The bar was set high, and Ed Miliband has cleared it
"An audition before the country for the post of Prime Minister."
By Rafael Behr Published 02 October 2012 16:20
The Labour leader took a risk today. There was a technical risk: he spoke without notes, which can go wrong in many ways. And the speech was long, which exponentially increases the danger of stumbling and losing the audience. But that is a small practical obstacle compared to the tactical gamble that his speech represented, which was – in effect – advertising itself as an audition before the country for the post of Prime Minister.
He didn’t set it out in quite those terms, but throughout the week his team has been allowing the idea to float around that this would be a defining piece of oration. The Miliband camp took the highly hazardous step of acknowledging that there had been flaws in the way their candidate presented himself and admitting that voters are under-whelmed by the Labour leader – or downright dismissive. So expectations were ramped up, which is the opposite of what usually happens. (The standard line at these conferences is “it’s only a speech, why is everyone so excited, of course it’s not a make or break moment.” Etc.)
So the Miliband operation set the bar high. Luckily for them, the Labour leader appears to have cleared it. He seemed much more confident than he has done on similar occasions in the past; much more in control of the mood in the room and much more assertive in delivering his message. He got a few good laughs in the right places. His theme - “One Nation” - was a pretty audacious raid on Tory language and, as a fusion of traditional left appeals to solidarity and a patriotic idiom more commonly associated with the right, it clearly has potential as a platform to reach out to a wide section of the electorate. His aides are busy now describing it as a radical vision. (That, of course, is something they always do.)
The obvious criticism was that Miliband is still travelling very light on policy and still skirts over the question of tricky spending pledges. It wasn’t exactly a macho demonstration of tough choices and a trampling of party shibboleths. (That really isn’t Miliband’s style.) He is wide open to the charge of policy flimsiness. No doubt the defence will come out that David Cameron was no more heavily freighted with practical policy at an equivalent point in his time in opposition. The mid-term challenge is to attract voters attention and sustain their interest in a way that makes them think they might be looking at their next Prime Minister. That was the explicit task that Ed Miliband set himself this week. Did he pass the audition? Too early to tell. But I suspect the party will come away more confident that they can talk about Prime Minister Miliband and the Conservatives will be a little bit less complacent in their assumption that no one is listening.
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I most be the only person in the world who can hear the lisp on this man. Good enough for the Labour party, but not the country
You may be the only person stupid enough to try and make the way someone speaks an issue and a bar to doing a job. Grow up you pathetic person.
By all accounts, Miliband spoke for over an hour and the speech was utterly vacuous. No policies, no ideas, no direction. Repeating 'One nation' over forty times might make it sound like there is a core argument, but he didn't define what the nation in question was. More pissing in the wind from a party which has clearly run out of ideas and credibility.
"More pissing in the wind from a party which has clearly run out of ideas and credibility."
But not, interestingly enough, run out of a lead in the polls. So it would seem the Conservatives are currently less popular than a party that's clearly run out of ideas and credibility. Still, your words, not mine.
"by all accounts" means that you didn't watch or listen to him and have not bothered to do so since and yet here you are giving an uneducated opinion on it. I think the word "vacuous" should be used to describe your comments, attempting to give an appraisal of something you know nothing about.
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The man did well, Very well. Given the reaction of the legion of right wing media, tory commentators and internet trolls, I think he has them seriously rattled.
Exactly so. They are now scared, hence why they are out in their droves trying to discredited him (guess the message went out from CCHQ). I guess all of these people thought he was going to do badly, teach them for believing the right wing hype and not giving him a fair hearing, people are now beginning to get a glimpse of the Ed Miliband that many of us knew was there all along.
Some of the Tory commentators have made me laugh, spluttering and wanting to try and tear into him but can't find anything substantial with which to do it, so they have resorted to nitpicking which has made them look ridiculous and petty. Jonathan Maitland is one such hack, what a fool he made of himself. Wanting to decry Ed but having nothing to do it with - hilarious.
The death of Eric Hobsbawm has created a vacancy in the Order of Companions of Honour.
Especially after today, it ought to go to the former Foreign Secretary, David Miliband.
Bless.
Cut all connections to Blair, and you might stand a chance.
Just finished watching the speech on BBC Parliament. It was very good. It set out a clear vision within which policy can be developed. Committing to repeal the NHS bill and focusing on the 50% that don't go to uni was a good start. Lets see how the industrial strategy and banking reforms flesh out within it.
I thought he came across rather well. Authentic. Something I think many are craving in politicians. I was surprised and impressed.
David A Lindsay, what exactly does "The One makes The Nation" mean? It sounds a bit mystical, I have to say. So public services, the welfare state and public ownership bind together The Union-really? Do you really believe that a postwar history of well meaning state intervention coupled with botched municipalism and special interest politics is of any more relevance to the UK than the preceding 100 years of imperial expansion?
My point is that they're both equally redundant in the face of the questions of English and Scottish identity and political self-expression. Only last week the leader of the Labour Party in Scotland pulled the plug on a commitment to universal benefits, then followed it up with a tacit acceptance of the likelihood of devo max. In Scotland the Tories and the Lib Dems are an irrelevance, as you know. The only real players are the SNP and Labour, and the latter has been entirely reactive for the last five years, with no genuine initiative, coherent policy, or self-belief. The union is dying: any genuine progressive or liberal in Scotland or England should be glad of that. Only reactionaries on the left or right will mourn it.
The idea fills me with dread, of Scotland permanently under the thumb of the most ardently Thatcherite party in the United Kingdom, the SNP, which is therefore able to run the remnant Official Tory operation as a wholly owned subsidiary. If anything, the Scottish Tories are further to the left than the SNP.
The transition of the Labour Party in Scotland (there is, in point of fact, no such organisation as the Scottish Labour Party, although Jim Sillars did briefly maintain such a thing a long time ago) to that way of thinking is a very good reason for the party centrally to take a firmer hold of it.
Anyone who might complain on more or less nationalist grounds could then be asked, "So, you'd rather have the Lamont school of Salmondism Lite, would you?"
You're clearly delusional if you belive the SNP is Thatcherite. It's Labour (I assume you're a member of Johann Lament's party) who are proposing to wield the axe in Scotland, not the SNP.
It's Lamont who (albeit without a great deal of articulation) wants to means test people (means testing has been shown to cost money in bureaucracy and to discourage people from 'claiming' what they are 'entitled' to, meaning that the apparent 'targeting' of resources fails). Why? Because she has no vision for her country. She wants a 'debate' about choices that the Scottish people made in May 2011 (overwhelmingly rejecting Labour), and about policies that she and her predecessor, Iain Gray, adopted on the eve of the election campaign in order to try to shore up their collapsing vote (a strategy which failed). As recently as May 2012 she was pictured with Glasgow city council Labour group leader, Gordon Mathieson, pledging to freeze council tax for five years. Why the Damadcene conversion? She is both Nick Clegg and George Osborne in a skirt.
It is Lamont who is being congratulated for her U-turn by Tories up and down these islands, not the SNP. It was Gordon Brown (remember him?) who had Thatcher to tea in Downing Street, not Alex Salmond.
Given her crass stupidity, I'd rather not have any 'Lamont school', because I doubt she was a very good maths teacher. Incidentally, when you refer to 'nationalist grounds', do you mean Scottish or British nationalism?
Stuck in a time warp! Your analysis of Gladstone vs Disraeli muddled with allusions
to China as a Superpower is inept. Why not include the Treaty of Berlin, the dismemberment of the Ottoman Empire, the acquisition of Cyprus, not to mention the Afghan War, the Zulu War, and the Irish Question (of Home Rule). Your comments are out of date, and irrelevant.
What you mean is that you cannot understand them. Which is not the same thing.
One thing Ed Miliband said was
"Have you ever seen a more incompetent, hopeless, out-of-touch, U-turning, pledge-breaking, make it up as we go along, back of the envelope miserable shower than this Prime Minister and this government?"
Sound's just like Gordan Brown government to me you know the government that you and Ed Balls were ministers in
So please tell us in detail and provide proof of your allegations - seriously I'd like to know. (Brainless accusations of Labour ruining the global economy are not permitted)
AGREED!
One thing Ed Miliband said was
"Have you ever seen a more incompetent, hopeless, out-of-touch, U-turning, pledge-breaking, make it up as we go along, back of the envelope miserable shower than this Prime Minister and this government?"
Sound's just like Gordan Brown government to me you know the government that you and Ed Balls were ministers in
There wasnt too much different from the conservative party and tories, the differences really are paper thin. I preferred the balls speech.
There wasnt too much different from the conservative party and tories, the differences really are paper thin. I preferred the balls speech.
Er the Conservatives and the "Tories" are one and the same party. (Probably why you don't see much difference!)
Political pygmies Ed Miliband and David Cameron are not fit to be described in the same light as great Gladstone or Disraeli.
Yeah, more talk, talk, talk.
Meanwhile you can't put a razor blade between the three main Parties.
They are united in protecting the privileged at the expense of the rest.
Under New Labour the poor got poorer and the rich, richer.
Fact.
Why would anybody think this would change?
Oh, Ed, you're so wunnerful, oh Ed, oh please please reward me with a place in a think tank or a safe seat or an interview when you is da PM....purleeze. What a grovelling piece of sycophancy.
What a silly comment.
Oh dear, I see the speech really rattled you then? lol
That comment was to "John Smith". All this change on here and no tools, no highlight, no edit, no quote or italics facilities etc - pretty basic.
You best not read Mehdi Hasan's piece of arse-kissing in the Huffington Post (Hey, Dave, Anything You Can Do, I Can Do Better), I fear your head would explode.
If you steal Tory clothes don't be surprised if people believe that you are a Tory.
WHEN Ed Miliband was running against his brother David for the leadership of the Labour Party, we were told “Ed speaks human”. Last week he gave a big speech promoting his big new idea of “predistribution”. Presumably “predistribution” is like when you legally divide up your parents’ multi-million-pound house into three parts so that when you inherit the North London home in Primrose Hill you avoid hefty inheritance taxes. Which is exactly what Ed and David Miliband did.
WHEN Ed Miliband was running against his brother David for the leadership of the Labour Party, we were told “Ed speaks human”. Last week he gave a big speech promoting his big new idea of “predistribution”. Presumably “predistribution” is like when you legally divide up your parents’ multi-million-pound house into three parts so that when you inherit the North London home in Primrose Hill you avoid hefty inheritance taxes. Which is exactly what Ed and David Miliband did.
To say nothing about the Conservative chancellor Gidiot Osborne hiring a team of accountants to get him out of paying a £million inheritance tax!
Just an aside, Ed Miliband was listed in the Telegraph as one of the good MPs, who made modest claims on his expenses.
Can Micchoo say predistribution without spraying spittle over everyone? especially when he is so obviously rattled by Miliband's successful conference speech, which he chooses to omit.
With his One Nation rhetoric he just cancelled out Wales, Scotland and N.I who are very proud of their small nations within UK. It already frustrates us especially in Scotland when we hear or read from Americans that England = UK/Britain and we feel like the forgotten people. Miliband has just extended that even further worldwide into the way people perceive the Britain/UK...that the rest of us are just regions of it and thats very, very insulting to Wales, Scotland and N.Ireland! One Nation is as much of a lie as All In It Together!
With his One Nation rhetoric he just cancelled out Wales, Scotland and N.I who are very proud of their small nations within UK. It already frustrates us especially in Scotland when we hear or read from Americans that England = UK/Britain. Miliband has just extended that even further worldwide into the way people perceive the Britain/UK...that the rest of us are just regions of it and thats very, very insulting to Wales, Scotland and N.Ireland! One Nation is as much of a lie as All In It Together!
No he has not. Milliband was not referring to physical boundaries and languages and traditions but to the things that separate us as a nation- elitism wealth education etc.
The One makes the Nation: the Union is bound together by the Welfare State, the public services and public ownership. Scotland is not going to want out of that. There has never been any suggestion that Wales ever would. It now enjoys clear majority support within both communities in Northern Ireland.
Well if the Union is bound together by the Welfare State, it'll have been undone in less than eighteen months by the Tories attacks on social security and the privatisation of the NHS. These are things which Labour seem to tacitly support, and which their leader in Scotland seems to want to push through (with the support of the BBC, if their bizarre unquestioning 'promotion' of the English NHS reforms on Newsnight Scotland last Thursday are anything to go by).
And in terms of public ownership, the only things which are nationalised at the moment are the east coast main line franchise, and a majority shareholding in RBS and Lloyds banking groups. Or do you still think the government owns British Airways, British Steel, British Rail, the Coal Board, British Telecom, British Gas and so on?
If you are going to make an argument in favour of the continuance of the Union, please make sure the basis of your argument is grounded in the real world, not some sort of bizarre fantasy.
That the Conservative Party has for so long supported the "free" market, contrary to its own history, is because it has for so long been dominated by people who are not in fact conservatives at all, but rather Liberal Unionists, Liberal Imperialists, National Liberals, and so forth, exemplified in part by Alderman Alfred Roberts (who sat as an Independent while the Liberal Party collapsed around him, never joining the Conservative Party to his dying day), and thus above all by his daughter, Margaret Thatcher.
In fact, Toryism in its Disraelian classical form has far more in common with Labourism in its classical, also very Disraelian, form than either has with this Gladstonian Liberalism. Labourism agrees wholeheartedly both with the importance of defending the conservative values and with the "free" market's self-evidently destructive effects upon them, but goes further in proposing, specifically, the universal and comprehensive Welfare State (including, for example, farm subsidies) and the strong statutory and other, including trade union, protection of workers, consumers, communities and the environment, the former paid for by progressive taxation, the whole underwritten by full employment, and all these good things delivered by the partnership between a strong Parliament and strong local government.
Albeit with differences as to detail, this has always been acceptable to Tories, but certainly not to Thatcherites, since Thatcher was not a Tory (i.e., a Disraelian), but, like her father, a Gladstonian, a Whig, a Liberal. In fact, far more of the Tory populist heritage was carried over into the emerging Labour Movement than into the Conservative Party. The former took over Radical Liberalism or Tory populism in accordance with the local political culture on the ground, whereas the latter has always been a wholesale Liberal takeover of the Tory machine, effectively compelling Tory voters to support Liberal politicians, not least by pretending that the aspirations of such electors had nothing in common with the only viable alternative since the end of the First World War. This Government and the public reaction to it ought to have finished off those fantasies once and for all, and it looks more and more as if they have indeed done so. Especially after this afternoon.
Furthermore, since Gladstonians favour unregulated markets, they therefore also favour the use of armed force to secure that global state of affairs, which they see as necessary for the emergence and defence of democratic institutions. By contrast, we Disraelians see such economic arrangements as subversive both of those institutions and of the values that, among other good things, sustain them; accordingly, we are immensely cautious about adventures abroad. The rising Chinese superpower confirms our belief that the "free" market not only subverts democratic institutions and their necessary underlying values, but prevents those institutions from developing where they do not already exist.
David Cameron, like Tony Blair, is a Gladstonian. Ed Miliband is a Disraelian. Let battle commence.