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Does bisexuality exist? 400 women called Sarah say yes

Julie Bindel questioned the existence of bisexuality. But 400 women called Sarah disagree.

Sarah Bernhardt, bisexual actress. Photograph: Getty Imag
Sarah Bernhardt, bisexual actress, pictured here in 1890. Photograph: Getty Images/Hulton Archive.

Does bisexuality exist? Julie Bindel caused a storm of debate when she wrote an article for the Huffington Post last week questioning “the concept of swinging both ways”. She said that “if bisexual women had an ounce of sexual politics, they would stop sleeping with men”, and cited a US study of 400 self-identified lesbians and bisexuals, which found that “some bisexual women actually doubt whether bisexual women exist at all."

That may be Bindel’s evidence, but 400 women named Sarah disagree. A Facebook group set up to protest against Bindel’s dismissal of bisexuality set out to find at least 400 women with the same name who believe that bisexuality does exist.

It took its inspiration from Project Steve, which opposed a list of scientists who doubted evolution by compiling a much longer list of “scientists called Steve” who supported it.

The criteria for signing up was simple:

To join this group you don't have to identify as bisexual, or know lots of bisexual women. You just have to be called Sarah** and believe that:
- some women, whether or not called Sarah, are attracted to more than one gender
- some women, whether or not called Sarah, choose to label themselves bisexual, and that's nobody else's business

At the time of writing this, there were 465 members. Point made.
 

55 comments

Ninjamynci's picture

Yes, all people give their real names on Facebook. Facebook verifies that every single account belongs to a real person and there are no fake profiles on there at all...

Mr Humanus Wright's picture

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John Cheese's picture

If you carry on over a mobile device, are you considered a "wi-fi-sexual"???

Hu Ru's picture

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insontams's picture

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Soph A's picture

You love who you love and are attracted to who you are attracted to. It is totally possible to be sexually attracted to both sexes. These days it is about so much more than that! I wish everyone would let people call themselves what they want and stop trying to designate what definitions we are allowed!

Sandra D. Robinson's picture

People get attracted to other people, and sometimes they are same sex attractions. we can either choose to act on those attractions and be sexual, or we can choose to be platonic. Why the need for labels?
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Gina Al's picture

Bisexuality exists a long time ago, long before people realize that it exists. But who are we to judge them, some are very vocal about it and yet some keep it as their secrets. Let us keep this in mind though that there is consequence in our actions.

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Adamsh's picture

I have 2 bisexual.they have different way of life, but they trully are good people,
And on my part, they will be no judgment.
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Tom Hennessy's picture

People who have Downs' Syndrome are not 'evolutionary'. Downs' Syndrome is a medical anomaly , a medical condition , JUST like those in the LBGTQ community are a medical anomaly , having a medical condition , hypogonadism.
This medical condition , hypogonadism, afflicting those in the LBGTQ community oftentimes is reversable .
"We conclude that phlebotomy alone may be adequate treatment for hypogonadotropic hypogonadism "
"Complete reversibility of hypogonadotropic hypogonadism with intensive venesection"

"We believe that hypogonadotropic hypogonadism in juvenile hemochromatosis may be reversible by a consequent venesection therapy probably because treatment was intensive and promptly introduced at a young age."

The lack of hormones is thought to be why men 'become homosexual' later in life.

"Might it be that some or many men who lose interest in their wives in middle age and “come out” as gay are in fact responding to the profound influence of unknown and unidentified hormone changes?"

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/attention-please/201008/sex-hormones...

fact-checking preference's picture

(Note: I've had to edit this comment 10+ times trying to figure out what is causing the profanity filter to reject it. I originally had the URLs for the quotes below, but you can easily find them via Google. Why doesn't the filter just explain what the problem is? Sigh.)

Searching for your first quote alone (phlebotomy? the drawing of blood?), one can easily discover that you've trimmed facts to fit what you want to be true. The original quote is:

"We conclude that phlebotomy alone may be adequate treatment for hypogonadotropic hypogonadism in men with hemochromatosis."

In men with hemochromatosis. You cut that out.

"Hemochromatosis is too much iron in the body. It is also called iron overload." So of course getting rid of excess blood improves conditions associated with hemochromatosis. If giving blood cured LBGTQ-ness , I would have been heter0sexual a long time ago.

Hormone changes affect everyone over the course of our lives. I probably shouldn't have bothered replying, but come on, phlebotomy? And hormones changing the way we feel? That's universal and just one part of the fascinating puzzle of ourselves.

DMyers's picture

I have an idealistic point of view, but I think it's time we got past these ridiculous 'gay', 'straight', 'bi' labels. Sexuality is a very fluid concept for many people, which is fine; it's also a very rigid (no pun intended) concept for others, which is also fine. If we just accepted the fact that people are attracted to people, regardless of gender, we'd all get along a hell of a lot better.

well's picture

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McMac's picture

“some bisexual women actually doubt whether bisexual women exist at all."

So the bisexual women, who by self definition don't exist, doubt their existence, where as, the majority of bisexual women, who do exist, don't doubt their own existence, but probably doubt the existences of bisexual women who claim they don't.

I'm glad Ms. Bindel has been able to clear up the confusion.

Longhairgirls's picture

No word will be spoken Long Hairs

anon3's picture

Fri, 2012-06-15 11:49 — Hikaru22: "Freud thought that human beings were basically bisexual (or omnisexual, one might say), and that which particular aspects of this potential were realised during the course of their lifetimes depended very much upon domestic and wider social conditioning. I am inclined to agree with him."

Me too. What I would also say is, with all the hardcore porn out there being watched (don't deny it) and more particularly seeping into society through the younger generation, we will see 'bisexuality' spread. Whichever way you happen to swing, you're watching an awful lot of the other when you watch hardcore.

Lenzie's picture

My understanding is that natural is what occurs in nature....and all manner of things occur in nature!

Jennie Kermode's picture

Of all the prejudiced remarks levelled at those with stigmatised sexual orientations or genders, "you don't exist" has to be the weirdest. Whom is it intended to convince? It leaves me feeling like an urban spaceman.

Furry Canary's picture

This kind of initiative is prejudiced against those of us with unusual names.

Xtremeno's picture

Yes i have many friends who are bisexual. They have a very different life style from us. First I was not sure of all these, but after have couple of friend.. they are really nice people...
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Euan McArthur's picture

Bindel sexual "politics" are essentially one of quietude, rather than negation or transcendence. Rather than attempting to move past a patriarchal, sexist society - one in which all forms of desire can flourish as they please - which we should not deny the existence of, she chooses to withdraw into "private" sexual "deviance" from the norm, leaving these structures in tact. If men or heterosexual relationships are inherently domineering over women then we fall into the most crude sexual determinism, and the space for emancipatory politics or sexualities are shut down. Such views, and the "positive choice" she has made, are symptomatic of such a sex-divided society, rather than providing a solution to it. If women face "compulsory heterosexuality", and you are aware of this, then make a voluntary decision to be a heterosexual, bisexual or homosexual, and then move from there to ensuring that this society is abolished.

At the same time, we shouldn't shy away from the idea of critiquing sexuality. Clearly, heterosexuality is absolutely natural (at some base level, the logical and empirical evidence for it is simply too persuasive), homosexuality probably isn't, though much of sexuality is historically contingent. I can say I was born with the brain of a unicorn, I could be born into a slave society and completely identify with my position as "natural", but it does not mean that either of these are part of my essence. But Bindel's pressupositions are absurd.

Louise McCudden's picture

Monogamy isn't really natural, is it?

But who cares?

What is natural?

I'm on the internet right now, my keyboard is made of plastic.

Natural sucks.

McMac's picture

There's no such thing as un-natural, just stuff that church, law, the people next door, your mum, don't like you doing.

AllyF's picture

@EuanMcArthur

"Clearly, heterosexuality is absolutely natural (at some base level, the logical and empirical evidence for it is simply too persuasive), homosexuality probably isn't, though much of sexuality is historically contingent."

What on earth do you mean by "natural"?

There's a very good case to be made that defined categories of sexuality are a social invention, but if that's what you mean, then heterosexuality is every bit as unnatural as homosexuality or bisexuality.

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