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@John

omg, you are like a proper Bible thumping Christian, how cute. (makes the merry dance i still make you do on the Ron Paul Money Bomb thread even more satisfying. all i do is literally poke random letters and digits at you, and you respond by typing messages in response. lol)

anyway, you had something to get off your chest John on this thread;

"You (& any sinner) not acknowledging God is equivalent to the active homosexual actions."
so not acknowledging God is the equivalent of love & passion for another human?

well who'd have guessed? no wonder you're so fucked up mate.

@jank: Just so you know, ! means excited, large caps means SHOUTING. Here's how you are a hypocrite: You allow someone to "say"(believe) whatever they want, but if they act to "legislate or rule" a certain way you disagree with, then (in the case of being against the sin of homo-activity) they are somehow evil, bigoted or _______.(you fill in the blank. Again, the left is way more intolerant of dissenting opinion than the right. If you don't know what vile is, I would not want you around my or any other's children. You're a loser.

That's right Jackass. I'm so happy to see you standing up for your gay rights.

^Richard Dawkins, prominent atheist, in a recent interview said "I'm not sure God doesn't exist". So there you have it. You could say, believers & non-believers alike are both right or both crazy. I do know the Bible says homo-sex is wrong. You can argue that fact away with various reasons: translation errors, or that the intent is only sex without love is wrong, or adult-child homo sex in wrong only, or whatever you want to cook up. But many people think you are the radical one by accepting homo-sexuality. Have a relationship with a goldfish for all I care- but you are never going to get majority of the globe to accept queer sexual love. (Notice I am not focusing on the person but on the action). sorry...

Anyone who calls themselves Buckskins is definitely curious about something...

@Suckshits

by all means assume i am gay, doesn't bother me. i always felt quite flattered to be asked by gay acquaintances "do you swing?".

unlike you i am completely happy with my sexuality, happen to be hetero, but by all means imagine me sucking cock or taking it up the arse. apparently it turns you on in some or other way, you go cowboy!

however as is evident from every post you provide on the subject of homosexuality, you are the subject of that Hitchens quote.

"You could say, believers & non-believers alike are both right or both crazy."

bloody hell John, that is exactly what i do think. all human beings are irrational animals, without exception. fact. it's what we do with this reality that is of interest to me, and funnily enough where Dawkins is the same side of the coin as theists (doesn't matter which faith for once).

they both cling to an ontology, the theist to a supernatural one, and the atheists like Dawkins to a natural ontology. now, can you guess what's coming? here it is; i don't subscribe to either.

" I do know the Bible says homo-sex is wrong."

tell you what John, even if the Bible actually did explicitly state this, it doesn't make it true. surely your argument is not "because it is in the Bible it is true"?

or is it?

"But many people think you are the radical one by accepting homo-sexuality. "
being morally and intellectually consistent is not a popularity contest John. homosexuality is part and parcel of the natural world, fact. no amount of words written in an ancient book can change reality.

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why do you bet on that John?

do you even know what the artist was trying to say with that piece?

do you reckon that such pieces deserve to be vandalised, as was the case with "Piss Christ", or destroyed by any-one offended by art?

or was that just your usual weak attempt at comedy?

i wonder if for once you'll actually speak up for yourself, or just run away as per usual. i'll bet on the latter, and my bet's far safer than yours.

@jank: You don't see it, do you? You believe based on what you see, I believe based on what's in the Bible. Neither has complete knowledge, and never will. If it makes you feel good, call names or state that your morality is superior. Again, we can act like beasts in all activites in life, but there is a better way. Look up Image of God sometime. Read. Seems stupid that human need "instructions" on sexuality, but we do. You can't explain where your morality comes from can you? If you think you can, then tell me why someone who thinks pedophilia is OK, is not OK in your book?? You (all non-theists) use some abstract "line in the sand" for morality. You are the extremist.

@Johnk

"You believe based on what you see, I believe based on what's in the Bible."

if you mean by what i "see" is that i only care about the results of natural methodology (aka science), then yes. but i do not then project the value of that approach all the way to a natural ontology (which is what Dawkins etc do).

you on the other hand base your approach to life on a supernatural ontology. fine, you do that, i hope it makes you happy.

"You can't explain where your morality comes from can you?"
of course i can. morality is not all that complex, it's and emergent property evident in all social animals. human beings are just another social animal. we can see the Golden Rule (which is way older than the Judeo Christian faiths) enacted in many other animals.

but i have a feeling that as you read that, you already think you know better. so rather than me try and teach you a bit of biology, i'll pause and ask you a question; can you tell me if all the text in the Bible is infallible truth from God?

jank: you are the idiot- you have no creativity on the Paul thread- at least I got you to quit cursing & slurring- that's a start. You're a cranky, unhappy non-theist, I get it. We disagree on homo-relations but do to your lack of morals, I still think you should not be around children. By the way, by your logic, if I'm a homophobe, then you are a Satanist. Hah!

God in the Bible calls all non-believers "beasts". Humans can be pretty vile at times. Comes with the Free Will thing. Even the non-theists & moral do-gooders. Beasts. This explains the natural man's (Jankass') crankiness. He's been put down. Nothing new under the sun. God knows each frame, knows Man is but a mist, here for but a little while. Chew on that bi-otches...Ha!

^jank: You do believe you're a beast, good boy! (joke).Your science as morality/god is also flawed by definition- most science is just theory, so your "supernatural" ontology jab is ridiculous. Boson particle recent hypothesis & testing mistake is a great example. Hope your casting your lot with science "makes you happy". I always chuckle at how condescending those who worship science are- like they have all the answers. You are faking it, you are clueless just like the rest of us. Wonder why chimp groups attack each other, or lion prides? There is no morality with animals, that's plain idiotic...Again, love to hear your answer on why pedophilia is wrong & maybe I'll answer your questionon infallible truth.

These disgusting views perpetuated by Santorum are at a basic level against the constitution that he seems so desperate to uphold. The comparisions with child molestation and bestalility are insulting and derogatory to all gay people (myself included) but taken at the level of Santorum they are truly laughable and false. As a homosexual, communist and atheist I can merely understand that Santorum would find me repulsive yet politely request that he keeps his views out of access for the easily corruptible among us.

Sandra Fluke could do porn to pay for her birth control- problem solved!

@jank: I'm trying to nail you down on how you come up with "your" morality. You haven't explained it well. Your science is just as much a leap as my faith, & you know it. I'm sure you are against this nonsense of "trans-gendered" hormone therapy for minors & for no sex life till 18 years old right? Because a minor can't give consent, even for themselves, right? Oh yeah, & since animals can't give consent, in your world, many animals are raped. Funny how you think the Bible stories are superstition but lean toward accuracy on the projected detail of Mary's age...

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The article shows a US Congressman projected by an image of gay porn. Bet you'd be offended if it was a picture of Beatrix.. As usual, "activism" is only acceptable to the left when it involves one of their causes...

"Sandra Fluke could do porn..."? WTH?

So women who use birth control, should be viewed as porn stars, and their sexuality should be treated without dignity. Why exactly?
Because they use birth control, then ... they must be "loose women" of low morals; is that really the line of thought here?

Sorry to interrupt your thread, but WOW, I thought people like this disappeared with the Inquisition.

@Johnc

"I'm trying to nail you"

you naughty boy! (ok, sorry, just am that juvenile, couldn't resist)

" how you come up with "your" morality. You haven't explained it well."
in you opinion. i would agree that i didn't give you much detail. i said that morality is an emergent property of being a social animal. and since we are the most complex of all animals, with our large brains and ability to communicate and write stuff down, we can track our morality as it developed. it is still developing all the time as we debate, analyse and change our ideals and aspirations. modern history shows enormous change in our moral stance. fact.

you appear to think that morality is absolute, and in your case God given. this leaves you with insurmountable problems because we can see that Judeo Christian morality is anything but consistent. that's historical fact. your Bible allowed the owning of slaves before it apparently doesn't. your own country had to create the 15th Amendment before true emancipation was enshrined in your country's moral code.

"your "supernatural" ontology jab is ridiculous"
all that means is that you don't know what supernatural and natural ontologies are (both are equally flawed btw). seriously Johnc, prove me wrong and in your own words say what those terms mean (it can be done in very very few words).

you then cite the age of consent as 18. where do you get that from pls? the Bible is silent on this, or do you know better? in your own country the age varies between 16 and 18 depending on the State. what does your Bible say, and if it says nothing why didn't God bother?

"in your world, many animals are raped."
i realise you are trying to be funny as being serious is not working out very well, but yes animals within a species do rape and kill one another. you think i make this up? have you ever studied or read any books on animal behaviour? (btw why are you being coy about your academic qualifications, you embarrassed?)

"Mary's age"
go on then, how old was Mary when she was impregnated by God? Christian Biblical scholars state she was a young woman about 13 years old. or perhaps you'd rather not dwell on such an unsavoury topic.

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for once you have a good point John. indeed the existence of Satan, God, Krishna, Thor, Santa, Unicorns, Ra, Zeus etc are all on an exact par. how utterly brilliant of you to manage to focus on a couple of those as more likely than the rest. well done you!

but since we have irrefutable evidence that homosexuals exist, and you have no similar proof of your God, my previous point stands untouched by your response.

http://open.salon.com/blog/watchseasonepisode/2012/02/22/watch_one_tree_...

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"Infamy, Infamy!! They've all got it in for me!!" (Carry On film)

(no i'm not going to explain that joke you cretinous fake, but as ever it is 'on' you)