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Battle of the blogsites

James Macintyre

Published 15 January 2009

The right has dominated the UK online community so far. A new Labour site is fighting back - with help from Obama staffers.

Peter Mandelson’s Second Life avatar, as seen on LabourList.org

Battle of the blogsites

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The crescendo of partisan propaganda over recent years - which is part of a flurry in the run-up to the next general election - is led by the influential blogger Iain Dale. Dale, who has dismissed this writer as a "Labour journalist", is an amiable and influential figure. Yet to portray him as an independent blogger, as the numerous media outlets that carry his commentary do, is not quite right. He is an official Conservative politician, who stood (unsuccessfully) for Norfolk North at the last election in 2005 and is on David Cameron's "priority list" for the next. Further, Dale's brand of socially liberal, but state-slashing, politics is exactly in tune with that of Cameron. Dale's ally Paul Staines, who runs a more vicious blogsite under the pseudonym "Guido Fawkes", is more prone to discredit all politicians, but it is clear that his mission in life is to unseat Gordon Brown, whom he darkly portrays as insane, and to promote the election of the Conservative Party.

The new site is designed to counter the ‘‘Tory trolls’’ who have taken hold over the weird world of virtual British politics

So the launch this week of LabourList.org, a new blogsite to which a range of leftists from cabinet ministers to polemicists will contribute, is overdue. According to the new Labour spin doctor Derek Draper, it will, in the short term, be a "street-fighting" mechanism, by which Labour can redress the perceived online imbalance. But, in the medium term, it aims, with the help of Peter Mandelson (who has embraced the internet with a "Second Life" character of spooky likeness to the rather old-fashioned Business Secretary), to cash in on the "Obama era" by galvanising support via the computer screen as much as on the streets.

With the Culture Secretary Andy Burnham, the Chief Secretary to the Treasury Yvette Cooper and the Climate Change Secretary Ed Miliband taking part in online forums for the site's launch, the validity of its claim to be "independent" may appear questionable. And it is certainly true that Draper, who is currently running the operation from an office in Soho with two Labour-minded interns, is back in the party fold as an unpaid adviser. This has come as a surprise to those who know him. Draper returned from America in 2004 newly trained as a psychotherapist and pledged to have nothing more to do with politics. But now the old, colourful Derek is back, and he's angry. At a Labour conference fringe meeting last autumn, he railed against Labourhome, which had just carried a joint poll with the Independent showing that a majority of party activists wanted Gordon Brown to be ousted as Prime Minister. He shouted at the meeting, attended by the site's founder Alex Hilton: "If you want to wake up in March 2010 and say you were the star blogger of the election, and you got on to Radio 5 Live twice, but the price you pay for that is costing Labour votes and David Cameron in Downing Street, then you can fuck off out of the Labour Party and run your own independent blog somewhere. But the point is no one would bother reading you, would they?"

But those questioning the ability or the willingness of LabourList to unsettle the Brownite leadership of Labour should note that a number of dissidents from left and right have signed up, and among those helping behind the scenes is the Blairite former Downing Street adviser Ben Wegg-Prosser, who will post on why George Bush was right to present Tony Blair with his "medal of freedom". Provocative, yes; hardcore Labour? Not quite.

What Draper freely admits to, however, is that the new site is designed to counter what he calls the "Tory trolls" who dominate the weird world of virtual British politics. "While the Tories do have some gentlemen bloggers like Iain Dale and Tim Montgomerie [of ConservativeHome], the right-wing trolls that infest Tory blogs will eventually do the party a great disservice," he says. "Just cast your eye down the comments at Guido or some of the early comments we had at LabourList, and you'll see how puerile and pointless these people are. The nasty party is alive and kicking."

But the initiative, which Mandelson surprised some by putting his name to, has higher ideals than mere electronic hand-to-hand combat. Last month, a secret meeting was held at Labour HQ attended by some of those involved with Obama's online campaign, including the president-elect's new media director Joe Rospars. He was among 68 people discussing a possible Labour equivalent aimed at reaching out to voters in advance of the election. Philip Gould, Blair's former pollster, was said to be particularly impressed. The meeting will be followed up by a "bloggers' breakfast" on 28 January, hosted by Lord Mandelson and carried simultaneously on Second Life.

For those of us not familiar with Second Life and who do not obsessively check the rather limited range of political blogsites as often as we should, it may be time to log on. The battle of the keyboards is coming to a head. And - at last - the left is fighting back.

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8 comments from readers

Tim_Ireland
15 January 2009 at 14:38

"The right has dominated the UK online community so far. "

Only if you have a very limited view of history, as seen through the PR machines of Paul Staines and Iain Dale.

The left have been very active online as far back as the 2001 general election, leaving the Tories especially in the dust for years.

The first blogging MPs were a Lib Dem MP (Richard Allan) and a Labour MP (Tom Watson). The Conservatives were nowhere to be seen at this stage.

Some Tories like Jeremy Hunt now pose as bloggers, but they ignore comments posted to their website (like many newspapers do) and fail to take on simple community tasks like condemning the actions of the many, many Tory activists who comment using multiple identities. Some people openly allow such activities on their website in pursuit of further meaningless pageloads (see: Paul Staines, bankruptcy, and banner income). There is no sincerity and little meaningful engagement.

And it should be noted that, like Paul Staines and Iain Dale, Derek Draper likes to mask outright censorship behind a pile of deleted 'abuse'. He's learned what little he knows by watching these same latecomers for a few weeks. It's pathetic.

john problem
15 January 2009 at 19:15

Heaven forfend that we should have their flummery popping up on one's laptop screen, as well as in the press and on TV. The fact our politicians have been missing out on the new media is a good thing, and not at all a surprise to we citizens who have long ago recognised that our leaders are the summum bonum of incompetence across the summum board.

Jonny Mac
16 January 2009 at 10:35

"The left have been very active online as far back as the 2001 general election, leaving the Tories especially in the dust for years."

Brilliant. Thanks, Tim, for giving me a good laugh this Friday morning. Appreciated.

Tim_Ireland
16 January 2009 at 10:45

So perhaps, Jonny, you can point me to some significant online initiatives by or in support of the Conservatives during the 2001 or 2005 general elections. Or anywhere in between.

(waits)

Jonny Mac
16 January 2009 at 15:04

Love the "(waits)", Tim.

Well, off the top of my head, Dale started blogging in '03 and Guido in '04. Perhaps not 'initiatives by or in support of the Conservatives' - just entertaining, Tory-leaning and popular blogs. Far more entertaining and poplular, of course, than fatty Watson and (be still my beating heart) Liberal Democrat Richard Allan.

xx

Tim_Ireland
16 January 2009 at 22:36

You've got a lonnng way to go before you get back to the 2001 election, Jonny Mac.

But to help you along, Dale tinkered with blogging mid-2002, but after maybe a dozen entries made over the space of a week, he left his blog to rot and die before returning to the same location (he was lucky the original location wasn't hijacked by a spammer) in December 2003.

Your childish abuse of Watson does nothing to further your case.

What am I saying? You have no case. Just the usual bulldust claim that the Tories were here first.

(They also invented the helicopter, you know.)

And before Iain Dale (then a candidate) came along with a serious effort, there was Lib-Dem MP Richard Allan, Labour MP Tom Watson, Labour Councillor Stuart Bruce, Conservative Councillor James Mills (first serving Tory blogger), Labour MP Austin Mitchell, Labour MP Clive Soley, Lib-Dem Councillor Claire Potter, Labour Councillor Fiona Colley, Conservative Councillor Paul Cumming, Labour Councillors Tim and Megan Swift, Labour Councillor Julian Sharpe, Labour Councillor Andrew Brown, Labour Councillor David Boothroyd, Labour Councillor Bob Piper, and

Lib-Dem Councillors Nigel Howells and John Dixon. Then Iain. In that order.

"The right has dominated the UK online community so far. "

Again, only if you have a very limited view of history.

And the first major online community initiative by the Conservatives? It was in April 2004; they did pretty much what Derek Draper is doing now, and came bumbling/barging onto Teh Interwebs asking people to make creative assets that attacked the Labour Party. It was called 'Let Down By Labour', and it was such a disaster that the only 'entries' they had to show off at the close of play came from some of their chums in advertising.

antileft
18 January 2009 at 05:21

"Well, off the top of my head, Dale started blogging in '03 and Guido in '04. Perhaps not 'initiatives by or in support of the Conservatives' - just entertaining, Tory-leaning and popular blogs."

That's a pathetic answer, jonny. You dont sound smart enough to read about politics- perhaps you should do something less intellectually challenging.

Lorne
19 March 2009 at 00:52

I don't think any amount of left wing propaganda can gloss over the complete mess that the Labour party has made of modern Britain. They can expound their half truths and downright lies to their heart's content in the online and paper mediums but I think they're going to find that nobody is listening any more.

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