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Hugh Grant: tabloid scrutiny is like living under the Stasi

In the wake of his New Statesman scoop, the actor debates privacy and superinjunctions.

Newsnight tackled the issue of privacy and injunctions last night and its panellists included Hugh Grant, Helen Wood (the prostitute in the Rooney case), the journalist Fraser Nelson and the lawyer Charlotte Harris.

"I don't have many strongly held beliefs but I do believe in human rights . . . and a very basic right is the right to privacy," said Grant. "I do think it is a massive scandal . . . that, for a number of years now, our tabloid newspapers have been able to invade privacy without much recourse.

"Some cases [are] for good reason but many of the celebrity exposés are purely for profit, so to me there's no distinction between mugging someone for their wallet and their watch and selling it on the street and mugging them for their privacy and selling it in a newspaper."

Asked by Emily Maitlis how tabloid scrutiny affects his life, Grant said:

It's a bit like living under the Stasi. You never know if there's a long lens in the bushes at the end of my road . . . I've had my phone hacked -- the police have told me that now. They're always looking for anyone you might have been in contact with, any hotel you might have stayed at -- they might go and talk to them, try to pay them off. I'm not a perfect person by any means but it doesn't feel right that, just because you've had a bit of success, in this country one of your most basic human rights is removed.

Grant added that he was "very pleased with this whole injunction business" , as without a steady diet of celebrity kiss'n'tells, tabloids would go out of business. "There's very little journalism done in those papers now," he said. "It's mainly stealing successful people's privacy and selling it."

The Spectator editor (and News of the World columnist) Fraser Nelson then tried to argue that the press was already effectively regulated by the PCC. "You can't say that in a serious voice," chipped in Grant.

Nelson said that his magazine received "lots" of letters from the regulatory body and took them seriously. Grant was unimpressed: "The PCC is the laughing stock of the world. Utterly toothless."

He said that even in "outrageous" cases, such as when the Mirror printed his medical records, "You might get a tiny little thing saying 'Hugh Grant's complaint against the Mirror has been upheld' on page 96."

Charlotte Harris, a lawyer at Mishcon, backed Grant, saying that the PCC weren't effective -- "and weren't interested in phone-hacking". She said that behind almost every tabloid splash was a cash negotiation of what the story was worth.

The former escort Helen Wood then argued that injunctions were unfair because the man involved was protected while she wasn't -- which sounds like an argument for making the system fairer and making injunctions available to those without tens of thousands of pounds to spare, rather than scrapping them.

Afterwards, it was time for round two of Grant v Nelson, with the actor telling the journalist: "If someone came after your privacy . . . and said Fraser Nelson is getting up to all kinds of mischief with this girl who's dressed as a nun and likes to spank him in a nappy . . ."

"That would never get out, that story," interjected Nelson.

"I don't believe that story either," conceded Grant. "But you would take out an injunction to try to stop it."

It's worth watching the programme in full as the debate is a cracker, with Harris explaining the difference between injunctions and superinjunctions, and Grant admitting, "men are naughty" and complaining of the "successive pussy governments" that have refused to tackle the problem.

Before the discussion, there's also the treat of Kelvin MacKenzie intoning this ominous warning: "I have a piece of information which will rather nicely depth-charge a cabinet minister, probably towards the end of next week when I publish it in my column."

19 comments

PeteyMcPeterson's picture

I'm not terribly au fait with celebrity culture but Hugh Grant strikes me as a decent enough sort of chap. I wonder if he's ever used his fame for his own ends?

It makes me laugh to hear celebrities complaining about media invasion of their privacy, then the next day selling stories to the tabloid and using them to tout their next perfume or workout video or biography. Many celebrities would be out of the job if it wasn't for the media intrest machine churning out boring stories about them. There should definately be a way of bowing out of the public eye, but you can't have your cake and eat it.

Phil's picture

It begs belief that people are failing to see the real issue here, and instead reply based upon their personal feelings towards Hugh Grant.

I could take him or leave him, but the man makes a good point. The rags of so-called daily "journalism" are a scandalous joke, and an embarrassment to the country.

Buying a red-top is a clear indication of your incredible stupidity (or daily need to see a topless girl at 8.30 in the morning), however the lack of proper journalism doesn't end just with these. They're all just as bad as each-other.

The only believable things in british newspapers, are the date, the footy scores, and perhaps the weather (if it says "rain").

Kathryn's picture

I read his New Statesman article and I thought it was terrific. I think celebrities are entitled to privacy just as much as the next person. It's great that people are talking about this, and I give Hugh Grant a lot of credit for that.

Spud Middleton's picture

"I don't have many strongly held beliefs, but I do believe in human rights..."

Well I'd have thought that a belief in 'human rights' amounted to a fair old number personally; at least for anybody who gave the slightest fuck about the physical and mental well-being of humanity as a whole...and not just the right of a pampered few to do whatever they like without drawing attention to themselves...

...especially when every aspect of their professional lives -their effective route to 'pamperedness'- involves drawing attention themselves, cravenly seeking our attention, in fact, at every turn.

The other aspect of this whole 'debate' which puzzles me is the idea that only celebrities suffer this 'intrusion'. I happen to know that if it were to come out that I was being "spanked by a girl dressed as a nun", it would soon filter through to all sorts of people who would lap it up, throw it at me at every opportunity and try to embarrass me relentlessly for years...far longer, probably than was the case for most celebs for whom the circus moves on. These things are relative.

In my smallish personal and professional circle, it would be devastating...at least if I gave a fuck.

That said: a) I'd be in constant fear of the creak on the stairs indicating the approach of Mrs Spud, carving knife in hand and reconstructive genital surgery on her mind.

b) Supposing I decided to 'come clean', I'd be denied the chance of a seven figure pay-out from the News of the World for my candid "Spud's Spanking Shame" revelations. I dare say the sub I was put through too might manage a "Spud Who?...fuck off" before slamming down the phone.

c) I went to a Catholic primary school in the late 60s; I have been spanked by several women dressed as nuns...can't recall it was especially arousing, but it was better than getting kept in at playtime.

abrahamander717's picture

Oh boo hoo. A gross insult to those who actually suffered under the Stasi. Stop indulging this whining luvvie.

luke neave's picture

It amazes when people justify the level of intrusion by the media on the basis of such flimsy reasoning as "they sold a story to the press". It's a symbiotic relationship, one gets publicity the other sells newspapers.

It does not excuse the sort of surveillance of a person's activities that you would expect to read about when the police go undercover to tackle a criminal network.

The phone hacking scandal was the inevitable consequence of media disregard for celebrities having any right to privacy if they put themselves in the public eye.

Mr. Divine's picture

The price for being a face.

Sandra's picture

The price for being what the French call "une cocotte masculine", always on the lookout for publicity and admirers.

michal karski's picture

Useful debate on 'Newsnight'.

Of course good investigative journalism has a vital role to play, but it's a matter of some concern when successive governments appear to bow to powerful corporate interests.

Whatever you may have thought of Margaret Thatcher's politics, did the lady ever quake before the press barons? I rather think they quaked before her...

Grace's picture

the man at 50 is still unable to sort out his relationships with women, and tries to make all the world guilty???

Grace's picture

Maybe it is a surprise for mr. Grant, but we all live in a SOCIETY, and, maybe it is also a surpise for mr. Grant, but all of us are interested in personal life of ALL others, not only celebrities'. And as soon as he is a public person, everybody will always be interested in his personal life. Don't fight with windmills, mr. Don Quixote!!! :)))

Barny's picture

If Hugh hadn't got nicked with a whore in Hollywood some time back perhaps they'd be less interested?

hugh markey's picture

You don't need the Stasi when you've got a free press! And Facebook! And Twitter!

Bugsy

Paul Dacre, Chair, PCC's picture

I agree, sounds like a real cracker of a show, downloading it now from thebox.bz

I always thought Hugh fairly Leftish, as he clearly likes ethnic and opprsssed women, and quite possibly even pays them a fair wage ;)

As for the oik Nelson, my goodness, is he saying that story will never get out, because it's true, and he already has a SI on it? Or one of his big-shot Tory buddies is happy to censor any reference upon request? :rollseyes:

paul miller's picture

thatcher DID quake before murdoch,i thought everyone knew that. all prime ministers are terrified of him.

Thomas Devine's picture

Mr. Grant's celebrity status is a valuable property. He wasn't really an important person, beyond the fact that he was important enough of a Star that his interest in a script could help get a film made. The public had little or no legitimate interest in his private life.

We know now, that back in the 1940's and 50's Larence Olivier and Danny Kaye had an on and off Romantic relationship. Had that affair been exposed back in the 1940's both men would have gone to jail and most of Danny Kaye's films and Olivier's later stage work woul;d never have happened. Would that have been better?

If the right to persuse a career in the popular arts is only availible to either the sexlessly "pure" or those so emotionally dead as not to care about the endless prying eyes, what do we lose? Should Fleet Street and it's creepy American offspring be the arbiters of taste for us all?

Wrensense's picture

I think perhaps if people looked at their obsession with the lives of "stars" it would tell them about their own lives and how society is organized.
How they are manipulated , often for the God of profit or the seekers of power.

Herbert's picture

'... many of the celebrity exposes are purely for profit...'

Bring me the smelling salts. I can't believe the words 'celebrity' and 'profit' can appear in the same sentence.

Tom's picture

Celebs are entitled to privacy. However, nobody's entitled to abuse superinjunctions.

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