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RSSWikiLeaks at it again: Jordan and Saudi urge Iran action
"Cut off the head of the snake" America is told.
By Jon Bernstein Published 28 November 2010 20:20
Among the 250,000 secret messages sent by US embassies around the world -- and now made public thanks to the whistleblowing website WikiLeaks -- some that stand out tonight relate the desire of two Arab states to deal militarily with Iran.
In one, sent from the US embassy in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia it is suggested that Saudi King Abullah urged the United States to "cut off the head of the snake".
Intriguingly, Jordan has also been urging an attack against Iran. Writing on the BBC website, the corporation's Middle East Editor Jeremy Bowen, noted:
The fact that the Saudis, Jordanians and others are deeply suspicious about Iran's intentions is well known. What has not been known until now is how strongly they have been pressing for American military action.
The New York Times and the Guardian, among others, have more stories emerging from the leaked documents. The White House has condemned the release. In a statement it said:
President Obama supports responsible, accountable, and open government at home and around the world, but this reckless and dangerous action runs counter to that goal.
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38 comments
@ privet
there is money hidden underneath the Caspian sea...
Buckskins.
You have obviously been around a lot more than me, I have never heard of the surname 'Foreplay' and I have hankered foreplay throughout my tragic lonely life. Presuming, that you are from the Americas: Do you happen to know if there was Foreplay on the Mayflower? Speed well.
With all those weapons nd aircraft we've sold the Saudis and Jordanians, why don't they take action themselves against Israel (and Iran) and give us all a break.
Are they saving up those weapons to use against their own peoples just in case they decide to ditch the Monarchies?
Congratulations wiki .. nothing that suprises. Real journalism, the truth that they didn`t want us to hear ..
I am so happy about this. Freedom is by far the most important thing we should endevour for. America is showing how much of a "land of the free" it truly is.
Buckskins
Any spike in body bags is not wikileaks fault, it's the politicians and powers that be. Just as they are responsible for creating a thousand terrorists for every one they kill with their foreign policies and political selectivity now and over decades.
This info should be out there, if this sort of info had been out there before the madman Bush (and if we're talking assholes with a lust for power he's your main man) was in his lab concocting a reason to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, we would never have been in the situation we now find ourselves in. And let's not forget, nineteen of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis but we didn't for some reason see fit to bomb the hell out of them and kill millions of innocent citizens. Where's the logic in that. Now they think we should bomb the hell out of Iran on their behalf and we are supposed to kiss their derrieres because they buy our weapons and give us lots of money?
If you're talking bullets through the head being deserving, then a man who orchestrated a war on a noun, personally ordered torture and lied to the world for his own ends is a more deserving candidate than the wikileaks guys.
Can't the Pentagon just do a Denial of Service attack on Wikileaks?
If they can't then get the Chinese to do it as they are quite good at it according to Assange!
Thats great. I wish I see the united states attacking Iran.
Saudi's and Jordanians are totally right.
Regarding the weapons sold to these countries, its sold by united states to Jordan and Saudi Arabia, not by Iranian living in USA :)))
Fair play to wiki leaks, get the truth out there. As usual the USA has their finger in every pie around the world, the new inperial power....
a few scandals mixed in with heavy war rhetoric. intelligence services fingerprints all over this
what a load of baloney. like anyone cares about prince andrew?? just a load of propoganda aimed at cementing the US warmongers opinions in the publics minds at the same time as causing rifts in the middle east among arab nations.
dont believe the hype. this stinks to high heaven
These 'secrets' doesn't tell us anything we haven't already worked out for ourselves. Let's see if this 'courageous' man leaks some Russian secrets? He would be glowing with in days...
An attack on Iran is now unavoidable because of this stupid wankers. The whole world now knows it's not only Israel, but the Arabs world that wish to see Iran wiped from the political map. This knob-head will be responible for the death of millions and the political-left thinks he's a hero.
The WikiLeaks just confirm what we should already know in abundance, that war is a dirty business.
And that once you light the fire, it often spreads and the war takes on a life of its own and becomes the reason for the war!
Its the pretence that you can have a sanitised war, where no one gets hurt - and if they do, its the other sides fault, that makes the WikiLeaks embarrassing.
People do support dirty wars, if its in a good cause! The WikiLeaks show its not a good cause, just gratuitous and aimless bombing that makes things worse.
@ Luddite
That's why Luddite, with a straight keyboard, says the WikiLeaks make an attack on Iran unavoidable, because 'even' the Arabs want to do it!
Whereas the real message is: Iran knows that getting WMDs would be a huge mistake, which is why they don't have any and why they want direct negotiations with Obama, to avoid war - and this is why the neocons reject talks.
Wikileaks brings nothing new. Jordan says publicly what it says behind doors because the leadership is very comfortable internally - unlike Tehran. HM the king was very clear last year (Spring 2009) on NBC's "meet the press" answering a question on what his advice to president obama was after he met him and gave him a sword as a gift: act on Iran before the end of the year (2009) or people will start cutting their own deals [with Iran]
@In a tweet yesterday he wrote: "@wikileaks Speaking as Wikipedia's co-founder, I consider you enemies of the U.S.--not just the government, but the people."
...See where the left (which wikileaks seems to have joined) belongs today. Contrast Wikipedia with Wikileaks. One is real open source, transparent, democratic, reasonably qualified knowledge base helping immensely people as first port of call for research.
Contrast Wikileaks. Run by a shady allegedly rapist boss, dictatorial, leftist aligned monopoly which the enimies and government can manipulate. It has been reduced to stooge of Guardian/ NYT gang of left liberal group.
Who knows if left liberal itself is not orchesting these leaks?
Wikileaks is Soviet Union in style and characteristics.
nonsense!
i checked the wikileaks website thoroughly and i have not seen any document stating that Jordan urging any one to attack any one!!!!
there is only one document stating that Jordan must take part in any negotiations with Iran.
I challenge every body, go to Wikileaks and see if there is some thing related to Jordan urging any one to attack any one!!!
If Wikileaks was an American site, led by an American, and out to embarass Europe and/or the conventional European Left, you declare them war criminals. But Wikileaks mouths the standard pieties, so like the followers of Fox "News" and Glen Beck, you folks say, "he's ours, and therefore virtuous."
Would that we Americans would wise up and learn to treat you Europeans with the same contempt you treat us.
Buckskins:
The 'Earth' belongs to all civilized humanity and beyond. As it is written in the New Testament. Matthew 22. 37-40: (pithily) put it this way: 'Love God, love your neighbour as yourself, on these two commandments, the whole Law hangs and the Prophets.' As for me, and I am no Angel by any-means, I will die trying to defeat Lucifer. Keep up the good work.
@fairplay
You are right on the money there. This stinks all the way back to Obama gov (security agencies). They have been plotting an attack on Iran for a long time. This story will be one of many to condition our minds.
Luddite
29 November 2010 at 06:49
"An attack on Iran is now unavoidable because of this stupid wankers."
Did you mean 'these'?
"The whole world now knows it's not only Israel, but the Arabs world that wish to see Iran wiped from the political map."
I guess you meant the 'Arab world', the 'Arab's world', maybe the 'Arabian world', or just 'Arabs'.
"This knob-head will be responible for the death of millions and the political-left thinks he's a hero."
You meant 'responsible'.
Come back when you've learned how to spell / have valid opinions.
@RK
29 November 2010 at 10:10
"Contrast Wikileaks. Run by a shady allegedly rapist boss, dictatorial, leftist aligned monopoly which the enimies and government can manipulate. It has been reduced to stooge of Guardian/ NYT gang of left liberal group.
Who knows if left liberal itself is not orchesting these leaks?
Wikileaks is Soviet Union in style and characteristics."
'enimies' is spelt enemies
'orchesting' is spelt orchestrating
(Evidently lots of Americans on here today.)
You're another one who can come back when you've learned to spell / form a grammatical sentence / have valid opinions.
Buckskins:
This makes me a cannibal! Make the most of fruitcake because it wont be long before it is not classified as a luxury food item in the USA. What does dude mean? Are you an American by any chance? I know what cheers means; well, I think I do. Cheers. And keep up the good work and never ever trust your mainstream media!
paul
u have him there
fairplay by name, fairplay by nature.
i think this is not true some thing will happen when he said Jordan has also been urging an attack against Iran
what is the benefit Jordan will gain of attacking Iran
Interpol is looking for Mr. Assange, and not just for rape charges. Several different nations want to talk to Mr. Assange.
I assume that it maust be a great disapointment that with all those leaked documents none of the European conspiracy theories about America were comfirmed. In fact, most of the documents show America acting responcibly, often behind Bush's back.
How any revealation of our good actions must pain you folks in Europe.
I dont know Iran's history but im fascinated,
can anyone explain to me why Iran is such a problem/threat? for what reasons & to who?
Certainly a long way from UK, as most wars are fought for profit, whats the motive in attacking Iran, cant see they would profit from a missile strike against UK & its a long way for their tiny navy to sail round horn of Africa, so why dont we just ignore them & leave them too it?
Elusive Assange assuages!
All the Wickileaks released so far are diversionary and pretty anodyne in content. No mention of Israel's nuclear capacity, its submarines and the Samson Option. They don't reveal much of an independent audit of Fort Knox (tungsten bars not included) or the Federal Reserve for that matter. For far too long Washington has been Israeli Occupied Territory. I smell Psy-Ops and just another false flag nail in the coffin of a relatively free Internet. Iran is not an enemy of the West but I know who is!
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