i noticed how the coward anton did not answer my post, so i will repeat it again.where are all you uaf jokers when brown muslim racists are preaching hatred against non muslims of all faiths,calling jews monkeys and pigs,calling for homosexuals to be murdered and thrown off cliffs,preaching seperatism and demonising non muslims as dirtty kaffirs and filth,does that remind you of something=nazi germany....go watch last nights panorama on bbc 1 anton you ignorant moron and educate your small little brain about the fascist islamic threat we have on are doorsteps now you uaf joker

Anton,
Why do you ignore the great harms caused to Asia and Africa by the brain drain to Britaim of their elite doctors and engineers teachers nurses etc ?

To Arthur Williamson.

RACIST!!!

Smash the BNP!!!

Anton
Its negative attitudes like yours that has brought this country to its knee's.I suggest you take off your rose tinted glasses and think of something a bit more productive than ''Racist or Smash the bnp'' you sound almost racist yourself.

SMASH THE COMMIES

COMMIE SCUM OFF OUR STREETS

NEVER AGAIN GULAGS

We could send the immigrants to fight the North Koreans and thus kill two birds with one stone!

Anton, My father was a decorated Korean war veteran, he said he put 20 of your lot on the slab. After I joined the BNP I said I would buy him a pint for every one. Which I did with great pleasure. So you see Anton it's a family tradition to fight communism

To Anton and anyone else who may have came to a similar conclusion.

I spent 18 months of my life courting a black lady with Caribean background. I am not, never have been and never will be, racist in any shape or form. I am a british citizen proud of the fact the UK is a tolerant multi-cultural society.

My article was a reflection about "issues of concern" in this day and age, and I was speaking from my own personal experience. According to Mr Cruddas article, 38% of voters in this year`s general election had concerns about immigration, does that mean 38% are racist, I don`t think so.

In my initial post, I would however like to apologise for my second last paragraph because I think I am guilty of a lack of clarity. When I talked about immigrants being "in their own home", I was referring to immigrants being in their own UK house. When I referred to immigrants being "in their own community", I was referring to immigrants being in their own UK community e.g. there are a couple of churches in my area, one of which is hired every Sunday evening by a Russian Church, the other is hired by an Afican church, in those environments I strongly advocate the Russians and Africans speaking their mother tongue and practising their mother culture.

I strongly commend Mr Cruddas for having the courage to write a very thought-provoking article about a very delicate subject. I just hope the comments/opinions lead to a productive discussion rather than a destructive argument.

Population is a problem you folks on the other side of the pond will need to face. You've deindustrialised more brutally than we have. You've stamped down hard on your agriculture. You no longer even try to produce enough jobs for your population (nor do you even really pretend too). Taking in more people? How can you take care of what you've got? Clegg et al what to do to you guys what the Tea Party wants to do to us. Your population is going to be driven down by the Torries, and driven hard.

How can taking people on to a ship, that you know the captain plans to sink, be an act of kindness? Keep the immigrants away, for their own sakes! Show them the mercy you deny yourselves!

We are often told by many liberal/left wing commentators that cultural and racial diversity has made an immensely positive contribution to life in the UK. The late Robin Cook spoke of how chicken tikka masala has become the nation dish of Britain; Tony Benn said the fact that some 20% of schoolchildren coming from ethnic minority backgrounds provide ‘a wonderful snapshot of multicultural Britain’.
However what about the politics of race and multiculturalism? Nowadays freedom of speech is curtailed for the sake of ‘multicultural harmony’ under the fascist restriction of political correctness. This has undermined British identity in many ways including those labour controlled councils of Hounslow and Lewisham who refuse to fly the Union Jack from their council buildings on the charge that the union jack is ‘socially divisive’. The very British feature of humour has also been undermined. For instance do we see Bernard Manning, Alf Garnett or Jim Davidson on TV anymore? These comics have been replaced by the less inspiring left –wing personalities such as Marcus Bridgstock, Jonathon Ross, Jo Brand and Frank Skinner who will dare offend no one -other than white heterosexual right wing males!
We are told by politicians of the economic benefits of mass immigration to the UK. Indeed it is true that mass immigration has provided a cheap supply of labour to businesses, which has kept prices and inflation low and has helped employers to fill positions where apparently British workers have not had adequate skills to fulfil the role.
However, the cheap supply of labour provided by mass immigration has kept the minimum wage low, helping to sustain higher profits for employers but thereby making the gap between high and low income earners more profound and kept the lowest income earners in a cycle of poverty. The ability of employers to recruit skilled workers from abroad has robbed British workers of the opportunity to be trained to have the skills to undertake certain employment.
In housing the Labour Government has failed to build enough council houses meaning that the supply of housing has been inadequate to meet the need of the settled population to the extent where there are some 1.6 million people waiting for council accommodation. This problem is of course exacerbated by mass immigration where newcomers often seek cheap private and council housing.
The way that attitudes to assimilation into UK life for immigrants has been mismanaged. Indeed look at areas of Luton, Bradford, Birmingham and East London where immigrant communities have transformed the area to match their way of life to the country from which they came. It seems that there is too much emphasis from immigrants on the country from which they are from –and not the one they are in! It has got to the point where a recent opinion poll found that 40% of all Muslims in the UK want to live under Sharia Law, which is in effect holding the established laws of the UK in contempt.
In conclusion, I feel that the Labour obsession with mass immigration and diversity has helped to undermine both our democracy, the British way of life, the economic standing of the working classes and our cohesion as a society. It is for these reasons that I protest by supporting the BNP!

Anton said
"To Arthur Williamson.
RACIST!!!
Smash the BNP!!!"

And they call the BNP knuckledraggers. Anton, it is no longer enough to use gagging techniques like calling anyone who you disagree with a racist or fascist anymore kindly specify what it is that you don't agree with (if you are able)

Don't listen to these people Anton especially that bloke Lou who goes around pretending he's one of the black and white minstrels.

Congratulations Anton on returning this debate to dualistic posturing. There was nothing remotely racist in Arthur's post.

The Left should care about ALL people. Let's be honest our immigration policy is driven by the demands of big business for cheap labour. Just you watch the Tories 'go soft' on immigration now they're under pressure from the CBI et al.

Burying our heads in the sand about the problems caused by immigration will not do anything to serve the immigrants Anton postures that he cares about. If the political establishment do not address this issue our immigrant communities could be left to face the hate gangs of the BNP.

Having lived and worked abroad I believe Britain has a comparatively strong record on providing for the rights of immigrants. Having worked in Spain I can tell you that locals there barely hide their prejudices about immigrants. I regualirly listened to classes of well-educated middle class professionals describing Chinese people as 'animals'. Black people barely got a mention such was the general disdain held towards them. In Poland I listened to a mountain of hypocrisy about Belarusian / Ukrainian workers sleeping 8 to a room and undercutting Polish worker's wages. The very same things Polish workers do here!

Many British workers with families and mortgages cannot up sticks to find work in a more lucrative economy. And nor should they - we live in the fifth richest country in the world!!

Collectively, across Europe and beyond we should be addressing why our economies cannot provide full, stable, decently paid employment. As it stands we are faced with the sad old story of ordinary people from different cultures turning on each other while the rich profit from their misery.

Living out of the UK I'm not sure what people object to when the BNP is mentioned. Am I missing something?

Good to see people saying it like it is. Immigration has completely changed the character of the country, and the rest of the civilised world is laughing at us. The only people immigration has benefited are the businesses who've had willing workers willing to accept subsistence wages, and the middle classes who can hire a nanny, cleaner, etc for a pittance. For the white working class, however, immigrants have done untold damage to our way of life and our economic standing. We're expected to compete with these foreigners, but the foreigners are already working for such a low wage that getting into such a competition would mean we can't afford to support our families, and able to keep up with our bills and other costs of living. What a ridiculous situation this is, where a country as great and as rich as ours still needs the white working class, the people whose toil and sweat made the industrial revolution possible, to accept subsistence wages and live a life where they can barely afford basic needs.

The only way for the white working class to regain their dignity, and for the political class to show they are truly sorry for the subjugation the WWC have been subjected to, is to put through a policy of compulsory repatriation of all immigrants of non Anglo-Saxon stock. Only then will I accept that our voice is being listened to. However, only one party, and that's the BNP, is speaking up for us.

We all need to address the reality of life in Britain...

We all know that gangs of BNP thugs are physically attacking people in the street every day of the week. That cannot be tolerated or appeased.

Appeasment doesn't work. We must confront and face down the BNP wherever they appear. Look at the UAF website to see how many unions and politicians of all colours concur.

You can sit on your asses all you want. The UAF and myself don't believe we can afford to do that.

WHOSE STREETS? OUR STREETS!!
SMASH THE BNP!
NEVER AGAIN!
SAY NO TO NAZIS!

Anton

The problem is not immigration it is the near million or so failed and unproductive asylum seekers taking us for a ride.

uaf are a bunch of communist tossers who appease radical fascist islam,where are you anton and these uaf creeps when the muslims are preaching the anti semtism,racism and homophobia.where are all you clowns demonstrating against these muslim nazis,yes nowhere to be seen,the uaf are a bloody joke and a bunch of little middle class college boys who could not fight your way out of a paper bag,just a laughing stock.

In America, the part of the immigration debate no one Left or Right deals with is that benefits and costs aren't evenly spread. The richest ten per cent get almost all the benefits of immigration, and the costs are a burden to the eighty percent on the bottom of the ecconomy. In America and Britain, we need programs to send the costs to those who get the benefits. Only those who benefit from immigration should bare the costs.

Anton said
"We all know that gangs of BNP thugs are physically attacking people in the street every day of the week. That cannot be tolerated or appeased."
You are a liar Anton (or brainwashed) I wonder do you believe everything the uaf tell you without question? Mind you we all know how marxists deal with dissenters (bish bosh bash). The only thing worse than a fascist is a communist. "socialists are just fascists pretending to be nice" Winston Churchill

Bob,

The Nazis would drive millions back into modern day gas chambers even though they dress in suits these days.

Multi-cultural Britain is a rich and wholly positive thing. These people are out to destroy it an MUST be stopped.

Exactly, what don't you understand.

The glaringly obvious flaw with Cruddas' piece is the predictable,
pavlovian response from its own leadership, ingrained party instincts, activist supporters, extreme left and union support base, and its self-inflicted, irrational, "antifascist" nutters.
Cruddas may well be attempting to appear rational, (which he is not, he's a phoney bastard) but he is pissing into the wind with this approach.
He will be accused (again) of pandering to the BNP etc, and even of being a racist himself.

Stop with the weasel words Cruddas, immigration has ruined this country, undercut wages, resulted in extreme unemployment for British workers, and resulted in race to the bottom with respect to labour conditions, wages, housing etc. And all you can do is claim that "we've let the white working class down". Has it only just registered with you? This country is swamped with foreigners, and it's only benefiting the class enemy. The Unions and the left are sell outs. I cannot believe that the unions have not criticised immigrants and immigration for ruining the lives of so many white, working class workers, the type of people unions are supposed to represent. What a betrayal.

BNP are not nazis, they even have a jewish councillor Pat Richardson. But while we are on the subject of nazis (NAtional soZIalist) lets look at the communists as well. soviets had concentration camps until Gorbachev closed them in the 1990's.(see Yuri Bezmenov KGB defector on youtube) According to conservative estimates 34 million soviet citizens were in them. Of course commies will deny they even existed. The list of communist dictators is too numerous to list. Their crimes too horrendous. This list includes Hitler who was left wing (national socialist).

Anton said "Multi-cultural Britain is a rich and wholly positive thing. These people are out to destroy it an MUST be stopped."
Not according to Angela Merkel "multiculturalism has failed"

First Ed Balls, now Cruddas. Apparently Labour have finally realised how much damage the immigrants have done to this country. The chickens are coming home to roost. Before the immigrants were placed on a pedestal and praise was showered upon them by the liberal elite. Now, Labour have realised how much damage they have done to the people they're supposed to represent, the white, working class. The realisation was too late, which explains why they got trashed in the election, but if Labour change, and look after the interests of the people they are meant to support (the WHITE working class), then I may be persuaded to vote for them again. Otherwise, you can forget it Cruddas.