Everything changes as Brown makes way for a progressive alliance
If it happens, you read it here first.
By James Macintyre Published 10 May 2010 18:30
So, just when you thought events couldn't get much more dramatic at Westminster, Gordon Brown has just trumped it all by announcing he will be standing aside as Labour leader before the party conference in the autumn, after presiding over talks with Nick Clegg to secure a progressive alliance for what he called a "progressive majority" in Britain.
There was much shock on the airwaves, on Twitter and elsewhere in the blogosphere, but it was pretty clear by Saturday that a serious counter-offer from Labour was being planned. As I wrote then:
By the end of the weekend, the possibilities of a "progressive alliance" may be discussed at last. It appears that Labour is, indeed, preparing to make Clegg an offer that would surely be agonisingly hard to refuse, including a referendum on real proportional representation, a sizeable handful of cabinet posts and even the conceivability of a timetable for Gordon Brown's departure from No 10.
Well, it took a little longer than the weekend for the plan to go public but, by making it so, Brown the master strategist has blown the Tory-Liberal talks out of the water and created havoc in the Conservative parliamentary meeting beginning in about half an hour.
There should be a strong caveat here: it is, of course, very possible that the Lib Dems and Tories will still agree a deal. Indeed, it may even be more likely, now that Tory minds will have been focused by Brown's announcement.
If, however, against all odds, David Cameron does not manage to form a government and there is indeed a Labour-Liberal coalition, I hope you will forgive this not-to-be-repeated lapse into self-congratulation when I say, having endured so much abuse in this space over the months, that you read it here, and only here first.
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55 comments
Get brown out!
National Interest 0
Party Politics 2
Excellent. Conservatives go to hell.
Nice one Jim - you called it.
Loving your tweets too by the way.
Let the stitch up begin....
Lib Lab pact = traitors top Democracy.
This could be the day that democracy dies.
Gordon Brown is turns into the tinpot dictator we all knew he had the capability to be.
I think you'll see that the city agrees tomorrow.
It'll be fun to watch the Tory Party turn on itself if they're not in power. The Tory party exists to wield power, that is all.
Never quite understand why tory trolls read blogs like this. James, despite the howls of laughter from the right wing media/blogosphere, has proved to be a far more insightful analyst than many of the far more highly paid and overly self important arbiters of public opinion
Outrageous. I voted LD to get Brown out! This just demonstrates the disregard the Labour party has for democracy. They lost and have no mandate. Why couldn't they be gratious and let the Con/LD negotiations take place without interference in the interests of the country. If the loser coalition happens the new labour leader would have to call a GE straight away and there would be no chance for PR to be introduced by then. Lib Dems would be hammered for their duplicitous negotiations and only return a handful of MPs under FPTP. They might not even win a referendum on PR as the public would see what happens with hung parliaments. Don't do it Nick - you are being taken for a fool.
a Lib-Lab pact would be a coalition of the losers the only way to go is a Tory minority or Lib-Con pact
the Tory's won more seats and a greater percentage of the vote - they desserve it
@Yeti.
What a bunch of lily-livered dandies must run The City. Flipping and flopping all over the latest headline or twitter trend. You'd almost think that they had no principles, guidelines or sense of direction.
Last week 'the markets' were all going to collapse because of a hung parliament. Tomorrow they'll spiral because a Prime Minister that they don't like will step down as Labour leader. Even though last week they might have spiralled if he didn't.
The FTSE is still based on the value of Britain's 100 leading companies isn't it? Commodities can still be traded in the markets can't they?
Or perhaps gold will turn to cheese, oil to ink and everyone will stop buying anythingg. News of the death of democracy is being greatly exaggerated.
Well sais Emma.
Incredible that Brown tries to say that this is in "the national interest." Now this will drag on and on and become a embarassment.
They said they would put party politics to one side. They haven't.
We have no way of telling yet if this is going to prove to be decisive in the bringing about of a Lib/Lab pact, but my God, I love that man.
Watching the right-wing self-combust with indignant rage is ridiculously entertaining.
Mandelson unelected, Adonis unelected and Brown unelected. The very same people who have set this whole thing up. Left wing or right wing, democracy is being shafted.
I never knew Nick Robinson had a Parrot.
But Jim, they will be the biggest party by a considerable distance and potentially have no say in power.
The majority of the electorate certainly don't want a stitch up like this.
You fools. You've just saved cameroon! So ironic. So beautiful. You will have united his party behind him in a way that could never have happened with him in government with the libs. You've just tainted the liberals with gordon brown. 4 more months! Laughable. With the nationalist parties you will need to form a government/get pr, you will have to exempt wales, scotland and NI from spending cuts. Hows that going to play on the doorsteps next election in england?!!! The pound's already taken a nosedive- Brown as twice unelected prime minister!! Opposition would have been a boon for labour as it would have left them as the only serious opposition. They would have been out for one term if they could sort out their leadership problems!! this has made the liberals look terrible opportunists and (once more) Brown as prime minister!!?!
Pr has been a disaster for labour in scotland, they want to change it up there! and do you really think you will have enough labour votes for this, it would take just two votes from labour mp's against to block it!
I hope that formal coalition talks between the Libs and labour occur immediately.
You have just guaranteed a tory majority.
well done
Oh, and by the way, you heard it hear first!
Whew! It looks like democracy might actually prevail after all.
A progressive alliance supported by the vast majority of voters will change the face of British politics forever - and for better.
*sigh* 'here' first.
I wish you would get an edit button for victims of the state education system and dyslexics like me!
The Conservatives are offering a referendum on AV! It's all over for them. That has to be unacceptable to the Lib-Dems.
"Whew! It looks like democracy might actually prevail after all."
How so? The party with the most seats and votes has no say in government. A Labour leader currently unelected replaced by another unelected leader. The parties coming 2nd and 3rd in the popular vote taking power.
Please tell me where democracy prevails?
Democracy prevails when a centre-left government representing 15 million voters faces a conservative opposition representing 10 million. Looks pretty clear cut to me.
You know Gordon didn't get it so badly wrong when he mocked Cameron and Clegg as being like two little boys at bathtime and now the daddy of them all has just given politics the biggest clean up of all times! You can't criticise Gordon for stepping down you Tories, you've been calling for it for the last three years! Nor can you say Clegg's a charlatan because that would leave Cameron with even more egg on his face; given his eagerness to stitch up a deal whilst wearing the 'I agree with Nick' T shirt!. Can't help feeling this has been masterminded by Mandy, and it's looking good! The cons and Libs would just never have worked together, we all know that. Lab and Lib values are much more closely matched and by proportion (oh do I hear Cameron creak with fear at the use of that word) the collective vote is a a good few more million that the Tories mustered, so using the old moralistic argument Cameron was advocating Friday morn it seems like the natural winner is Lab and Liberal, led by I suspect, Milliband. Bring them on! Let the cons fade into history and take their crazy plans on the economy with them!
The wife turned on the BBC to watch The Weakest Link and called me to watch the announcement live from Downing St. Watching the BBC's tory in chief Nick Robinson practically spitting with outrage made me laugh out loud. And here's me thinking the Beeb was supposed to be impartial. Gordon & Mandy have more nous than the other lot put together throwing the cat among the pigeons like that. If this comes off watch the tory party implode in recrimination. You heard that here first as well.
What a load of tosh about resigning!
Well, the UK could be stuck with Gordon Brown as Prime Minister until the next General Election(5 more years of Gordon Brown)! He used the words 'if' and 'hopefully' and to me this casks a matter of doubt over his resignation.
In my opinion, once he gets the 'Confidence of Commons' during the Queen's speech later this month, he could hold the Country to 'ransom'!
The position as Prime Minister in return for:
1.'The Economic Recovery' which can take years.
2.'Election Reform' which can also take years.
Gordon Brown offers an unstable government in a rainbow coalition government (somewhat a matter of a few seats), therefore one has to ask himself whether he taking the tactical position 'If I can't run the Country, then no one else will'.
Lets say, Lib Dem will not get 'Election Reform' and the 'Economic recovery' will take forever.
The above is just my opinion!
Hague's statement is an admission that the Coservatives will not be part of the government. Offering a referendum on AV is a sop and shows the Conseratives are, in no way, interested in sharing power.
He's trying to establish a narrative which says "We did our best... blah blah... but they didn't want it."
@Leon:
"Outrageous. I voted LD to get Brown out! This just demonstrates the disregard the Labour party has for democracy."
So, you voted ‘to get Brown out’, and when he subsequently offers to fall on his sword, you *complain*?
Ever heard of Cognitive Dissonance?
LOL.
Let's not even consider that *most* of the Electorate voted to keep the Tories OUT.
When Bliar won a majority of Seats and formed a Government with only 37% of votes cast, I bet you moaned bout how ‘undemocratic’ it was, didn't you?
(And you would have been right, because it *was* horribly undemocratic.)
And yet, now, when the Tories not only poll a lower percentage of votes cast than Blair did, but also FAIL to win a majority of Seats, you claim that this somehow equals a thumping mandate from the British people?
Don't make me plotz!
It must be *really* galling for the poor Tories - all those millions spent by Cashcroft...
...all those SCREAMING BANNER HEADLINES in the owned-by-nom-dom/foreign-billionaires Tory press, all their scaremongering calumnies against non-Tory options to try to drum up support...
...all those years TRYING to de-contaminate the ‘Nasty Party’ brand, even down to hiding Osborne, Letwin and Redwood away for the duration of the campaign...
...and yet, and yet...
...your blue-eyed boy STILL cannot secure a majority of Seats in the House of Commons, let alone a majority of support from the British public.
How *very* dare they?
The majority of the electorate did not vote for a Tory government. A wopping 65% did not vote for them. They lost the election. So why oh why do the likes of beak and Emma ask about democracy? If the left unites they represent a larger portion of the people than the right. That's democracy!
"I fail to understand how a Lib-Lab pact would have less of a mandate than one of a Con-Lib persuasion."
Er, that is because the Tory/LibDem alliance would have a majority and the lib dem/labour one wouldn't.
Hairball - the largest party with most votes and seasts should have a say in government. The lib dems and labour are 2 different parties so you can't compare.
And please stop calling it a "progressive alliance" So patronising!
Left-wingers in Great Britain are socialists in the Labour party, while the marvellous Conservatives right has the characterised by individualism, free enterprise and freedom. Lib Dem are a central party adopting various synthesis both right and left. So techincally Lib Dems are not strictly left and therefore can not be added to the Labour votes! However, 'New Labour' sought to transcend the left-right dichotomy by asserting the third way: a so called synthesis of the socialist and Conversative traditions.
In summing up, an 'anti-conversative majority' is total nonsense with no supporting evidence!!!
David Cameron for Prime minister!!!
Tory Right wing votes = 10 million
Lib/Lab Left wing votes = 15 million
Nuff said
how can david cameron be pm of Great Britain when England were the only country in the UNITED KINGDOM that voted for him. only 18% of scots voted tory and 23% of Welsh. In ENgland only 40% actually voted tory. Its a hung parliament, which means that NO-ONE won. Just cos Torys got the most seats does not mean most people want them in. Most people voted for a left wing Progressie system. Not a Thatcherite, Tory Etonian boy. SO if Lab and Lib can come to an agreement most of the People in the Uk and most of the countries in the Union will be represented fairly!
" Tory Right wing votes = 10 million
Lib/Lab Left wing votes = 15 million
Nuff said"
Amazingly simplistic!
Also, I dont know if anyone has taken notice, but in the English Council Elections, the torys actually LOST 8 councils, when Labour made a gain of 14 councils. Which tells me even the English rejected the Tories at a local level and that Gordon Brown leaving was all they wanted. Hes going, let him leave gracefully and leave a Progressive Alliance behind legacy him!
Again David. Amazingly simplistic.
It was still in line with the national vote.
The Tories today are making promises they won't keep to the Lib Dems.
Sure Brown lost the election. Labour lost nearly 100 seats and Brown in going before being challenged deserves some credit. For that and stopping Dave having a majority.
There IS an anti-conservative majority in Britain - Reginald Snooty Pants. The Lib Dems are centre to centre left. As are the SNP, PC, Greens and the SDLP.
Centre/Centre Left- 55.9%
Conservative - 36.1%
Labour voters if not the leadership are firmly on the left of the spectrum.
Gordon lost but Dave did not win a majority of seats or anything like a majority of votes.
If only Labour had held 10-20 more seats then this alternative coalition might be a goer...
To be honest i think Gordon Brown has shown amazing Dignity in the way he has handled this and love him or hate him he has done some great things for this country. I wonder who the Tories will "witch-hunt" now he is leaving. He is the first EVER Prime Minister whom didnt go to Oxbridge, he is also the countries most Succesful Chancellor. He isnt the showman or celebrity type of Cameron. He is a very intelligent son of a Minister. Whom grew up in Working class Scotland. Oppose to an upper class toff whom has never worked an honest day in his life. Well done Gordon, against all odds you made it to the top and you will now leave graciously, putting your country and your love of the socialist values of equality before your own personal gain. We wont know what we had until your gone.
Gordon Brown organised his exit door left with his greatest ever political maneuver....http://redrag1.blogspot.com/2010/05/red-rag-brown-makes-ultimate-sacrifice.html
David, that was a lovely peice on one of Britains worst prime-ministers. Your last line "We wont know what we had until your gone" well what can you say! Priceless!
If the LibDems prop up Labour it will the Toulouse-Lautrec Government. The Two Losers Party. Putting themselves first. Let the Country go hang.
'He is the first EVER Prime Minister whom didnt go to Oxbridge'
No he isn't Neville Chamberlain went to what is now Birmingham University and lets not forget that Lloyd George, Andrew Bonar Law, Ramsay MacDonald, Winston Churchill,James Callaghan and John Major never went to University.
Dear Sir Your decision to talk to labour means to me you have thrown the national interest out of the window for the interest of your party this will harm yourself and your party in the future Labour will do the same old things ignoring people already the are offering you PR without the peoples permissionwe will have a unelected P M again if you go with LABOUR they will go on to destroy this nation and you will be remembered has the man who helped them do it when I heard you were talking to Labour after they assured you of P R I thought this stinks of self Interest
Gordon Brown has been treated shabbily by the right wing media. They've been baying for his blood for the past 3 years. Today they are crowing with delight in much the same way as they did with Michael Foot and Tony Benn before. They trash left wing leaders so now we have none. The likes of David Milliband will never achieve the support of the latent left wing that still abides in this country.
From whence comes this idea that 'the national interest' is synonymous with David Cameron forming a government? Erm, apart from Tory supporters, that is. The fact is, neither of the two main parties won a clear majority, so neither has more right to govern.
The Tories have had their chance to make a deal with Mr Clegg and it appears that, just as they failed to convince the electorate, that they are now struggling likewise to convince the LibDems.
As for Gordon Brown, rather than the constant Guido Fawkes-style butchery of the man, why can't people just look at the situation with some coolness and see the amount of dignity required today for Brown to come out like this and stand aside. Does anybody think it is easy? People on the right are beginning to lapse into the pathological empathy-deprivation of US Republicans.
It's kind of pathetic to witness at the same time as a rollmop herring type guy like Cameron is paraded as their political genius, saviour of mankind (well, maybe just of investment portfolios)
Just something out of the USSR Politburo circa 1972! And the next PM chosen by the Unions! Comrades! Victory at last!
I was very depressed on Sunday at the thought of a Lib-Con Coalition. I did not vote Lib-Democrat to see the Tories get in through the back door. I am working class and on a low income. I am appalled that my local MP Graham Stringer and John Reid want to throw in the towel and throw us poor working people to the Tory wolves within 50 days.
Luckily, at this election 'democracy' seems to have worked more efficiently than it has for several decades . Both the big parties are neoliberal, both have been unpopular for a long time and, now, neither can claim a mandate, technical or otherwise.
Certainly, the place of the big parties seems to have become less secure. But unfortunately, the LibDems are also neoliberal, and so, until PR is adopted, no alliannce at Westminster can reflect the wishes of the people
Let the Tories forge a coalition with the Lib-Dems. It's time Labor took stock, licked its wounds and developed a winable programme. It seems there's cycle of life and death with governments, so why not aknowledge the death and grow something new and vital. That's the creative solution I think. (as an outsider, a Labor voter going wayback and an Australlian.
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