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Hey, let's "evolve" Lara Croft by having people try to rape her!

"She is literally turned into a cornered animal."

Lara Croft. Photo: Getty Images
Yeah, that just about sums up the whole Lara Croft phenomenon, right there. Photo: Getty Images

How's this for timing? The day after the hoo-hah over Anita Sarkeesian's project to expose stereotyped women in computer games, and the makers of the new Lara Croft game are ready to assure you that she's not just a walking jiggle any more. Oh no, she is a sympathetic lady who will engage you emotionally.

How are they going to do this? By having her beaten and subjected to an attempted rape. 

Ron Rosenberg, executive producer, explains:

"When you see her have to face these challenges, you start to root for her in a way that you might not root for a male character . . . When people play Lara, they don't really project themselves into the character. They're more like 'I want to protect her.' There's this sort of dynamic of 'I'm going to this adventure with her and trying to protect her' . . . The ability to see her as a human is even more enticing to me than the more sexualised version of yesteryear. She literally goes from zero to hero... we're sort of building her up and just when she gets confident, we break her down again. . .  She is literally turned into a cornered animal. It's a huge step in her evolution: she's forced to either fight back or die."

WHOA THERE, RON! Did you just say that "gamers" don't identify with Lara Croft? Did you just say that "gamers" only like female characters when they get to protect them? Did you just say that "gamers" would find a woman being beaten and raped "enticing"? It sounds a hell of a lot like you did.

There is so much WTF going on in that quote I can barely start to comprehend it. Even allowing for the fact that off-the-top-of-your-head remarks can give an impression a more considered response wouldn't, it is a pretty odd thing to say.

For a start, I - and, I suspect, lots of female gamers - quite liked Lara Croft when I was growing up. In ye old days (the 90s), it felt like the only girls in games were Princess (boring, didn't do anything) and Chun Li (did a bit more, but without any pants on). I loved "being" Lara Croft, running around, treasure-hunting, failing to grab that ledge over and over again. Yes, the boys liked trying to get the camera angle to see down her top, but at that stage, I'd take what I could get in terms of female characters. I'm sure plenty of other women "projected themselves" into the character, along with many men.

Now, 16 years after the original game, things are supposed to have have moved on. There are interesting women aplenty in games (Samus and FemShep spring to mind), and yet we still have developers expecting a big ole pat on the back for resisting the urge to make their character's cleavage her chief selling point. Even worse, they think that "gamers" (by which I think Ron Rosenberg means "men") can only be reconciled to a female character if they can look after her. If the makers "build her up and just when she gets confident . . . break her down again".

There's also the fact, as many writers have pointed out, that it's only women who are presumed to be made "stronger" by subjecting them to brutal beatings and rapes. Bungie didn't think that the only way players would root for Master Chief was by having him raped. He got to run around with an awesome set of weaponry, no face and barely any voice, and yet mysteriously players managed to "project" themselves into him just fine.

Anyway, I'm sure this will provoke a huge amount of debate in the industry, and perhaps even someone will take Ron Rosenberg aside and mention the fact that many women play games, and many players of both genders don't need to see a woman subjected to an attempted rape in order to be interested in her.

I'll leave you with this, the cherry on the world's creepiest cake:

She is literally turned into a cornered animal. It's a huge step in her evolution.

Yes, Ron Rosenberg, you're right. Abandoning one objectifying, male-gazed depiction of women for another, objectifying, male-gazed depiction really is progress. I salute you.

UPDATE:  A few people have questioned whether it is true that Lara Croft will be subjected to a rape attempt. The Kotaku article from which Ron Rosenberg's comments come has this to say: "And then, Rosenberg says, those scavengers will try to rape her." Following the furore, the developers say that Rosenberg "mis-spoke", but Kotaku stand by their story

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Jezziah's picture

"Did you just say that "gamers" don't identify with Lara Croft? Did you just say that "gamers" only like female characters when they get to protect them? Did you just say that "gamers" would find a woman being beaten and raped "enticing"?"

No, he didn't. You're projecting what you imagine he said due to inherent prejudice. Just because a character is female it doesn't mean everything to do with them is a gender issue. What you have here is an executive producer saying how they think people interact with their game (note: he talks about Lara Croft, not all female characters).

If you disagree with this statement fine, you don't have to interact with a game in the way the producers expect you to, if you don't like the game you don't even have to buy it. But please don't twist his words to make it sound like he's encouraging rape or that he's making derogatory statements against women in general because it's simply not true, as anyone who reads the statements you provided can see.

If you ant to write an article about sexism and computer games I'm pretty sure you can find a much better example than this. One where you can rightfully be indignant and not have to invent perceived crimes.

WeekWoman's picture

I think you'll find that the implication is there if not the actual words - 'as anyone [with a modicum of intelligence] who reads the statements [she] provided can see'

Missile Smile's picture

WHOA THERE, RON! Did you just say that "gamers" don't identify with Lara Croft?" He heavily implied it.

"Did you just say that "gamers" only like female characters when they get to protect them?" No and he didn't imply it.

"Did you just say that "gamers" would find a woman being beaten and raped "enticing"?" No and he didn't imply it.

"Hey, let's "evolve" Lara Croft by having people try to rape her!"...and try to kill her, and successfully kill her close friends, and make her have to hunt to stay alive, and escape abduction...etc.

"They think that "gamers" (by which I think Ron Rosenberg means "men") can only be reconciled to a female character if they can look after her." Not "female characters", THIS female character in THIS game and I haven't read anything that would suggest that this is anything other than a choice rather than the only way they thought it possible.

"perhaps even someone will take Ron Rosenberg aside and mention the fact that many women play games, and many players of both genders don't need to see a woman subjected to an attempted rape in order to be interested in her." I'm sure he knows this already, I've not read anything that suggests otherwise.

As for the cherry on the creepiest cake; that quote certainly would be creepy if it was being exclusively applied to attempted rape, which it isn't. It is being applied to the accumulative effect of all the things she faces in the game of which attempted rape is allegedly one.

WolfStark's picture

Most people don't seem to understand the word "indetification". You can't identify with Lara Croft, you don't identify with Lara Croft, you never did identify with her. People like characters, they sympathize with them but they're not identifying with them. Why? Because you can only identify in specific situations. You can say "yeah, I would do the same" or "yeah I feel the same" but you can't say "I identify with her/him". You're not an archeologist on a hunt, Lara is and you sympathize with her. Many gamers seem to forget this, it doesn't matter if someone is male of female, you could identify even with an asexuel alien but as said only in specific situations.

That beside, why does no one gets the rape scene right?
First: It wasn't Lara, it was a friend of hers
Second: It was no rape, it was sexual harassment and that's it
Third: A real rape would be great but unfortunatly we won't get this.

The third point is important because there is a difference in a simple Transformers story and grown up stories like Schindlers List. If you want to evolve story telling, you need to make "more". You need diversity in terms of tools, styles, stories. Rape (for BOTH genders!), child death, drugs, sex, violence or a simple, quit taxi ride. It's realism that many games are lacking and therefore any intent to make the media more diverse is good.

Of course, that is just one step. After that but best right as you do that, you need to make it right. Call of Duty never did it right, it was absolutly clear PR. Of course, you can still stimulate the media with acts like these but unfortunatly it's not enough to just say "kill all the innocent". That's just lazy PR.
Funny is, Tomb Raider didn't had such a lazy aspect, many people were like "What? Where the hell was there a rape scene?". The whole scandal was forced by a minority who saw something which wasn't there and this minority is destructive as hell saying that such a scene shouldn't be in a video game.

krose's picture

As disturbing as this turn of events in gaming is, what is far more disturbing is how many commenters here actually believe that rape is no different than any other form of violence.

This is what people mean when they say we live in a rape culture. "Rape culture is a concept used to describe a culture in which rape and sexual violence are common and in which prevalent attitudes, norms, practices, and media normalize, excuse, tolerate, or even condone sexual violence."

A lot of people don't think we do live in a rape culture. But when I need to prove it to someone, I'll send them here, to read the words of these people who are taking part in it.

Random person's picture

Samus Meets With Her Agent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8NM1IgDMvI&feature=plcp

mittfh's picture

I'd personally suggest the scene is more about playing up the stereotype of the scavengers as primitive savages, emphasising that they don't just want to kill the main character, they want to torture and humiliate them first.

With a male character, in reality as well as fiction, the torture's likely to include beatings and whippings, but rear end probes or torturing the sensitive areas are less likely. With a female character, in reality as well as fiction, there's always likely to be the possibility of ... (in millennia gone by it wasn't unheard of for the men to be killed and the women to be taken for use as baby machines).

For a female character to be imprisoned with the stereotypical savage and for them to completely ignore her gender (unless she was deliberately trying to 'pass' as a boy), not even suggesting or hinting at the possibility of ..., wouldn't ring true. While the actions of the savages are detestable, they're also a reflection that our world isn't perfect. It would be almost equally as detestable if they deliberately treated her with kid gloves, saying "You're a mere lady - you're going to be no threat to us whatsoever, so we'll treat you nicely and in return you can do all our cooking and cleaning for us, because we really don't have a clue as to how you cook wild chicken to perfection."

Besides which, given how strong-willed Lara is often portrayed as being, it's quite likely that groping her chest is about as far as the scavenger gets before he's kneed in the nuts, head-butted, and generally made to wish his life would have been a lot easier if he'd left her alone.

(Some words deliberately substituted to try and avoid the filter)

hugh markey's picture

Can't wait 'till Macho Man is threatened with the same fate worse than death. Let's not be squeamish, ladies.

Jock-Strap

John Cheese's picture

Much ado about nothing. I find it interesting that this comes up only when a "rape" (if it is that) is portrayed...Rape is violence and many of these games portray violence- why no uproar? More than half our US prime-time shows involve violence.
Hunger Games movie was the early summer blockbuster & it involved violence & murder against children & teens- why no uproar? Take off the blinders people...

Hmmmmm's picture

If you don't listen to anything else I'll say, here is a 100% successful suggestion that I have heard from other people. You don't like the story line of this game? Don't play it. I would assume that's what you do with other forms of entertainment, right? I know when I see trailers for movies that disgust me in every possible way (Saw, Hostel, etc.) I DONT WATCH THEM. If I see a book that looks too raunchy, too violent, too corny, or even has too much of a freaking color, I DONT READ IT. If I see a (Oh boy, here comes the one that applies to you) videogame that seems just inappropriate, I DONT BUY IT, I DONT PLAY IT, I DONT EVEN WHINE ABOUT IT! The company has the right to put pretty much whatever content it wants in the game, it's up to the consumer to make sure that the consumer doesn't support it in the form of money (if the product is out of good form).

Evolve - what this article is about. You are mad because Ron Rosenburg has said that Lara Croft's character has evolved. How can you say that she hasn't? Maybe because you don't know what evolve means. From what I have seen, she has evolved tremendously! She is no longer the invincible, know all, set of jiggly polygons that she once was. Now she is a vulnerable and unsure character that gamers can better associate with. That is change! That is a definition of evolution. She also happens to look good, but look at today's media, its rare to see someone that isn't unrealistically beautiful (whether naturally or not) in the spotlight.

You also seem to be mad that Ron said that (paraphrase) "People want to help her." Here is what I believe is the biggest failure in your argument. In the game, PEOPLE ARE HER! If you think about it, gamers aren't helping a female in distress because she is a female, they are helping themselves because their character is in danger. I doubt anyone buys Halo and plays as the Master Chief and decides, "well damn, this isn't fun, my character is a male and I only help females." While Master Chief isn't being fondled by a creepy dude, the analogy is still relevant, I help the Master Chief because I am the Chief in the game. People see the character as themselves and I don't think that her being a female has little to do with their wanting to help Lara (and thereby helping themselves) progress through the story of the game.

If worse come to worse people, forget what Ron Rosenburg says and play the game. There is only so much you can understand about the game's literature from the trailer. After you play the game, only then do you have the credibility to write an article that can determine the sexist-ness of the scene. I hardly doubt that the 2 mins lets you understand the extent of Lara Crofts so-said evolution.

Rape is a horrible thing that happens to people everywhere. It's a travesty that women and men alike should never have to go through. But it exists, and it is part of all forms of media. Why has this been such a big deal for people? Why do you spend time trying to destroy a company who put a less than 5 second attempted rape scene in a trailer to game that you don't even know how far it goes when you could be writing a bash article on other way creepier and darker books and videogames?

hmmm really's picture

when following your own advice if you read an article you dont like or agree with what should you do?? it feels very much like you have not liked something and decided to express an opinion that directly conflicts with your own actions. Or maybe your just a better person/gender from the author and so feel that you can dole out rules for people to follow but see your self above them!!

lefty's picture

good article... except that samus existed years before lara croft!

Die.'s picture

You're an idiot.

jankaas's picture

still can't find the word "rape" in that Ron bloke's quotes that you say are about Lara being raped or threatened with rape or sexual violence. that's just a rubbish thing to do Helen. why?

LLLookAtYouHacker's picture

No, watch the footage and see for yourself.

jankaas's picture

sure, so where's the link?

also i note that a new paragraph has been inserted caused apparently by people like me asking where the evidence. and the answer seems to be that there's a single article where it looks like someone may have been misquoted.
so until there is actual evidence i do think this is all like juggling smoke. i still feel mislead by the author of this article, and expect more thorough reporting from her.

Helen L's picture

Sorry, here's the transcript:

http://kotaku.com/5918193/tomb-raider-creators-are-no-longer-referring-t...

Helen L's picture

@ Jankaas

The link is in the update - there's a bit of the transcript of the tape in there. In the main text, there is a link through to the original piece where the word 'rape' is used. As the previous commenter has pointed out, you can also watch the trailer and see for yourself.

I'm not sure what else you want?

jankaas's picture

@Helen,
thanks for the extra info. in answer to your question "what else i want?" nothing beyond i wished you'd included all of this in your original article. ttfn

PatBenatar's picture

If it makes you feel any better, a lot of male gamers find this shit creepy too. Kaidan Alenko has made us a lot more comfortable with our inner snuggler.

MrHyde's picture

Did anyone watch the Rocky Movies? 1/3 he gets his a$$ kicked, second 1/3 he trains, last 1/3 he kicks a$$ ( gets revenge ). It's a formula. I didn't see the announcement, but are they following the same formula?

JJJ's picture

Not unless Clubber Lang tried to rape him in a deleted scene...

LLLookAtYouHacker's picture

I think the only “issue” here, is the reaction itself. I didn’t even imagine there would be a reaction, and in my perspective I question as to WHY such a reaction has occurred. I really do.

Utterly restricting its usage or promptly classifying it as surreptitious sexism, is to me an unassuming personification of insincerity and cowardice towards the crime (and victims of it.)

Cowardice partly being the cause of victim-blaming.

Rape is a catastrophic crime, with countless implications.

If the depiction is appropriate and realistic, then I believe It has its place, in pertinence to how those who subject it to jest can visualise a considerable representation of its realities.

MReinard's picture

To me it seems like one of the first real life game characters is trying to bridge the yahoo between games and films. There is a growing argument in games that even though you cash have great cut scenes and gameplay like in uncharted, mgs, even call of duty to some extent, the playing character is pretty much a killing psychopath. By really caring for your character, perhaps the developers are trying to make the players care more than where's the next save point. a.step.in the right direction I say.

McMac's picture

Rape Lara Croft!?

That's nothing. I personally have fed her to wolves, thrown her off cliffs and had her slaughtered a countless number of times. And I've enjoyed doing it too.

Do you think that you may be losing perspective in order to manufacture a stink?

The elephant in the room's picture

Pretty sexy photo thanks

iRule's picture

Definitely right!
sit cu jocuri

@StuartEmery's picture

Hey, lets "write" an article with very little facts and full of unfounded claims!

I think the title and tone of this article is rather misleading, answering your own question with your own clearly alarmist and disjointed slant does not convey much integrity.

I am a male gamer and played the first two tomb raider games because they were actually good games not because a game designer decided to attach digital melons to her chest. The later games were nowhere near as good and I dare not even mention the horrendous movie spinoffs or action figures with barbie-like proportions. The reason these things were not as good is because they relied on hype and dare I say it the 'sexual' side of the main character rather than on producing a good product.

At no point does the statement by Ron Rosenberg imply that Lara will be subjected to rape, attempted or otherwise. By your logic he would also be implying that Lara may be subjected to best iality should she happen to be set upon by a bear. Having a female character in a violent game in no way implies that she will be sexually violated by passing wildlife!

Everyone has heard of the saying 'sex sells', while it is clearly true it is also an obvious lazy and jaded approach to marketing a product. It is not just males who respond to this kind of approach, it is a simple fact of biology and we are as hardwired to respond to it as anything else in the animal kingdom. What makes us different from the animals however is our ability to analyse what we are seeing and also adjust our response to it.

At what point is what he saying in anyway new? All he is saying is they are going to have a few twists in the plot that mean when the 'Generic Character' thinks they are on top of the world they will be knocked back down again, probably in an equally generic way that we have seen a million times before.

Lets change Ron Rosenberg's statement around a little here to demonstrate my point.

"When you see 'them' have to face these challenges, you start to root for 'them' in a way that you might not root for a 'human' character . . . When people play 'Generic Character', they don't really project themselves into the character. They're more like 'I want to protect 'them'.' There's this sort of dynamic of 'I'm going to this adventure with 'them' and trying to protect 'them'' . . . The ability to see 'them' as a 'Generic Character' is even more enticing to me than the more sexualised version of yesteryear. 'They' literally go from zero to hero... we're sort of building 'them' up and just when 'they' gets confident, we break 'them' down again. . . 'they' are literally turned into a cornered animal. It's a huge step in 'their' evolution: 'they are' forced to either fight back or die

What we have here is not evidence just of the industries ignorance of what makes women tick, but what makes characters in general interesting. Why must we always start with these blank canvases that we must bestow character upon ourselves through the trials and tribulations of the gameplay? Why cant we play a game and unfurl the intricacies of a character, their mindset and histories as a part of the entertainment process. Quite frankly I am getting rather tired of taking Mr or Miss Boring on an action packed adventure of finding better weapons and then walking him or her to the end of each level after finding the appropriate keys.

I am extremely disappointed with this article and they way in which you have used a serious crime in order to 'sell it' to readers. Quite frankly you should be ashamed of yourselves, the New Statesman should be providing articles of quality and intelligence and sadly this is neither.

LLLookAtYouHacker's picture

No, the developers have confirmed that an attempted rape scene will be present. However, just "how far it goes" is currently indeterminable.

Pertaining to the "issue" in question, I think the only "issue" is the reaction itself. It's understandable that a feministic author would react so harshly, but then I can understand her anger in pertinence to the subject of rape. I didn't even imagine there would be a reaction, and in my perspective I question as to WHY such a reaction has occurred.

Surely by utterly restricting its usage or classifying it as surreptitious sexism, is an unassuming representation of disrespect in itself? If it's appropriate and realistic, then I believe It has its place, in pertinence to how those who subject it to jest can visualise it's realities.

andyg's picture

Strongly agree with all that you say Stuart.
Maybe we should campaign to have Lara dressed in a long dress with a floppy hat? This article looks for what isn't there and then demonises men for playing a game that involves a woman i.e to get the camera to look down her top. Stroll on, I've never read such garbage in years.
If you don't like the bleeding game woman then don't play it.

@StuartEmery's picture

I have noticed an update has been added to confirm the attempted rape due to the poor nature of this articles writing, it definitely smacks of a skewed rush to point a finger at an 'evil, sexist' industry. Its not just the games industry, its our entire society, show me one way in which the Euro 2012 or any other sport or activity promotes the female of the species as anything other than a walking clothes horse waiting for a man to sweep her off her feet.

As far as i'm concerned there is a biological and psychological difference between men and women, that is a fact. The work in progress is trying to get everyone to be treated and respected as individuals. This works both ways, I also cannot stand the 'lad and ladette' culture which objectifies the opposite sex as objects to be used, abused and discarded without a single thought for feelings or indeed dignity.

FumikoM's picture

Get your facts straight, yes Ron Rosenberg did say they, the scavengers in the game, will try to rape her. Also, if you don't see a problem with the sexist view that women needs to be protected then you're the one with a problem. When I play a game that have a woman as the protagonist, I identify with her. I never think I need to protect her.

@StuartEmery's picture

Actually the quote given in this article does not point to any rape attempted or otherwise, while after other research seems to imply that it maybe included in the final game my point still stands that this is being used as a pr ploy in much the same way as being a terrorist in Call of Duty. I say this not to diminish the crime of rape but to point out the sensationalist and gimmicky tactics of PR companies targeting social 'pressure points' in order to reap the rewards of increased circulation brought on by outrage.

Do you also identify with the male characters? How about the robots, aliens and various fauna in a game? Perhaps you also identify with Anders Breivik, Aileen Wuornos and Adolf Hitler?

Frankly I don't have to identify with a character, I just have to BELIEVE they are more than the usual one dimensional rubbish these lazy game designers seem to churn out.

This is still a poorly written article and your jibe that I am the one with the problem due to me being okay with the 'sexist' viewpoints in games means that you have completely missed my point. This is not simply a case of sexism but a more complex and underlying issue of a lack of character development and having a real understanding of them in order to drive the story. To yell sexism simply because the character in question happens to be female is itself sexist, however I am sure the irony is completely lost on you based on your complete lack of analysis and low-brow intelligence of your argument.

Helen L's picture

Hi Stuart,

I've updated the piece with the quote from Kotaku, where Rosenberg's comments were reported:

"And then, Rosenberg says, those scavengers will try to rape her."

If you watch the trailer, this scene - a man grabbing her and moving his hand down her body, and her fighting back - appears there. That there will be an attempted rape in the game is not in dispute.

The question now is: how will this be dealt with in the game? Rosenberg's less-than-sensitive comments, which seem blind to the ideal that not all gamers are heterosexual men who view women as damsels in distress, don't fill me with hope.

Missile Smile's picture

That there will be an attempted rape scene in the game is very much in dispute. What is depicted in the trailer would best be described as sexual assault. The scavenger may have been intending to rape Lara Croft or may have been intending to sexually assault her for a longer period of time than he was able to before he was fought off. Ron Rosenberg has interpreted the scene as an attempted rape, Karl Stewart (Crystal Dynamics' Brand Director) has said, remarkably, that what happens in the scene isn't even sexual assault. There's no evidence in the trailer that there is an attempted rape scene in the game, so, currently, I would highly dispute it unless you have additional information beyond the trailer and the information provided by the company's two representatives.

@StuartEmery's picture

Hi Helen,

Thank you for updating the article and providing the link and the follow up. I would argue that there is a certain element of a need to protect your character in all games. You certainly wouldn't play any game if you didn't care if the character you were playing lived or died.

Is it the attempted rape itself which is an issue? Or is it that the character who will suffer an attempted rape is female? I ask this because in Mafia 2 there is the attempted rape of the male character which definitely affected the way I felt about the character. Up until that point you think of him as a morally challenged mobster but stripped naked and fighting off his attackers to stop him being violated definitely made me feel like I had a 'duty' to protect him.

I understand that there may very well be some element of sexism in the development of the character but that it is merely a symptom of the general stereotyping and lack of originality in the industry. The fact that she stands up for herself and is not saved in the nick of time by a male character should at least show that they are not trying to portray her as a damsel. Also her distress may make this target audience of 'heterosexual men' think about the act of rape and maybe reflect on its affects, helping spread the message that it is a heinous crime.

I will admit that Rosenberg's comments do portray a lack of subtlety and probably betray his own sense of unease at broaching the subject. I suspect the scenes inclusion in the game was done so more to grab headlines such as yours rather than to tackle such a sensitive issue but to simply yell sexism because something bad happens to a woman and the guy who gave the quote is a bit of an oaf is a knee-jerk reaction.

FumikoM's picture

"To yell sexism simply because the character in question happens to be female is itself sexist"

How often do game developers talk about the feeling of wanting to protect when it comes to male heroes? Of course it's sexism. It's an old view of women seeing them as children. And that you don't like it when someone point it out is your problem.

@StuartEmery's picture

Again completely missing my point, just 3 off the top of my head I would say that my feelings of protection were definitely stronger than my bond of identification with the following male characters.

Mario - Hundred of Mario games
Link - Legend of Zelda games (please note she gets her name in the title not him)
Lester - Another World

And vice versa for females I don't feel a need to protect.

Faith - Mirrors Edge
Joanna Dark - Perfect Dark
Jade Champion - Interstate 76 Nitro riders

I also completely disagree with your opinion that the industry sees women as children, because women are mainly used in games as love interests and I have yet to see a pedophile love relationship portrayed in any game I have played.

I don't mind people pointing out that I have a problem, in fact I relish it as it gives me an excuse for self reflection, however you keep missing my point and seem to be trying to drive home your own poorly considered argument like a monkey with a stale turd in its hand.

andyg's picture

Let us not forget Stuart that in a number of Tomb raider games Lara has a male companion with her. Quite often her friends turn out to be the real villains who try to do Lara real harm.
Strongly agree again with your view point.

El Xetto's picture

I haven't been a "gamer" in the modern sense; I played Atari games as a kid but the original Tomb Raider was probably the _latest_ computer game I've played; but I've kept occasional tabs here and there through the grapevine.

I find your comments on Master Chief interesting in juxtaposition to your mention of Samus Aran. Samus in the original Metroid was effectively genderless until the END of the game, and even at third hand I heard about the shockwave that went through gaming when it was first discovered that "Samus is a WOMAN!" I'll bet THAT played games with the "bond" between gamers and the Samus character! Details and personal stories of the first-person experience of that transition would make an interesting article.

Sam Gisoad's picture

"I still cringe at such a graphic display of any woman or group of women being murdered. It would be similar were it a group of males. "

Probably best stick to different computer games then. I seem to recally quite a few of them are based on the premise that you kill people. Of either sex.

Miker's picture

This is ridiculous. Why does the video game medium always have to be positioned as the stepchild of entertainment media. I don't see anyone raging about 'The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo' or books that have equally offensive, much more extreme cases of rape depiction. It's about realism and engaging an audience in the end. Not like any of us have played the game yet but I seriously doubt this so called rape scene(s) goes anywhere beyond the initial attempt. Unfortunately (but realistically) a woman in danger may differ greatly from a man in danger. I'm gonna go ahead and trust the guys at Crystal Dynamics and Square Enix to know how to take care of a female protagonist. Ever since the trailers came out I've been completely and emotionally attached to Lara's character much more than ever before. Words have a way of being placed under a microscope, but artistically I understand what they're going for. Idk about anyone else but I think this Lara is empowering. It's a 'beat all the odds' kind of story. And she's proportionally built compared to the Lara's of yesteryear. I also agree that I've been sucked into this spin story, cheers!

Helen L's picture

Hi Mike,

I didn't go into this in the piece, but I find that the treatment of rape in Girl With A Dragon Tattoo (both books and films) to have been carefully thought-through. It's there because the central theme of the book is "men who hate women" (the original title), not just tossed in on a tick-list of "things we can do to a female character".

I hope that I've been clear enough in saying that perhaps Ron Rosenberg mis-spoke, not realising how his comments would come across, but certainly they gave me the impression that Crystal is not going to treat this subject with the caution and respect it deserves. If you read my other pieces, you'll know that I love games, and I believe in their ability to convey complex concepts.

I'm just not very confident that's what's going to happen here.

Miker's picture

Sry for the spamming, stupid iPhone...

CandyAppleFox's picture

He doesn’t say “gamers” he says “people” – meaning, everyone wants to “look after her”, ladies included. He also seems to imply that she’s moving away from the pin-up version of the old days. Did you even read what he said? I did. A classic and valid storytelling device is to make a character shift from one place to another, breaking them down is a way to explain that. Since she isn’t real, her fate must be invented and composed… it must also be compelling in diverse. No need to play the victim here thanks… It’s also just a game.

It’s… Just… a… game.

res's picture

maybe just me, but i got the impression you read too deeply into this. all of the promos they've shown for her have humanized her. From the video of her in the rain, injured, attempting to start a fire to keep warm to what Ron stated. Looks like a case of Scotomisation either by myself or you.. I'm leaning towards you.

Joe P's picture

Ah, fair dinkums, I stand corrected. I did try the link but my PC was playing silly buggers.

It's a shame that the industry can't bring itself to be a little more mature. That Hitman trailer with the murder of bondage-dressed nuns was abhorrent. Someone said "But they're clearly evil and not proper nuns" - to be honest, I don't really care what they are. It might be slightly old-fashioned of me, but I still cringe at such a graphic display of any woman or group of women being murdered. It would be similar were it a group of males.

BG's picture

"It would be similar were it a group of males."

So are you trying to say you "cringe at such a graphic display of any" *person* getting murdered? Why did you feel the need to specify women, and then amend that you would feel "similar" if it were men? Why not just say "anyone"?

Personally I think you cringe because it's women but you wouldn't cringe if it were men. Isn't that sexist? That it's ok for men to be murdered on screen but not ok for women to be murdered? How is that not sexist?

Or if you are to say you do not like seeing anyone murdered regardless of gender, your comment simply turns into, "That trailer was too gruesome for me," which is a wholly valid opinion, but has nothing to do with gender.

Bingly Bong's picture

"He got to run around with an awesome set of weaponry, no face and barely any voice, and yet mysteriously players managed to "project" themselves into him just fine."

Um, it is, of course, much EASIER to project yourself into a character without a face and the minimum of voice. Blank slate.

Joe P's picture

Really? Rape is what you read into that?

I recognize the general point you're trying to make regarding female representation in games and the ways to improve it or send it back to the stone age, however I think you've overthought this one somewhat. 'Cornered animal' can suggest threat of violence, etc - but there could be several factors that lead to this metaphorical 'cornering'. And in no way did I think 'Oh, they're trying to rape her' when I read the original article a couple of days back. The 'cornered animal' approach is equally compelling in male protagonists such as Nathan Drake, Batman, Master Chief etc - it's about survival against extreme odds.

It's fine if you want to guarantee readership and web traffic by using rape as your example, in which case, well done, as I have fallen for it as have many others. But this kind of overreaction in coverage can't exactly help the medium, or the representation of women in games, mature either.

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