When Ron Paul met Piers Morgan
"Once you become a Ron Paul supporter you remain a Ron Paul supporter."
By Rebecca Lloyd Published 09 February 2012 17:59Despite his poor performance in the Republican primaries thus far, Ron Paul spoke to Piers Morgan with characteristic optimism and enthusiasm. Arguably more self-assured than Rick Santorum who appeared on the show two weeks ago, Ron Paul refuted claims that he can't win the nomination, telling Piers Morgan: "I have steady growth -- once you become a Ron Paul supporter you remain a Ron Paul supporter."
In his interview with Rick Santorum, Morgan referred to Ron Paul as "barking". While the Texas Congressman has been criticised for his slightly eccentric views, the one thing he cannot be accused of is flip-flopping, unlike fellow candidate Mitt Romney.
Despite being the oldest candidate in the field at 76, Paul has a significant youth following. "My principles of liberty are inviting to young people," he told Morgan. "Their minds are more open; they won't just accept the status quo."
Morgan went on the attack about health care, telling the Congressman that his view -- that if you can't afford health insurance you should essentially fend for yourself -- is uncompassionate. In his defence, Paul argued that the Soviet system wasn't actually able to medically care for its people because it ended up totally bankrupt. In this respect, for Paul, the worst thing possible would be to depend on the government. Speaking as a child of the Great Depression, he said: "You have to assume responsibility for yourself."
However, he failed to mention quite how people should afford backbreaking insurance prices without government assistance. So, what would vulnerable people have to do in Ron Paul's society to get healthcare? The Congressman dodged the question with the sweeping generalisation that "to produce the best middle class you have to do it through freedom, not through redistribution of wealth."
Morgan asked Paul what he thought about Romney's comment that he "isn't concerned about the very poor" -- a statement that has been taken wildly out of context. Refusing to take the talk show host's bait and go on the attack, which is undoubtedly what Newt Gingrich would have done, Paul said: "I don't have many agreements with Mitt on policy - not on foreign policy, spending policy, bailout policy - but I've ended up defending him on this." Unlike the other Republican candidates, Paul doesn't play dirty politics.
Paul did, however, sum up his political ideology: "Sound currency, limited government, contract rights, don't bail out anyone -- that's when the poor get benefits and jobs will come. I'm as concerned about the poor as much as anyone else, but I don't think robbing from one group works."
On foreign policy, Paul is a stark contrast to the views Rick Santorum expressed on the show a few weeks ago. He categorically denies that he is pacifist, but says he only believes in war when it's justified. "From a strict constitutional viewpoint I don't want to fight any wars that aren't declared and, since World War II, nothing has been justifiable because we haven't gone through the proper process." Paul said that he did not support US forces in Afghanistan following the 9/11 attacks because "the country didn't attack us -- a bunch of thugs did."
His foreign policy views stand in particular contrast to the other Republican candidates' with regard to Iran. Santorum, speaking to Morgan a number of weeks ago, said that he would have no qualms about bombing Iran. However, Ron Paul said that a pre-emptive strike would be aggression and "aggression is for dictators." His view on the pre-emptive issue has caused him to appear weak on national security. He said: "Iran is the same principle as Iraq. We were wrong to go in there and we lost 8,500 US lives."
He confirmed his isolationist philosophy by saying that the British should be the ones to "take care of Israel," not America. "Why is it assumed that we are the policemen of the world, that it's our moral obligation? Besides, we're broke!"
Paul's non-interventionist policies are certainly seen as radical and, in many ways, deeply un-Republican. Fellow GOP candidate Newt Gingrich said that Paul's views "are totally out of the mainstream," although this is a little rich coming from the man who is planning a moon colony.
Morgan bizarrely asked the Congressman whether he was "a spanker" with his children. Comparing his parenting and foreign policy views, Paul told him: "I reject the use of force and intimidation with children, as I do with politics."
The interview made for uncomfortable viewing as Morgan rarely let Paul finish a sentence. While his rigidity and firmness in his policy ideas has been praised, Paul did demonstrate a willingness and ability to modify his opinions and bend where necessary. However, the self-proclaimed "conservative liberal" is perhaps the man you want as your grandfather, not your president.
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17 comments
Paul is the only politician on either side of the Atlantic speaking sense. He promises real cuts, not just cuts in projected spend.
He talks of ending the continuous wars. For that he is called a "whack job" by a failing celebrity commentator.
Ron Paul has a tiny wee winkie.
ron paul understands the fundementals of the corporate/government alliance hence his views on healthcare. the fact that the medical insurance companies wrote obamas health bill makes it obvious that more people will lose out. these guys dont do anything for nothing. put it this way, it was never going to be the nhs!!!! even with the standards it has now.
RP is americas and the worlds only hope. without him we will sink to the depths of hell with ongoing wars, ongoing surveillance and ongoing robbery of the common man through endless bailouts, corporate fraud and unjust taxation
viva ron paul
@fdhgfdhJI I cannot understand your comment on the article could you please elucidate... many thanks
''Only Ron Paul can save America''
I don't like to say anything mean about Dr Paul because he's really old, and he looks frail. But when I hear his supporters talking about him like he's the Messiah, it really baffles me.
How can Ron Paul save America exactly?
He wants to eliminate the department of education, energy, housing, commerce, and urban development. He opposed the civil Rights act in 1964, he's not concerned about climate change, or health care for that matter. He's response at the debates on health care was simply shocking. He's obsession with the Gold standard is bizarre.
But the single most important thing that makes me suspicious of this guy is the fact that he was responsible for the creation of Rand Paul ( his son).
The caveman believed in climate change- it was happening then too! What???
Bee - you are ridiculously misinformed. Please go read a bit more or perhaps follow what is going on before you start blurting YOUR interpretations of what Paul wants to do and what he doesn't. But let us take your views as given right... He is still the only candidate who has put emphasis of the budget deficit coming under control before it is too late. He is the only candidate who has strongly opposed the increase in the money supply with nothing backing it (because let's face it - nothing IS backing it). And EVERYTHING else should be secondary to this - regardless if he is right or wrong, because society - as it has been shaped today - grows and develops through economics and the sustainability of an economy. If you fail that, you fail all else. So WAKE up, go educate yourself then come back to a comment page absolutely dominated by educated Paul fans.
you just lost me Dr. Paul
Another writer with an agenda.
SEE the writer's last sentence.
BTW...I already have a grandfather.
And the Americans that are voting for RON PAUL have *their* grandfathers.
You silly, silly woman that ends articles with silly, silly statements.
Listen Miss. Charles Dickenswannabe
WE WANT RON PAUL as THE USA PRESIDENT
Btw...MissCharlesDickenswannabe....
it is ILLEGAL to discriminate against age in the USA.
Do be careful with your comments of
'grandfathers'.
People who are age 40 and older are protected from employment discrimination based on age by the Age Discrimination in Employment Act (ADEA) of 1967. The ADEA’s protections apply to both employees and job applicants. Age discrimination is PROHIBITED in any term, condition, or privilege related to employment.
Age discrimination is UNLAWFUL in any phase of employment including job postings, job descriptions, interviews, hiring, salaries, job assignments, merit increases, performance management and evaluation, training, disciplinary actions, promotions, demotions, benefits, employment termination, and layoffs.
You got that MissCharlesDickenswannabe???
I just find the whole concept of a 'market' in health care findamentally wrong. I don't think the profit motive belongs there as profit instead of people becaomes the primary driver for everything. Ron Paul's views on a lot of things and his candour are however altogether refreshing.
''OMFG. If you eat hamburgers everyday all day, you're going to be a fatass. Now you want me to pay your health costs because you can't walk anymore and you didn't save up for this disastorous situation? Fk you and everybody like you.''
Yes that's right, because every poor person in America who gets sick is because of eating too many hamburgers. Dickhead. Typical red neck yank - knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
The facts of the matter are that income inequality is growing (fact1), govt budget deficit is increasing (fact2), regardless of what happens or who is voted in - social medicare at some point in the near future will suffer inevitably (fact3). Solution: start from the core of issue - the economy. And in my eyes, no other candidate has focused on the rot in the US finances other than Paul himself. Create a sound economy where medical care is affordable for EVERYONE. People seem to forget that the lower three 10% deciles of income groups in the US are actually experiencing negative growth (factor in inflation and that goes to even higher deciles)!! But then again, what average person will understand this? But lets go Mitt! Job creation yeh?! Hahah...
I'm British and the reason Peers Morgan went to America was because he's hated over here. Literally nobody has a good word to say about him and he's made a mockery of by just about any commentator, comedian or analyst. Ron Paul is the only person to speak clear sense on all the issues which affect America and the world in general.
It's not rocket science - get Govt out of the pockets of business and then out of the way of business, stop entering illegal unjust wars and stop the Fed bankrupting the country. Doing those things would turn the economy around in no time. Sadly, the Media and Elite will conspire to ensure that Romney gets GOP nomination and none of it will be done - which will lead to another World War to 'try' and correct the mess. Remember Bush commented that the way out of economic problems is through war and that America has prospered through war.
Only Ron Paul can save America.
If the New Statesman would just classify this as an Op Ed piece then most people wouldn't have as much of an issue with it. Please stop trying to pass off Op Ed pieces as straight news stories. That's why most news outlets are quickly losing credibility, their supposed journalists are anything but.
Dr Paul should not be forced to sit through an interview with someone like Piers Morgan. The guy is an intellectual lightweight and Dr Paul has more important things to be doing.
Restoring America now!