting and the Twitter campaigns are a helpful addition to the debate is more questionable.
It’s worth remembering that a useful debate can be had only when there are two sides to the argument. We have, on the one hand, this author’s contribution – that of the defence solicitor. It would seem sensible to conclude – from his status and from his comments before and after the event – that he is far from an impartial observer on this topic. He has described last week’s case as [and I paraphrase] lost before it began. After the hearing, he posted a link to another case by the same judge. His commentary has called into question the process and motivations of the police and the CPS (though no abuse of process point has, I understand, ever been taken in this case). The tenor of his comments – reflecting, one would assume, his liberal (with a small ‘l’) world view – is an inherent suspicion of the criminal justice system.
With that in mind, it’s worth remembering that we don’t have in this debate a view from the ‘other side’. We don’t have a blogpost explaining why the police took this case to the CPS. We don’t have a blogpost explaining the reasoning behind the decision to prosecute. We don’t have a blogpost explaining why the District Judge found Chambers guilty. We don’t have a blogpost from the much-criticised Judge Davies explaining why she dismissed the appeal. We don’t even yet have the judgement of last week’s hearing.
And this is important: respect for the criminal justice system matters. That’s not to say that the criminal justice system should be beyond scrutiny. And it’s not to say that this law may not need to be examined. After all, in a justice or legislative system reliant upon day in-day out human judgements, mistakes will no doubt be made. But it is to say that the scrutiny shouldn’t take the form solely of a one-handed social media campaign with few facts and imperfect information.
The author claims that what constitutes ‘a message or other material of a grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character’ is “effectively whatever the police and CPS say it is”. Given what he writes elsewhere in his post (including in the next sentence), I’m sure he knows that not to be the case. He suggests that the ambit of section 127 should be determined by parliamentary debates in 1930 and 1984; I’m sure he knows that this is not – legally – the determining factor (nor, indeed, should it be). He says that he does not know of a single communications lawyer who is not horrified at this unexpected development; it would be interesting to know what the body of criminal lawyers believe.
There is nothing in this case to suggest that the police, CPS or courts were doing other than what they should be doing: investigating, prosecuting and trying the guilty. Whether Chambers should be guilty of any offence is a worthy debate; but it’s a debate involving parliament – not the criminal justice system. This author, I believe, attacks the wrong target.
The author notes at the beginning of his piece that he is a solicitor, a servant of the court and subject to professional rules of conduct. Bearing that in mind, he should consider whether he is attacking the correct target and whether he is in danger of wrongly bringing the criminal justice system into disrepute.

callitjustice's picture

Very interesting comment by qaz; one of the very few balanced viewpoints that I have read; another of course is mine http://bit.ly/cUuLa9. (Actually the DJ's reasoning is available.) This case is fascinating, it might result in a change to the law, and there may well have been a conviction that could and should have been avoided but it is not the end of the world as we know it. And he did make a threat, whether or not there was any likelihood that he would carry it out. See my comment above. Life goes on.

morungos's picture

You're right in that the absence of the judgement does make assessing the decision somewhat hard. But with all respect to the criminal justice system, if it is finding guilt where essentially there should be none, that is simply wrong. It is not acceptable to say people should accept or live with their convictions. Convictions matter. It may not be the end of the world, but it is not justice.

Matt Flaherty's picture

@callitjustic, neither the author of this article nor the author of the fated tweet had any part in encouraging the #IamSparticus campaign. In fact, Paul was advised not to go near it.

A criminal conviction is able to ruin lives even without a custodial sentence. Paul has lost two jobs (the second one because a recruiter failed to communicate his status to the employer) and is still unemployed.

Yes, I'm thrilled for the Internet to contain all sorts of nonsense as it always has. You should be too. Actual threats must be dealt with. This was anything but. Had the CPS been aware they needed to prove intent they never would have pursued the conviction.

Matt Flaherty's picture

@qaz There are reams of articles about this case dating back to March. David Allen Green publishes his own blog at http://jackofkent.blogspot.com/. Before he was instructed in this case he explained it in great detail. Go have a look. He interviewed the CPS who explained why they proceeded in this manner.

Matt Flaherty's picture

Question for @qaz and @callitjustice: I wonder whether you happen to be aware that the CPS had at first thought this to be a strict liability offence? Paul was told he could only plead guilty. So not only did they believe it didn't require intent, but they believed they didn't have to prove it was menacing. Is this not worrying?

Rolo Tamasi's picture

swatantra nandanwar

A neighbour of mine (a middle aged woman and Magistrate) has just tweeted to her friends "I will cheerfully strangle my plumber when he eventually gets back from lunch".

Recognising it as a specific threat in time and place and with no time for the police to get here I ran across the road and shot her. Tradesmen can now sleep soundly.

Rolo Tamasi's picture

PS I should say, for those with a literal frame of mind, that I did not actually shoot her. I put that bit in to reassure the constituents in Bedfordshire.

callitjustice's picture

Matt, I did read that the CPS first thought the offence to be strict liability. (It doesn't actually mean that the defendant can only plead guilty; I think the definition is that the offence does not require proof of any knowledge or fault on the part of defendant; mens rea does not have to be proved.) The CPS often makes mistakes like this; to be fair, there is a great deal of criminal law and a good deal of ambiguity; but they should do their homework first. The defendant's legal representative should check too; and a magistrates' court will establish whether it is or not before a plea is taken. But, the error doesn't do much for the PR of the CPS, does it !

Nick Sharratt's picture

I believe it is a mistake to think this case is about a poor taste/unfunny "joke". The tweet was an expression of frustration employing exaggerated language as a form suitable for expressing that frustration. It was not an I'll confirmed joke intended for even a moment for anyone, even an ordinary person, to interpret litterally. Any fool who expects every public expression by every person to be factually accurate and without ambiguity should be taken out and shot (and that is intended not as a joke, but as the same exaggerated form of language to make a point, not to menace anyone - besides, someone would have to admit to being a fool to feel menaced by it, thus supporting my point)

English is a rich and complex language and for the courts to rule that some widely used and value forms of the language are now to be deemed illegal if conveyed electronically will make sending almost any novel ever written over the Internet illegal.

If someone hid a note in a crack in a wall in the middle of nowhere for his friend (followers) to find and read because they know where to look, could it possibly be confused with someone slipping a note to an airport manager containing a threat? Clearly not. In the later, there is a clear intent to convey a sense of menace and a defence of "only joking!" would rightly be dismissed. However in the former, if some random person happened on the comment and then passed it to the police, they should dismiss the busy body butting in to other peoples communications.

Paul expressed frustration in an essentially private way (despite being in a public forum - in the same way one might talk to a friend in a public square with a crowd around). It was not a joke threat, it was not a joke, it was not menacing, it should never have proceeded beyond the polices' initial checking of it.

callitjustice's picture

Matt, I wasn't trying to suggest that the author of this blog or the author of the 'fated tweet' were encouraging the spartacus campaign per se. I can see how it may have read that way and I apologise if it did.

Also, I fully appreciate that convictions (whether imprisonable or not) can ruin lives, particularly in these days of CRB checks, and I don't make light off that at all.
I wish we could live in a world of no wrongful convictions, but it is very unlikely in any criminal justice system, especially I think an adversarial one (but that is another debate).

I am not so convinced that Paul lost his job because of the conviction. I don't know. Maybe the employer has a strict policy on this. If, however, they are sensible enough to look at the nature of the conviction then they might well have thought a warning sufficient. Could it possibly be that the evidence at the trial indicated him to be using twitter in working hours ? As I say, I dont know. If the conviction alone is the cause of his dismissal then that is harsh indeed.

swatantra nandanwar's picture

Paul was rightly convicted under S127 a menacing electronic communication in the view of any ordinary man/woman seeing or receiving that message. Paul should have stuck to picking winners and losers in international football matches instaed of sending threatening messages. Its very similar to cyber bullying.
He should take it on the chin and move on.

Matt Flaherty's picture

I write the following at considerable personal risk:

@(Rolo Tamasi) Bedforshire, eh? Why don't you do the rest of us a favour and shoot Nadine Dorries. I'm not even joking.

Matt Flaherty's picture

@callitjustice Thank you for your considerate replies. I am informed that Paul lost his job in the first instance owing to the standard Gross Misconduct clause in his employment contract for bringing the company into serious disrepute. The fact that an anti-terror squad turned up at his work to cart him off may have had something to do with that. Harsh, but understandable. The second instance of losing his job was as I described it. As Paul was still in the probationary period the company were entitled to dismiss him without cause. They may have been afraid of the attention arising from his appeal.

Matt Flaherty's picture

@(swatantra nandanwar) You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Perhaps you should stick to not researching facts instead of weighing in on a subject that is over your head.

Rolo Tamasi's picture

It is well accepted that Paul was not actually threatening to bomb the airport and would have been found not guilty if he had been so charged. Instead, the justice system has grotesquely distorted itself and exposed its lack of integrity. As no one believes the joke to be a credible threat how can it be menacing? Answer - by applying a law to a purpose for which it was never designed.

If the communication had been on paper (and somehow identical in all other material ways) then there would have been no crime because s 172 could not have been (miss)used. This should tell us something.

No one intended to make anyone feel menaced and nobody felt menaced. Nothing is going to change because of this, other than one good man has randomly had his career and finances ruined. Nothing positive has been achieved, only cost and damage all round. We have less security because of this, not more.

The law has been shown to be foolish and prejudiced. It is easy to find many other tweets that are pretty much on all fours with Paul’s case and yet there are no prosecutions. On the other hand there are plenty of examples of tweets sent with clear intent to menace, which are received by people who are menaced by them (for example, Bannantyne gate) and yet the law is disinterested.

As life goes on nothing will change and society will continue to be flippant, crack jokes and find ways of using the powerful tools of our language to effectively transmit their feelings in 140 characters. Good people, law abiding people, most of us, will continue to write electronic messages that, occasionally, if taken out of context or interpreted obliquely can be argued as menacing and, from time to time, the state will make a random victim of one of us. Silly me, it wont be random, it will be someone who is challenging or attempting to scrutinise the powers that be. And there is potentially plenty to challenge, particularly in airport security.

The abuse of law by the authorities in order to assert powers they do not have has always been with us but, in the UK, there is an increasing trend.

In my view the USA environment has improved steadily over the years but we can still see a good example over there. The new radiation “porn” scanners work by dosing passengers with X-rays that, to some extent, inevitably increase the risk of cancer. Not wishing to impose this risk on the population without consent, if a passenger prefers they can have a physical pat down.

However the agency that does this has decreed that this will be an “enhanced” pat down. The enhancement being that your genitals will be closely handled (and, for women, breasts). There is no intelligence of a new threat that can be countered by feeling everyone’s genitals. If there were it would be happening everywhere. Having your genitals felt is nothing less than a punishment for exercising your rights rather than submitting to the wishes of the powers that be.

In the UK, look at the development of “attempting to pervert the course of justice” over recent years. The police have been increasingly using it to exert powers they do not have.

gordon1970's picture

If, as Matt asserts, the CPS thought this to be a liability offence and therefore there was no intent required, and no proof of menace needed, this is a dangerous precedent to set. Henceforth, anyone posting to any social networking site needs to consider very carefully what they post, as even some stray punctuation could lead to an offence unwittingly being committed.

Makes you think though, doesn't it? An angry post sent to a spouse/family member over an open site (i.e. unprotected tweets) could lead to criminal proceedings, a criminal record, a substantial financial penalty and any number of other, unforeseen implications.

This law MUST be challenged before many more needless prosecutions are brought before an already overextended court system and more otherwise lawabiding people end up stigmatised with an undeserved record.

Matt Flaherty's picture

@gordon1970 The CPS have now accepted that mens rea (guilty intent) is required, but only because they have been forced to concede this point. The precedent of DPP v Collins requires it. They evidently didn't know about it at the time, but argued its precedent didn't apply because the ruling was on a grossly offensive message rather than a menacing one. The magistrates court judge was having none of that.

But make no mistake, this is a very dangerous ruling. It is not even necessary for a message to be received if it is couched in terms likely to cause offence, menace, etc. In theory I could send a "menacing" message to myself from one mobile phone to another and I've committed a crime.

Rolo Tamasi's picture

Can anyone help me with the definition of menacing as applied by UK courts?

I’m particularly interested in the application of the definition to the theoretical third party “ordinary person”. Do they need to feel that there is a risk of harm to themselves or just that there appears to be threat of harm to someone else who is unknown?

To illustrate the point, consider communications between participants in online multi-player shooter games seen by someone who does not appreciate the context.

We may have to build more courts.

Phil's picture

Three decades ago in a country far far away (and down under) we laughed ourselves silly at the corniness of
Kingswood Country and its lead bigot Ted Bullpit, whose favourite quip (of many racist & tasteless) was "Somebody/someone should blow [current object of annoyance] up!"

Keenly anticipate cast & crew crammed into court, along with CEOs of those arranging re-runs.

Rolo Tamasi's picture

No, Im not in Beds, just trying to comply with the established etiquette.

BTW I think the blog and twitter accounts of the person you refer to are a hoax. The pictures are nothing like the MP.

@ennovate's picture

"Anyone in this country in the present climate of terrorist threats, especially at airports, could not be unaware of the possible consequences."

It worries me when judges use words like this. If society has to lose any civil rights/liberties because of "... the present climate of terrorist threats ..." then we may as well offer ourselves up to the terrorists, because they've already won.

Only a complete idiot would believe that this particulary stupid tweet, admittedly in poor taste, was a genuine threat or even slightly menacing. If it were, the tweeter would be particularly ineffective giving, as he did, the authorities a week and a bit to trace and arrest him.

It's time we stopped surrendering to terrorism by allowing it to control our every word, deed or inappropriate comment.

Anon's picture

Amid all the hullabaloo and hyperbole that has accompanied this case, the fact remains, Paul should not have sent that tweet. I was'nt surprised by the outcome of the appeal. What is surprising is that a respected liberal lawyer and blogger has decided along with the rest of the blogosphere to make this into some kind of cause celebre.

The bandwagon that was #iamspartacus, became tiresome and cliched by Friday. I for one would'nt have contemplated sending a tweet that made reference to blowing up a specific target. Not funny and No joke in this day and age. Furthermore to use the excuse that it was just a joke is like the excuse the kid in the playground would use.

Freedom of speech is the basis of our democracy but incitement to terrorism or murder is for the courts to decide whether they are funny or not. This case has been prejudiced now and would surely affect any High Court appeal. My advice to Mr Chambers after the original verdict would have been take your medicine and accept the times we live in.

Phil's picture

Probably not an original thought, but who's for an international Twitter disobedience day where all tweet a threat to some one/org/place?

Bit like the anti TSA grope day.

PS: dibs on not tweeting first.

Phil's picture

PPS: Inspired by Rolo & Matt.

MikeHypercube's picture

Yes Anon, but here's the thing: the message was either a joke or it was not. If it was not a joke, it had the unlikely effect of offering to blow up, a week and a bit later, a deserted airport which would by then have been closed for a week and a bit. Also if it was not a joke, there was a week and a bit to find and prevent him. Alternatively, it was a joke and nothing more. Those are your options. As DAG points out, the effect of this "perfect storm" of unintended legal features, is that any one person in authority (not incidentally the authorities at the airport itself, in fairness to them), can decide something is simply /not/ /funny/ at which point it can be prosecuted under Section 127.

Now that's not funny.

CBrenchley's picture

I am not surprised that the reply here is from someone who does not have the courage to stand by their words. Bad law and bad application of law fundamentally undermines the rule of law, and it's support from the people who agree to be governed by it. As a layman I certainly have less respect for the Judicial system than ever before.
The fact that the #IamSpartacus 'campaign' became tiresome and cliché by the following day WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF IT.
Your advice to Paul is extremely unfortunate for everyone, in that it would set a precedent for everyone involved in any form of social media. Fortunately, the Twitter has an inherent sense of Justice and how common sense should be applied to it. We will not stand for this nonsense and we will not shut up and 'take our medicine' like the sheep you wish us to be.

Patatronic's picture

"Freedom of speech is the basis of our democracy but incitement to terrorism or murder is for the courts to decide whether they are funny or not."

You have reduced the courts to experts in humour, but have not suggested reducing their power accordingly. This is a worry.

Furthermore, we define "the times we live in". These "times" are not an uncontrollable force of nature, but the natural outcome of our collective actions and opinions. To blindly accept them is to shirk our responsibility to shape them.

Yvonne's picture

Perhaps there is a fundamental problem with s.127 which also affects other legislation in that legislators are seeking to apply to electronic communication laws that were designed for older modes of communication. Rather than just adapting existing legislation to cover that by electronic means it would be better to have a wholesale review of all the implications of current day communications systems and to have new legislation based on that.
The whole are of intellectual property rights seems to be crying out for such legislation too.

Matt Flaherty's picture

David, if you read some of the other comments made later by this person you will see that this is not so. Any suggestion that you encouraged #IAmSparticus was accidental and the person has apologized. The person has also provided links to his or her blog.

Steve Jones's picture

@anon

"Should not have sent that Tweet"? Well, from a personal perspective, I'm sure he might feel that given the results. However, it's no part of the law to legislate on bad taste jokes in my view, and this was never more than that.

However, but even if we take the "never should have" bit, then it's would be a person unusually resistent to fallibility, who had not at some time done a few things which they regret. Generally speaking, the consequences don't involve the sledgehammer of the law for something that was of no substantive harm to anybody.

However, the simple truth is that for the vast majority this was not, and never woudl have been seen as a menacing message. Indeed the judge could only postulate a particularly nervous and unadventurous first-flyer couple who might have felt alarmed in the extremely unlikely event that they would have stummbled over a message between a few friends.

The act was directed to those who were deliuberately engaged in a campaign of menacing, not badly-drafted jokes taken out of context.

The "civil disobedience" campaign of IamSpartacus was simply pointing out the absurdity. David Allen Green tried the same approach by encouraging tweeting on Betjamen's wish to rain bombs on my home town.

It's a nonsense, and it has served to undermine the credibility of law and, given that I saw a jokey reference to shooting members of the Royal Family on CharonQC's blog comments, will have zero affect on the vast majority until the next unfortunate gets picked upon because some idiot in the CPS has too much time on his hands.

Chris's picture

"Not funny and No joke in this day and age"

And thus the terrorists have won.

@adambanksdotcom's picture

@callitjustice I would agree that your comments are thoughtful and expressed with moderation, which is very welcome. I'm not so sure about "balanced".

Giving equal weight and respect to two sides of an argument is balanced only if both positions are of equal merit on their faces. I don't think that's the case here.

We have, in this country, an assumption - for better or worse, unwritten - of free speech. Anyone may say whatever they want, in any medium, without fear of retribution from the state, except in certain very narrowly defined circumstances where their speech is seen to cause harm. Even utterances that may be highly controversial, offensive or distressing are not automatically prohibited. This is considered an important and fundamental right.

Relying on this right, it is commonplace in our society for both professional comedians and members of the public to "tell jokes", or make off-the-cuff remarks containing some form of humour or irony, about every one of the most sensitive and potentially distressing issues in life. The most popular topics are sex, death, politics and religion. Fun is poked at our most deeply felt beliefs, hopes and fears. It's what we do.

It is of the utmost importance to recognise that what Paul Chambers said was not only within the boundaries of this normal discourse but a country mile within. It was said among friends on Twitter, never "to" anyone involved with the airport. There is no excuse for anyone who lives in our society and understands its norms to consider it potentially criminal. To bring it to the attention of the courts, without also referring a million other communications every hour, is arbitrary and irrational.

It must further be appreciated that when the judge remarked that an "ordinary person" "would have" considered Paul's utterance "menacing", she was expressing what can only be described as an opinion. Not one piece of evidence has ever been produced to show that any person at any time *was* alarmed or distressed. The member of security staff who, by chance, saw the original tweet did not believe it was a serious threat. The police did not believe it was a serious threat. It was a week before any action was taken at all.

The notion that this "could have" been a real threat to bomb the airport or "would have" been interpreted as such is redundant. We have no need to speculate about it, because we have the facts. It was not taken as a threat.

That is why the CPS could not charge Paul with any of the offences that would normally apply either to a bomb hoax or an actual threat of violence.

The balanced view is that the criminal law should only be applied where there has been wrongdoing. There was none in this case.

The balanced view is that Paul should not have been charged.

Alan Harrison's picture

@(Rolo Tamasi) Fucking brilliant post! If, as we found in this trial/appeal, the sending is the offence, not the receiving, and menace needs only to be determined by an ordinary person test in the courts, not actually perceived by real people, then it's all up for grabs now! Love the online gaming scenario, hadn't thought of that! Better start building those courts.

morungos's picture

The "ordinary person" test is an important point. The question is: which ordinary person? It is always possible to construct an ordinary person from a different context who could see menace -- that is the point of the concern over misuse of section 127. The reality is, many people saw the tweet and saw no menace. The police saw no menace. Constructing a post hoc ordinary person who might see menace is truly worrying.

Let me take this further. I am an atheist, and do freely comment that I find elements of religiously-based laws inappropriate. If an ordinary person who is strongly religious saw those messages, they could legitimately find them menacing to their way of life. Would this make my comments menacing? Possibly yes -- this could now make me a criminal for posting those messages, if a judge or the CPS decided they could select the characteristics they wanted in their ordinary person.

For this assessment to work, the ordinary person needs to be seen as in the context of the person sending the message, not in the context of an imagined very different recipient who might be offended. Did the sender match against an ordinary person in the circumstances? The case needs to be proven that they did not, and I have not heard reports of evidence which convinced me the message was out of line with other ordinary people. Ordinary people do joke, and many ordinary people -- myself included -- would not be offended by a joke at the expense of an English airport's inability to accommodate inclement weather.

Rolo Tamasi's picture

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Can you explain why you feel that an increase in an activity would cause any court to change its view that the activity was legal?

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