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Churches can now conduct civil partnerships, but should they even be allowed to conduct weddings?

The current legal situation around marriage and civil partnership is incoherent.

The current legal situation around marriage and civil partnership is incoherent.

Since 5th December, under the Marriages and Civil Partnerships (Approved Premises) (Amendment) Regulations 2011, religious bodies in England and Wales have had the right to register same-sex civil partnerships as well as religious weddings, should they wish to do so.

This doesn't mean that same-sex couples have had the right to bang on the door of their local parish church and demand that the vicar conduct a civil union ceremony. Quite the opposite, in fact. The Church of England has made it clear that it has no plans to avail itself of the provisions. No Anglican clergy, however liberal or enthusiastic at the prospect, will be entitled to conduct civil partnerships. And I'd guess the likelihood of the Roman Catholic Bishops Conference repudiating the Pope by signing up to the scheme is vanishingly small. Some believers may have better luck. Liberal synagogues are said to be keen on the measure, the Quakers have already signed up, and the United Reformed Church has promised to consider the matter in July.

It should be clear, then, that the government has bent over backwards to ensure that religious bodies are not compelled to endorse civil partnerships, even to the extent of making life difficult for clergy who, left to their own devices, would like to do so. Yet an Evangelical Tory, Baroness O'Cathain (pronounced "Cahoin"), today forced a House of Lords debate on the issue. Her motion, if passed, would have cancelled the new regulations. In the event, she withdrew it before it reached a vote. Perhaps the tone of the debate had led her to expect a heavy defeat. More likely, in getting the subject debated she had already achieved her aim.

It's not surprising to find Lady O'Cathain's name associated with today's move. A former director of the Barbican Centre ennobled by John Major, she has long had a reputation in the Lords as a campaigner for traditional and religious values. In 2004 she attempted to have civil partnerships excluded from her native Northern Ireland (her intervention, it is rumoured, led to her departure from the board of British Airways after Stonewall threatened a boycott). The same year she opposed the legal recognition of sex changes on the grounds that "the basic proposition of the Bill is mistaken. A man cannot become a woman. A woman cannot become a man".

She also mounted a rearguard attempt in 2008 to save the ancient crime of blasphemy, on the grounds that "as long as there has been a country called England it has been a Christian country, publicly acknowledging the one true God."

Her legal worries about the impact of the new regulations are almost certainly groundless - although to be fair their drafting is sufficiently obscure to allow lawyers to have led one of Britain's most distinguished judges, Baroness Butler-Sloss, to admit during the debate that she had some difficultly understanding them. But in any case, today's debate was mostly about putting down a marker.

What really frightens campaigners of Lady O'Cathain's mindset is the government's desire to legalise full-fledged gay marriage. The current distinction between (exclusively heterosexual) marriage and (exclusively homosexual) civil partnership may be largely an artificial one but it does have significant cultural and religious implications. Many gay couples want to be allowed to call themselves married. Some heterosexual couples would prefer to live without the historical baggage of the word. To offer both types of partnership to every sort of couple seems both liberal and logical.

But not without difficulty. As long as the two are distinct, churches and other religious organisations that offer marriage can legally do so only to heterosexuals; and if they decline to offer civil partnerships to gay people they will not be available to heterosexuals, after all. There will be no discrimination involved, at least not a discrimination that would engage the 2010 Equality Act.

But as soon as marriage is open to all regardless of sexual orientation (and perhaps civil partnership too) this position becomes much harder to sustain. So too does the current distinction between civil weddings and those conducted in a church or other religious building. Something will have to give. Either marriage (and civil partnership) registration will have to become a purely civil matter, with religious bodies free to offer blessings afterwards if they so desire (that being, after all, no concern of the state). Or else, conversely, the state should remove itself from the marriage business entirely and leave it to churches and other voluntary associations to conduct ceremonies and offer pieces of paper to their members that have no more than internal or spiritual relevance. In that case the legal registration of relationships would become a purely administrative matter.

However unfounded Baroness O'Cathain's fears in this particular instance, she's right to note that the current legal situation around marriage and civil partnership is incoherent. The source of the trouble, though, is something of which she presumably approves: the role played by churches and other religious bodies in conducting and registering legally binding marriages. However normal it may seem for people to get married in church, in reality the whole process is a confusion of the proper spheres of religion and the state no less than the presence of bishops in the House of Lords.

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Rosamond's picture

I, as a practising Christian in the Free Church, definitely think that two people of the same sex should be allowed to get married, or at least get a civil partnership, in church. Marriage is making a commitment to another person. Getting married in church is making a commitment to another person before God and involving him in a big event in one's life. I do not think that homosexuals should be deprived of this simply because of their sexual orientation. If God is a big part of their lives, I do not have any problem at all with them getting married church. In fact, if I ever met a serious Christian gay couple, I would encourage them to.

Keir's picture

Can you believe your eyes?

Keir's picture

So would one have to be a member of a church or other voluntary association in order to get married?

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David's picture

@J Unit CYP UK: The point is that the State allows vicars to 'marry' same-sex couples, but it also allows religious bodies to opt out and to prevent such ceremonies on their premises. This is precisely what the CofE has just done, meaning no vicar can perform a civil partnership ceremony in a CofE church.

swatantra's picture

Civil Partnerships should only tbe carried out in Civic Buildings, as the term applies.

Ian5's picture

Can a church of any form actually register a marriage? I know its going back 30 years, but my wife and I had to go through a small civil ceremony in advance of a planned church wedding because there was a threatened work to rules by the registrars department of the local county council. I'd always thought the signing of the register was a civil act requiring a registrar be present. Was this due to location then? ( small village Methodist chapel)

Ellie's picture

Okay, let's turn it around, should the state be allowed to conduct weddings? What exactly are they for? Would it be better not to turn all civil weddings into Civil Partnerships where the rights and responsibilities of the contractual parties and the third contractual party (the state) are laid out and agreed to eg in respect of pension, spousal support and child support. Why stop there, why refer to 'love and respect' in the vows, what relevance do they have? After all, feelings can't be proved can they? There a matter of faith and belief, so that can't be allowed. And instead of witnesses lets have two lawyers sign the partnership contract to make sure its all above board.

Sounds wonderfully progressive doesn't it?

Nixon is Lord's picture

The Puritans refused to be married in church-even their own churches. They thought that marriage should only be a civil arrangement.
Whether or not your Established church wants to agree with them...

zinoviev's picture

In France, I think I'm right in saying, mayors conduct all marriages. Religious ceremonies are an optional extra, nothing to do with the state.

I'm sure Boris would do a splendid wedding.

DG's picture

In English Law there is no such thing as religious marriage. The most ancient (13th century) form of marriage - and until the 19th century - the only form of marriage in England is in Church after Banns. Couples still have a legal right to that marriage in their parish churches.

If you would like the Government to ban churches from marrying people in the eyes of the law then there must be a good reason for doing so. I suspect that Mr Cameron will consider such a fight not worth having, and he is right.

Keir's picture

There is not a single syllable in Old Testament or New, the professed basis of the CoE, that justifies Christian wedding ceremonies. This religious practice is an overhang from mediaevalism, when 'church' and state were conjoined.

The state recognises marriage, though it's increasingly uncertain why it does so, and homosexuals may be fighting a battle that has few possible benefits. The real role of marriage imv is the stable nurture of future citizens, and parents and the state have responsibilities in that nurture. Now if homosexuals are to have children by adoption, is this liable to be problematic? Nobody knows.

J Unit CYP UK's picture

If some vicars want to marry gay couples the state should not stop them.

Reginald-Fah-fah's picture

It should be at the vicars and their flocks discretion.

J Unit CYP UK's picture

@David It's a shame then that the CofE does not allow individual vicars to decide whether they want to marry gays or not.

Kitchen Benchtops's picture

The state should remove itself from the marriage business entirely and leave it to churches and other voluntary associations to conduct ceremonies and offer pieces of paper to their members that have no more than internal or spiritual relevance. Very well said.

Keir's picture

Those who believe that homosexuals can marry can take the principled decision to graciously part with those who disagree.

intelfam's picture

The state got involved in marriage when the Norman's invaded. The point is not the actual marriage, but the registration of it. Normans (and then the church) were obsessed with property and the devolvement of it. To control marriage was to control ownership of land and estates and control of who could own and entail the property. The churches' involvement came through their massive, pre-Reformation, interest in estates and land. "Marriage" in church is a hold-over from those days when a vicar was (and remains) also the registrar. There is now no reason to continue this dual role for vicars (or, in the case of Quakers) registering officers (they have no ministers). We should finish the Reformation, marriage (if wanted) is the function of the state and blessings (if wanted) can be provided by whatever religious body you would like.

Sir Michael's picture

Yes. They should.

This question is as equally bizarre as "should gay people be allowed to marry?". Of course they should. To tell two people they can't make that commitment to each other due to someone elses personal distaste of something or other connected with it is pure bigotry.

Likewise, telling two people they can't get married in a church, when they both want to, because it doesn't sit well with you is just an example of your bigotry.

You can't have it both ways. Religious freedom or not?

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