Michael Gove attacks the BBC
Education Secretary uses interview on Today programme to imply that the BBC’s coverage is biased.
By Samira Shackle Published 19 July 2010 13:23
They say attack is the best form of defence. It's obviously a mantra that was at the forefront of Michael Gove's mind on this morning's Today programme. In an interview with Sarah Montague, focused mainly on the speed with which the academies programme is being swept through, the Education Secretary took more than a few sideswipes at the BBC.
He started off slowly:
It's understandable also that the Today programme and the Labour Party and others should be obsessed with "processology" . . .
What is striking is that in the course of today [speaking over Sarah Montague] the BBC have not looked at the benefits that academies have brought the very poorest children.
He builds to attacking the interviewer:
MG: It's very revealing of your mindset, Sarah, that you believe that local authorities are the only way to improve schools.
SM [speaking over]: That is not my mindset.
He gets more explicit as his (repeated) errors on the Building Schools for the Future project are flagged up:
One of the striking things about the Building Schools for the Future project -- again, I don't think reported properly by the BBC -- is the way in which it, for example, when a school was being rebuilt, specified in absurd detail the size of cycle rack or the types of plants.
Once he's found a theme, he runs with it:
I thought it was important that we had some facts in the interview, and I thought it was important that we pointed out -- as the BBC has failed to do -- that in a normal construction project . . . [initial costs are lower].
And -- building to a final crescendo:
I believe in value for money. It is maybe a concept that was alien to the last government and it may not be a concept that the BBC would like to see applied to public expenditure, but I believe that it is important that the taxpayer gets protection for the money that it spent on his or her behalf.
He spent so long going on the offensive that he neglected to mount much defence of the academies policy itself (except to say that "It was in our manifesto, so there's no need for proper scrutiny now"). But it is entirely possible that that was the plan.
Gove's line fits neatly with the Conservative narrative that the BBC is biased in favour of the left (an idea that my colleague Mehdi Hasan has argued against). The conflation of "the Today programme" and "the Labour Party" is an example of this victim mentality.
It is quite a clever technique to portray anything that challenges your view as evidence of bias (even if it is just that: a question). But Gove's churlish manner will not have done him any favours. That final -- rather spiteful -- remark is just the latest hint that the BBC is next in line for some painful cuts.
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The BBC is the enemy of freedom, a middle class gravy train and, yes, very biased. Because of the BBC, our homes can be invaded by officials checking to see if there is a TV in the property, people (the poor) can be sent to prison for watching TV if they haven't paid the highly regressive TV licence. What do we get in return for our licience fee and this abuse of State power? basically, nothing that the commercial channels don't already provide. The vast majority of the BBC's output is not public service broadcasting - it is tat that is more than amply catered for by commercial boardcasters. The sooner the BBC is privatised the better for all concerned.
Revolutionary Times call for Revolutionary Measures. Abolish this Soviet style State Broadcaster, or at the very least sell it off to the highest bidder.
I would hazzard a guess that most people in this country feel offence at having to pay for the "privilege" of having Labour approved propaganda piped in to their front rooms on a daily business, get rid of this outdated, arrogant anti democratic insitution.
You must be joking, and put up with even more wall to wall advertising?
Its a relieve to get away from he commercialism of Sky and ITV. The BBC is an oasis of calm and sense in a media world of soap.
If Sky are indeed the only news outlet left thats "unbiased" then we're in huge trouble.
Every time Gove opens his mouth to attack the BBC whoever is interviewing him should remind listeners/viewers that along with being an MP, Gove is also an employee of the The Times which is ownded by Rupert Murdoch.
His attacks on the BBC have less to do with him being a Tory and more to do with the simple fact that he is a Murdoch stooge and is thus always about his master's business.
swatantra nandanwar, BBC employee perchance ?!
Or, I suppose the word "apparatchik" is a more appropriate word than "employee" when referring to The BBC / New Labour ( same organisation if you want my opinion )
Abolish it / them!
michael gove should tune into sky news to experience real bias. Oh how i laughed when michael [lizard-like] boulton almost had a heart attack, during the election, trying to defend the tories, but alas, totally outclassed by alistair campbell.
michael gove showed himself to be a complete a*se
I'm not sure the BBC would like value for money applied to its 'pubic expenditure'.
Quick, get the Tippex!
He believes in value for money but doesn't get that if you want to cost something you need to be specific.
Hopefully the BBC will get a very painful cut, just where it hurts. Personally, I'd like to see them closed down, they are a pathetic organisation, always have been, and always will be.
Could 'Stan Pomeray' explain or substantiate his trolling? Does his IP address resolve back to somewhere in the Wapping area?
The BBC also has aliens, darleks and cybermen...! Every Saturday night they appear in a special slot! Horrible!!
Well it's knock Auntie time, is it? I don't like paying the licence fee but on the whole you do get pretty good value for money, and the overseas broadcasts are highly valued in places where there are despicable regimes. The BBC is also good way to promote Britain, for those who think, of course, that such activities are worth doing.
allo allo Jonathan and kylie. Goodbye the bbc license and the claims of their contacts that there were nuclear weapons in Iraq.
If you want to live like a private barons company, don't expect people to pay you as a gateway to other channels.
It was actually, the very day that the end of BSF was announced and several times thereafter. But it's easier to skew the debate towards ground already covered and accuse the BBC of bias then it is to answer direct questions about your poorly planned and poorly implemented policy.
Gove can't even produce two typed pages of A4 without errors. A disgrace.
My last comment was in realtion to the size of bike racks and types of plants comment
Promote Britain ?!
Are you having a bubble bath ?!
If you said Promote Islam, denounce / attack Christianity then I wouldnt bat an eyelid.
The BBC despises everything about Britain.
Gove really is a loathsome little turd. It doesn't matter what he thinks of the BBC; he is there to answer questions not to attack the interviewer. This is not the first time he has done this. He took exactly the same approach when interviewed by Humphries prior to the election regarding his laughable and poorly considered plans for schools. If he's so sure his ideas are good, he shouldn't have any problem constructing an eloquent and persuasive argument to support them. The fact he doesn't means he (like the rest of this stupid government) is making it up as he goes along.
I am worried that we are heading down the same road as the US where any point of view that isn't idiotic right wing dogma is dismissed as communism or an attack on freedom. The BBC may lean slightly to the left but, considering every other media source seems to have extreme right wing agendas, I don't think this is a bad thing. I am also glad that people with right wing views have to pay for it either. After all, I am paying for the excesses of free market econmics out of my taxes, pension, salary, children's future etc. so it's the least they can do for me.
They could start with Sarah Montague. She's hopeless. But this hard done by act of the Tories is just a blind for kicking the hell out of the Beeb on behalf of Rupert and paving the way for Fox UK. I'm with Mehdi on BBC bias - it is completely pro-establishment but maybe the Tories have been so hurt by their years in opposition they cannot see it is as impartial as any parrot.
Michael Gove is absolutely fantastic, an archetypal "Tory"
When I think about how much his mere physical appearance offends Left Wing people, it makes me like him even more.
Death to The BBC, Michael Gove for PM!
It's not his appearance that offends the left, Steve. Let's face it, parliament isn't somewhere you go to see the beautiful people. What offends me is his demeanor and his half baked ideas. I am astonished at some of the crackpot schemes coming out of the government. And they say lefties are idealistic. This may be true but at least we are also realistic.
By the way, you'll soon lament the loss of the BBC when all there is to listen to or watch are imbeciles like Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity. Be too late then.
Rick you've said it all,the B.B.C.is one of the best things ever to have come out of Britain.Anyone who has spent a lot of time living outside of the U.K.,as I have, knows this to be true.
Michael Gove's main argument is that our education system produces semi-illiterate morons who are unable to string two sentences together to make a coherent argument, think intelligently, rationally, discriminate, avoid making judgements based on prejudice and inability to thoroughly scrutinise source material.
Now read a few of the tory ranters on these posts and you get to think that Gove may have a point...
They just want to privatise the BBC like everything else! Free schools, hospitals out of state control.... Do you see a pattern emerging!
The BBC is the world's best broadcasting organisation - as anyone who has tried to watch/listen to offerings from other parts of the world can testify. The Tories would do well to understand that a large number of their supporters are die-hard fans of the BBC too. BBC news is not biased and Gove has only made an idiot of himself with his hamfisted attacks this morning.
The BBC is the world's best broadcasting organisation - as anyone who has tried to watch/listen to offering from other parts of the world. The Tories would do well to understand that a large number of their supporters are die-hard fans of the BBC too. BBC news is not biased and Gove has only made an idiot of himself with his hamfisted attacks this morning.
Typical of Conservatives.. can smell Rupert Murdoch all over it. If he wants to talk about value for money he should ask rupert murdoch .... charging £1.00 for reading the newspaper online....They will soon be taxing us to breath!!!
Michael Gove is not fit for the position he holds. His use of a word that does not exist - processology - is shameful for a so called education minister. I find that more troubling than any purported bias of the BBC as well as his failure five times to produce an accurate report on what schools will be getting funded and what ones' won't. If he was in any other business, he would have been dismissed for such ineptitude
As for the BBC being biased, well the day he criticises Sky for it's bias towards the Conservatives, I might be prepared to listen to his point about the Beeb but I would still disagree with him completely that it is biased.
Rick, are you personally offended my Michael Gove ? or are you personally offended by Michael Gove because The BBC has anointed him as "Public Enemy No. 1" / That evil Tory that wants to eat our children ??
That sounds suspiciously like "Propaganda" to me.
As for Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity ? people should have the choice, no ?
Times have changed & The BBC has forfeited the right to be publically funded, the public shouldnt have to fund pro Islamic propaganda, the obligatory 30 minutes of "Tory Bashing" on every episode of Question Time in living memory, etc etc etc.
Please tell me for any of those that are defending The BBC, why should the Public fund this body which has clearly failed in its duty bound charter to be "Impartial" ?
These are Revolutionary times, privatise it or abolish it, simple as that.
I wonder if there are a lot of right wingnuts who suddenly appear on a left leaning forum or if it's just one saddo with too much time on his hands?
I wish!
I wouldn't let the Paxos Dimblebies and the Humphries hear the word 'apparachicks' if I were you. They'd explode with rage.
Fair enough Swatantra, a worthy riposte!
Gove is a silly little man who botched his one big announcement he couldnt even get the scraapping of schools done right so of he goes on an "attck the beeb" move which given how easy the tories have had from the bbc so far is a little odd.
No searching questions that ive seen just ohh yes thats a good idea type interviews on many programmes,perhaps now with these silly attacks the BBC will wake up and smell whats coming privitsation
Philip Hammond on Any Questions, Zac Goldsmith on C4 News, Gove on Today all making accusations of bias. Only Sky are unbiased. Is it a strategy? The reactionaries on Conservative Home are saliviating over the attacks. WE are getting very sick politics. Shock and awe policies slammed through parliament with shrikes of bias when anything is questioned. How did they keep the rottwielers under control before the election. The truly nasty party.
Attacking the media to hide his incompetence's and still attempting to con the people ,by suggesting that running down state education in favour of charitable institutes , is nothing new coming for a Coalition Government, which now believes that students should pay tax after graduation ,as well as paying off loan debts .
That will not make the country better off , it will make it worse of , for Higher Education students , who now have to struggle for jobs in a receding full time jobs market .
Michael Gove is an over paid incompetent and morally corrupt individual who expects that while the country suffers he can keep on living of , comfortably off the tax payer .l
Gove is spot on. The BBC is a festering cesspit of lefties and other vermin. Scrap the TV tax and let the prats get REAL jobs not paid for by the tax payer
I'm just wondering if Michael Gove collected any appearence fees when he regularly used to appear to the Late Review. If so would this an example of wasteful spending?
As for the Soviet State broadcasting comments, I suppose some of you think Fox is truly fair and balanced. At the end of the day bias is in the eye of the beholder.
The BBC is the finest broadcasting service in the world but it is not private,so it will have to go. It wil be replaced by a Murdochlike service totally biased in favour of the Right. Another piece of our democratic process to be axed.
I have had my breath taxed by the bbc! Elements of the bbc are liars, cheats, they pay LOADS of licence fee payers money to stars and journalists like Kirsty Wark and then accept that we don't get to hear what we paid for.
Robbie Williams fans they are, they had as much to do with starting the war in iraq as the army, they have been bugging my life, and I hate them. Every time I watch their "special connections" on the news, iraq and the nuclear bomb accusations was the first mistake and they've just broadcast another letter "from the Taliban press secretary" I now wonder how many people will die as a result. World pain in the a***e is more like it, because they most certainly have not been providing a service. I HAVE BEEN PROVIDING THEM WITH A SERVICE and they have been refusing to admit it or pay! So BYE BYE. Which would you have preferred to keep? Robbie Williams or the world trade centre, or Madonna and the cutty sark?
Look forward to the day they get charged for perverting the course of justice! Criminals!
"Could 'Stan Pomeray' explain or substantiate his trolling? Does his IP address resolve back to somewhere in the Wapping area?"
Bexley, actually. And here's a piece of advice for you - just because someone holds a different opinion to you, that doesn't necessarily mean it constitutes "trolling".
Some people learn that others may have differing views when they move up to "big school". You obvious got kept back a year or seven.....
So can I "explain" my comments? Yes - I said them because I genuinely believe them.
I'm sorry if thats a shock for you.
I'm even more amazed that someone simply stating a view point causes you such a degree of trauma.
No, go and get on with your homework "little man".
Reasons to be grateful for the BBC, World news, Current Affairs....The Daily Politics, The Politics Show, The AM show, QT, This Week, Radio 2, 3 and 4, BBC4,The World Service. The Proms, millions raised for charity through regular telethons, Wildlife documentaries and Rural affairs programming,Consumer advice programmes,many high quality dramas by leading writers past and present....
Now reasons to be grateful for Sky and Virgin media? Er....erm.....I'll think of something in a minute.....The Adam Boulton show?
I rest my case.
Gove obviously has no experience of procurement. He says, "when a school was being rebuilt, [BSF] specified in absurd detail the size of cycle rack or the types of plants."
If you don't specify things in great detail, you get shafted by the suppliers. If, for example, you don't specify the types of plants, the supplier can plausibly argue that fathen, stinging nettles and other weeds are indeed plants that fulfil the contract. More likely, it would supply whatever new plants were cheapest. Unless these things are specified, then the local authority has no recourse to take the supplier to the courts.
The world of procurement is littered with horror stories. When Gove finally replaces Building Schools for the Future, I'll be interested to see if he relaxes the specifications. I suspect they'll be unchanged.
Gove is a disgrace and should have been sacked.
He has just got his feet under the table and has already made a complete balls up of one of the most difficult area for cuts.
Don't be surprised though. Tory ministers attacking the BBC in general and The Today Show in particular is nothing new.
Brian Redhead who was co-presenter of Today during the '80s was regularly accused by senior Tories of being biased against them.
Total supporters of the Today Programme are probably Labour supporters, and not realise that it is termed the Toady Programme by thinking people, through its past and present total bias to the previous Labour Government.
Now we are inundated with Unions and ex Labour Minister criminals who brought our country on its knees with an economic mess of huge proportions.
The bbc needs to be restructured and many P45's issued, including to the Trust, so that they obey their mandate in stating facts in a professional balanced manner as a public service, and not sprout loony opinions based on fellow traveller think tanks including the ever-present loss making Gruniard.
Radio 4 sails close to Communism on many of their statements, especially with Caroline Quinn and James Naughty.
Have the Tory party, BNP,UKIP and assorted other nutters all combined together to attack the BBC on this so-called Left wing, on-line journal? For a moment there, I thought I had wandered onto the Daily Mail site....
I do believe the BBC is the best broadcaster in the world, and I do listen to Today every day, but what is totally inescapable that there is the perception by a large section of the audience that the presenters are biased, and that the BBC as a whole does have an institutional metropolitan - leftwing, PC bias full of a high percentage of young, gay media types. ( to paraphrase Andrew Marr.)
What rials people is that we are taxed to listen/watch this ( licence fee) . You do not have to watch or pay for Skynews if you do not agree with it's agenda, as people do not have to buy the Guardian if they do not agree with that, however you can be sent to prison for not paying the licence fee/tax.
Is this the Tory strategy now? ... because attacking the interviewer was exactly the strategy of ex-nondom Zac on channel 4 news.
The government needs to cut the BBC down to size for all of our sakes, not least because it is getting too big for its boots.
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