It amazes me how from an article which talks about our direct/ indirect support for a traitorous and torturous Kingdom some commenters only conclude with an "are you calling us animals" view… which for some reason seems to trigger the patriotism card.

I think regardless of whether the country or its occupants were Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Atheists etc, the very fact that we are more than happy to support such a country knowingly ignoring/ evading how the people are abused, tortured and controlled is a little disappointing... but expected.

We'd all love to to think we were better than that (some actually do) but it seems as "humanitarian" and "peaceful" as we like to think we are.. Were really not **shock**.

At the end of the day we are just supporting our own interests. We really don't care if it's at the expense of others. The only time it becomes a problem is when we are not benefiting. Then those very same people become abusive, disgusting and downright evil dictators who must be stopped **obviously** because were caring like that.

Bahrain is a strategic ally for operations in the middle east to help thwart from what I understand "the evil people there" **sarcasm** yet we are more than happy to hold hands with those autocratic, oppressive leaders WHOM WE CONTROL.

So yes, interesting read, and although I wouldn’t say it was pointless, arguably it is useless. I mean since when has out government actually listened to us and not gone to war, or not traded with dictators lol :)

It takes guts to post here when you are semi literate. I have tried several times to make sense of the first post by Agoodword. To return to the article by Mehdi Hassan. Why arent the ongoing crimes in Bahrain filling our TV screens every evening ? Why the selective outrage? Is it because the US bases it's 5th Fleet in Bahrain?

Bobby the shoe don't demean yourself by taking mark as your hero. Calling mark a hero only devalues the currency of a hero. The Syrian men women and children fighting the ASAd regime knowing they might die are heroes.

Heard the guy many times, nothing but a charlatan and hate monger. You can't see this of course, your all star struck.

To Agoodword,

Mark Steyn is an intellectual giant. A hero, let there be no doubt.

This is a man who stands up for the Britsh Empire, for western liberalism AND against crazy Islamic paraphernalia such as the Hijab.

Mark Steyn is a wonderfully talented writer. As I wrote above, be sure to watch him on next week's "Q and A". It's on the ABC in Australia. Worth watching.

When Western Civilisation sinks into the sand, we will realise that we were wrong to dismiss the warnings from people like Mark Steyn and Mad Mel Phillips.

Bobby the Shoe

Western civilisation will fall, and I say that with some trepidation. But why blame Muslims. Civilisations come and go, they transform and mutate. It's the way of the world to fight it is a loosing battle.

The problem with steyn is that the natural flow of history with its many interruptions is blamed on an external enemy, muslims. Why doesnt he blame the west.

He is no different than the muslim who blame the west for all their problems when the truth is far closer to home, muslims themselves.

Stayn is a scaremonger. Others, far more intelligent have analysed the flow of history without the same demagoguery

The double standards of the British government when it comes to Bahrain and Saudi Arabia are plain for all to see. The BBC has simply ignored the military clampdown going on in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia and chosen instead to wheel out high minded journalists(self appointed I might add) such as John Simpson and Jim Muir to trot out the usual anti Assad invectives.

Do Muslims live like animals ??

That is the question.

Why should we care about the people / cattle in Bahrain ?

They live like animals, don't they ????

What's the point of bombing the Muslims of Bahrain back to the Stone Age when they already live in it ?!?!

BRING ON THE ISLAMIC REVOLUTION !!

Bobby the Shoe

@Booby the Shoe,
Oh Dear!!
Bombing them all, really thats all you can say?
Why did you bother!!!

Bobby the sand yes methaphorically some Muslims do just like some from other human groups.

You really should expand your reading list I mean mark steyn your hero no wonder you can't get past first base. Rigid minds find it hard reconciling what appears to be conflicting.

You've said it all. These fools pay tens of millions to PR companies to make them look good. Why don't they just start behaving like an ethical government? A hell of a lot cheaper and everyone, including them, wins. They are caught up in their own spin.

Dear Bobby the Shoe,

Mehdi also believes, God honored the children of Adam and God breathed his spirit into Men.

You cannot take statements that are specific in their intent to a general level.

Just as sentences follow grammatical rules human discourse must be understood through rules.

Not trying to get complicated or make excuses for Mehdi, but I believe we have to try harder to understand the intent of why people say what they say if we say we are sincere.

If sincerity and the pursuit of truth is not a value you hold to high esteem than I guess all what I’m saying is rubbish and you can stop reading my post.

But if you take them seriously then you have to agree that sometimes the most innocuous statements can be taken out of context. Take what Broness tonge said today, a storm in tea cup.

you'll also agree that biologically, we humans are animals to argue otherwise is to impose an interpretive process that takes man out of the animal kingdom and turns him into another being, a human.

The interpretive process is an ideology it has no connection to the physical world. whether you call it religion or humanism its all the same.

Each and every one of these ideologies hold the proposition that human beings that have no respect for moral and ethical codes, abide by no progressive values and behave contrary to the lofty ideals and moral virtues humans are capable of are living a sub human life. Unless humans live by a code outside their physical necessities they are metaphorically living the life of an animal.
This is a very specific exhortation from the Isalmic value system, and exists within a discourse that tries to encourage humans to reach their full potential. It doesn’t mean that their failure to do so nullifies the fact of their en-nobleness and sanctity on a general level.

To read anything more into such a random statement which he has tried to explain countless times is a gross misunderstanding.

Then again Mehdi is a closet extremist, you might say, who is forced by his faith to hide his true motives.

But have you stopped to consider the innumerable explicit statements about his position on this as opposed to one ambiguous video taken out of its proper context and discourse.

Anthony, you sure you'r ok. I'm surprised you made it here to vent so much hate and anger.

sounds like you're irked more by the fact that someone who is supposed to be racially and religiously inferior to you is more articulate and more intelligent than you could ever hope to be. And he has a job in respectable journal unlike you.

I mean no rational person would actually react to a short video in that way. no rational person could muster so much hate over such a thing, unless of course you have a certain disdain already in your mental DNA.

If i really hated someone and i knew there was no way to do anything, id stop hating them, becasue the hate itself saps your mind and energy. If you hate him so much is he really worth your attention.

i feel sorry for you man, i know you dont want me to feel sorry, but i do, i cant help it cos you are so so gone.