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Freeborn John
04 November 2009 at 14:08

The depth of the recession if Ireland is due to the Euro. A decade of inappropriate low eurozone rates fueled a borrowing binge, and construction and financial services boom there, which led directly to the enormous bust. The UK would be in this same terrible situation, much worse than it now faces, had Brown not kept the UK out of the Euro.

dorothy wilson
04 November 2009 at 15:29

For goodness sake grow up! All MPs were elected on the basis of a manifesto commitment to a referendum on the EU Constitution aka the Lisbon Treaty. Labour and the LibDems reneged on that promise. The Conservatives would have kept it. Brown sneaked in through the back door to sign the Treaty - he hadn't even got the guts to do it in full view. Once he has done so, there is little point on the Conservatives putting it to a referendum. The flak should be directed at Brown and Clegg, not Cameron.

And Freeborn John is absolutely right about Ireland. The Irish people are going to get something of a shock when they realise neither the ECB nor the Germans will bail them out of their mess. Then, of course, there is the dire situation in Spain, Greece and the rest. And Austrian banks who are over-extended in the former Eastern Bloc countries.

M C
04 November 2009 at 15:31

CAMERON AND THE TORIES ARE NOT TO BLAME FOR THE NOW RATIFIED TREATY.

IT IS THE UNELECTED BROWN AND HIS LIEBOUR PARTY THAT RENEGED ON A MANIFESTO PROMISE TO HOLD A REFERENDUM BY THE PUBLIC, BEFORE ANY COMITMENT.

IT IS LIEBOUR, MAKE NO MISTAKE THAT ARE GUILTY OF TREACHERY TO THE BRITISH PUBLIC.

THE SUN IS STATING THE FACTS .

UNLIKE THE MIRROR WITH THE HEADLINE CAMERON RENEGES ON A REFERENDUM OF EUROPE.

"WRONG THE PROMISE WAS FOR A REFERENDUM ON THE LISBON TREATY IF NOT ALREADY RATIFIED"

nzlbob
04 November 2009 at 19:08

Feelings do run high in the UK - thanks to, one suspects, the powerful machinations of Mrs Greens little boy (Rupert the dirty digger). Murdoch's sustained anti-EU policy is as always to feather his own nest and at the expense of all the host countries in which his media spreads it's lies. The UK should be a proud and effective partner in the EU not a cringing backward looking failed state. Well done Murdoch.

Rob
04 November 2009 at 21:17

We're starting a campaign for Cameron to give us a referendum please sign our Petition

http://www.gopetition.co.uk/online/31851.html

Chris
05 November 2009 at 08:01

Murdoch's lackeys have no principles. But we knew that!

firsttimer
05 November 2009 at 08:58

Freeborn John,

"The depth of the recession if Ireland is due to the Euro. A decade of inappropriate low eurozone rates fueled a borrowing binge, and construction and financial services boom there, which led directly to the enormous bust."

Maybe some of it is, but then the currency stability that is allowing them to fight the recession is also due to the euro - we can all play 'what if': if the UK was part of the euro it might help manufacturing so we would not be quite so heavily dependent on The City.

Cameron's stance on the EU is pure posturing, opportunism and triangulation with his own party - there is no vision. What will life for the UK look like outside the EU?

dorothy wilson,

"For goodness sake grow up! All MPs were elected on the basis of a manifesto commitment to a referendum on the EU Constitution"

But there IS no Constitution...

Tom
05 November 2009 at 09:58

Freedorn John - I notice the bank base rate in the UK is 0.5%, yet still there are mortgages at 6% +, credit cards at 31%+ and loan sharks at 200% +

If you care to abandon your economic theory and instead look at economic reality, you would spot that the euro-zone interest rates are quite capable of being adjusted to local circumstances

Paul
05 November 2009 at 11:34

The Sun (along with others) is quite right in my view.

Roll on the election!