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The grieving father talks to the New Statesman about tougher sentencing, and his Islamist past.
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@ Julia- surely after the riots, the looting and the deaths, we all need to question why it happened, what now and what we can do to avoid it from happening again. The father of one of the murder victims has every right to give his thoughts on this as do you and others. Your first post seemed to deny him this right and mocked the respect many people have shown him. Why? (Muslim?)
What has Jordan's punishment got to do with Islam? In Islam for such a punishment you would end up in hell fire!
You are one confused lady.
Just like Britain doesn't apply its rules according to the Bible. Nor does Jordan apply its rules entirely by the Quran. Your ignorance is quite shocking.
Please read about TRUE ISLAM instead of trying to mock everyone.
@ John, your letting your emotions cloud your intellect and your gushing post is abit sick. Its typical of how certain people view the bereaved and hold them on some kind of pedestal. Losing a Son doesn’t make Mr Jahan a saint and doesn’t mean his every action, word or reaction holds greater validity that it did they day before or over anyone else’s.
I remember when a friend lost a baby due to cot death, terrible, terrible thing. I couldn’t imagine how distraught they must be, the pain? the suffering? how could they deal with it? That’s the point we start to imagine, but cant truly understand so just put a halo around them for dealing with it.
From the outside people start to concoct that this unbelievable feat of having to deal with something so terrible - but people loose loved ones every day... When we visited the couple, they seemed remarkably composed... but how? were they saints sent from above?
I certainly didn’t want to intrude on their grieve any more than necessary, I didn’t want to patronise them by saying ‘your being so strong, your amazing’ as what do I know about how they are feeling really.
I certainly didn’t want to enter into a diatribe about their thoughts and feeling, is it really bad? On a scale of 1-10 its a 10 right? O then start asking their advice on the health service and whether enough research has gone into understand cot death and whether the current government gives it enough momentum.
In reality people loose loved ones every day and go through a grieving process, all different circumstances, leave the guy alone and let him try to return to some kind of reality without all the bullshit everyone is trying to pin on him.
500,000 iraqi children killed? Your making it up...this is the sort of dangerous game that is happening. Stupid idiots on the left or muslims just chucking figures at the Iraq war or at Israel.
Iraq body count has the civilian deaths at between 102,218 - 111.732
Most Iraqi civilian violent deaths during 2003–2008 of the Iraq war were inflicted by Unknown perpetrators, primarily through extrajudicial executions that disproportionately increased in regions with greater numbers of violent deaths. Unknown perpetrators using suicide bombs, vehicle bombs, and mortars had highly lethal and indiscriminate effects on the Iraqi civilians they targeted. Deaths caused by Coalition forces of Iraqi civilians, women, and children peaked during the invasion period, with relatively indiscriminate effects from aerial weapons.
So you see most of the deaths were deliberately caused by Muslim on Muslim unlike the coalition that were always targeting combatants.
Look you foolish people, Medhi is using this guy to score political points against the government, cant you see it?
"in a rebuke to the Prime Minister's call for a "fightback" and "crackdown" against the antisocial elements of British society, Jahan says there is no need for "more stringent" laws:
Excuse my french but who the fuck is he telling anyone how stringent laws should be???
His thoughts are one thing, but the interview is asking him specific questions about political things he shouldn't be asked about.
He is being held up as a role model by the media but we don't know him?
He has shown he has a dodgy past and maybe more stuff will emerge about him, how will you feel if we find out he has a criminal record, will his views all of a sudden become not so palatable?
I don't want to be given a political sermon by someone who son has died, it doesn't qualify him to be a leader or dictate in an intellectual capacity the way the country should be run.
Disenfranchised youths who saw an open window opportunity to run amok and take what they could.
You cant stop people rioting as much as you cant stop people being murdered it part of society and human nature.
All you can do is deal with it.
Noting these subsequent reports or think tanks now will tell us anything we didn't know already.
@ Julia Harris. But hasn't he got the same right to express his views as you have and are doing on this website. This is called democracy, which even applies to those you disagree with.
In any case, it is important to give space to his view on the way Cameron is exploiting the losses of people like himself and others to promote a political agenda - much in the same way you're accusing Mehdi of doing.
You sadly and very angrily closed mind is not going to contribute to the process of understanding we need. Indeed, you clearly believe there is nothing to understand.
Tariq Jahan is truly a giant amongst pygmies. A man of vision and of a very forgiving. A credit not only to himself, the Muslim community but to humanity. The man’ very humble nature and opinions in a tragic time for his family and himself are amazing. The man deserves to be knighted.
This man has behaved with such dignity in the face of the loss of his beloved son. I cannot understand why Cameron did not meet him when he visited the Midlands because without his actions there would have been much more unrest in Birmingham. I lived in the West Midlands (Wolverhampton) in the 1980s and 1990s before I moved to prosperous Cambridgeshire so I am saddened to see social unrest there again.
Tariq Jahan is an inspiration, for a man to have his son taken away for him and only hours later stand up and urge a whole community of people with words of such wisdom at such a delicate time that; "Blacks, Asians, Whites, we all live in the same community.
Why do we have to kill one another? What started these riots and what's escalated them?
Why are we doing this?
I lost my son.
Step forward if you want to lose your sons.
Otherwise, calm down and go home -Please."
- amazing human being may there be more like him, may we learn from this.
Also i hope the media dont try and eat this man up..his grieving and should be allowed to do so in peace, i have a terrible feeling that they may take advantage of him in his vunerabilty - and after all the praise they gave him - they will break him down - i hope not but some of the comments on here make me think that theres some really heartless people out there.
its actually telling the man not to get sucked in by the hype. and are the 1st countries mentioned post colonial???
Yes JG please dont lecture me about free speech, the point is he being exploited by the media and as said has been given a much larger platform than his credentials allow.
I'm not sad, I'm not angry, just a realist. People riot when they are unhappy or see an opportunity.
Your off to save the world are you??In your tiny lefty mind you have to understand all the facts in great minutiae to enable you too start apologizing and being sympathetic to the rioters and make them into the victim - probably.
You can talk all you psycho babble bullshit but it wont stop rioting again for some other reason...when you least expect it...
Bang em up and let them sweat it out.
p.s..Tariq Jahan didnt just say the words 'calm down - and go home' he actively pursued them - he went out several times telling angry mobs over and over again to stop there foolishness...He thought of other people more than he did for himself by selflessly getting the message across when he had every right not to give a damn about anybody or anything - his son murdered but not even a glimsp of anger was seen from him towards anyone. When the media asked; 'do you have anything to say to the authorities, the government who have watched this situation worsen..and now lives are being lost?'
Tariq Jahan - Haroons Father replied;
" I don’t blame, I don’t blame the government, I don’t blame the police, I don’t blame nobody, I’m a Muslim and I believe in Divine fate and destiny and it was his destiny and his fate and now his gone, and may Allah forgive him and bless him and that’s all I have to say, no more, thank you”.
It takes alot and I respect him so much for it, everything could have been in ruins and more people could have been hurt or worse lost there lives but this man isnt about hate, his a wise man, a good man, a good father, a good heart, a good muslim, a good role model, and in the face a traggic loss, even through the funeral of his youngest son - he held onto his words and not for a second let emotions get the better of him..wow.
Tariq Jahan, we share your tears. May Allah bring comfort to your family, and may He continue to guide you. You are an example to all Muslims in Britain, and to everyone.
Did he mention he was facing charges of road rage GBH dating to July? Yes hes now charged with GBH and is alleged to have broken a fellow drivers jaw and knocked out numerous teeth.
A cynic might say he adopted a face of contrition in August to help him in front of the judge later down the line. Certainly puts all the bullshit about mutual respect & understanding from this man in perspective.
Here here!! Shane
last week he said that his son's death was 'ALLAH'S WILL' - now he admits that privately he has cried and cried and cried.
now if he really really really believed it was the will of ALLAH - he would be dancing and singing and celebrating.
mehdi - your article shows several aspects of of this man´s religious past and present, all of which demonstrate perfectly why religion itself should be bannished to the history books.
THE SOONER THE BETTER !!!
Yes, I did try to warn you not to take this man too seriously...
he father of a Birmingham man killed in a hit-and-run during the riots in August has been charged with assault in connection with an alleged road rage incident.
Tariq Jahan appealed for calm after his son was killed in August's riots
Tariq Jahan, who pleaded for calm after the death of his 21-year-old son Haroon, is accused of breaking a man's jaw and knocking out two teeth in an incident in the Handsworth area of Birmingham on July 6.
"He has been charged with GBH without intent and will appear before magistrates in Birmingham on Monday," a Crown Prosecution Service spokesman said.
Haroon and two other men, Shazad Ali, 30, and Abdul Musavir, 31, died in the early hours of August 10 after they were hit by a car in the Winson Green area of Birmingham.
They were trying to protect homes and businesses from looters and it was feared their murders might provoke revenge attacks.
On Monday, Mr Jahan received a Pride of Britain special recognition award for the compassion, dignity and calm he showed in the aftermath of his son's death
This man is a great example to all of us and someone who I admire hugely for his strength and dignity. I send him my sincere condolensces for his loss, which I cannot begin to fully understand.
He should run for office - if we had people like him in public life our society would be all the richer for it.
With great respect to him and the tragic nature of circumstances surrounding the loss of his son, Tariq Jahan is completely wrong in his assessment of the state Britain is in at the moment.
And a clue to this is in his own past links with HT and islamic fundamentalism. You can't have a dialogue with people with closed minds like HT. Its all very sad.
But thankfully there are more people who think otherwise.
The communities have to look within to see the root causes of their problems; only then can they move forward.
Tariq said what a prime Minster of the people should have said. He also felt that he wasn't important but perhaps this is what we need to get over 2 all ordinary special people whatever their ethnicity etc. WE ARE ALL IMPORTANT.
@flashbuck how about all the murder commited in countries such as IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, PALESTINE etc etc... or the guy from Norway who mowed down 85 children in his blind fear of muslims... I hope your invalidated fear of 'MOSLEMS' does not push you to become like Anders Behring Breivik.
maybe the uneducated ignorant ones might want to get out there do some research rather than sitting here commenting on an article. When's the last time any of you gave to charity? volunteered your time to do some common good? GO TAKE AN ACTIVE STANCE IN YOUR COMMUNITY rather than sitting behind your computer screens arguing with each other.
Mehdi Hasan is a contributing writer for the New Statesman and the co-author of Ed: The Milibands and the Making of a Labour Leader. He was the New Statesman's senior editor (politics) from 2009-12.