Iran - Ready to attack

67 comments from readers

Tommy Judd
15 February 2007 at 16:14

Is this the same Dan Plesch who told us in The New Statesman in April 2002 that "the US has already offered control of Iraq's northern oilfields to Turkey in return for its support in Afghanistan and Iraq"? Has he talked to the same "informed sources" this around?

Pimpa
15 February 2007 at 23:28

This article with the entire list of the US army potential and boasted capabilities ('A single stealth or B-52 bomber can now attack between 150 and 300 individual points to within a metre of accuracy using the global positioning system) sounds more like a sort of Pentagon propaganda to scare off the Iranians than a seriously informed article. Who believes all this?

Tommy Judd
16 February 2007 at 08:47

I should have added the link - http://www.newstatesman.com/200204010014 - for those who want to know just how seriously to take the latest NS plesch splash.

Hasibul Haque
16 February 2007 at 17:07

Iran will be attacked no matter what - why is it so surprising? Pro-israeli 'thinktanks' are busy right now creating outrage against Iran in the US media.

jammy006
16 February 2007 at 18:55

it dose not matter what American are doing or are going to do. my concern is that this article about America ready to attack Iran has not been posted on CNN or Time or NYTimes, wonder why.

fabsadami
16 February 2007 at 21:06

truthpotion: have you read your own comment closely? The fact of the matter is that the Turks DID NOT support the Iraqi invasion. It is entirely possible that had the turks agreed to allow Centcom the use of Incirlik airfield, the turks would now be reaping the crude benefit. However, given the lack of turkish support for Operation Iraqi Freedom (including denying the US base-use), we'll never know whether the US would, or would not have made good on its promises. Such behaviour would not be out of character for the US govt. In the run up to desert storm in 1990-1991, the US offered massive financial incentives to any arab country that agreed to join the coalition The Generals War, a good book about 1990 goes into this.

The Washington Post, as well as NYT discussed this issue in the run up to Iraqi freedom.

The turks opposed Operation Iraqi Freedom for their own strategic reasons, among which was the fear that an "independent Kurdistan" in Northern Iraq could have led to renewed demands for independence from the PKK (Turkish Kurds).

Irrespective of these points, your comment misses the boat simply because the Turkish refusal to sanction basing rights means we will never know whether the US would have made good on its "promise" or not! IE: Plesch may well be right, in that an offer was made.

Tommy Judd
17 February 2007 at 08:02

fabsadami, the reason I remember Plesch's 2002 story is because I was was given the job of investigating its truth. Believe me, there was nothing in it. It was by far too high a price to pay to win achieve the right to invade from the north - evidenced by the US decision to go ahead anyway. Plesch is not an investigative journalist and that shows when he pretends to be.

Hasibul Haque, shut up.

Greg Bacon
17 February 2007 at 13:39

Why isn't the US media running with a story of this magnitutde?

They're too busy rehashing the tired story about the tragic death of a former stripper.

When their Zionists masters in Jerusalem tell them different, they'll start cheerleading--yet again--for another illegal and immoral war, this time against Iran.

THE UNITED STATES OF ISRAEL MUST BE STOPPED, USING ALL AVAILABLE MEANS.

Greg Bacon

Ava, MO

Melanika52
18 February 2007 at 15:08

When someone disputes the obvious, one has to ask why and who benefits from it. If Dan Plesch were the only voice making this argument, one might be inclined to dismiss it as alarmist. But when you have the most respected minds in the world, including Zbigniew's and most of Congress saying the same thing, the voices mocking Mr. Plesch's case sound like the true debunkers.

Judith
18 February 2007 at 15:55

The fact that Plesch speaks of the "ayatollahs fanatical policies" without at least elaborating shows how biased he is.

Neither Turkey nor the US want an independent Kurdistan in posession of the northern oil fields - oil means power. Both want to submit the Kurds to their respective control.

In his reference to Seymour Hersh "that the US military is already engaged in a low level war with Iran" Persch declined us the source of his reference. If he means the New Yorker then he could have elaborated that this low level war seems to be rather a CIA undercover operation, sponsoring the Kurds with the promise of an independent Kurdistan - sometime in the future.

In addition, Persch does not list the gains for Israel: After the destruction of Iran minus the oil fields Syria and Lebanon will be isolated in the region. Syria has the wanted Golan Heights and Lebanon valuable sources of precious water.

Worst, Persch minimizes the effect of nuclear weapons. After all, he will not die an early, agonizing death from radiation sickness.

"...George Bush will not want to stand accused of using too little force and allowing Iran to fight back", the nuclear weapons will take care of this problem.

Starwolf
18 February 2007 at 17:16

Jammy006: Its beacuse this is another weak piece by Dan Plesch, who is not qualified to write on these topics.

Of course there are plans to invade Iran, its only prudent to have them and keep them current in the current sitautaion. That does not mean that it is the primary intent of the US government. That link has not been made.

Other so called facts are equally specious, including posts not held previously by Marines and the military capabilities being cited.

Shame on the New Statesman for not doing a little fact checking

Patrick Mooney
19 February 2007 at 01:30

This sure is one stupid planet. As long as we are controlled by religious myths, mainstream media tripe, and patriotic rah-rah, it shall remain thus.

Shillum
19 February 2007 at 03:49

"Whatsoever a man sow, that shall he reap." I would expect that America is heading for some heavy reaping.

Miklos
19 February 2007 at 15:05

This Dan Plesch guy makes it all sound very easy. Which dream land did he evolve from? Anyone who thinks invading Iran will be a walk in the park seriously needs their heads examining. USA may have been making preparations, but don't you think Iran has too?

I rest my case!

Margaret
19 February 2007 at 16:54

The American Forces Radio has brainwashed the American Troops about Iran and why they need to go in there for years. There is no question that Bush intends to invade Iran and will regardless of world opinion.

Essie
19 February 2007 at 17:20

VOA propaganda constantly claims that Bush like the Iranian people, but not the Iranian government. Bush also liked the Iraqi people and brought them shock and awe in the middle of the night, like a psychpath. So what are the "at least 10,000" targets that are going to be hit. There are not even 10,000 homes in Tehran. A war with Iran will give America a bloody nose that will never heal.

Essie
19 February 2007 at 17:24

A war with Iran will give America a bloody nose it will never forget.

jose
20 February 2007 at 04:50

Iran beat the Shah when he was supported by arms and cash from the U.S.

Iran beat Saddam Hussein when he was supported by arms and cash from the U.S.

The U.S. got its a$$ kicked in Vietnam and is currently getting its a$$ kicked in Mesapotamia (by Saddam's boys--the same ones the Iranians beat).

Iran: 2-2 U.S: 0-2

PLACE YOUR BETS.

Miklos
20 February 2007 at 09:18

Shall I tell you what I think? I think the journalists & media want this war more than anyone. They seem to be stoking up the flames on a daily basis, so that they can start their very own little coverage war!!

qaz
20 February 2007 at 10:18

I am ready to defend my country. US like any other power idiots will pay the price for such a foolish act against Iran. I have a good feeling about americans now but any attack from bush administration to my country will change me to a missile going to US at the maximum destruction possible. Remember Hitler and his dreams to be the world super power.

nataliesos
20 February 2007 at 10:43

I think that the US is not ready to take economical and political consequenses of any more war. Maybe they are concentrating military forces at the Iranian border, but how not to as Iranians are creating the WMD, I think military forces will be used only as a last resort when all other means will be unproductive. Meanwhile the media is exaggerating and flaming up the facts thae seems unrealistic.

Miklos
20 February 2007 at 13:36

May we remind the US that all the weaponry it supplied Saddam during the 8 year long Iran/Iraq war, it still couldn't defeat Iran?

What makes them think this time will be any different?

Iran will have grown in strength and I'd back them to win any invasion of their own country. The only way the US can win, will be by dropping atomic bombs. And will they want to do that with their partners in crime (Israel) so close to the fall-out?

The consequences for America will be horrific if they do wage a war with Iran.

William Frey
20 February 2007 at 22:45

Or, the neocons can pull a new version of January 20, 1981 (look it up if you don't know) and get credit for a great last-minute "victory" over Iran when the Iranians "cave in" to Bush's demands, thereby making the whole Bush foreign policy look suddenly wonderful again just in time for the 2008 election. Then, when everyone is looking the other way a few months from now, the neocons can, once again, as in the so-called Iran-Contra operation run by Poppy Bush in the 1980s, illegally send Iran a few shiploads of advanced American weapons as a quid pro quo for services performed to the GOP right. Oh, and Iran will also get virtual control of a Saddam-free Iraq that the Bushies are doing their best to help turn into a Shia-run theocracy. Yet more treason from America's First Family of traitors? Wait and see.

Ergo
21 February 2007 at 07:15

This a very strange situation. There is less discussion,

outrage, and opposition than when the US illegally invaded Iraq. There is no justification for attacking Iran, absolutely none and such an event will have repercussions we can only speculate about, and none of them good. The world is in a catatonic state.

What's going on?

jaystrom
21 February 2007 at 16:40

Iran does not have nuclear weapons. Nobody is trying to claim that they do.

What Iran has is a nuclear power plant and the facilities to make fuel rods for that nuclear power plant. The IAEA has been inspecting all aspects of the Iranian facilities and has closed-circuit TV cameras watching them at all times.

More importantly, Iran has a legal right to nuclear power plants and the systems to make fuel rods for them under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty which the United States and Iran have both signed. In seeking to deny Iran the right to nuclear power generation, it is the United States which is violating a key treaty.

But let us suppose for a moment that Iran has a nuclear weapon. They still would not be a threat to the United States because the United States still maintains the largest nuclear force in the world. Just one Ohio class submarine could destroy every key city in Iran. Iran knows this.

So, Iran is not a danger to the United States. Not unless the US Government wants to admit is wasted all those trillions of dollars building a nuclear deterrent which isn't a deterrent.

So, as was the case in Iraq, Bush is invading Iran supposedly because of a non-existent threat.

Of course, we all know the real reason Iran is being invaded; because Israel has ordered it based on the "Securing the Realm" document written by key Bush advisers not for the US, but for Israel.

Our kids are being killed and crippled, our wallets are being emptied, our infrastructure being allowed to decay, all in service to a foreign government that openly bribes our politicians and screams "anti-Semite" at those who dare point to the bribery as contrary to American needs and interests.

Please think about this in the months between now and the 2008 elections.

TrueGritter
22 February 2007 at 05:46

Dan Plesch is catastrophically clueless on the subject of war with Iran. Like 99% of the rest of the US media, he's also uninformed about how Russia is getting ready to deploy their special forces to protect the Bushehr plant in Iran. Know why Russia and China were conducting joint military exercises in '05 and '06? For stuff like this. That axis wants to suck our economy and military personnel dry, and the satanic, treasonous neocons are obliging. All neocons and their sponsors must be purged. Period. They clearly haven't learned from history.

ALL
22 February 2007 at 06:53

I don't think we need to be taking the US media to task quite yet for failing to report that Bush is about to invade Iran.

This article gives us _very_ little reason to believe that the US is invading Iran. Yes, the Bush administration has upped the ante on sabre-rattling, but I think Andrew Stephen's more on the mark when he speculates that this is primarily a bit of theatre put on for the US electorate. The only surprising claim Plesch makes here is that the Marines are ready to invade, and the only evidence he gives us is that Marines have several top jobs and that Cheney has a "love affair" with them. I.e., very little evidence indeed--and neither the new commander in Iraq nor the new commander at US Central Command is a Marine, incidentally.

And yes, I think Pimpa has it right below: Plesch has given us a picture of US armed might worthy of Boeing's PR department. Given the reaction the US electorate has displayed towards the surge, any ground invasion of Iran would not only be a bloody mess but also quite likely lead the Republicans to semi-permanent minority status.

flores_libre
22 February 2007 at 23:52

Safeguarding “Israel” is a must for any person on this planet or he/she will be called an “anti-Semite.”

When “Israel” invades with its Israeli “Defence” Force such act must be always described as defensive. This has been known fact that the Khazarian jews can only suffer but never cause suffering.

To follow this ‘logic’ the concrete wall “Israel” is encircling West Bank Bantustans, 12’ high in some places isn’t a wall but a “fence.” Everybody knows that even good neighbours have fences between them.

Just being neighbourly “Israel” wants to make sure that all neighbouring countries adjoining this hooligan of a state is pacified and impotent to prevent “Israel” from its never ending Zionist colonial expansion.

If it takes US Army to do its dirty deeds the better. It matters not is a Goim dies on behalf of Erez Israel. Life of a non-jew never mattered to them.

The neocons in Washington expected to have a quick walk over Iraq on its way to Syria and never expected to get such a bloody nose in the process.

Iran is making anti Zionists noises? Well, hit them hard so others will know better. If it takes US (again) paying and dying for this latest craze of “Israel” the better.

Welcome to the United States of Israel. Be prepared to die for it soon.

flores_libre
23 February 2007 at 00:01

Don’t you people know that safeguarding “Israel” is a must for any person on this planet or he/she will be called an “anti-Semite.”

When “Israel” invades with its Israeli “Defence” Force such act must be always described as defensive. This has been known fact that the Khazarian jews can only suffer but never cause suffering.

To follow this ‘logic’ the concrete wall “Israel” is encircling West Bank Bantustans, 12’ high in some places isn’t a wall but a “fence.” Everybody knows that even good neighbours have fences between them.

Just being neighbourly “Israel” wants to make sure that all neighbouring countries adjoining this hooligan of a state is pacified and impotent to prevent “Israel” from its never ending Zionist colonial expansion.

If it takes US Army to do its dirty deeds the better. It matters not is a Goim dies on behalf of Erez Israel. Life of a non-jew never mattered to them.

The neocons in Washington expected to have a quick walk over Iraq on its way to Syria and never expected to get such a bloody nose in the process.

Iran is making anti Zionists noises? Well, hit them hard so others will know better. If it takes US (again) paying and dying for this latest craze of “Israel” the better.

Welcome to the United States of Israel. Be prepared to die for it soon.

Okieshowedem
24 February 2007 at 00:19

The world will never know peace without the Peaceful Solution.

http://www.peacefulsolution.com

Inthenameofpeace
24 February 2007 at 09:26

As the mother of a 9/11 victim had said, an eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind. War and violence only breeds war and violence. The only thing that works is love. Immediately after 9/11, the Americans had the upper moral ground. Would they not have set a good example if they had stretched a helping hand to the poor and needy in Middle East, Africa, Afghanistan and places like that? Would this not have taken any reason out of the hands of hard-line Muslims and even the Iranian government to wage war against us in the West? This would have undermined the strength which people like Osama Bin Laden command and they would therefore no longer have any followers. Instead, we appear to be helping their cause by accepting their argument that there is war.

CharlieUSMC
24 February 2007 at 18:38

The consensus seems to be that the U.S. is getting a good whipping in Iraq and if we pick a fight with Iran it will be more of the same. If you consider completely devastating a country, obliterating their military and deposing and hanging their president taking a beating... get into rehab. If Iran has the same success against the U.S. that Iraq has, I'm not sure they're looking forward to it. Iran may give the U.S. a bloody nose but if they wind up in intensive care on life support, does that still count as a win?

CharlieUSMC
24 February 2007 at 19:44

We can only comment intelligently on a subject when we have knowledge of the subject. The media says the U.S. has inflicted up to 600,000 deaths upon the Iraqi people in the last three years and still they manage to give the impression that we are being routed by the enemy.

I read that insurgents are being sent in from Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia and elsewhere to prevent the elected government of Iraq from becoming stable. Then I'm told it's a civil war.

The myth of bias-free news reporting has to be debunked and the consumer has to be aware that today it is impossible to get news that is not filtered through the political agenda of the source that is reporting it. Whether it is pro-American Fox News or anti-American CNN reporting, the facts will be skewed.

I believe it is possible that Iraq was invaded to provide a base of operations for a war with Iran. Saddam's army demonstrated its lack of prowess in both Gulf wars. Maybe the U.S. believes that if you want something done right, do it yourself. Dan Plesch would have us believe the U.S. military is not to be taken lightly. Others in the media make us doubt. This doubt is demonstrated by Pimpa's comment on 15 Feb that the military might of the U.S. does not exist. It is only Pentagon propaganda meant to frighten Iranians. He asks, "Who believes all this?" Saddam believes. But does anyone else?

jbloom
25 February 2007 at 05:46

There is something called Karma that goes something like this: "As you sow, so shall you reap."

The white man has been dropping bombs on innocent civilians, destroying their countries, their lives and their economies, and you actually think it is funny? Ok.

Have you ever thought about what you would do if the shoe was on the other foot? And it will be on the other foot one day. The Roman empire did worse than that and it was destroyed.

"He who kill by the sword shall be killed by the sword."

petergriffin1968
26 February 2007 at 17:48

US should get out of IRAQ and forget about attacking IRAN. They are not building any weapons. US is the best country in this world and yet has failed to resolve its own internal problems like crime and Social Security going bankrupt. The money they wasted in the IRAQ war could have changed the whole worlds viewpoint towards US if they used it for a good cause. Saddam Hussein did not have a single fighter plane. WHAT A SHAME. I don't know why do this. All you power hungry politicians you are going to DIE one day as well so nothing will go with u. Then why do this. Drive ur HUMVEES and have fun in the US of A. Its a great country and lots of good things to do. Leave the middle east Alone. Else China and Russia will once again kick u and become leading super powers

maxi911
26 February 2007 at 17:57

what i dont understand is that Why is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA acting like the daddy of the whole world. i mean who gave it the right to go to a country, attack, and change its ruler whenever it wants to....if the US is so particular about nukes, then why doesnt it stop itself, or stop using forbidden bombs against countries like it did in afghanistan and then iraq? who are they to tell everyone what to do, a free world it is, whats US's problem

gipnfdl
28 February 2007 at 04:36

I say no to war, try everything else first. But guess what. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad made a comment, and incase you forgot, it was "Israel must be wiped off of the map." Now, seriously, all political affliations and opinions aside, do you REALLY think Mahmoud is only building nuclear facilities for energy? Give me a freakin break. If we do nothing and sit back and watch Israel get nuked, even if you don't like Jews, what are we to say to them? "Oops, sorry Israel. We thought it wasn't politically correct to attack Iran, besides, we thought Mahmoud was only kidding. Infact, we thought he had a fondness in his heart for Jews."? Honestly, what planet are you living on? It doesn't matter who he threatened, the guy is nuts, and its not "hype". The solution isn't in a government or a policy or a democratic idea or a "neocon's" plan, it is with a changed heart. Everyone on this planet needs one, regardless where you were born, or what you look like. It requires a Saviour and we got one. Look it up. Get a changed heart, the world will benefit.

rbeer
05 March 2007 at 08:05

It is very much right thing that one country is coming ahead for the sake of saving humanity. Iran is building nuclear bomb / weapons not only to save himself but also to bomb Israel and US.

It is a general human tendency that when you get power (NB), you must want to show it, in case anybody resists you or your agression. Just what USA did at Japan in WW-II. After that the superpower, USA and the world learnt the after effects of the weapon and are realizing that they had done a mistake and nobody will do it again. I thought, USA is doing a very much right thing because a powerful country not only in terms of economy and politically but also militarily could keep nuclear weapons safely.

We all know, Iran and Iraq were at fight for more than ten years in last century and no one could win a war.

Iran, I didn't think, if produce weapons of mass destruction, could put them at a very safe place away from terrorists and away from conventional weapons range. If at all this happen, the existence of Iran, may also be in doubt.

06 March 2007 at 21:41

salamz,

i am with Iran, i am a muslim and a Pakistani. and i dont believe in Firqa system because it is used for only fights between muslim brothers and also used for malign Islam.

I am with Iran at any cost. they should have all rights to make save their country by use of uranium and weapons (if amercia and Israel have rights).

Just want to tell Pakistan and Pakistani people are with you Iran.

But all muslim countries should be only one under the Law of Allah.

very sorry to say we could not save Iraq and we dont want war in Iran. (if it will be happen then Iran must have to attack on Israel and america directly please...)

American people, no doubt are good but their government wants to wipe out all the muslim states from the world.. Impossible... but it is possible to wipe out that government :)

thanks

cooolstar

Factotum
08 March 2007 at 19:44

Truthpotion--

And your point is...?

Turkey did not support the Iraq attack , and the US did not give them control of Iraq's norther oilfields.

Attacking Iran is a serious matter. Please *do* try to stick to facts and basic logic.

--

Is this the same Dan Plesch who told us in The New Statesman in April 2002 that "the US has already offered control of Iraq's northern oilfields to Turkey in return for its support in Afghanistan and Iraq"? Has he talked to the same "informed sources" this around?

Gorge
13 March 2007 at 16:41

You are in a dream world honey.

usman
27 March 2007 at 04:15

i am with Iran,a pakistani. Iran should make item bombs for his security and defence.Because USA spreading voilence in afganistam and iraq. Many thousand people died in these country.Iran should make bombs to finish the voilence of USA and israil too.

My prayers with IRAN(Good Luck)

proudlyleft
02 April 2007 at 15:41

Calm down all of you. The US won't invade Iran yet: Too far away from the coming elections.

proudlyleft
03 April 2007 at 17:23

PS: While no fan of the Iranian government or mullahs in general, I must add that the Iranian govt does not consist of such self-destructive fools that it will try and toss a few limp nukies, if it ever makes any, at Israel. Because, love, any country that tries a nuclear attack on a US ally -- let alone God's Son On Earth, Israel -- will get wiped off the face of the earth. We all, in the Third World, know that -- no matter what warlike noises our politicians might make. And if the Iranian government does not know that, which is doubtful, then the Iranian people ought to get seriously worried. Because, apart from the nuclear aspect, three hundred years of colonialist history have been enacted on one maxim by the West: if you kill one of ours, we will kill ten of yours! So if Iran tosses a half-assembled nuke, you will have to give up counting the number of big bangs you will hear in that part of the world. And civilised tears will be shed in the West for all those millions of dead Iranian children only after the smoke clears, if it ever does.

Douglas Chalmers
06 April 2007 at 15:25

As with Iraq, george Bush was the only person who ever "...suspect(ed)" any "...WMD facilities". Frankly, just because the Americans want another war is no reason to have one. After "Operation Iraqi Freedom", there couldn't be anything more farcical than to have an "Operation Iranian Freedom".

To say that the US forces "...have trained for this mission since the Iranian revolution of 1979...." is utter drivel. Anyone who remembers their disastrous attempts at grabbing back their embassy staff on their own terms in 1980 would realise that the US certainly had a lot of re-training to do if it was ever to mount a mission anywhere ever again. Search "operation eagleclaw" and "desert one" and see for yourself.

Neither has Vice-President Dick Cheney '...something of a love affair with the US marines..." and the sudden relocation of his Halliburton corporation to Dubai is an indicator of rats leaving a sinking ship if ever there was. I wonder how many people are up-to-date enough on world affairs to realise that any kind of "Global Strike" plan is irrelevant in the face of the necessity to deal with the effects of global climate change.

It has not appeared in the consciousness of the US president that reconstruction of the US economy is far more of an imperative than reconstruction of Iraq. That is why the Democrats have come to power. No amount of attacking or striking will hold back the rising sea levels and the hurricane Katrinas. Sadly, though, the Bush regime has proved to its own people that it has no answers.

Lets not kid ourselves either that the conventional "bunker-busting" bombs will be used again if the US attacks Iran. They (and Israel) have indicated their preference for a 100kiloton nuclear device and that is what they will use if they have the chance. That is to say, there WILL be another Hiroshima and another Nagasaki if the US ever uses these murder weapons in Iran.

metrocosm
08 April 2007 at 20:45

A war could be prevented if IRAN played the same PR game that BUSH is playing. They should just stop nuclear activities until BUSH is out of office. Instead they are feeding into their own demise by playing along with the BUSH administration's game plan.

Simon2502
13 April 2007 at 01:41

Iran- The War Ahead

“There is something terribly wrong with this Britain and America, cruelty and injustice, intolerance and aggression, greed and exploitation; and where once we had the freedom to object, to think and speak as we saw fit, now we have censors and systems of mass surveillance, people turning against their neighbours, Identity Cards soon and Police slowly but surely being armed with guns, coercing our conformity and forcing our submission. How did we let this happen, who is to blame, well certainly there are those that are more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but then if truth be told, if your looking for the guilty we need only look into a mirror. I know why we did it, I know why everyone is afraid, who wouldn’t be….War, terrorism, disease, global warming man made catastrophe, There are a myriad of problems that conspire to corrupt our reason and rob us of our common sense, we have allowed fear to get the best of us, and in our panic we are giving up to the Governments of Tony Blair and GW Bush our right to freedom. We just turn a blind eye, selling off our integrity for cheap tricks, lies and thirty pieces of silver.

They are promising order they are promising us peace and an end to terror and catastrophe and all they ask in return is our silent obedient consent. We must now move to end the silence, we know its wrong to attack Iran, we know its all about greed, yet we have been bought like a whore with a few bucks and a cheap bottle of wine, and we will go along with the lying cheating megalomaniacs, while they give us what we want.

It is immoral to stand by and watch from the side.

It is time we stand up and stop the slow eradication of our liberties and rights before it’s too late. If we don’t, before we know it, we will be living in a totalitarian and authoritarian state.

We need to remind this country what it has forgotten, to remind the world that fairness justice freedom, life are more than just words they are perspectives, Living is not easy, it’s a struggle, but lets try to live with the rest of the world. Is it our vanity that pushes us to force our ideals upon others, if you see nothing, if hatred and greed are what you believe in, if you agree with the crimes of these two governments then I would suggest that you allow the oppression and the tyranny to go on and in time you’ll be held accountable too. If you see what I see, if you feel as I feel and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand with me and bring down the despotic tyrants and together we shall judge them and make them pay.

Lazarus
16 April 2007 at 00:48

U dumb-ass Islamofascists are gonna find out the hard way that "WE (the WEST and Israel) will not be destroyed quietly." U will see the FULL FORCE of YAHWEH's power against your demonic plans. Burn, baby, BURN!!!

Caeser
18 April 2007 at 14:48

Make war not love!! Fucking Hippies!

Lets kill'em all...

If you don't want listen, you have to feel it.

Caeser
18 April 2007 at 14:52

Amen to the

WILD WILD WEST!!!!!!!!!!

You have to make war to reach peace.

ray bright
24 April 2007 at 01:58

The goal of the Israel is to exist be the homeland of Jews within their the historical borders from the time immemorial. Jews claim a very small part of the Middle East as their home. Muslims on the other hand, strive to dominate the whole world. They try to spread their Mohamedanism and their “Allah.

My suggestion is to take the oil away from the Muslims. They have not made the oil, nor have they discovered it. They have not build the oil rigs, or refineries. They don’t even work there, people form the West, India, and Philippines are doing all the work. The Muslims are just collecting the billions. What are we paying them for? For having conquered these lands 1300 years ago? Well, we can conquer them back now. Let them go back to riding camels and growing dates. Without oil revenues they will be harmless.

uuiopp7
09 May 2007 at 15:43

To me he looks like another neocon propaganda tool operating in international arena. Zionist propaganda has not engulfed entire US but is working prevalently in other parts of the world as well. But good thing about it is that people are able to read between the lines now.

Ergo
23 July 2007 at 01:26

Well, this will either happen or it will not. If it does it would be a confirmation that the US is the most evil

country in modern times. A democracy? The American people don't want this any more than they wanted to see Iraq devastated, but it happened anyway. Since 2002, Bush has abrogated the right of the US congress to declare war; "the Decider" now has that right alone. Destroying infrastructure of a country is an international crime; The Nuremberg

trials defined aggression against a sovereign state

as the greatest of all war crimes - when the aggressor state is not under immediate threat of invasion. What a farce of democracy, liberation

and civilization is the US, even if this further crime

is not committed. If there is such a thing as cosmic justice, they should be very afraid.

americaisgreat
21 August 2007 at 05:39

Wake up everybody. There is a iranian, russian, chinese alliance that wants to topple our goverment and they will not stop even if we pull out of iraq. Its funny how everybody forgets 9/11. remember we were attacked. Remember history. Do you think the terrorists backed by iran, russia, china will back down after we leave iraq? I doubt it. If you support a troop pullout then you all better get your weapons ready because they are going to come here. Everybody says that bush is a war criminal and complain about the war but there is no outrage for the beheadings, the terrorist attacks and/or attempts that the utlra-islamists cause. But like most americans today, they don't mind getting punched in the face and then turn away and get kneed in the balls because their lives have not been affected yet. Most of you want to sit back and worry about yourselves, your money, your things, but the bigger picture is a alliance that has been in effect for 11 yrs. that is growing stronger and it will affect this country in the future if action isn't done. The u.s.'s only crime is not acting sooner and allowing 9/11 to happen. When we pull out iraq our enemy's will keep coming. When that happens ,what are you going to do about it. support your country and future or be over run like the french in ww2. They are the bad guys, they attacked us in an act of war. Wake up america. Get your head out of your as@. What will it take for our county to realize it. I guess a nuke going off in 1 of our cities. But i'm sure the patriotism after will only last 6 yrs. until people forget.

mitchy
05 September 2007 at 13:31

I reckon its about time we put all politicians up against a wall and shoot the bloody lot of them - and while we, the people are at it, we'll do idiots like you, Caeser, and you, Lazarus.

Time for a saner, more rational form of world governance I think, by the people for the people, before we end up in a perpetual nuclear winter.

bd
19 September 2007 at 21:25

hey mitchy.......take a look at reality.

the anwsers are always going to be the same...

the u.s. have always been the good side..all through history...and we still are..a lot of innocent germans died in ww2 but what would happened if the u.s. decided to stay home.well guess what. this is the same war! look into it. look at the ties between nazi germany and iran...look at the similar belief system..

do you belive in these things?

what side are you on...

its just funny how whoever gets into office the mindset

changes....because they start looking at inteligence they had not seen before...tthings that should not be made public....and minds get changed.....just look at irans record and it is clear that the u.s. will attack them.because there is only one anwser.

denis fontain
29 September 2007 at 16:55

attack attack now, its the reel time, for bush and the world , iranian your fight is off.

shah
22 October 2007 at 00:29

fuck you denis

no one can do this against iran. you all be fucked if do such stupid tings. I AM A REAL IRAINIAN.

shah
22 October 2007 at 00:31

here is iran, not iraq. your army will dead here like shet

pravin_bahadur
28 October 2007 at 11:04

If the US launches an attack on Iran, the result will be obvious. Multiply the Iraq problem x millions.

The US invasion of Iran, inspite of its obvious and dubious reasons will be for oil. The Iran is pushing for Iran Oil Bourse trading in petroeuro, thereby making the euro a dominant player in the world market, which will eventually cause an economic downfall for the US. Further, there are severel issues of micro/macro economics for the coveted reasons to go to war. And the most obvious is for oil. The US will go to any length to ensure that they rule the middle-east. Will China and Russia keep watching??? I don't think so.

If my country (Nepal) was ever occupied, I would defend it to the last. We have fought off the Chinese and the British and through out history have remained neither conquered, nor colonized. And small a country as is, we are extremely proud of it.

Such I believe would be a feeling in the hearts of any Iranian... or is now in the heart of majority of the Iraqis who view the US as an occupier.

Given an opportunity, I would definitely not hesitate to slit open the throat of an occupier in my soil... and do the same again and again, even though I might die trying.

So tell me, would you not do the same, if America was occupied for example by some Islamist Army?

Forget democracy. Democracy will be a thought that comes later... but the human mind will naturally focus on defending, and eliminating threat - occupier.

They are right. They will try and kill every target of opportunity. And that right now is the US soldier who is mislead into thinking he is fight for freedom. HORSESHIT!!!! Dumbass... you're fighting for nothing.1

To kill occupiers is the right of every Iraqi and Iranian or any other should their country be ever occupied.

So, to all the US and UK pawns now in Iraq, you had a valid fight in Afghanisthan. The world was with you. now you are alone.

I will not regret, so will not the majority of the world, except be sorry for your family, should you get your throats slit, and should a shrapnel pierce your heart in some unmarked road in Iraq.

It was their right to kill you.

It is you thats the occupier.

And you would do the same had it been in your country....

Now wouldn't you????

hussann
08 March 2008 at 14:50

America is not interested in world peace. Its only aim is to get control of Iran's oil now. To my point of view the true terrorists are America and Israel.

hussann
08 March 2008 at 14:54

If i was a leader in a great nation like Russia i would attack America and Israel now.

quantum
12 May 2008 at 08:33

ok.its a struggle?!

Honies.you must know it that iran is a powerful country in the middle east,so american and even world troops cant attack to it and reach to victory!

its a real subject.iran has : sepah,basij and etc...

and has religious people that wait against war with free hands because of their religious though.

think More Dear!

farnaz_nx_ooo
02 July 2008 at 20:04

Hi everyone.my name is farnaz and I am an Iranian girl.I wanted to bright Ur minds about iran.anyone of you ,friend or foe, should know sth about iranian culture and personality. We are a nation who are really sensate.I don't want to say we are good people ,but everyone if know us will say we are kind.in some situations that we are effected we tell things just to cheer people up and encourage them even if we wouldn't be able to do anything we say we do.mahmoud ahmadinejad is a kind of president who told us he will do lots of things for our improvment.he said he will let women to go to stadiums , he will bring the money of oil in people's lives and etc.none of the things he said he would do is done today.Fighting with Israeil and remove it from the map is one thing that he will never do.As he did not help his nation ,he won't help the other nation(felestin). another point to be refered:we muslems believe that ALLAH YAHOWA(I am not sure about dictation) and the god of christians are one.so we love all the people and we respect their riligion. So none of Iranians will be happy to REMOVE ISRAEIL.what we want is peace in felestin.sorry for my bad english and talking a lot(another habit of iranians)!

mohammad
07 July 2008 at 18:08

my name is mohammad. from iran.iranians economic and social condition is very bad. our future is unclear. our president is a big liar. death is better for many iranians than this way of life.i think changing in regime will change situations.maybe farnaz is a conveinent person

Kennrth
28 July 2008 at 04:09

The US government wants Iran to stop enriching uranium. For the sake of world peace this is small price to pay. The west will never really believe it is for peaceful purposes. I don't think the west will tolerate this much longer. Someone in Iran is gambling that the west will sit on their hands and do nothing. I don't believe the west intends to engage in a ground war or occupation in Iran but is intent on destroying its strategic capability later than sooner – not fast enough for Israel. The military is putting forces in place to check any possible military outburst from Iran or its allies after their enrichment plants and strategic targets are destroyed. The US is now talking to Iran letting them know that the time for this action is coming. There will be no war with Iran unless they intend to pursue this activity. But there will be military action and soon unless it capitulates. Contrary to popular belief the Democrats are with the Republicans on this issue but want talks with Iran first which is what is happening now. Contemplation on an embargo action is being discussed as to whether it will help moderates in Iran to effect internal change is being discussed. I think Iran’s leadership is at a crossroad now and might actually be easier for them to accept the military option because of internal politics. The US doesn’t want this because the severe oil shock to the west’s economy. A misstep on either side is very dangerous because it could drag other world powers into what could become a wider conflict. I hope cooler heads will prevail. My guess we may see an embargo first. I think Iran military and religious leadership is making it hard for moderates to stop the enrichment activity which really isn’t worth the trouble. I think the west is hoping that waiting longer will give moderates in Iran a chance to effect change in.

rfwilliams80
13 August 2008 at 23:52

Bush is at it again. I spent three months in 1978 working at military installations in Tehran, Zahadan, and Bandar-e-Abbas. I never met an Iranian during my employ in Iran that I did not like. We all know Iran's leader is no good, but does that give us the right to kill innocent civilians should we decide to invade Iran. Enough is enough.

I will be glad when Bush is replaced with a decent president next January. Obama is correct when he says"It is time for change".

Forget about John McCain, he is just an extension of the Bush administration!

We have lost enough good military troups in Iraq, not to mention the thousands that were seriously wounded.

It is time the United States looks after its own people and not try to save the world!