Why do we let the Prudocracy police our sexual fantasies?
I masturbate. You masturbate. Let's not get our knickers in such a twist about it, says Martin Robbins.
By Martin Robbins Published 20 August 2012 13:33
I’m a "clit-licking beta-boy", according to some recent fan mail; an "unmanly" creature who only supports feminism out of some desperate need to get laid. As an insult it doesn’t really work. Beta Boy sounds like the Incredible Hulk’s side-kick (think about it), but in reality it’s just the desperately insecure phrasing of someone who considers themself an alpha male, and therefore isn’t one.
As for calling me a "clit-licker", well that’s basically the same as walking up to me in the street and shouting: “You give pleasure to ladies!” I can live with that. Unmanly? Well I'm not the one afraid of having my face near a vagina, or whining about how terribly unfair it is that I have to compete with women on equal terms.
Since childhood I've often been called a "wanker" - more recently a "smug wanker" - and even on the cusp of pubescence I could appreciate the irony in hearing this from teenage boys. Scientists say that in a typical urban environment you are never more than 50 metres away from somebody having a wank, and this great human impulse has driven many advances in technology - the iPad was invented specifically to solve the problem of getting a decent screen in bed with you to watch internet porn on, while the telegraph was constructed for the transmission of what Victorians called "fornigrams".
My point is there’s nothing "dirty", "perverse" or "deviant" about masturbation or clit-licking. A brain as powerful and sophisticated as mine can’t just be cold-booted in the morning, and masturbation is one of the best ways to fill the long minutes that elapse between the first signs of consciousness and the ability to crawl and signal basic emotions to others. Indeed, wanking is a powerful motivator – there’s only so long you can lie clutching a handful of your own sperm before disgust overwhelms laziness and forces you to the bathroom. Similarly, clit-licking is a relaxing and efficient pursuit that requires little more than lying on your back, letting a lady sit on your face, and trying to avoid suffocation.
It’s all good wholesome fun, and yet there's an alarming tendency in modern society to demonize anybody with sexual preferences more adventurous than the Kellogg brothers, who of course pioneered the use of Cornflakes to discourage masturbation. (I’m not sure how this was supposed to work - presumably people were put off by the noise and the chaffing and the yellow crumbs everywhere.)
Simon Walsh, recently cleared of possessing "extreme pornography", is only the latest in a long line of public figures whose private sexual preferences have been used against them. A recent Daily Mail report on his case opened with:
"A gay former aide to Boris Johnson admitted to being a sadomasochist who enjoys a 'strange sex life' but denied possession of extreme images . . ."
It’s hard not to admire such a brutally Orwellian bit of phrasing: note the irrelevant reference to his homosexuality; the use of "strange" to define his sexual preferences, the framing of his statements as an "admission", as if sadomasochism were a crime to be guilty of; the use of "but" to imply a contradiction between the Mail’s description of Walsh and his denial.
Compare and contrast with the opening paragraphs of this report on Max Mosley:
“The bizarre sex life of motorsport supremo Max Mosley was described to a court in all its lurid detail yesterday. He admitted indulging in sadomasochism and corporal punishment - and paying women to act out fantasies with him. But the 68-year-old son of Fascist leader Oswald Mosley strongly denied a Sunday newspaper's claim that...”
It’s all there again: "bizarre", "admission", "but" - the similarity is uncanny. Written four years apart, carrying different by-lines, these paragraphs were born of the same editorial assembly line that smeared the likes of Stephen Gateley.
Implicit in many of these stories is the idea that having such deviant tastes and desires renders one somehow unfit for society. “Primary school teacher who led double life as kinky sex dominatrix is free to continue working with children,” screamed one headline last year, the implication crystal clear. In fact the woman in question didn’t offer sex, and even if she had it is unclear why this would make her more unsuitable for working in a school than anyone else having regular, consensual sex. Whisper it quietly, but I suspect most parents of school-children have had sex at least once in their lives.
The faux-puritanical use of sexuality as a smear is galling when it comes from publications who routinely publish pictures of bikini-clad women to boost hit rates, but even more sinister is the selectively-applied denial of the distinction between fantasy and reality. The "porn trial" and the "Twitter joke trial" are two recent examples of this: a pair of follies pursued at great personal and public expense by stubborn-headed prosecutors, who in both cases were either unwilling or unable to grasp the distinction between our imaginations and our real world actions. Simon Walsh poses as great a threat to society as Paul Chambers does to Robin Hood airport, or Dan Brown does to the Pope. I can’t imagine what it must be like to be the kind of person to whom this is not immediately obvious.
The distinction between reality and fantasy is particularly important in the world of adult entertainment, which is subjected to more double-standards than virtually any other form of entertainment. Dress up in a Nazi uniform and pretend to kill British soldiers in a Hollywood movie and it’s all good clean fun, but show off your swastika thong at an orgy and your crotch will trigger global outrage. If a sexy woman in a skin-tight cat-suit slaughters people in The Avengers that’s perfectly acceptable, but put death or violence in the context of porn flick and suddenly it’s dark, evil and possibly criminal.
Of course there are many fetishes and sub-fetishes that involve death or a close simulation – strangulation or voraphilia for example – but they don’t tend to involve actually finding a corpse sexy; often the turn-on for fans is the extreme exhibition of power, or their complete surrender to it. More importantly, our fantasies have little connection with what we would choose to do in real life. An ex-girlfriend of mine liked to randomly pounce on me around the house, but if a random woman tried to surprise-sex me on the tube I’d probably do what I usually do when women I don’t know try to touch me, which is to turn bright red and enter a catatonic state. People with a strangulation fetish don’t wander the streets looking for victims, and women who fantasise about rape scenarios don’t actually want to be raped.
Fantasies are just fantasies, to be acted out in our imaginations or in safe environments with like-minded, consenting adults. Law-makers and prosecutors have the right to regulate the things we do in public, but their willingness to police and censor the dream worlds of our gloriously kinky imaginations is far more sinister than any Nazi-themed BDSM orgy.
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Pavlova, did you write on this thread by mistake?
Women being exploited... Girls enduring pain....
Perhaps the best way for you to ascertain that women and men enjoy fulfilling their fantasies just as much, is to come to the next, very legal-very consnesual Torture Garden party. You will be surprised to see how many women wear expensive nazi uniforms and luxurious, impossibly restrictive corsets, rubber outfits and the like. No, not for money, and they are not weirdoes or submissed by horrible vicious male parntners: they pay good money for a ticket for a night of underground music, party athmosphere and kinky, sexy fun.
Get off your keyboard and have some fun, as kinky as your fantasies need. If you are half decent looking, there will be a queue of men AND women volunteering to help you.
Pavlova, did you write on this thread by mistake?
Women being exploited... Girls enduring pain....
Perhaps the best way for you to ascertain that women and men enjoy fulfilling their fantasies just as much, is to come to the next, very legal-very consnesual Torture Garden party. You will be surprised to see how many women wear expensive nazi uniforms and luxurious, impossibly restrictive corsets, rubber outfits and the like. No, not for money, and they are not weirdoes or submissed by horrible vicious male parntners: they pay good money for a ticket for a night of underground music, party athmosphere and kinky, sexy fun.
Get off your keyboard and have some fun, as kinky as your fantasies need. If you are half decent looking, there will be a queue of men AND women volunteering to help you.
Pavlova, did you write on this thread by mistake?
Women being exploited... Girls enduring pain....
Perhaps the best way for you to ascertain that women and men enjoy fulfilling their fantasies just as much, is to come to the next, very legal-very consnesual Torture Garden party. You will be surprised to see how many women wear expensive nazi uniforms and luxurious, impossibly restrictive corsets, rubber outfits and the like. No, not for money, and they are not weirdoes or submissed by horrible vicious male parntners: they pay good money for a ticket for a night of underground music, party athmosphere and kinky, sexy fun.
Get off your keyboard and have some fun, as kinky as your fantasies need. If you are half decent looking, there will be a queue of men AND women volunteering to help you.
Re: "clit-licking is a relaxing and efficient pursuit that requires little more than lying on your back, letting a lady sit on your face, and trying to avoid suffocation."
I've never ever done it that way. I've always kept the lady on her back, knees up, and I'm usually holding her wrists so she needn't try to keep from thrashing (when I'm not using my hands to stroke her or elevate her bottom). My head has free range of motion, and suffocation is not an issue. This gives me all the advantages of a musician, with the lady being at once both instrument and audience -- allowed to devote her full attention to just feeling.
It's hard to generalize about 'modern society' and easy to demonize it. On the one hand, we've made leaps and bounds of progress in society's sexual arena, but on the other hand, there are still battles that need to be won.
Personally, I'm all for taking a page from the Mormon playbook and having brilliant minds like the one behind this blog contribute to doing their part to change the world - one heart at a time.
Having only recently enjoyed a damn good Mosleyesque thrashing at the hands of a Romanian rentboy, I thought I could count myself among the more adventurous members of the sexually enlightened community. I am therefore thoroughly ashamed to admit that I had to look up the meaning of 'voraphilia'. Good heavens!
You should join our game.
Sex is sex
violence is violence
sexual violence is violence
sexual submission and dominance should remain as sexual pleasure and not fringe upon violence...simples?
Simples is not a real word and makes you sound simple which undermines the sense of your comment
What exactly is your definition of sexual violence? I don't assume thrusting hard would count, and biting or a firm slap on the ass probably doen't either. Now, maybe you draw the line at hitting someone in the face, but how is that so different from an ass smack? If a person can gauge the 'apropriate' level of force in one hit, then why would they not be able to for another? As long as there's a mutual understanding of limits, and noone is seriously injured, who are you to judge?
Your body and how you enjoy it is your's, anyone else's is there own business.
'Simples?'
Yes. Enough said.
While the underlying argument of this article is fairly good there is such a thing as 'too much information'.
However, this was interesting 'in a typical urban environment you are never more than 50 metres away from somebody having a wank'
Does this figure (the distance) decrease within Westminster, or, for that matter the city square mile?
I don't really understand this article. Who is complaining about people masturbating or having fantasies?
Porn isn't a fantasy, it's real. Those are real people you're watching doing real things, you're real too. It's reality.
Is male masturbation the equivalent of abortion? However, female self-pleasuring does not seem to have any procreational aspect to it. Vive la difference!
When holographic porn is perfected or humanoid robots created than God help us all.
Would you believe it?
If it makes you feel better I think you're a smug, tedious blowhard. No pun intended.
The difficulty with attempting to distinguish between what is and is not acceptable based on concerns about misogynistic propaganda is that it risks eliding the right of women to make certain sexual choices, including the choice to be visibly involved in certain activities (whether for money or pleasure). It would indeed be good to have a serious discussion about this, but in doing so we must appreciate that i is a complex, nuanced issue. In the debate that preceded the introduction of the Extreme Pornography law, some good suggestions were made around models parts of the porn industry already use, such as ending sequences of porn that could be interpreted as 'violent' with the 'victim(s)' and 'assailant(s)' smiling or laughing together, sending the message that it is fantasy, a bit of fun, and that those engaging in it don't want its users to take it seriously.
Sorry, but I'm not buying the "it's their choice" argument for misogynist entertainment. We don't accept that argument in favour of other types of discriminatory practises and entertainment, we don't say about freak shows and disfigured people, "it's their choice", or say it about tramps prepared to fight or drink urine in return for cash and a role in Bum Wars, or dwarves who are prepared to be thrown by rugby players. Nor do we say it about people prepared to televise their suicides or executions. We'll happily boycott a supermarket product we don't think has been traded fairly.
The fact that there are millions of women in the world who are prepared to harm themselves or be harmed to titilate men is no secret and that's one problem, no doubt not unconnected to the millions of girls who are sexually abused as children. The fact that many are prepared to do so on camera is a logical extension of this tendency. Regardless of whether we ever get round to tackling that massive social problem, their bad and dangerous choices don't have to be legitimised, encouraged or exploited by society.
I haven't ever seen an argument advanced for why we should treat human sexuality differently to other human desires and interests. Why the tendency towards being entertained by sexist sexual degradation and violence should get different treatment to the tendency to be entertained by racist degradation and violence or indeed racist sexual violence. The fact that sex is involved should be no excuse, should it?
I think we're getting blinded by tingly feelings and can't look at what is going on dispassionately.
Uniformed bigoted bullcrap...in so many ways it it hard to believe, however lets look at your myths and prejudices more closely.
"Sorry, but I'm not buying the "it's their choice" argument for misogynist entertainment. "
You do understand don't you that Mosely was submissive, i.e beaten by women and Walsh gay? The largest single group within BDSM (looking for partners at least) is submissive men. It may not fit with your narrow world view but there are male subs/Dommes, lesbian BDSMers and even people in D/s relationships who have no sexual contact whatsoever.
"The fact that there are millions of women in the world who are prepared to harm themselves or be harmed to titilate men is no secret "
Newsflash, people (you again seem obsessed with heterosexual women) submit because it brings them pleasure. I know, isn't human sexuality a wonderful thing ? Some get turned on by being bought flowers and chocolates (or at least that's what movies seem to suggest) others like me by a cane across the buttocks. Yes, that's right, I orgasm when I submit. Submission I consent to as an adult woman of sound mind.
Ahh but from your BDSm hating tower you have an answer for this too...
" no doubt not unconnected to the millions of girls who are sexually abused as children."
Oddly you are not the first small minded anti who has said this, and so there has been research. There is no correlation between enjoying BDSM and sexual abuse as children. Sorry to burst that particular bubble of concern trolling.
"I haven't ever seen an argument advanced for why we should treat human sexuality differently to other human desires and interests."
Me neither, so if I choose to be beaten, enjoy it, and want to photograph and film it as a memento of a wonderful time why should it differ from the train spotter or musician who collects videos of their favourite moments? It is only unfounded beliefs, an anti sex attitude, bigotry and ignorance which would classify my hobby as anything different from theirs.
Not sure it will help, but a part of me hopes you are simply misinformed rather than willfully repeating uninformed ideas. You might enjoy reading the blog I contribute to, sadly the spam filters here wont let me put a link, but google Itsjustahobby BDSM at least you may think before you get on your high horse about the sexual activities of others.
(use the tags, there is a whole feminism section, shocking I know, I must have written them whilst being oppressed)
good post Jemima, though i will hazard a guess you won;t get a response.
in my experience, those people who denounce certain acts of sexual activity between consenting adults, do so in the firm belief that the participants are mentally deficient. this a priori position means that any meaningful dialogue is impossible. they literally and truly believe that the likes of you and i are lunatics.
"The fact that there are millions of women in the world who are prepared to harm themselves or be harmed to titilate men is no secret and that's one problem, no doubt not unconnected to the millions of girls who are sexually abused as children."
now there are 2 enormous claims, seemingly plucked out of your well meaning imagination. do you have actual evidence that women are literally harmed when titilating men?
and, that women who engage in this titilation had to have been abused as children?
reading your post i have a hunch that you think the following, despite what actual women who engage in this titilation say; Women who participate in this type of titilation are damaged by definition so they can't be consenting adults.
and, all forms of pornography are harmful by definition.
am i right or am i right?
"Sorry, but I'm not buying the "it's their choice" argument for misogynist entertainment"
Will you buy the "most of them get off on it, like ... a lot" argument?
Assuming here that "misogynist entertainment" refers at least to such things as BDSM with male top and female bottom. If that's your problem then I'm sorry to have to disillusion you, sure, there are some people with messed up backgrounds who get into to please their men. There's a very great number however who just really get turned on by it. And who are psychologically normal. I know it may seem strange but try talking to these people, it's actually true.
Martin Robbins confirmed for massive beta.
"Our journalist then made an excuse and left"
The essence of the British Press, then and Now.
Also the clue to the British character -writer/reader.
Personally, I don't think it's the "giving pleasure" aspect that anyone is much worried about.
What concerns me and alot of other people I think, is where sex is being used as a shield for misogynistic propaganda. Where girls and women are basically being sexually abused (either in jest or for real) in return for money. The reasoning that it's okay because there is an audience for it seems to be rather circular: there's always an audience for discriminatory propaganda, that's why it works, that's why it's dangerous. The fact that it gives you an orgasm while watching it seems to be an aggravating rather than a mitigating factor.
I'd prefer it if we started breaking this debate down into material that is sexual (that's one argument about acceptability) and into material that is incitement to hatred and/or other types of crime (which is another argument about acceptability). And I'd like it if we got to a situation in our society where material that indulges in harmful stereotypes and exploitation of women was regarded in the same way as material that does this to protected groups of men (homosexuals, black men, disabled people, etc).
People who are concerned about these developments are being mislabeled as prudes. They're no more prudish than people who don't like computer games that make entertainment out of hunting down Jews; many of us have very open attitudes towards sex. Because of this mislabeling, we limit the argument over acceptability to underage viewers only, as if this is just a matter of maturity, instead of grappling with whether it's something we want adults to be consuming either.
I think the problem here, the reason people are getting so confused, lumping in issues of discrimination with issues of censorship is that sex/gender isn't included in the anti-hate legislation.
Good article but I think it misses out on the push by the mainstream for people to indulge in 'controlled deviancy'. I'm thinking Cosmo-esque crap here.
"Touch his ar5ehole, he'll secretly love it! But don't dare put anything in it because if he likes it he may be a deviant homosexual!"
I'd liken it to breakfast. You can eat all manner of fat and meat in between bread for a breakfast, bacon, sausage, egg, blackpudding, etc. But as soon as you eat a burger at 10.30am you're considered some kind of weirdo. Cultural imposition at it's worst (OK, a strained metaphor and perhaps slightly over the top)!
everyone who posts on this thread is a w4nker.
(funny how the profanity filter won't allow the same words used as the article itself....)
'publications who routinely publish pictures of bikini-clad women to boost hit rates,' - as opposed to this article with a bikini-clad woman for no good reason?
Apart from that, good article although you could have addressed the paradox of social demonizing of the people you mentioned and the 50 Shades phenomenon, which has greatly boosted sales at Ann Summers. That's a sort of a sanitised deviancy.
"well that’s basically the same as walking up to me in the street and shouting: “You give pleasure to ladies!”"
I agree with the entirety of the sentiment behind this article, but you have to admit that this phrase sounds like a) it's missing an *actually* between 'well' and 'that's' and b) should probably be read out in Alan Partridge's voice. Just saying.
"there's an alarming tendency in modern society to demonize anybody with sexual preferences more adventurous than the Kellogg brothers"
Really? Modern society seems to send out the signals that engaging in the three typical positions -- i.e. man-on-top, woman-on-top, doggy -- was regarded as indicative of a boring sex life. At least for anyone born after 1960.
Sexual preferences aren't so related to the position one has sex in, though. Of course it may be a factor, but the outcries listed above aren't based on whether one likes to do it standing up.