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No significant shift away from Lib Dems, poll shows

There has been no mass defection of voters to Labour from the Liberal Democrats.

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Latest poll (ICM/Guardian): Conservatives 25 seats short of a majority.

After a record number of polls during the election campaign it all went quiet for a while. But with a few now published, some revealing trends are beginning to emerge.

The first ICM/Guardian poll since the election has been released, and shows the Conservatives on 39 per cent (+1), Labour on 32 per cent (-1) and the Liberal Democrats unchanged on 21 per cent, figures identical to those in the most recent YouGov poll.

Lib Dem support is down 3 points since the election, but that's in line with past trends and suggests no significant shift against Nick Clegg's party.

I have always been sceptical of claims that the Lib Dems' decision to enter government with the Tories would prompt a wave of defections to Labour. So it's worth noting that most voters say the coalition agreement has made no difference to their decision to support the Lib Dems and that a quarter say it will make them more likely to vote for the party.

Fifty-nine per cent of voters approve of the coalition agreement, almost exactly the joint share of voters who support the Tories and the Lib Dems, with 32 per cent opposed.

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Hung parliament; Conservatives 25 seats short.

Most encouraging, as the coalition prepares to announce plans for a referendum on the Alternative Vote, is the strong public support for electoral reform, giving the lie to the canard that this is an elite interest. Fifty-six per cent of voters are in favour of a more proportional system, with 38 per cent opposed.

There is even a significant minority of Conservatives -- 45 per cent -- in favour of reform, with 49 per cent supporting retention of first-past-the-post.

I'm not expecting to see a Tories for Electoral Reform group start up any time soon, but it is heartening to know that David Cameron's claim that reform would hand more power to the "political elites" has been ignored by at least some of his own voters.

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11 comments

swatantra's picture

You've convinced me. From now on I will have greater respect for pollsters. They got this election dead right. 40 30 20 is the way its going to stay for a while. Labours Leaders challenge is to move up to 40 and push the Cons down to 30. Going back to 'socialism' is not going to do it, but capturing the centre ground.

davidk1's picture

Save the polls for when the axe starts chopping and unemployment rises inexorably to 4 million.

We'll see some big movement then.

LabMike's picture

"But obviously, if Labour continues with the centre-right positioning strategy that's lost it 5 million voters since 1997, then there's no reason why they should benefit from any of that."

Sadly enough, I really don't think voters are abandoning Labour for the Liberals and the Tories because Labour is too far to the right.

Chris Kav's picture

"56 per cent of voters are in favour of a more proportional system" so why are we getting AV then? It's the only system that might be less proportional...
What we need is Delegated Voting! http://bit.ly/cY5Wlm
That way we get proportionality, but also majority governments when someone really really wins (as happened in 1979-2001, but not 2005-2010).

David Wearing1's picture

"Sadly enough, I really don't think voters are abandoning Labour for the Liberals and the Tories because Labour is too far to the right."

Think about two major policies that characterised Labour's rightward drift. One was the invasion of Iraq, where Labour joined a US government of the hard-right in a neo-colonial war of aggression. Another was Labour's capitulation to Thatcherite orthodoxy on economics, allowing the financial sector to go essentially unregulated and to crowd out the rest of the economy, leaving us uniquely vulnerable to the bursting of speculative bubbles - a regular occurance throughout economic history and an obvious danger.

Aside from the grevious costs to Iraqis themselves, the war caused a "catastrophic loss of trust" in Labour, to quote Ed Miliband, fatally damaging its credibility amongst progressive voters. The economic crash made it impossible for Labour to win a fourth term. Labour's two greatest failures of its term in office were entirely down to a betrayal of its core values.

Note also that the Conservatives and LibDems have consciously been portraying themselves as more progressive than Labour, pitching themselves to the left of Labour on civil liberties for example, or offering different solutions to the same priorities on poverty and inequality.

I would say that if Labour wants to stay wedded to the received wisdom of the 1990s and continue to pursue a losing strategy than that's its own lookout, but the fact is that British politics needs a proper, progressive opposition to the neo-liberal opportunism that Osborne and Laws have got planned. Labour needs to wake up to itself.

Felix's picture

"I'm not expecting to see a "Tories for electoral reform" group any time soon"

You might be surprised! http://www.conservativeelectoralreform.org/

Sue Davies's picture

@David Wearing - You put it so well - keep on saying it!

David Wearing1's picture

The test for the LibDems decision isn't the results of a poll in a post election honeymoon period. The real test will come deeper into the term of this government, when progressive LibDem supporters start to see and experience the pain of the cuts agenda, as the government sets about forcing the public to pay the financial sector's gambling debts. Electoral reform and civil liberties are important, but I strongly suspect that the warm reception the government's had from many liberal commentators on those areas will fade away in the face of the Osborne-Laws "age of austerity".

It doesn't take a genius to see that this government is going to be despised in 5 years time, if not sooner. And given the nature of their support, the LibDems have far more to fear from that than the Conservatives.

But obviously, if Labour continues with the centre-right positioning strategy that's lost it 5 million voters since 1997, then there's no reason why they should benefit from any of that.

mr_wonderful's picture

We are still in very very early days. It's far too soon to start coming to any firm conclusions. Wait until the first mistake, the first scandal, the first resignation etc. It also prompts interesting questions such as will voters now decide voting Lib Dem to keep the Tories out of marginal seats is a pointless exercise now.

thinkov's picture

seconded

David is an outstanding poster,sign him up new statesman

Jeremy Corbyn's picture

I wonder what Lib dem voters who were certainly NOT voting Tory make of it all. Yes getting rid of ID cards is a good thing as is ending child immigration detention, (some Labour MP's opposed those and other attacks on liberties throughout the last three Parliaments). I suspect that when the jobless total rises, the cuts bite home and the Osborne-Laws version of monetarism takes over the grass roots Lib Dems and some MP's will cry out.
It is now up to Labour to defend the best (Sure Start, Childrens Centres, Education spending, minimum wage, Human Rights Act etc); AND admit the ghastly tragedies of Iraq and Afghanistan and the de-regulation of the late 1990's - 00's.
The election results were not uniform, but worth noting that thousands are now joining Labour.
We need a leaderhsip contest that reflects the bredth of opinion in the Party.

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