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Melanie Phillips's latest outburst against Islam and Muslims is opportunistic and goes beyond the pale.
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As mentioned by others and I think including Kasser, if its not in the Quran it doesn't count.
Hadiths are a series of texts based upon a collection of supposed interviews with people who knew Mohammed, or people who claim to know the people who met Mohammed. Wven with the best will in the world the law of Chinese whispers comes to play and therefore not admissible.
The problem with some Muslims but not all, is that they have placed Hadiths at the same level as the Quran, logically it is not.
Similar issues persist with Christians and Jews with their own religious texts, I say this as a Christian.
I too give to charity, am good to strangers and good all round guy.
I think that the fact that the men who are in jail for this crime being predominantly Muslim is a bit of a giveaway dont you Mr Hasan?
Nobody is claiming that all Muslim men do this but it does not refute the evidence that it is a crime shown to be rife in the Muslim culture.
Muslims need to actively deal with that acceptance of abuse and root it out completely if they do not like the clear association between Islam and child abuse.
You do not need to try to cover it up with dodgy stories and statistics, it is too late for that.
I have lived in an area where this behaviour was consistent with the reported stories and it was definately not white or black men who were acting as peadophiles act.
"THe Beast" USSR in Afghanistan was a good film that I saw the other night again on the telly. It showed we are just the same, that is if without names,
Dillon your link is borked,here it is again...
Muslim men just follow an example of their prophet . Muhammad married Aisha when she was 6 y.o and had sex with her when she was 9 y.o.
It is not only about the Pakistani boys but about supperior approach of the muslims to anybody who isn't one, where a white women is considered to be a trophy for a man, trash, while a white Xtian man who even tried to have a serious relationship with a muslim woman would seriously endanger his and her life.
LOol sorry pepss not much of a religous geeza myself...brought up in a christian family.....i just wanted to see ur reaction coz dis convos gone berrr off topic.. But seriously You guys cant base your opinions or thoughts about another religion just because you heard something bad or searched from google for information....you guys talk about how bad muslims are....i've got so many muslim mates....der peaceful people.....something that missing in society des days. All i say people is that its easy to point fingers at others. Peace out
Whilst the author has an ingrained idea of Islam, there are many Muslims who pertain to their Islamic culture, a sense of debauchery and a different view from the conservative Islamic values. The perpetrators of these acts, and those in the past who have caused acts of terrorism were still Muslim, albeit not the same Islamism others adhere to.
I think both of you have not read the bible!
Bible, Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Quran - El Hijr-verses 26:40 Verily We created man of potter's clay of black mud altered
Therefore according to you, Man being formed from 'clay and black mud' is ludicrous and being fashioned from dust is completely acceptable? I think this exposure of your biased attitude negates everything you have to say!
Both books are probably just to trying describe the fact we are based upon some kind of organic carbon based matter (soil). Which we are by the way.
Harris nothing wrong with googling to find knowledge, you should try it!
If its not white girls being raped, then its, its womens rights, its women worth less than men, its proving rape, its wife beating, its polygamy, its rights for gays, its rights for apostates, its cutting of hands, its Jizya, its martydom, its terror...etc etc etc
All sanctationed in the Koran...common link?
"@ Ian the medina charter states that jew and muslim shall be treated equally... did you miss that bit?”
mt. If you read my post you would understand I did not miss that point, I already knew – however I fail to understand the relevance to the question raised by Mr Hasan.
It’s not a question of arguing like schoolchildren ‘but they did this, but they did that’ to me it’s a question of equal human rights - whether there are attitudes in parts of the Islamic world that denigrate western women – not just saying ‘well that isn’t in the Koran, so it has nothing to do with Muslims’ it’s a question of looking at attitudes/prejudices towards women held in different cultures and asking yourself honestly if these attitudes may have had an effect on the young men’s thinking in this case ?
@mt - these zealots won't understand any rational point not because they're dumb but because they are KNOW what they are doing and have a Strategy. And they are just the branches, ROOT is the preachers of hatred like Robert Spencer, Glenn Beck, Mellanie Phillips, etc, etc, etc, who influence and feed the branches.
My religion tells me to respect and care for my neighbour as a family HOWEVER my neighbour is busy standing by Edgeware Road disguised as moslem and distributing the fake copies of the koran (they titled it the furqan) specifically to the moslems so they can be misquided - this is what their faith allows them to do! And you'll NEVER read this in a mainstream news, bet?
History Lesson 101 for Michael Richards
ooh now what was the British Empire.. lets see Christian and what did they do rape pillage loot behead to conquer new lands, new to the British but not to the cultures and religions already living there.
What were missionaries..yes Christians forcing peopel to become Christian bribing them with food medicine, they could have given without making them convert... if you feel threatened now well you are getting a dose of what you gave out for hundreds of years you just can't take it mate!!! So you think about it...clearly you are so frustrated by your imcomplete life !!! Ha I openly laugh at you. Yours history is full of bloodhed in the name of religion mate you just try to dress it up as being perpetrated by individuals King Henry, Hitler ect .
And Lacnunga or whatever.... why dont you read a translated version of the Quran instead of reading on the internet you are mentally disturbed. And for your FYI Bukhari is the most revolting books, it is where Salman Rushdie stupidly took his information regarding Aisha for Satanic Verses, I felt sorry for him it is a book of fiction.Read up if you can drag yourself away from these nonsense Hadiths which are written by idiots...learn about shia islam.I challenge you !!! This was the true and only Islam before The aliphate was snatched from the house of Ahlulbayt and taken over by despots Yazid, Abu bakr Umar ect these people are probably followed by terrorists and peadophiles, the book Bukhari was written by followers of Yazid who drank and did all those things you accuse Prophet Muhammad of, they tried to discredit him and wanted no Islam. And as for you insulting the Prophet of Islam (Pbu) do your reaserch for yourself stop reading other ignorants verbatim...get educated.Find out how each memeber of hi family was martryed, if he was evil then why did he bother with Islam. I could sit here and say how your Catholic church encourages the rape and constant abuse of young boys.to this day ........we are talking about the Vatican here, pretty powerful organisation,but I'm not I know that no religion supports this but you just need an excuse you know nothing. I'll give you a clue as to which mindset I think you belong to ... whilst working on a case I met a barrister who says to me 'oh your a moslem ...can you eat pizza....? Are you that dumb learn thouroughly about a religion before you label everyone who is a follower..start thinking for yourself. There will always be people who claim to be omething but in the end they are evil thats all , they are human and because they don't want the blame to fall on thm being a failure as a human being they blame or hide behind religion.
In the last week of an election campaign in Oldham, Phil Woolas tried to "get the white folks angry" by inventing Muslim extremists who were "out to get him". His strategy relied on a combination of racism and reluctance by the white working class to support the BNP.
Now we are in the last week of another election campaign in Oldham, and Jack Straw has hijacked an issue that the BNP thought it owned. he uses a combination of racism and the reluctance of the white working class to support the BNP (nobody came to its rally on Saturday, slogan "Our Children Are Not Halal Meat").
This is Labour's master strategy for towns with large Asian minorities. It puts them on the defensive because it is such a monstrous slur that they can't find an adequate response.
Jews had the same problem early last century during the white slavery panic. They too found their votes taken for granted even while being insulted.
@ Nigel Blake
Maybe you should re-read my post? I am saying both are ludicrous.
Yep, both books written between 500 bc and 700ad are definitely trying to say we are based on some kind of organic carbon based matter! lol
Agreed, there does seem to exist a derogatory attitude amongst some of these people towards certain women which is more to do with a sub culture that has a closer affinity with hip hop and MTV Base than religion (despite their own rhetoric), as you well know is shared by others and transcends religion or race.
Derogatory and misogynist attitudes towards women should be attacked but in this instance groups with vested interests (who couldn't care less about women) have jumped on a bandwagon with their own zealot agenda, and as result the REAL reasons and thus the cure, for debauched thinking is wholly missed.
You all need to go back to secondary school and learn about all religions from scratch , all the comments that I have read about gang rapes, swapping slaves by the Prophet Muhammed (Pbuh and his progeny) are absolute rubbish, why don't you take time out and get educated not by the internet and nonsense interpretations but from men of scholar from each religion, well no you wouldn't do that, it might shatter the illusion that all muslims are terrorists, or rapists.
If I were to follow by previous example then all white men Roy Whiting, ect are child molestors white women are the same they supply children to their boyfriends for ex, or to be abused Baby P, why is it that I can see beyond race and religion ?
I am surprised that in this country education was until recently quite easy to access, and growing up I remember the most disruptive, lazy, ungrateful and disrespectful people to turn their noses upto being educated in my school were always white, working class girls!Every single time, to this day I can remember these girls despite having the advantage of having the Correct skin colour, they paid no attention to their education and wasted the schools and my lesson time with their antics. Whats my point ? Well I haven't grown up with a chip on my shoulder, I have followed my religion which is The Shia faith of Islam, I seek knowledge as my faith instructs me to do,I do not follow blindly, I don't need to quote the Quran to you, to say each person is an individual, whatever their supposed religion, their crime can never be justified by their religion, as no religion, and I mean that those true religions whose books have not been altered through time, of which the Quran is the only one, teaches their followers to kill, oppress. And as for you who believe the Prophet of Islam was one of these, you are truly uneducated and probably one of those girls I went to school with, relying on the media and internet to educate you, I feel sorry that you had the chance to learn about other religions but you were too occupied elsewhere. AS for me I am proud to be a british muslim, with a Mashallah wonderful life, great family, job, and I should state that both my brothers follow the path of Imam Ali (A.S) and are fine husbands, fathers and part of british and muslim society. So brother Hasan stop trying to educate those who really are beyond hope !
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The number of Islamophobic comments below the line is depressing if predictable.
For obfuscating and hiding the truth you are depressed and rightly so... it never occured to you to serve the victims of your false religion rather you defend the indefensible... rotten bastard.
So are you telling me that Mohammed had sex with a 9 year old girl. Why?
The problem for young Muslim men in Bitain is that they are trapped in a religion of peculiar prohibitions which prevent them makng close relationships ith members of the indigenous propulation (especially female) and a family system which forbids marrying out. Unable to flow their instincts theyned someone to blame. They cannot blame their religion - this is taboo. They cannot blame their families - this taboo. So they blame the indigenous population and 'racism', and deflowerng ther young women is a form of revenge. (It also incidentally gives a motive for blowing up the nt8ive enemy.
Nothing to do with the Koran, but with a peculiar interpretatin of the Koran by a clani peasant population. In other words it's an ethnic problem. Nothing to do with 'race' which is something quite different.
@ Des Demona
Oh, I see, apologies, I've just read your previous posts you think all belief systems are ludicrous not just one?
Shame, to think the complexity of life was formed from nothing quite randomly the nonsensical approach.
The Jewish Chronicle, in a humorous "How Jewish is Jack Straw" piece found him to be only about 12%.
I wonder whether that 12%, and Melanie Phillips' 100% don't inform their imaginative views of Pakistani/Muslim culture and its supposed attitudes towards white girls.
A shiksa is "easy meat" and a goy is a "kaffir". Is there a particular problem with young Jewish men?
@ Des Demona
Oh, I see, apologies, I've just read your previous posts you think all belief systems are ludicrous not just one?
Shame, to think the complexity of life was formed from nothing quite randomly is the nonsensical approach
@ Nigel Blake
Why is that a shame?
For too long the media has covered up crimes committed by Muslims by using the code word Asian. Understandably non-Muslim Asians are sick and tired of being tarred by the same brush. Even though Jack Straw specifically referred to Pakistani heritage men, many newspapers and TV reports still referred to the Muslim criminals as Asian rather than Pakistani. Isn't it about time that someone did a cost benefit analysis of immigration from Pakistan? Considering that apart from the crimes committed by Pakistanis we also have the added threat of terrorism coming from the same people.
Mehdi would like to the readers to believe that a Muslim sex offender is an anomaly but considering that a Muslim is meant to emulate Mohammed in everything they do and Mohammed married a 9 year old girl as well allowed his followers to rape female captive, I am surprised that Mehdi has the gall to be surprised that his religion is dragged into this case.
Your religion is the crux of your ideology, so yes its to blame.
@mt "do you know what the kufr means?"
It doesn't matter what it means. "Kaffir" has been used for centuries to denigrate, oppress and accuse non-Muslims. That term has no place in civilized discourse.
Well, what a load of racism there is in this thread.
If any of these racist bigots lived in Germany in the 1930's I wonder how many would have joined the National Socialist Party?!?
Those who say that these men do it because of their religion, are speaking nonsence. Of those charged with these offences, few attend a mosque, or can be considered anything other then 'social muslims.'
All criminals have a social/cultural background - the idea that the social/cultural background alone is responsible for their criminality is plain stupidy - or simplicit naivety at best.
As expressed by some posts in this thread - it is not just stupidity, but hatred and bigotry as well.
Sadly I can remember the National Front in the 70's trying to pursuade us that black men were responsible for most sex crimes - now it has moved onto asians.
In the 1930's across much of Europe it was believed Jews were responsible for most prostitution by pimping white women.
Different targets of race hate, but sadly the race hate remains the same.
The sad thing is that these nutters, who post here, really do believe they speak for the majority of British - which is why they say so post after post - but they never present any proof that this is the case.
And of course, if one disagrees with them it is because one is left, muslim, pakistani, liberal etc.....
I suppose when as limited brain cells, name calling is easier then presenting logical arguments!
@ Des Demona
What are bones made of?
Its funny how in jan all these comments focused on muslim gangs, and now we have the situation when several white men and indeed women have been convicted !!!! LOL.
Hello Harris, how are you? Well ... bone is made up of organic and inorganic material as follows:-
The inorganic composition of bone (bone mineral) is formed from carbonated hydroxyapatite (Ca10(PO4)6OH2) with lower crystallinity. The matrix is initially laid down as unmineralised osteoid (manufactured by osteoblasts). Mineralisation involves osteoblasts secreting vesicles containing alkaline phosphatase. This cleaves the phosphate groups and acts as the foci for calcium and phosphate deposition. The vesicles then rupture and act as a centre for crystals to grow on. More particularly, bone mineral is formed from globular and plate structures, distributed among the collagen fibrils of bone and forming yet larger structure.
The organic part of matrix is mainly composed of Type I collagen. This is synthesised intracellularly as tropocollagen and then exported, forming fibrils. The organic part is also composed of various growth factors. Factors present include glycosaminoglycans, osteocalcin, osteonectin, bone sialo protein, osteopontin and Cell Attachment Factor.
And of course, the divine hand of which ever sky god you choose to believe in.
Hope that helps.
Not in favour of free speech, eh?
Well said TTony.
The media need to stop lumping decent people from India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Burma etc etc with these Pakistani morons!
You would think journalists would be educated enough to understand this!! Perhaps they are and just want all brown people to be tarred with the same brush!!
@mt - You are a typical Muslim liar. Muslims constantly bury their head in the sand because they don't like the picture infront of them. It's funny that so many Muslim countries discriminate against non-Muslims by law... yet these aren't the teachings of 'Allah'? Why on earth are they going against the teachings of 'Allah'? The truth is, they're NOT going against the teachings of 'Allah'. Islam is a fascist, misogynist, psychopathic death cult. Just as Muhammad's army was.
We're not falling for your lies, Muslim.
And please, everyone read the interview with one of the grooming victims on the Daily Mail website today. These pedophile Muslim men were driven BY Islam. They gave copies of the Quran to their victims and told them to convert. THAT'S why your 'religion' is to blame, Mehdi.
This is the beginning of the end for Islam in Europe, Mehdi. We don't want it. Just as no Muslim country wants any religion other than Islam taking hold in their country. Islam has no future in Britain, Mehdi. You know this, which is why the left & Muslims are floundering. You're all trying your absolute hardest to cover the truth up. You're trying to convince us Islam is all about peace. But really, Islam stands for homophobia, misogyny, oppression, death and LIES.
We will never fall for these lies, Mehdi. If you think Britain & Europe are "Islamophobic" now, just wait to see the situation in a decade or two time... you won't like it. Trust me.
Derick - "Should have known that you wouldn't have bothered with a factual documentary."
You're denying the Moors conquered Spain by the sword? You're denying non-Muslims were under Muslim rule and had to pay jizya, otherwise they'd face prison/death? Are you serious? All you did was post a link to some Channel 4 documentary and you're trying to come across as though you're a history buff? lol
"Guess you're one of those infamous israeli based blog commentators set up by the regime to troll and knock anything marked as anti israel."
Translation - 'you're just a JEW whose posts do not count'. lol
Yes because that's the only explanation; I just have to be a Jew, right? You people are pathetic.
And Kasser, oh Kasseeeeeer... I'm still waiting for a reply to my response in relation to the issues of 'apostasy in Islam' & how Muslim men are allowed to marry non-Muslim women, but Muslim women are not allowed to marry non-Muslim men.
Why are you having such great difficulty replying to this, Kasser? You've replied to other posts I've made, but you're suspiciously silent when it comes to this... I wonder why that is... lol.... lol..... lol......
"The problem for young Muslim men in Bitain is that they are trapped in a religion of peculiar prohibitions which prevent them makng close relationships ith members of the indigenous propulation"
You Brits have not allowed the immigrants to be assimilated into your culture. They have been made to feel like outsiders even into the Brit born generations. In the US the exact opposite is true of our Muslim immigrants. In fact the majority of them are in the professions and doing well. Your attitude of them being ex colonials and non white has left them alienated. You have already paid a price for that and with the attitudes in the forum and Muslims like Mehdi it can only get worse. Did Enoch have it right after all?
If together as rational minded human beings we can tolerate a persons beliefs then we must all accept that whatever the religion it comes with codes of ethics. In no religion that I am aware of does it encourage gangs, rape, drugs, prostitution or whatever. Therefore it becomes a devisive sidetrack by those writers to stereotype a certain crime(s) with the colour of someone's skin or religion. A crime as defined is a crime and shame and punishment should be handed to those who commit them. Further shame should be brought on them from straying from their religious morals and ethics for they are nothing more than charlatans that hide behind a religion when caught. Wolves in sheeps clothing used to be the saying.
God bless wikipeadia ;)
Why don't mrs dog face philips post about Jewish people killing others for their Organs. Israel Harvesting organs from children. Jewish soldiers cut people up to take their organs .They kill pregnant women
Israel Harvesting Organs in Haiti?
in other words
oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, and phosphorus.....also the elements that is found on earth....maybe God was right
Disingenuous to claim your religion is not involved? The people who do this noisily claim to belong to your religion. You should find a means on making it clear whether and how they do or don't. Till you do that the confusion remains.
Kasser, I can completely see how modern youth culture, and problems associated with deprived inner city areas are related to these crimes.
But can you really say that some Religious or cultural views are not involved at all in creating 'debauched thinking'
some questions for you (or others):
Is this site fair ? http://www.globalwebpost.com/farooqm/writings/gender/rape_fiqh.html
Are men in Pakistan protected from prosecution for rape by Hudood ordinance ?
It also appears tribal law in rural Pakistan sanctions public gang rape as punishment for another family members’ alleged acts – is this true ?
are the ‘Islamic’ rules and human rights violations listed here genuine ?
are these ideas taught in Madrassas ?
is the cultural practice of Hudood in any way related to Islamic or Quranic teaching ?
I'm not sure what you're actually trying to say. Much like followers of Nostredamus, who interpret his sayings how fits best to the circumstances, so religion has followed knowledge. 'We're made of dust' 'We're made of mud' depending on which religion you follow, becomes ' ah yes what of course what they meant was that we evolved from whatever organic material was lying around at the time.'
Doesn't really wash does it? Religion gets dragged kicking and screaming into the progressive world, altering its views to suit only when science proves their position untenable.
@ Robert Harris
Firstly you ignorance has no bounds. Have you ever read the Quran? In fact have you read the Bible?
Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."
Quran Verses 24-2,3 says: "The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication flog each of them with 100 stripes"
What appears to be harsher?
Also his name is 'Kasser' not 'Kassar'.
Are you asking me why am I telling you this or why did he have sex with 9 y.o girl?
I am telling you this coz we Europeans need to know what the religion of ''peace'' is about .
Why does an adult man have sex with a child? Coz he is unwell and do expect the same from his followers. He's their role model, the prophet.
The very same man had 11 wives (some sources say 9) participated in 28 wars, spreading the violence and terror throughout the Arab Peninsula.
All in the name of his god.
270 mln of victims of the religion of ''peace''in India, Afganistan, Persia, Turkey, Europe, Arab Peninsula, North Africa speak for themselves.
Well said, Mehdi. Such behaviour is abhorrent and clearly not that of anyone with any kind of moral compass, religious or otherwise.
No-one's historical connection through blood to any land or faith is used in this way except those who are seen to be "culturally" Muslim, even when their actions clearly illustrate their lack of adherence to Islam.
I'm sure Christian murderer Peter Sutcliffe would agree with me.
@FA interesting points, for sure. But just to point out I don't think author is pakistani. Also, to be fair, the title of his blogs page is: 'Mehdi Hasan's Polemical Take on Politics, Economics and Foreign Affairs'. So guess he has every right to be polemical here!
Alan, you are wrong. There are many people such as myself that are progressive and have anti-racist credentials probably better than yours that alarmed by the current situation where are country is gradually being taken down. If we want to prevent the far right from taking advantage of situatins like this we must honestly confront the issues and not allow the term 'Islamophobia' to be successfully used to intimadate us from getting to the bottom of this problem. Accusing others of "Islamophobia' is the last refuge of an apologist for Islam who is losing an argument.
Social workers, police and teachers are afraid of investigfating this because they have been intimadated by accusations of racism and Islamophobia. When you consider that in fact Muslims have full and equal rights with everyone else in Western countries, while non-Muslims are consistently treated as second class citizens (at best) in the Muslim World, it's a wonder that Muslims are never accused of 'Christianophobia'.
I for one am not going to be intimated and intend to continue speaking out and where appropriate take legal and political action to prevent our descent into the kind of society where Muslims are able to dictate to the rest of us how we can be permitted to like and what rights we are entitled to according to their own Islamic Law and teachings.
There are lots of ignorant people posting their comments here. Firstly, read the article properly before you slate the author for things he didn't say. secondly, misogyny and abuse of women is something that is rife among all criminal gangs of any culture - we could talk about East European sex traffickers or British white paedophile rings. But when those cases come up in the news, no-one focuses on their race or religion. To use culture or religion to explain criminality takes away from individual accountability. Moreover, it seems a bit convenient to label these Paksitani men as Muslim when they probably did their best to disassociate themselves from anything Islamic in their day to day lives. Do you think they were the type of people who would have fasted? Gone to the mosque? Did they even pray? Hardly likely - they were on drink and drugs half the time, not really compatible with a religious lifestyle. When Muslims do anything positive, or even if they engage in normal life, no-one attributes this to their Islam. But whenever it is something negative, the first rationale given is their religion. Utter hypocrisy by the looks of it. As for the clap-trap spouted by some people here about the Muslim prophet Mohammed - they reveal their total lack of historical understanding and willful ignorance. Firstly Aisha's age when she married Mohammad is disputed - it was after all 1500 years ago with little documentation. Most sources say she went to live with Mohammad when she was 13 or older. Secondly, it's anachronistic to compare practices of a different time with those of today (the average child bearing age for women here in england in the 16th century was 13 or 14). And thirdly, we need to look to the racism and religious imperialism of the west in far more recent times before condemning other cultures or religions - Woodrow Wilson famously preached 'world peace' with the League of Nations, except for black people, who he argued were savages and excluded from the civilised community. Served as a convenient pretext for western pillage and plunder (including rape) in non-white parts of the world in the 20th century. There is so much self-righteousness among some people, but just a little introspection and less arrogance would go a long way. Open your minds will you.
Mehdi Hasan is a contributing writer for the New Statesman and the co-author of Ed: The Milibands and the Making of a Labour Leader. He was the New Statesman's senior editor (politics) from 2009-12.