Obama and the drones: the neuroscience of power
Martha Gill's Irrational Animals column.
By Martha Gill Published 14 June 2012 13:50
As newspapers struggle to save money and staff time, I’d like to suggest “Powerful Man Does Off-Colour Thing” as a handily recyclable headline. A few weeks ago, Jeremy Hunt’s only vice seemed to be that he danced the zouk lambada with a real enthusiasm. How could this man have risked his job sending texts to News International? Barack Obama once had a gentle, thoughtful image – voted in as a man of intellectual passion and well-articulated self-doubt. Does he really spend his Tuesdays shuffling through a deck of macabre “baseball cards”, confidently picking out a weekly kill roster? And why do chief executives suddenly sleep with their secretaries?
These recurring “shock” headlines have a certain endearing innocence about them, like a toddler who always hides in the same cupboard during hide-and-seek and still expects us to be surprised.
We shouldn’t be. It does seem odd that a new desk placard and a few more emails to send every day can turn someone from Tim Canterbury into David Brent. But the trouble is that power is also a feeling, and feelings affect the way people think. When we take stock of someone’s perspective on the world and make them president of the United States, we forget that we are also going to make them feel like the president of the United States. And that’s a pretty perspective-skewing emotion.
According to neuroscientists, the main psychological effect of giving someone a load of power is that it makes them less empathetic. The further they climb, the smaller and fuzzier everyone looks below.
A recent experiment illustrates the point. A Northwestern University psychologist called Adam Galinsky asked a group of participants to recall past experiences where they had felt powerful, and a second group to remember feeling powerless. Primed with these feelings, they were asked to draw the letter E on their foreheads. The “powerful” group drew the letter from their own perspective – backwards when seen by someone else. The “less powerful” group tended to draw the letter from the point of view of an observer.
Judgement call
The researchers argued that this effect came from the lens-corrupting effects of power, which makes it harder to imagine the world from someone else’s perspective. If we’re in command we don’t care how other people see the letter E. Fuck it, let them see the letter E like we see it. It’s probably better backwards anyway. Look, the English language is an organic, continually evolving entity which… what’s that Gladys? Yep, nuke ‘em. And get me another latte.
Interestingly, judgement of others remains very much intact. An early, similar experiment by the same team showed that more powerful people tended to judge bad behaviour (like misreporting travel expenses) as much more “morally serious”. Yet playing a high stakes dice-rolling game 10 minutes later, they were also more likely to cheat, fudging the numbers to win lottery tickets. The “serious” rules just didn’t apply to them.
So power corrupts, eh? Yes, you bet it does. Absolutely.
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Debating with Jankaas is futile. He will soon turn round and call you 'vermin' or 'scum'.
but sniping at me is worth doing JJJ? on a daily basis no less...
go on, show how brilliant you are, ask me an actual question. you've had literally weeks to compose one.
Wel, Jankoos, I think you need to be exposed for what you are. At the end of the day, you dish it out left, right and centre. Now learn to take it like a man.
still no question, despite me offering to answer any on-topic question from you, for many weeks now, and am still waiting patiently for your question. yet i remain "exposed" as someone who avoids answering questions....
yeah right JJJ, that makes sense.
Whoops...meant to write Jankaas. Mistake.
and i forgive you. for all your obvious faults at least you don't bother to do comedy username spellings.
now, about that searching question you believe i will not ever answer....
....ready when you are dear.
reality check; another day has passed yet JJJ still hasn't managed to ask a question. coward.
I will not debate with someone who called posters inc. myself 'scum' and 'vermin'. Not playing that game. Sorry... dearie.
ah shucks, and there's me thinking you'd finally put me in my place with your superior intellect....lol.
but yes you are scum and vermin for frequently abusing the memory of those annihilated in the Holocaust just to score petty points on blogs. but i see that you've not done so for a few weeks, so i guess i did manage to get through that thick skull of yours. job done in other words.
And you are a liar too. I moat certainly not abuse t'he victima of t'he Holocaust. On t'he contrary, I spent much time here condemning t'he Holocaust revisionists and deniers infesting these pages. So, dearie, keep taking t'he pills, you scum.
nope, you lie, i don't. fact.
you frequently abuse the Holocaust to score points with, i never ever do. why is this? simple; you are not-so-bright scummy vermin, whereas i have too much respect for those annihilated and can make my point without going all Godwin on other posters i don't agree with. you are not capable of such.
you lose dear. same as it ever was.
Dearie, I sincerely doubt you are Dutch. Your use of phraseology shows a level of English idiom and slang that betrays the lie. You are also vermin.
Ta ta , scum. Nice knowing you Sir Michael.
you being sincere? hilarious.
glad to see you find my linguistic skills so impressive. being fluent in only 2 languages though is not that freaky for many Europeans.
anyway, over to my mother tongue to put you in your rightful place; jammer dat jij zo'n ontzettende domme eikel bent waar ik eigelijk véél te veel tijd aan heb verkwist. het kan mij echt geen vette séculaire reet schelen wie jij nu denkt dat ik ben, maar ook hondsblij dat het jou zo ontzettend irriteerd. tot ziens lamme rukker. volgende keer zal ik lang zo aardig niet zijn....
you posted earlier today that my suggestions have; "....to an extent been done..."
which would make my suggestions a little pointless, so let's see them again, keeping in mind you think this has already been happening. "...to an extent..."
i wrote; "we should do is cease killing, withdraw our armed forces immediately from these conflicts, provide financial aid via independant agencies, encourage economic activities, and at the very least commence talks with those we are in conflict with."
so this has all been done? let's check that list then;
1) cease killing? nope, still going on, see drones.
2) withdraw our armed forces? we have had armed forces in that region for decades and decades. they're still there.
3) independent financial aid? the worst thing about the 2nd Gulf War was how totally unprepared and unplanned the rebuild was. aid wasted in the billions, army assistance ever present, hardly independent.
4) economic growth? see 3)
5) talks? for many years the West refused to meet officially with their 'enemy', only very recently are routes being opened.
in other words Peter, we have done everything but what i suggest. to imagine that we've had a jolly good go but somehow it just isn't quite working is not reflected in the recent history of this region. and it's not like i invented those suggestions either. they've been common currency for decades, but the Hawks squawk loudest. so to the "extent" they've been tried we may as well not have bothered. literally not bothered.
and as for killing terrorists? i remain of the position that assassination is the wrong tactic. certainly by drone. face to face had at least a modicum of dignity about it. the idea that we are forced to dive down into the moral gutter just because a tiny group of badly armed extremists like it down there is illogical, and makes us look like hypocritical cowards. there is a price for true freedom, and that includes risk, including risk of harm from terrorists.
if there are questions you feel i've dodged then pls rephrase them and i will answer.
I am content to let your replies 'speak for themselves' so to speak. I rely on readers here to have kept up with the news over the past dozen years, hopefully more.
You did not agree nor disagree as to whether those claims (not by you) that I labelled as lies (at the start of this thread) were in your opinion lies.
I'm also puzzled that Sir hasn't tried to come to your rescue.
eh? forget this notion of "readers", this post was aimed at you specifically to stimulate our ongoing discussion. and now you go all coy? weird.
weirder still is that you want some or other "Sir" to contribute? scratch that, apparently i need "rescue" from something or other. what exactly would that be? apart from it now looking like you've been stringing me along i can't see any danger to me or my arguments.
but off you go then, i'll try and remember not to bother with you in the future. don't let the door etc etc etc....
Recall that it was Michael, in case you need reminding. I tend to expect most correspondents to be younger than me, with less, rather than more, senility difficulties.
Besides being unwilling to label as lies obvious ones regurgitated by someone more-or-less on your side, my guess would be that you thoroughly disapprove of the way the USian administration ultimately dealt with the late unlamented Osama, but I'm prepared to be corrected on that.
ah Sir M, yes he was a top bloke. not sure what your point about senility is? you appear to say you have some issues with it, but that's fine. i'll cut you some more slack then.
i have literally no idea what "lies" you keep referring to, though i did ask you to explain what they were in the last day or so. guess you'd forgotten? i'd be glad to answer once you show me the actual question.
and as for Osama, delighted he is dead though as i am 100% against the death penalty i also wish he'd been taken alive. i would have preferred him to have had his day in court, probably The Hague, and forced to spend the rest of his miserable life in solitary confinement. just him and his Koran. i do think that death is the easy way out for murderers, better to force them to live with the consequences of their actions as long as possible.
and as a tactic for proving how the West holds the highest moral ground, i do not support assassination. it's what terrorists do, we are better than that. or so i'd hoped. and you?
My joke is that apparently your senility is worse than mine, since countless times in other places he has been referred to briefly as Sir, and you tagged along with him with even dumber comments than he, so it surprised me for you not to remember the full,glorious name of that deep philosopher.
Furthermore, you turned this from just me making a comment into a thread 'way back' by replying to my comment that a certain other commenter had said 4 or 5 things, all quoted by me, which I brazenly labelled lies, so I guess your forgetfulness is blossoming.
Of course, maybe both are just games to avoid answering embarrassing questions. I enjoy games too!
yes dear, i got your 'joke' and returned it with interest. do keep up.
very brave of you to slag off another poster knowing he is not around to defend himself. and nice to see you hold a grudge for ever and a day. you seem ever so petty and precious.
what else in this mess you put up; i see, after repeatedly asking you what questions i failed to answer, it turns out that you demand i deal with something or other another person posted. you are being ridiculous.
by all means ask me questions, and as i keep proving, i answer them. but go back to my previous post and you will see that you are the one who is not providing answers.
over to you Peter, or, over and out. your choice.
If Sir is that other poster, no, I think he's around; of course he might even be you.
If it's the liar who is the other poster, he is around, but of course cannot answer except to admit his dishonesty. In any case, since you are either too lazy to look it up, or hoping to avoid answering, here are the lies. Now tell us all which of these you think are not lies, and the evidence:
"in each strike scores of civilians are killed"
"the victims of the drone attacks are ..... non-combatants for the most part."
"Israel ..... drops bomb on Gaza whenever its airforce needs target practice"
"drone attacks .... over 80% of the victims were civilain (sic) non combatants"
Going back to your immediately previous posting, wouldn't you say these two statements of yours:
"as for Osama, delighted he is dead"
"i also wish he'd been taken alive"
pretty much directly contradict each other?
Sir's relative coherence is preferable to that.
And one might ask why you would be delighted the al quaeda leader in Pakistan is dead, but think the al quaeda leader in Yemen should not have been killed (by a drone)?
Or do you sort of sometimes like the drones, but right now NS is drowning us daily in anti-drone propaganda which you get sucked in by?
it's now rather clear there is something very wrong with you Peter;
you suspect i may be another person. i am not.
you believe i am obliged to comment and defend the claims of yet another person. i am not. seriously, i am not going to answer on behalf of another, it's a ridiculous demand.
you insist it is impossible to be both pleased OBL is dead, yet would prefer him to have been dealt with properly in court. i'll explain the bleedin' obvious then Peter; the primitive revenge side of me would liked to have throttled him with my own hands, yet, i feel that as a modern liberal democracy governed by the rule of law that we should not assassinate. do you understand now?
i have now made it clear several times that i don't approve of assassination, including by use of drones, as it is illegal, yet you keep asking me if am for or against them. weird. maybe your senility is far more advanced than you imagine, which of course is entirely in keeping with that condition. but there's only so much allowance i am willing to make, so get a grip and stop putting up rubbish for me to review.
Yes, you do, apparently sincerely, answer some questions (though conveniently avoid many others), albeit that your answers are simplistic. That is better than many posters, and so may be given some admiration, even if grudgingly by those who see how wrong you are. Try to keep a lid on the personal insults and more people might consider carefully what you have to say.
I personally prefer not to leave these guys running around the Yemeni desert or Waziristan, figuring out how to kill me when I take the plane to visit my grandmother, meanwhile me pondering and trying to figure out some more civilized way to apply the rule of law and democratic norms to them. But I agree that killing criminals diminishes us all. Had Osama been captured and his vituperations kept restricted to being heard by those with proper access to the rebuttals, I too would be happy to see him permanently incarcerated. But sorry, no koran, and a very, vey narrow cell perpendicular to Mecca. I guess we both have in us the revenge part (not just societal protection and deterrence of others) of legal sanctions for convicted criminals, though even that revenge aspect harms us, just as capital punishment does ..
well, seems like we're done Peter, and almost seeing eye to eye.
one thing though; "Try to keep a lid on the personal insults..."
but you can insult me whenever the fancy takes you? i don't think so. ttfn
Try also to distinguish the negative labelling of a person from the negative labelling of ideas.
gosh, is that so now. so you were not suggesting i was senile or dumb a mere 2 days ago, it was my "ideas"....?
pull the other one Peter.
pls do stop digging. i only insult others once they've insulted me. and when they stop, so do i. just ask JJJ, Coleridge, John Cheese, Buckskins, Julia Harris, Frederick etc etc (you get the 'type' of person i rub up the wrong way)
Coward.
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There you go again: deflecting and projecting.
Do pass on regards to Arminius and Sir Michael.
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hey jankers: It's like Jack Nicholson says: "you want me on that wall, you NEED me on that wall"! Your small country needs to contribute cash, troops & arms @ the big table before you get any tangible say so. It's not easy being the world's policeman. There will always be many whiners who don't lead, including you. Just shut the pie hole & appreciate the protection. Who do want Russia? China? Iran? Venezuela? Please... The Organizer without real job experience has found out being CEO of the globe ain't that easy & that old Bushie faced some tough choices. Maybe cyberwar can be where all this goes eventually-- a clean war! Who da thunk it?
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I wish they'd deploy these in Bradford or Tower Hamlets
Godfather Obama is a war criminal. We are 5 years from MIDNIGHT: Since 1970 the Pentagon has been working to achieve a disarming first strike capability. With the US missiles in Eastern Europe it will be operational by 2018. Of course, this leads to Launch On Warning by 2017. Missile engineer Bob Aldridge-www.plrc.org-resigned and wrote The Counterforce Syndrome as a First Strike Capability is suicidal.
You people talk the biggest load of anti American BS I have ever seen. I guess you figure the more often you repeat your idiotic pronouncements, you and other clowns are more likely to believe it. Neither the Russians or Chinese can come close to the United States military for professionalism and technology. They are both at least 30 years behind. Of course you lot are on par with Albania or some other backward country. We will hunt down and kill any threat to us and our security. Any country, any place, at any time of our choosing, and there ain't a darn thing you pinkos can do about it.
While I agree that America is better off to lead the world, that doesn't mean that it is because they are better than others, but perhaps the alternatives are just downright horrible. Russia, China ? Yea
But seriously, your comment regarding the "backward Albania", really ? Albania is the only country in the world that remains staunchly pro-American, regardless of what America does. Bush was greeted there like Messiah, while on his way to Albania he was pretty much hiding all the time under tight security in Rome and other places. Jeez, you people have a tendency to alienate even your friends. Many countries are not there yet technologically for a host of reasons that you might not even care, but that doesn't mean that you can dismiss and talk down to whoever you please. Grow up, this stupid comment just proves the point of the article.
Hunt down and kill? LOL, you can't even win wars against a bunch of rag tag guerrillas as in Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan. So you prefer the myth of killing innocents and maybe--maybe--a terrorist (your designation, so it's all right then). Don't worry, you'll soon find another lovely war to destroy another country so that you can continue to believe in your false superiority, as always. And here's a big one for you--the US did not win WW II and could never have won it without the great sacrifice of the "pinko" Russians!
i am delighted to see you are such a fan of Obama. Buckskins the Democrat, who'd have thunk it..?
If you've got a weapon why not use it. After all, the US used nuclear weapons on Japan and in the early part of the Cold War raced to produce enough 'nukes' to bomb the USSR back into the Stone Age(Old).
There's a book somewhere which advises the unwary that 'things bite back'! And what's this. More game-players than pilots.
Seems as if the US has given up trying to match the Russian and Chinese Air Forces and their manned(includes men and women) flying machines.
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Obama says he'll kill any terrorist threat to the States anywhere in the world. Does this also include the UK? Or, is there a "no fly/no kill" agreement with Cameron?
No need for such an agreement. His boys will inform MI6 or whoever, and those threatening will become inoperative, though likely not dead, so the threat will not exist. And you may be glad to be living in a relatively civilized part of the world, where you are pretty certain not to be killed by the US military, nor even for expressing views about religious topics, though that is slightly less certain. I'm assuming that MBRECKER does not reside in Pakistan.
In most parts of the world children learn the alphabet by association letter A with "Apple" or something innocent. In parts of the world children learn the alphabet by reciting A is for AK-47 and D is for "Drone". USA has emerged as the world largest and most determined practitioner of "play station warfare" in which operators sitting in gaming consoles in Fairfax, Virginia, determine who should live and who should die in parts of the non-white world--particularly Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan. While George W Bush started using drones to target al-Qaeda operatives, it was the present President Barack Obama who expanded the scope and intensity of drone attacks. Not a week passes without a drone attack and in each strike scores of civilians are killed and USA has no answer for the large scale destruction of human lives it is causing in parts of the non-White world. The rhetoric of Islamic Terrorism is sometimes deployed to obscure the fact that the victims of the drone attacks are non-white, non-combatants for the most part.
Now there are people who argue that drone attacks are a variant of "targetted assasinations" and Israel is known to have used this method. In the case of Israel we can say that there are mitigating circumastances and even targetted assasinations are launched only after the identity of the chosen victim has been firmly identified. In the case of Israel there has been only one case of mistaken identity so far and Israel uses its field operatives to carry out the strikes. To the best of my knowledge Israel has not used drones though it drops bomb on Gaza whenever its airforce needs target practice. So I ma making out a distiction between targetted killings ordered by the State and massive, extensive and non discriminatory killing by drones. The US constitution does not empower its Commander-in-chief to order the killing of human beings on the presumption that they are "Islamic terrorists". In fact pre-emptive attack is explicitly outlawer by International law. So far nearly 3,000 persons have been killed by drone attacks and over 80% of the victims were civilain non combatants. USA has a term for such casualities" Collateral damage.
USA has been less than honest in its public statements about the casualities of drone warfare. All males from 1 year to 100 years are counted as "terrorists" and by this ingenous calculation declares to the rest of the world that its drones have largely killed terrorists. In fact if USA kills terrorists by the truck load no one will complain, least of all this blogger. However, the vast majority of those killed happen to be combatnats. In fact, George W Bush was far more circumspect in his use of drones and he ordered during the course of 8 years less than a dozen strikes. Now Barack Obama has extended the definition of drone warfare to include suspicious pattern of activity. This expansion in the definition of the policy has resulted in several social gatherings being targetted. The mountain people of Waziristan and Afghanistan being a rumbustious lot often fire their weapons in the air as a sign ofsocial acceptance. This kind of exuberance has often led to the wedding celebrations being targetted. The result large scale death and a devastated society. And Barack Obama had critisised precisely the drone strikes of President Bush during his campaign and now it appears that Obama is Bush on steriods as David Miller observed.
Drone warfare has extended the powers of the US president to each and every part of the world and no one is safe. The lack of accountability in the execution of drone warfare is another disturbing feature. A group of middle level NIA operatives prepare a list of potential targets and there is absolutely no Congressional or political scrutiny over the entire process. I request the US Congress to hold special hearings on Drone Warfare and let the Obama Administration explain to the American people the guidelines on the basis of which targets are delected and the political oversight, if any on the actual process of carrying out the attacks. The drone warfare has turned into a publicity bonanza for the al-qaeds and its affiliates because with each strike the number of potential recruits keeps rising.
"in each strike scores of civilians are killed"
There we have a straightforward lie.
"the victims of the drone attacks are ..... non-combatants for the most part."
Another one.
"Israel ..... drops bomb on Gaza whenever its airforce needs target practice"
Once again.
"drone attacks .... over 80% of the victims were civilain (sic) non combatants"
This would partially show me wrong on the first one above, but I do not believe you have credible source(s) for this, nor for any of the above, called lies by me. If you do have such sources, by all means provide them.
"the al-qaeds ..... with each strike the number of potential recruits keeps rising"
Do you have any proof at all of actual recruit numbers correlating to strikes? Or are you stating as true that which you wish to be true, rather than what actually is true? Did Hitler get more recruits volunteering every time the Allies scored a victory?
@Peterr
just curious if you think it a defensible tactic to label all males killed in drone strikes of military age as combatants by definition?
No, jankaas, I do not think it is. If you read what I wrote carefully enough, you will see that I did not claim that. Exactly how would you define who is and who isn't a combatant in this context? Do you think it is easy?
You should also look at the more recent graphic by NS. Since you clearly read NS all the time, I expect you regard NS as reasonably honest. You will see that the graphic backs me up on at least the 1st and 4th lies which I claimed the previous poster posted.Why didn't YOU say they were lies? Your comments are often inciteful, but also quite one-sided in some cases I think, though that refers to too many earlier things to really get into a lot. To be brief, what many who are worried about drones seem to wish is that:
(1) the West should do much more to convince people who are susceptible that radical violent Muslim fundamentalism is a mistake. One could hardly disagree with that; and
(2) in the meantime nothing should be done at the source to try to forcefully head off attacks in the West by violent Muslim fundamentalism. Many things which have been done, particularly by Bush, certainly the whole Iraq war, and much of the attempts to change Afgahnistani society, definitely were and are mistakes. But, the blanket advocacy of (2), I cannot agree with. As long as we are not being lied to in an exceptionally serious way, the drone campaign is not, in my opinion, also such a mistake.
Are you an advocate of both (1) and (2), or only of (1)?
look Peterr, i just asked you a simple question, that was all. and you provided a straight answer; no.
there is something rotten at the heart of this troubling tactic; 1 single man decides who lives and who dies. Obama is briefed using intelligence reports, a list is made of those who are apparently at the head of terror cells, and Obama selects targets for drone strikes.
now if only it were that simple; take out only those that are guilty of international terrorism. yet there is no trial. just an execution. that troubles me as it runs counter to just about every tenet of a liberal modern democracy where the rule of law stands over the wishes of those in charge. no matter how 'noble' those wishes might be, no man stands above the law.
and exactly because it is nigh on impossible to ensure that those in the vicinity of the 'known' terrorist are not innocent civilians Obama has 2 options; 1) accept that many civilians will die alongside the target, or, 2) label all the adult males who also die as enemy combatants to make things look less awful.
so again Obama makes a decision as judge, jury and executioner. this is plain wrong i hope you agree? so it's not about being lied to or not, it's about acting in accordance with the law.
and in answer to your questions i see drone attacks as just about the worst way to do (1) though of course we should persuade people to choose peace rather than take to violence. i can't answer number (2) as it's not a clear question. sorry.
I take your points as having some validity. However thismatter has nothing specifically to do with drones. It has 'always' been within his power (1) to send troops to try to do the job (as was done with Bin Laden), (2) to send B-52s to do the job (presumably with much worse effects on the innocent---so one wonders where all the sudden concern about drones per se comes from), (3,4...) to etc. etc.
The precise chains of command within US politics and military are everybody's business of course, not just the USians. But, given the present spread of persons elected to US senate and congress, I have little doubt that they would favour killing a whole lot more people than Obama does, and may be largely supported by the US public. They would of course be much less effective in reality, other than killing more 'civilians', however you define the latter.
One irrelevant, except humorous to me, point is that in my last reply to you I misspelled "insightful" as "inciteful'. Hopefully there's no hidden psychological aspect to that!
the only point that is of any relevance is that Obama's behaviour is at odds with International Law and a progressive modern liberal democracy. and as he is still viewed as the Leader of the Free World this is a shocking thing to behold.
i think your argument that it could be so much worse is equally wrong, for the exact same reasons. when we corrput our principles we become corrupt, and can't serve as an example to other nations.