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Does WikiLeaks prove that the Yanks are “a force for good”?

David Aaronovitch must be having a laugh.

When I first read David Aaronovitch's column in the Times (£) today, I resisted the temptation to look up at the corner of the page to remind myself of the date. I know it's not 1 April. But is Aaro having a laugh? Playing a prank on us? Just being silly? His column is entitled:

The secret's out: the Yanks are a force for good

The standfirst says:

The WikiLeaks cables prove that the world's most powerful democracy is on our side, the side of liberty

David himself writes:

. . . the United States sometimes blunders, makes mistakes, corrects them and, in correcting them, makes more.

So the US, in his view, is just an innocent abroad – clumsy, mistaken, but well-intentioned; not mad or bad. Nice and convenient. He continues:

The cables prove again that the US, the most powerful democracy, is on our side. On Britain's side. On the side of those who think that democracy and liberty are important and need to be argued for and defended. They haven't been lying to us. They haven't been doing things that are against our interests.

What?? Let me check the date again. Are we sure it's not April Fool's Day? If not, then I'm not sure where to begin. Hold on, I know, let's start with the "first sets of disclosures of military messages relating to Iraq and Afghanistan" which David glosses over.

In the Iraq war logs, for example, we discovered that the "US authorities failed to investigate hundreds of reports of abuse, torture, rape and even murder by Iraqi police and soldiers whose conduct appears to be systematic and normally unpunished" and "a US helicopter gunship involved in a notorious Baghdad incident had previously killed Iraqi insurgents after they tried to surrender".

In the Afghan war logs, for examples, we learned about Task Force 373, the "black" unit of special forces charged with hunting down targets for assassination or detention without trial and "in many cases, the unit has set out to seize a target for internment, but in others it has simply killed them without attempting to capture. The logs reveal that TF 373 has also killed civilian men, women and children and even Afghan police officers who have strayed into its path."

Is this what Aaronovitch calls democracy, liberty and truth? Let's turn to the latest batch of state department cables. Aaronovitch rejects Julian Assange's call for Hillary Clinton to resign from her post as US secretary of state on the grounds that (a) she is elected and he is not, and (b) she "authorised her spies to spy in the United Nations – as, one imagines, do the undocumented Chinese, Russians, Bolivians and Cypriots". But point (a) is irrelevant and, as for point (b), let me make two points of my own:

1) The fact that others break the law or engage in morally dubious behaviour does not justify the United States or, for that matter, the United Kingdom doing so also. Perhaps David was off sick the day his primary school teacher taught his class the rather basic lesson that two wrongs don't make a right; and

2) Clinton did not, in fact, authorise "her spies" to "spy in the United Nations", as he claims, but actually instructed her state department ambassadors, envoys and diplomats to do so, which, as the Guardian has noted, "appears to blur the line between diplomacy and spying". That's what makes the content of Section 01 of 24 State 080163 so disturbing. Plus, I should add, the UN says that bugging the secretary general is illegal, under the 1946 UN Convention on Privileges and Immunities and the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations.

Does US law-breaking not matter if the Cypriots are allegedly doing so, too? Is that really what Aaronovitch would have us believe?

And, yes, we've had gossip and tittle-tattle in some of these leaked US cables. But we've also had clear and depressing evidence of the "grand hypocrisy" on the part of the United States that Aaro is so desperate to dismiss in his column. A 2007 cable from the US embassy in Berlin, for example, published by WikiLeaks on Sunday night, describes a meeting in which the then-deputy chief of the US mission to Germany, John M Koenig, urged German officials to "weigh carefully at every step of the way the implications for relations with the US" of issuing international arrest warrants for CIA agents in the shameful case of the German national Khalid el-Masri.

As the ACLU notes:

In 2003, el-Masri was kidnapped from Macedonia and transported to a secret CIA-run prison in Afghanistan where he was held for several months and tortured before being dumped on a hillside in Albania.

Charming. So I guess that's what Aaronovitch means when he refers to the United States, "the most powerful democracy", being on "our side", on the side of "liberty". Here's what the ACLU's Ben Wizner said in response to the el-Masri WikiLeaks revelations:

We have long known that both the Bush and Obama administrations have shielded perpetrators of torture and rendition from accountability for their illegal acts. We now know that US diplomats have also sought to shut down accountability efforts abroad. The United States' employment of diplomatic pressure to influence the legal proceedings of a democratic ally was improper and unseemly, particularly where the goal of that interference was to shield US officials from accountability for torture.

Even as many of our closest allies have acknowledged and addressed their official complicity in the Bush administration's human rights abuses, the United States has yet to reckon with its legacy of torture. The best way to restore our standing in the world, reassert the rule of law and strengthen our democracy is to support, not obstruct, meaningful accountability for torture.

Hear, hear!

On a side note, I must point out that it is ironic for a man who wrote, back in April 2003, that "if nothing is eventually found, I – as a supporter of the [Iraq] war – will never believe another thing that I am told by our government, or that of the US ever again" to now write, as he does in the Times, that the Americans "haven't been lying to us".

Itis also worrying to see a man of David's intelligence, experience and acumen having failed to learn the lessons of the Iraq war, and the associated WMD lies, deceptions and propaganda: in his column, he refers to the "possibility of the Iranian Bomb". Why the capital letters, David? Is that the Times's house style or the product of your own deliberate decision to fear-monger?

57 comments

Duncan's picture

"Aaronovitch rejects Julian Assange's call for Hillary Clinton to resign from her post as US secretary of state on the grounds that (a) she is elected and he is not ..." As you wrote, this is irrelevant, but you know, just as a matter of fact, Clinton was not elected -- she was appointed, like any American Secretary of State.

Roger Dodger's picture

For every example you give Medhi, a brief comparison to the conduct and tactics of those the US are fighting renders your argument useless.

I wonder, if an English soldier in World War II mistakenly shot a German civilian, or perhaps beat a German soldier for information, does that mean his cause was wrong?

A typically stupid article.

Left Is Forward's picture

Shows up the Murdoch pro-capitalism propaganda machine.

The greatest benefit of the EU and the rise of China is that it they could offer strong resistance to the disgusting role the "democapitalist" USA plays in the world. Instead we let those murderers stand as our "allies".

proterozoic's picture

Message boards at American newspaper websites don't exactly coruscate with wit and brilliance, but you guys are even worse, if such a thing is possible.
We have known about torture and civilian casualties in the Iraq and Afghan wars since day one. The simple truth is that the Wikileaks cables haven't revealed anything unexpected and unusually sinister about American diplomacy.
This whole scruffy patch of comments is made up of personal insults and inexplicable off-topic bashing of zionists. The mind boggles to contemplate such an intellectual vacuity.

aron kohan's picture

It's not that US diplomats don't understand the Middle East; it's just that they've lost all sight of injustice. Vast amounts of diplomatic literature prove that the mainstay of Washington's Middle East policy is alignment with Israel, that its principal aim is to encourage the Arabs to join the American-Israeli alliance against Iran, that the compass point of US policy over years and years is the need to tame/bully/crush/oppress/ ultimately destroy the power of Iran.

There is virtually no talk (so far, at least) of illegal Jewish colonial settlements on the West Bank, of Israeli "outposts", of extremist Israeli "settlers" whose homes now smallpox the occupied Palestinian West Bank – of the vast illegal system of land theft which lies at the heart of the Israeli-Palestinian war. And incredibly, all kinds of worthy US diplomats grovel and kneel before Israel's demands – many of them apparently fervent supporters of Israel – as Mossad bosses and Israel military intelligence agents read their wish-list to their benefactors.

south pacific's picture

What does one expects from the biggest global bully.

If you believe the BS and spin the US feeds the world you must have rocks in your head.

The leaks just confirm what those with a brain have been thinking for years.

Liberty, egality and fraternity. That is not something one can expect from a super bully.

Guy Debored's picture

Aaronovitch gets worse and worse.
I spotted his lardy arse coming out of Mirabelle in Mayfair late one lunchtime about 10 years ago. That was my judgement made.

Guy Debored's picture

...pimped his respect for an amuse-gueule.

Jamie1's picture

Disappointing to see a strong Eurocommunist go to waste at one of Murdoch's propaganda machines; Aaronovitch has been getting progressively worse for a few years now, and has started spouting a lot of what his readers want to hear, or something deliberately controversial, rather than factual journalism. Then again, he's in the opinion section.

lavinia moore's picture

The latest public service provided by Wikileaks have had me frequently rolling around the floor.
Which I think may well be the best response the world could make regarding the lame-brain drivel that has been made public.
Having long thought that diplomats seem to be refugees from the opportunity classes, I am not at all surprised at the unintelligent, banal and self satisfied rot that some of the cables have revealed.
Wouldn't it be great if we just laughed at these morons? The trouble with that comes from two directions.
One is that, being so sure of their superiority, they would miscontrue our laughter and take it as support and affection for them.
Secondly, it ignores the sinister undertone that needs to be acknowledged that lurks underneath the polite and sometimes not so polite diplospeak, an undertone that reveals more of of the truth about themselves than those screaming the loudest about getting Wiki's founder ever want the millions of plebs in the world to know about.
Oh why is it that the majority of the world's population are still being controlled by the nasty few?
Oh. I forgot. They really do have WMDs!
Lavinia Moore

writeon1's picture

So Aaronovitch debases himself before the Great American Imperial Altar and becomes little more than a highly paid... Troll. What a waste of a career and a reputation. Does the money really make up for it? I wonder, does he really, honestly, believe the stuff he writes anymore?

The idea that the American Empire is a benign force for good, that American power is somehow as innocent as most Americans appear to be, is absurd, a grotesque parody of reality. Is Aaronovitch totally unaware of history? Does the mass slaughter and collosal material destruction in Iraq mean nothing on the giant scale the weighs goodness?

But then of course, if one wants real media success and the big bucks, one has to prostrate oneself and repeat the mantra, that America makes mistakes, but they only desire to do good, regardless of their imperial interests.

Aaronovitch would be amusing if his convertion to the true faith, so late in life, wasn't so deeply sad, and rather pathetic.

javed's picture

RK and Foreskins wake and go look for a job stop scrounging of the state you losers...

swatantra's picture

I cannot believe it. America could do us all a favour by spending a decade in isolation and putting its own country in order instead of interfering in other Nations affairs.
Its interesting that the Sri Lankans were able to bring a terrorist war against the Tamil Tigers to an end and yet the might of America has been pretty useless against a handful of AlQueda and Taliban.

Hans Castorp's picture

Oh dear. Mehdi's current output seems to consist solely of guttersnipe snaking at fellow journalists. Not good.

Mehdi, when are you going to start doing some, um, journalism of your own, instead of sniping at others? You may get (and earn) a reputation as something of a snide bitch.

The fact is, the wikileaks are very uncomfortable for the verkrappt left. No vast conspiracies, but instead able, tolerant, and at times literary diplomats, contending with oddballs and malign actors in every corner of the world.

The facts that Mehdi has to fall back on the Iraq disclosures (whose cheif surprise what it showed how barbarous the "resistance" lauded by his newspaper is) and the Afghan logs (which contained no real surprises) show how disappointed he really is. Oh, and the fag end of an approach to torture that is shown to be the preserve of the previous manchean administration.

Just look at the paltry NS coverage on offer - itself evidence that there is no evidence of a new Great Game at play. I now await Pilger's inevitable disingenuous screed of indignation-on-tap.

Pentagon Papers my ass.

Hans Castorp's picture

That should be "snarking", btw.

Olijaan's picture

@Hans Castorp: you seem to engage in rather more "snarking" than Mehdi. As you can see at the top of this page, this is a blog post. If you prefer more substantial articles I'd direct your attention to the columns section - Mehdi's latest one can be found here:
http://www.newstatesman.com/uk-politics/2010/12/england-governor-bank-king

Axmed's picture

@Hans Castorp: you are a bigoted. Fool, you have made Weak weak weak comments, man. Mehdi Hasan right on. Cheers.

maxinemf's picture

Would not Sam Aaronovich, working class intellectual and staunch communist be turning in his grave at the right wing poisonous dogma that Dave A ( his son) continues to peddle.

maxinemf's picture

His views and staunch support for Israel are even more odious. How is it that those who migrate from the left to the right of the political spectrum end up being more reactionary. Little wonder that he feels at home in the Murdoch Empire. Thank God too that this man has very little poltical influence in this country and his views are out of kilter with the William Hague.

writeon1's picture

Of course it's wrong to see Aaronovitch as just a highly paid clown. His views are really rather disgusting and immoral. An inversion of reality, a prostitution of the truth. Nothing even faintly amusing, only vile and dispiriting.

Around two thousand civilian casualties in the tribal areas along the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan over the last couple of years. A bad thing.

A large pile of brown bodies; men, women, and children; on the scales, weighing it down. On the other side a mere handful of 'bad men' blown to bits, 'good thing.'

That's how the American, imperial, ruling elite values the lives of 'barbarians' on the edge of their empire. That is, they have no real value at all, not as human beings. This mass, terrorist, slaughter; is a price worth paying, seen from the imperial perspective, in order to 'take out' some 'bad men.'

It is good mass murder, for a 'good' cause, to spread democracy and liberty and freedom around the world; but what they are really spreading is death and destruction, as the imperial war-machine increasingly spreads the carnage out of Afghanistan and into Pakistan.

triedeinsursE's picture

Left is Backwards.

You are not an ally. An example of an ally would be the Australians who have fought alongside us shoulder to shoulder since WW1 to include the mud and pain of Vietnam. They are a true friend. Do not even try to place yourselves in that category. Half the problems in the world today are a result of British imperialism. No wonder your history is not taught in your schools.

triedeinsursE's picture

Lavinia, the intel for WMD came from your government, not mine.

A beautiful name BTW.

triedeinsursE's picture

@John.
"What does one expects from the biggest global bully."

Kenya.

The majority of the men and boys were detained in Britain’s Gulag, where beating and torture of every kind was endemic. The aim was to secure confessions and implicate others. They were “screened” to discover who had taken the Mau Mau oath, to force them to recant, and to rehabilitate them. The 30,000 “hard-core”, who refused to confess, were sent to “the Pipeline” – camps designed to break them by systematic and relentless brute force.

No-one knows the death toll – estimates vary from 30,000 to 300,000. When independence came, Kenyatta , in accepting the presidency, quoted Jesus’ words “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” Under the agreement settlers remained on the land or had a share of the £12.5 million pounds paid out in compensation.

http://www.urc.org.uk/what_we_do/communications/reform/09/july/kenyas_ma...

Do let me know if your would like a ton more of this sort of thing.

javed's picture

foreskins sorry Buckskins good to see you back you had a wash today cause i can smell you from here....

javed's picture

BUCKSKINS IS A ZIO-FACIST...

triedeinsursE's picture

Excellent post Hans, I can't figure the NS out and it's idea that Mehdi is any kind of journalist. Actually he is even editor in chief of something. If it isn't Muslim related, all he does is scrounge something from another journalists work. Could it be they keep him around because he is black, and Muslim? It can't be for his talent in journalism because he has none. I just don't get it.

Dave's picture

The reason many former marxist journalists are becoming neocon journalists is because they are first and foremost, Zionists.

In the past These-Zionists were comfortable within the left-wing camp, but now they have moved into the right-wing camp.

This is because of the growing left-wing interest in the Palestinian cause.

This matters because These-Zionists don't want to make peace and share the 'Promised Land' with the Arabs.

Instead they promote a neocon agenda e.g. curtail civil liberties, incite anti-muslim feeling and support the pre-emptive bombing of Israel's neighbours.

An agenda promoted by the right-wing Murdoch media.

And that's why these pro-war journalists (as shameless as Blair)refuse to apologise for Iraq and support a war with Iran - and work for the Times.

krazykol87's picture

@Swantantra the Sri Lankan army effectively killed the 'terrorists' by not caring about the civilians surrounding them and so killing tens of thousands of innocent civillians as a result and the remainder were incarcerated in 'welfare camps' where they weren't let out....not something to aspire to!!! At least USA are not intentionally doing likewise

writeon1's picture

The simple truth, what a quaint phrase, covering so many lies. Maybe it should be the simpleton's truth?

I wonder, is it possible to have it both ways? Of course it is, if one is a self-righteous, hypocritical, and one believes in the concept of American exceptionalism.

One the one hand the leaks are rubbished by people who apparently have the extraordinary ability to read through over 250,000 cables, digest this information, analyse it, and then dismiss it as containing nothing new, noting we didn't already know, etc. Truly remarkable.

On the other hand Americans are howling for Assange's blood, he is a threat to the US, the informaiton risks lives, he's a traitor, he should be assassinated, the material undermines the United States, and on, and on, and on.

Well, which one is it? Is the material just diplomatic gossip, of little to no value, nothing new; or is it deadly and damaging? Can it be both at the same time?

Are we then to conclude that the US reactions are not related to the material at all, because the material is unemportant, but rather totally over-the-top and hysterical outbursts of venom and anger, directed at Assange because he's been impertinent, disrespectful, and doesn't appear to know his place, like most corporate jounalists do?

aron kohan's picture

why do certain people like buckskin have to mention the word muslim in their every post, if mehdi weren't a muslim would you still be making a fuss about mehdis religious beliefs, before it was us jews now its the muslims...

triedeinsursE's picture

aron, the downloded leaks were sent directly to Wikileaks.

writeon1's picture

This 'line' that the material is of little interest, gossip, nothing really new, is a well-known rhetorical tactic designed to divert attention away from the actually content of the cables, which actually reveal, in public, for the first time, a wealth of interesting and vital information about how the American, imperial elite, think and see the world.

Of course one knew how full lies they were, how ignorant, how arrogant, how biased; but now we can read just how mendacious they are, with words from their own lying lips.

What I personally find intersting is the scale of contempt these exceptional imperialists have for not just the people who they regard as enemies, but even for their allies, who they almost seem to dispise even more for their lack of spine and dignity.

It's not surprising. One can hate and have a grudging form of respect for an implacable enemy who's willing to fight you when the empire invades; but contempt is arguably a natural reaction for the grovelling, pathetic, money-grabbing, traitors to their own people, who so desparately want to show their undying loyalty to their American masters. I mean who has 'respect' for a slave, which is, after all, what most of the 'leaders', who bow so low to the empire, really are; slaves.

triedeinsursE's picture

Buckskins mentions the word Muslim because it's not unusual for him to post a string of articles on the topic. I hope that satisfies your curiosity.

javed's picture

Buckskins you loser hows it going you still spitting out your vile about islam amd muslims?

swatantra's picture

The Tamil Tigers were using that old dirty trick of hiding out amongst the civilians. Not much you can do but round up the lot of them, hold and question them, until the Tigers can be identified and dealt with.

RK's picture

@javed...I came to NS to laugh. You made my day.

Is there a related word to Islamophobia, which mirrors fear of mention of names such as Muslims, Islam or anything....Why re people such as Javed so afraid t even hear that word?

Buck...excellent point. Indeed this Mehdi guy should be writing on the comment section of other stories like we do. What a waste of NS money.

At-least Penny, even with her grim face, writes something original.

javed's picture

RK you loser hows it going your boyfriend Foreskins was looking for you sorry i prounced his name wrong i meant to say Buckskins loser....

RK's picture

With all the spin at the disposal, is this the best Left can do? There is not a single good revealing story inspite of Mehdi (pretending?) to get all worked up. If anything really it is all about Saudi King's desire to see Iran finished and duplicity of Pakistan. Spying on UN is not wrong, whether legal or illegal. UN officers themselves are proving to be quite (allegedly) corrupt. Eg Kofi Annan and Sashi Tharoor.

Moreover if Wikileak can spy on American Diplomats, why can the American Diplomats spy on UN?

Double standards mething.

aron kohan's picture

shame on the media wikileaks is doing what the media is supposed to be doing exposing the truth not covering it up well done wikileaks. The mainstream media find themselves in an awful bind. they haven't been doing their job properly, and have been completely outclassed by Wikileaks. Hence the love/hate relationship: the mainstream media love WikiLeaks as a source, but hate being upstaged.

RK's picture

@javed ..go learn few more words. I am educated in vernacular medium in India and I also managed to learn more Enlish words that you.

Hint > Google> Thesaurus> Looser

Uah.

RK's picture

Clearly I am still learning manners to write slowly and accurately....not to have too many typos.

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DarkDayinNovember's picture

Mr. Aaronovitch came across as crass, smug and very condescending on Newsnight the other day.

I was most surprised that a man who purports to be smart and intelligible had to resort to trying to belittle one of his interlocutors. Poor show.

Mind you, having said that, Ms. Penny [http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/laurie-penny] tore him to pieces with her sharp mind coupled with her full understanding of the issues at hand as well as her appreciation of how the whole, rather unappetising, bid to turn the nation's students into debt-laden paupers has been conceived.

RK's picture

@DarkDayinNovember

I have not seen Newsnight but Aaronovitch was smug even when he was communist. Crass is a bit of a stretch probably....a bit posh, maybe.

I would agree Penny is original and thought provoking....but to us oldies, her arguments are a bit childish, which can change when she grows up.

triedeinsursE's picture

You mean to say the US are pro Israel? No...go on. You bet your sweet ass we are. I am a Christian American and I consider every Israeli my brother or sister. So long as there is an America there will be an Israel. Happy Chanukah ya'al.

javed's picture

Republican nut job Sarah Palin has demanded that the WikiLeaks chief is hunted down like Osama bin Laden and treated like an Al Qaeda terrorist.

What happened to freedom of speech?

Hypocrites.

javed's picture

By Governments claiming that certain things are secret/classified information and should not be released to the masses they are able to commit much crimes against humanity and keep the masses in ignorance. To hold Governments accountable and in check we need more information in the public domain NOT less.

RK's picture

@javed ...Now Javed, can you critisize your dear friend Palin. She is such a perfect match for you...oh no not in bed, I mean in brains.

javed's picture

Wikileaks wrote to the the US ambassador in London asking which of the 250,000 plus cables might be a threat to life, offering to redact such information in consultation with US govt.

Some lawyer from the State dept responded, repeating the same dreary tale of a general threat to life but no specifics. None whatsoever.

Wikileaks, rightly in my opinion, took the view that the US govt was little more than a cheap liar caught out and trying to hide its embarrassment at what it was up to and they went ahead and published.

In sharing their information with respected publications like the Guardian, Der Spiegel and the New York Times etc, and in giving the US govt ample opportunity to give information about any specific threats that may result from publication, Wikileaks have acted responsibly.

The US govt has of course acted like the jumped up street thug and bully that day and daily threatens the lives of innocent people all over the world.

triedeinsursE's picture

Your right RK. Penny can write up a first class piece of investigative journalism. She is a professional. In other words she earns her salary. I don't agree with most of what she writes but that takes nothing from her writings.

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