What did Piers Morgan tell Jeremy Paxman about phone hacking?
The Leveson Inquiry hears of an interesting conversation.
By David Allen Green Published 23 May 2012 15:52
Today at the Leveson Inquiry, Jeremy Paxman revealed he was present at a lunch in September 2002 when the then Mirror editor Piers Morgan allegedly explained in detail how to access the voicemails of a mobile telephone. According to the Guardian report, Paxman said:
I was really struck by something Piers Morgan said. I was sat between him on my left and the editor of Sunday Mirror on my right. Ulrika Jonsson was sat opposite.
Morgan said, teasing Ulrika, that he knew what had happened in conversations between her and Sven-Göran Eriksson, and he went into this mock Swedish accent.
Now I don't know whether he was repeating a conversation that he had heard, or he was imagining this conversation ... It was a rather bad parody.
I was struck by it because I am wet behind the ears; I didn't know this sort of thing went on.
He turned to me and said: "Have you got a mobile phone?" I said yes. He said: "Have you got a security setting on the message bit of it?" ... I didn't know what he was talking about.
He then explained that the way to get access to people's messages was to go to the factory default setting and press 0000 and 1234 and if you didn't put your own code in, his words were, "you are a fool".
There is no evidence that Morgan himself accessed any voicemail. Morgan has always denied there was phone hacking at the Daily Mirror under his editorship from 1995 to 2004.
But what remains unclear is the extent of his knowledge of the techniques and practices of phone hacking. As the New Statesman has pointed out, Morgan was present at an award ceremony in May 2002 when he was teased in public by Sun editor Dominic Mohan. Mohan was reported as saying he thanked "Vodafone's lack of security" for the Mirror's showbusiness exclusives.
Morgan provided his own recollection of the lunch attended by Paxman in his oral evidence when he appeared at the Leveson Inquiry:
Jay: Did you listen to Ulrika Jonsson's voicemail messages in relation to Sven Goran Eriksson?
Morgan: No, I did not.
Jay: Do you recall a lunch at the Daily Mirror hosted by Victor Blank on 20 September 2002 when you advised Ulrika Johnson to change her PIN number and you started mimicking her Swedish accent? Do you remember that occasion?
Morgan: No, I don't remember the specifics. I think I remember her coming to a lunch.
Jay: Breaking it down into its two parts, might you have advised her to change her PIN number?
Morgan: I don't recall anything like that.
In the same evidence, Morgan also was asked about his diary entry for 26 January 2001, which stated:
But someone suggested today that people might be listening to my mobile phone messages. Apparently, if you don't change the standard security code that every phone comes with, then anyone can call your number, and if you don't answer, tap in the standard four digit code to hear all your messages. I'll change mine just in case, but it makes me wonder how much public figures and celebrities are aware of this little trick.
One would think that anyone would remember mimicking a Swedish accent at a lunch with Ulrika Jonsson, but it seems not. In any case, there are now some more questions about what Morgan knew about the techniques and practices of phone hacking, and when.
David Allen Green is legal correspondent of New Statesman
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Slowly, slowly, catchee Morgan
Slowly, slowly, catchee Morgan
Of course Jeremy is a monarchist. He's made that pretty plain. Just so long as he pays his taxes like the rest of us what's the problem.
Piers is a global celebrity - his tax position is altogether different.
By-the-by, who is Ulrika Jonsson?
Bug Off
@ MBRECKER " Does this "inquiry" have any legal power?"
errr yes, this is parliament, an arm of the state if parliament so choose they can imprison any of these news international jokers for contempt, they can lock them up in parliament or the tower of london or send them to prison. Contempt is very serious and many News Corp executives could go to prison for many years...
@PeterEdward One reason why I'm aksing is that in the States, Congress talks a lot about contempt and jailing people. But they almost never do. Unless it's an election year, of course.
But they won't! Neither will the MPs, or their lackeys... or their bosses!
Do snakes bite themselves?
Former editors, newspaper owners, never know anything, remember anything, see anything, have never spoken to anyone, never remember the specifics, never able to recall. Astonishing how little they know. There appears to be an onset of widespread amnesia in Fleet Street.
One of the things I have difficulty understanding about all of this is that it was widely known, from the mid 1990s, that you could access voice messages remotely via unchanged default PIN codes. I well remember reading articles about it. I am quite sure that there was a detailed article in the "Mail on Sunday" before 1998 (yep, a tough confession, hence the nom de guerre; but my cousin was a star columnist of the day and I read the MoS for teasing material). The 'handle' of these articles was usually of the "10 tell tale signs of a cheating spouse" variety. Ironically, one cheating spouse I knew, unquestionably pre 1999 as she emigrated in 12/98, used the technique in order to communicate in secret with her boyfriend - namely, me. I would leave messages for her on my own voicemail with assignation arrangements, and she would dial in to listen to them, free of spousal surveilance. We changed the PIN code to her memorable date.
And I am a Luddite, not a techie. If I knew all this in 1998, surely most journalists of the Morgan class did as well.
It's remarkable how some very ordinary people can remember poems from their childhood, presents received and the price of those given. The cost of furniture and household fittings although they might have owned them twenty years, yet all these powerful, rich and influential people suddenly develop advanced amnesia when asked to recall events that would serve them best to forget.
That they are all scum is beyond debate
Odious little bastard. Let's hope some shit sticks.
Does this "inquiry" have any legal power?
ugh...