Paxman and Mason clash over Greece protests

"Oh come on Paul, it was hardly the entire population of Athens on the streets".

The tragedy that is Greece. A conflict that has exploded across our TV screens, pitting brother against brother. And that's just in the Newsnight studio.

Jeremy Paxman is famed for exposing the evasions and obfuscation of his guests. But last night, seemingly frustrated by the absence of someone to interrogate, he chose to turn on his own colleague, Paul Mason.

The bizarre exchange began as Mason began to sign off a package he had produced on the day's unrest in Athens. "There's sporadic rioting going on", said Mason, "and not a single politician can leave their secure accommodation". Describing the situation as "a little bit chaotic", Newsnight's economics editor explained that the austerity package had nevertheless been passed in the face of what he termed "viscerally felt anger".

At which point the BBC's grand inquisitor pounced. "Oh come on Paul, it was hardly the entire population of Athens on the streets was it, and certainly not the entire population of Greece". Mason, who had spent the day dodging tear gas and riot police, appeared momentarily stunned, his face set in an expression that made it look like he'd swallowed an Athenian wasp.

"But if people are, as you say, losing faith in such numbers", followed up Paxman pointedly, "where does that lead?"

For a moment the nation's Newsnight viewers held our collective breaths in the hope it might lead to Mason storming off live on air. But showing a level of restraint markedly absent from the streets of the Greek capital, he confined himself to a gritted, "There are a lot of people out Jeremy".

A clip of a Greek commentator helpfully comparing the situation in his country to 1930's Germany momentarily cut across the BBC's own domestic strife, but when we returned Mason was shaking his head and had a strange grin on his face. The rest of the two-way passed offpeacefully until in the final exchange, when Newsnight's economics editor threw down his own challenge over who was responsible for the collapse of the Eurozone; "the people who run the Eurozone, you tell me Jeremy who that is, who we ask the question of". Jeremy didn't.

Badinage between colleagues is all part of the Newsnight brand. But few journalists I've spoken to can ever recall an anchor directly challenging a colleague over his description of events on the ground. One broadcast correspondent working for a different outlet seemed perplexed at Paxman's challenge to Mason; "We've got guys out in Athens and from what we had coming back yesterday it certainly looked like it was getting a bit tasty".

BBC colleagues denied there was any "history" between the two men. "Paul likes to wear his heart on his sleeve a bit, and Jeremy's a bit more refined, but I'm not aware of any problems", said one. Asked if he'd like to comment on the minor on air contretemps, Mason provided a succinct response; "No". A BBC spokesman said; "This is the sort of thing you come to expect on Newsnight. He [Paxman] wasn't contradicting him [Mason], he was challenging him".

Well that's all right then. Paxman/Mason. Coming to a theatre near you.

20 comments

1R4M's picture

what programme were u watching

they "clashed" ONCE and even then it was hardly what u would call a clash
talk about making a mountain over a molehill

terry philips's picture

Paxman plainly thought Mason was going all leftie and over-egging the revolution stuff. I think maybe a lot of people who are refusing to believe their eyes are in for an unpleasant suprise from Greece this year.

adam's picture

The BBC doesn't like mass protests.

When the Egyptian revolution started in Tahrir square when it started John Simpson said it would blow over in a couple of days, and Hosni mubark would remain in charge, Tony Blair even came on the BBC to tell everyone, what a great man Mubarak was, he was his friend, and why he should stay.

Dave C's picture

You seem be reading far too much into what was self-evidently a well-prepared and rehearsed interview.

The role of interviewers is sometimes to articulate what the viewer or listener at home might be thinking.

Asking, "it was hardly the entire population of Athens on the streets was it, and certainly not the entire population of Greece?" is just an example of Paxo doing his job.

adam's picture

The BBC doesn't like mass protests.

When the Egyptian revolution started in Tahrir square when it started John Simpson said it would blow over in a couple of days, and Hosni mubark would remain in charge, Tony Blair even came on the BBC to tell everyone, what a great man Mubarak was, he was his friend, and why he should stay.

thinkov's picture

What a trivial piece

Stuart Eels's picture

Who cares about these two seldom viewed self luvers, get a grip and do something more serious than this Dan Hodges

Richard Morris's picture

Well I wish more Paxmans would articulate what the viewer is thinking, for example, in my case, 'why are you wasting our time with this rubbish, or 'there's nothing happening - why are you on air?' or 'you can't string two words together - how did you get a TV job?'

Luddite's picture

For a workers revolution to succeed first you need workers! Do the Greeks realy think things can carry on in the same old way. Retire at the ripe old aged of 50, never pay tax, and avoided work like the plagued.

hugh markey's picture

Very occasionally we have read and enjoyed Paul Maon's contributions to the New Statesman.
We can't recall having read any article by Jeremy Paxman in this magazine.
Of course, Paxman is now an established monarchist - in his own words - but we cannot believe he is anxious for a return to such a royal solution in Greece of all places. Kingship has always caused problems in that neck of the woods.

Constantine

Peter's picture

I'm only surprised, Dan, that the conclusion you didn't draw from this is that, when it comes down to it, Ed Miliband is a bit rubbish.

Dan Hodges's picture

Peter,

I left that to Duncan Robinson today.

Chris McCray's picture

Paxman vs Mason? Seems a bit "The Day Today" to me. Here's a clip of Paxman vs Mason from a while back:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Bq_dkPkQUU

Oh wait, that was Chris Morris vs. Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan. I'm having trouble telling the difference.

Steve Davies's picture

@JohnB "Hard to imagine Paxo giving Angus Maude the grilling that Evan Davis delivered on Today."

Very hard. He's been dead nearly 20 years, so I reckon he's being grilled by an altogether more diabolic antagonist.

Mike C's picture

Paxman and Mason always seem to have a tense relationship. Paxman often questions Mason's analysis (usually his slides) and Mason has this awkward habit of shaking his head in a negative manner when listening. I'm sure there is more going on between them than we think.

Tom's picture

The first problem with this is emphasizing what needs to be. Is the story the debt in Greece? Or, yet another MSM gossip piece that we all know gets much better numbers than yet another bloody boring economics story?

It's obvious that throughout the MSM and the BBC, right wing is the only profitable way to go (in management's view). I read that back in his uni days, Paxman was extremely left wing. Now, can you imagine a left wing "Newsnight"? Can you name any program on the BBC with left wing content? No, you can't.

The management orders are this. Rip the s**t out of anything "liberal" in every possible way. Or, you're sacked. You can't tell me that that's never happened in a BBC management meeting.

Tom's picture

That's one of the biggest problems with "Newsnight". Do you watch a news program only for presenter schtick? Or, do you watch it for actual information?

That's why Paxman will never work outside the U.K. Also, this isn't the first time the BBC has tried to distort the number of protestors in demonstrations. Just ask Tony Benn.

ivan miletitch's picture

Paxman (and J Humphries) is a royal pain! He belongs to this group of 'journalists' who believe that THEY are the story & that rudeness is an acceptable form of interview. I hope that one day, politicians(left & right, libdems are now negligeable quantity so don't matter anyway!) will decide to boycott those two (& another few like them), the BBC would soon send them & their overinflated pay cheques packing!

charlesfrith's picture

Paxman is an establishment shill.

JohnBaxendale's picture

Paxman's a busted flush, nothing more than a TV presenter, with sporadic and ill-directed irascibility now his only selling point. Whereas Mason knows what he's talking about. (Compare Mason's books with Paxman's. Different league.) The days of skewering Michael Howard are long gone. Hard to imagine Paxo giving Angus Maude the grilling that Evan Davis delivered on Today.

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