Kelvin MacKenzie and me
I'm amused to see myself feature in the former Sun editor's latest rant.
By Mehdi Hasan Published 13 January 2011 12:31I've met Kelvin MacKenzie now on two or three occasions. I've chatted to him on the phone about Andy Coulson. I spent an hour in the green room with him last Sunday, chatting about the Lib Dems, Rupert Murdoch phone-tapping, etc. So I'm surprised he couldn't remember my name; or, if he did, chose not to share it with his readers. I appear in his column only as "the chap from the New Statesman" and "the bloke from the New Statesman". Can the Sun subs not spell "M-e-h-d-i" or "H-a-s-a-n"? I'm also amused that the only other journalist I've ever debated with or spoken to who couldn't remember my name, despite being told twice on air what it was by the presenter, was the Sun's Trevor Kavanagh.
But let's look at the substance of Kelvin's column (and I use the word "substance" rather loosely):
The class war has taken a surprising turn. Here I was in a television studio debating obesity's link to poverty when the chap from the New Statesman turned on me and said: "It's all right for you, shopping at Waitrose." Guilty as charged. I do shop at Waitrose and am now in the strange position of having to defend myself. It's my nearest supermarket and any food retailer will tell you -- thanks to their extensive research -- that no customer wants to travel more than one-and-a-quarter miles to shop. It's why supermarkets build more and more stores. But it's the first time a shop has defined my politics. He may as well have accused me of wearing shoes. Looking at the bloke from the New Statesman, my sense is that on the same basis Lidl may be his regular haunt.
I'm a Tesco man myself, to be honest. I've never shopped in Lidl or, for that matter, Waitrose. But MacKenzie manages to write about Sunday's The Big Questions, on BBC1, without mentioning the context in which I made my remarks about Waitrose. I know that most Sun columnists shy away from facts and figures -- and MacKenzie is no exception -- so let me try to offer some balance. There is a concept known as a "food desert"; in 1996, a British Low Income Project Team defined food deserts as "areas of relative exclusion where people experience physical and economic barriers to accessing healthy foods". In 2008, the Telegraph reported:
The increasing number of suburban supermarkets is creating health problems for those living in inner-city "urban food deserts", according to research.
The proliferation of supermarkets on city outskirts has led to a decline of decent food outlets in the centre, a study published today discloses.
These "food deserts" are said to be affecting the health of the poorer sections of society as well as those without cars, who cannot easily travel to supermarkets.
As for the overall debate about the links between obesity and poverty in this country and abroad, please see this rather insightful CIF piece from last year.
Kelvin continues:
Not since the Eighties have I seen class war so prominent in public life. Bashing bankers, suggesting mansion taxes. Squeezing the rich until the pips squeak is at the centre of the debate.
He's right -- class war is "prominent in public life" and it is indeed like the "Eighties" all over again. Why? Because, as in the 1980s, a Tory-led government of multimillionaires, which is squeezing the poor and the middle classes while appeasing its greedy friends in the City, has declared class war on the rest of us.
Still, nice to appear in the Sun today, as well as the Guardian, and as for being on the end of Kelvin's notorious rants, as a colleague pointed out me a moment ago, being accused of shopping at Lidl is hardly the worst insult he's ever thrown at someone. At least he didn't accuse me of urinating on the dead.
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31 comments
Saalams Mehdi... dont think there is much Kelvin MacKenzie can teach you about style... he always looks like he's just arrived after an afternoon in the boozer...
Hans Castorp is obviously an imposter. ASDA (owned by Wal-mart) is even worse than Tesco. The Co-op (good with food) is the workers' shop.
Sam - may I ask: where are you gonna with that question?
Lidl will do for me. Less of the unnecessary packaging on their fruit and veg, for example, being just one valid reason to shop there; the other being I'm not on Kelvin MacKenzie's inflated salary and need to economise.
Kelvin MacKenzie really is something else. He should never be forgiven for his Hillsborough slurs.
Justice for the 96.
Mehdi, It was marvellous to see you on TV last sunday morning!
Your TV appearances are fantastic!
I do find myself agreeing with your points of view. I agree with you about the cheap chicken from the chicken shops!
To be honest, I not sure whether some in the coalition government are using Lady Thatcher's era as a template in this parliamentary term.
That Clegg and Cable are acting in a similiar way!
I shop at M and S for my fruit and fresh foods (The odd sandwich and snacks). The rest of my weekly shop comes from Waitrose.
Millions of poor and vulnerable people, as Mehdi correctly points out, lack this access to healthy food. It is sickeningly unfair that their wellbeing is damaged - adding to the health gap between rich and poor. http://www.dentaljournal.org/
Remember people, boycott the s*n.
They tell lies. That's 'the truth'.
Dear Mehdi
I just have been to your blog on the story about Pakistani men. Frankly the comments there are disheartening and unsurprising. These types of ignorant and foolish individuals are speaking nonsense because of the anonymity of internet
Anyway it is your BLOG, you write what is necessary. I appreciate your Blog. I just thought I should tell you that since you have so many nasty ilks in your blog.
Good day
the chap from the New Statesman - LOL
just shows what he thinks of u, that ur not worthy to be remembered by him, the arrogant snob
Kelvin appears like a cross-breed between John McCririck and Michael Winner with his obnoxious and arrogant posturing.
People in Kelvin's position have the power to resist criticism of their class with open access to the media and by influencing/intimidating people in power. Unfortunately, the poor have no such privilidges to articulate a reply.
Keep up the good work Mehdi...dont let the old ponce get you down!
@Left is Forward, if I understand what you're saying, then if anyone cannot afford to shop at Waitrose then no-one should?
Your class war rhetoric is beyond satire. It's kind of ironic that your apparently well developed sense of community seems to be rooted in personal resentment and a massive sense of entitlement. I'd expect to see the latter in an overpaid banker: but yours is directed in a way that has no use whatsoever. At least the banker keeps someone in Waitrose in a job.
When The Sun talks about Class War, they seem to mean "the useless poor rising up against the hard-working middle (such as you, dear readers)".
That's a different Class War to the one being waged in actuality - useless millionaires crushing the poor and the vulnerable.
Actually the Sun has a point. Why not let's have the other version of Class War for a change? The poor and the dispossessed have a lot of oppressors and exploiters and cutters to target right now...
I'm not sure the context that you give explains why you illustrated your point with Waitrose.
The only reason you chose Waitrose was to mark MacKenzie out as rich and out of touch. As such you were attacking the man not the argument and engaging in petty class war.
It is not true to say that you have no access to healthy food if you are poor.Liddle is an incredibly cheap no frill supermarket. There I could easily fill a trolley full of excellent fruit and vegetables and other healthy stuff for a fraction of what I would pay in other places. But of course you have to be able to buy basic ingredients and COOK, which most people now just can't be bothered to do.
I could quite easily cook a healthy meal for 2 for less than a fiver and I would have leftovers.
When I see the crap that people put in their trolleys, I despair. Mostly fattening ready made microwavable processed food, full of chemicals and expensive.
No I have no sympathy for the fat and the poor who claim they just can't find decent food.This is utter bollocks.They could just learn how to cook and make an effort. That's all it takes.
And yes.. Kelvin Mc Kenzie is a complete pratt!
James, I don't think you can criticise Mehdi for ClassWar-ism, at a time when a Class War has never been more justifiable, moral or necessary.
And his point is perfectly valid. It's outrageous that places like Waitrose exist - or moreover, that anyone earns enough money to be able to shop in them. MacKenzie belongs to a wealthy, undertaxed elite. He can afford to shop there and never has problems with access to good quality food and drink.
Millions of poor and vulnerable people, as Mehdi correctly points out, lack this access to healthy food. It is sickeningly unfair that their wellbeing is damaged - adding to the health gap between rich and poor. A more equal society, and subsidisation of healthy food by greater tax on the higher earners, would slash this problem.
Instead, despite the fact that the rich and poor have similar dietary needs, one group (like MacKenzie) can afford to meet these needs, and millions of people can't. That such a basic problem exists implies exactly why we need a Class War - against the likes of Waitrose and its shoppers, and that includes a certain Mr MacKenzie.
Not sure I approve of Tesco myself, Mehdi. My daughters would kill me if I shopped there......
MacKenzie really is an arsehole of the first order. He's one of those right wing commentators in the same mould as Littlejohn and Hitchens who espouses unpleasant views seemingly for effect. Either that or he is genuinely mentally ill. No-one could be that deluded and sociopathic and be actually considered to be healthy.
On a serious note, I agree with your remarks about class war, Mehdi. The upper class in the country cannot bear the fact that the electorate rejected them for 13 years and have decided we must be punished. MacKenzie is just using the "if I've just said it, it must be true" approach favoured by Dave, Gideon and Boris, thinking no-one will check on the facts.
As for forgetting your name, he's just trying to bully and belittle you. As I said at the top he is a prick of the first order.
Kelvin is a coward who says something behind people's back. Take last Sunday's discussion for example, he was so nervous about your comments and he writes without citing your name. He is an arsehole racist.
Is it really appropriate for Mehdi Hasan to use the NS as a place to air his personal feelings about things happening in his life?
In that case Mehdi, do keep us informed of misunderstandings you have with your wife. I'm sure things can get quite interesting in the Hasan household!
Axmed - see above.
Sam - what business is that of yours?
What are you if you have middle class taste on a working class wage?
Surely It's Just Them (millionaires) and Us (everyone else) and super markets do not come into the equation?
and Mhedi,I am absolutely heart broken that you are more of a Tesco man and this is sheer male laziness on your part and if you take 5 mins a week to think about your food shop you can avoid Tesco totally and mix and match with local food and more ethical supermarkets AND STILL BE PERCEIVED AS TRUE WORKING CLASS. I do not buy any crap about being too busy to do this.
Supermarket chains are in general all evil and to be honest, Waitrose (minus Palestinian exploitation) i is probably the best of the bad bunch.
I watched the programme you are referring to Mehdi and therefore I know the context within which the remark was made. I applaud you for sharing a stage with Kelvin McKenzie - who still refuses to apologose For The Sun's coverage of Hillsborough. I'm sick of him being wheeled out in debates as the "voice of the people". He's unrepresentative of anybody I know. He's a vile specimen of a human being.
Sam, you're an idiot.
I like most of what you say, but please less ego in the writing.
By Marx's beard, Comrades.
I can't believe Mehdi Hasan shops at the graven temple of capitalism most beloved of the hated boss class.
The Proletariat cannot trust the voice of one fed by the supermarket that sell T-shirts for £2 and two chickens for a fiver and steals your information via the nefarious ClubCard. Comrades, the very stuff of Mehdi Hasan has been co-opted by the running cadres of the capitalist oppressors!
I hereby demand an emergency meeting of the Central Committee for Worker's Propaganda be convened, and a motion tabled that Comrade Hasan be deemed a betrayer of the revolution and all in his Tescoist cadre be deemed Enemies of the People.
As any true Champion of the Proletariat knows, a combination of Asda for your staples, Sainsbury's for their special offers, and M&S for your bits is the best way to manoeuve in the howling wilderness of capitalist competition.
Death to Tescoist Revanchism!
Long live the Asda/Sainsbury's/M&S axis!
Eternal vigilance against the hated boss class!
Yours in Fraternal Comradeship
Hans Castorp
I prefer lidl brilliant for fruit and veg -does a mean scuba vessel to
thankyou for letting me aspire to shelf stacking by building all over the fucking place
I'm not so sure that its back to the 80s... demonisation of the poor and unemployed, toothless trade unions, privatisation of the NHS and two tier schooling in the aftermath of a global recession seems more like the 30s to me.
I worked with McKenzie's father and mother years ago - they were both on a local paper in South London. Considering what they were like he hasn't turned out as bad as he could have.
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