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These are Brown's bombs, too

John Pilger

Published 05 July 2007

Just as the London bombs in the summer of 2005 were Blair's bombs, the inevitable consequence of his government's lawless attack on Iraq, so the potential bombs in the summer of 2007 are Brown's bombs. Gordon Brown has been an unerring supporter of the unprovoked bloodbath whose victims now equal those of the Rwandan genocide, according to the American scientist who led the 2006 Johns Hopkins School of Public Health survey of civilian dead in Iraq. While Tony Blair sought to discredit this study, British government scientists secretly praised it as "tried and tested" and an "underestimation of mortality". The "underestimation" was 655,000 men, women and children. That is now approaching a million. It is the crime of the century.

In his first day's address outside 10 Downing Street and his statement to parliament on 3 July, Brown paid not even lip service to those who would be alive today had his government - and it was his government as much as Blair's - not joined Bush in a slaughter justified with demonstrable lies. He said nothing, not a word.

He said nothing about the added thousands of Iraqi children whose deaths from preventable disease have doubled since the invasion, caused by the wilful destruction of sanitation and water purification plants. He said nothing about hospital patients who die every day for want of equipment as basic as a syringe. He said nothing about the greatest refugee flight since the Palestinians' Naqba. He said nothing about his government's defeat in Afghanistan, and how the British army and its Nato allies are killing civilians, including whole families. Typically, on 29 June, British forces called in air strikes on a village, reportedly bombing to death 45 innocent people - almost as many as the number bombed to death in London in July 2005. Compare the reaction, or rather the silence. They were only Muslims. And Muslims are the world's most numerous victims of a terrorism whose main sources are Washington, Tel Aviv and London.

And he said nothing about his government's role in Afghanistan's restoration as the world's biggest source of opium, a direct result of the invasion of 2001. Any dealer on the streets of Glasgow will have the stuff, straight from warlords paid off by the CIA and in whose name British soldiers are killing and dying pointlessly.

He said nothing about stopping any of this. Not a word. Not a hint.

Do the dead laugh? In the new Prime Minister's little list of priorities was "extend[ing] the British way of life".

The paymaster of the greatest British foreign policy disaster of the modern era, Brown could not even speak its name, let alone meet the military families that waited to speak to him. Three squaddies were killed on his first day.

Has there been anything like the tsunami of unction that has engulfed the departure of Blair and the elevation of Brown? Yes, there has. Think back a decade. Blair, wrote Hugo Young, "wants to create a world none of us has known, where the laws of political gravity are overturned", one where "ideology has surrendered entirely to 'values'". The new chancellor, effused the Observer, would "announce the most radical welfare Budget since the Second World War".

The "values" were fake and so was the new deal. One media-managed stunt followed another as Brown delighted the stock market and comforted the very rich and celebrated the empire, and ignored the longing of the British electorate for a restoration of public services so badly damaged by Margaret Thatcher. One of the first decisions by Harriet Harman, Blair's first social security secretary and a declared feminist, was to abolish the single parents' welfare premium and benefit, in spite of her pledge to the House of Commons that Labour opposed these impoverishing Tory-inspired cuts. Today, Harman is Brown's deputy party leader and, like all of the "new faces" around the cabinet table with "plans to heal old wounds" (the Guardian), she voted for an invasion that has destroyed the lives of tens of thousands of women.

Some feminism.

And when Blair finally left, those MPs who stood and gave him a standing ovation finally certified parliament as a place of minimal consequence to British democracy. The courtiers who reported this disgrace with Richard Dimbleby royal-occasion reverence are flecked with the blood spilled by the second-rate actor and first-rate criminal. They now scramble for the latest police press release. That the profane absurdity of the going of Blair and the silence and com pliance of Brown - political twins regardless of their schoolboy spats - may well have provoked the attacks on London and Glasgow is of no interest. While the crime of the century endures, there almost certainly will be others.

Shame.

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30 comments from readers

Brown-good-news
05 July 2007 at 17:03

I don't think we will hear high-pitched statements from Mr. Brown but it is obvious that he understands the depth of the problem. It will take time to repair the damage done to Britain's image (home and abroad) by the Blair admin (title awards to satanists being one of them). So these are not Brown's bombs.

It would've been great to hear the Prime Minister addressing the Iraqi mayhem but what good is a statement with no substance? What is needed is a new approach and first signs are positive.

Civilian deaths in Afghanistan are terrible and should be addressed (it cannot go on forever) but Britain's presence in the country is greatly appreciated (and supported by upwards 70% of the populace). Sir Cowper-Cole's statement is by far the best piece of news from Afghanistan. Afghan secularists believe not only Britain should expand its embassy in Kabul (the arrival of 250 new British diplomats is welcomed) but sign a bilateral agreement with Afghanistan on long-term strategic partnership (up to 50 years) . Britain has a lot to gain form its presence in the gas-oil rich region not to mention geostrategic factors. Afghanistan in turn gains from Britain's intellectual and political might that is so important as the country is struggling to rebuild its institutions.

This should not be seen as some sort of an imperialist annexation: both countries strictly pursue their interests. It just happens that in more than three centuries Afghan national interests coincide with that of Britain and its less mature but more powerful US ally.

GideonPolya
06 July 2007 at 01:35

Excellent article by John Pilger. The Johns Hopkins University medical epidemiology scientists from the World’s top Bloomberg School of Public Health and published in the top medical journal The Lancet found 655,000 post-invasion excess deaths in Iraq as of July 2006. Using impoverished but peaceful Iraq neighbours Syria and Jordan as a mortality base-line, the post-invasion Iraqi excess deaths total 1.0 million as of mid-2007 (see: http://globalbodycount.blogspot.com/ ).

There is a key LEGAL point associated with actual violent occupations as specified by Articles 38, 55 and 56 of the Geneva Convention Relative to the Protection of Civilians in Time of War (see: http://www1.umn.edu/humanrts/instree/y4gcpcp.htm ), specifically Occupier responsibility to do everything in its power to preserve the health and lives of the subjugated.

The post-invasion excess deaths (avoidable deaths, deaths that did not have to happen) in the Occupied Palestinian, Iraqi and Afghan Territories now (mid-2007) total 0.3 million, 1.0 million and 2.4 million, respectively (largely due to war criminal Occupier non-provision of life-sustaining requisites unequivocally demanded of Occupiers by the Geneva Convention); the post-invasion under-5 infant deaths total 0.2 million, 0.5 million and 1.9 million, respectively; and refugees total 7 million (4.2 million registered with the UN), 4 million and 3.7 million, respectively (see: http://mwcnews.net/content/view/13415/42/ , http://mwcnews.net/content/view/13099/26/ and “BODY COUNT. Global avoidable mortality since 1950” - go to the British Library; see: http://globalbodycount.blogspot.com/ ).

Brown is up to his neck in innocent blood. Britain, America and politically correct racist (PC Racist) White Australia are forever besmirched with these atrocities until those responsible are arraigned before the International Court, tried and punished – as indeed demanded by outstanding Jewish British Nobel Prize-winning writer Harold Pinter in his Nobel Prize acceptance speech in 2005:

http://www.countercurrents.org/arts-pinter081205.htm .

Brown-good-news
06 July 2007 at 20:03

We can only speculate on the extent of leverage the ex-Chancellor had over a pathologically-fundamentalist government in matters of foreign policy. His strained relations with blair is where we should draw our conclusions from. Obviously he had to support the country once we were implicated in an illegal war in Iraq.

A man should be judged by his actions. Prime Minister's first proposal on constitutional reform (to surrender executive power to Parliament over matters of national security) is indicative that not only he is a man of great intellect but also a leader with a vision.

eddiexx
07 July 2007 at 20:34

John Pilger is an idiot. The crime of the century? What, worse than Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin, Hilter. The vast majority of muslims killed in Iraq have been slaughtered by other muslims.

phil
07 July 2007 at 21:45

To argue that the method used in calculating deaths in Iraq is acceptable is not to say that the way that it was used in the very dodgy survey was accurate because the method assumes fairly benign circumstances. And given that the vast majority of deaths in Iraq are the result of conflict within the community it is frankly bizarre to blame this on the US just as it would be equally bizarre to blame the deaths of 40m people on Neville Chamberalin because he declared war on Germany.

aded
08 July 2007 at 17:52

John Pilger, 2004: “We cannot afford to be choosy. While we abhor and condemn the continuing loss of innocent life in Iraq, we have no choice now but to support the resistance, for if the resistance fails, the ‘Bush gang’ will attack another country. If they succeed, a grievous blow will be suffered by the Bush gang.”

In his own words, Pilger supports the Ba'athist and Islamist thugs who murder, bomb and torture in their attempt to overthrow the democratic government of Iraq, which is supported by the UK and US under the mandate of UN Resolution 1483.

Ergo
08 July 2007 at 20:12

What eddiexx and phil are stating, in a veiled way, is that Arabs and Muslims are essentially bad people

who kill each other unless so prevented. Isn't that racist? Have Christians never been involved in civil wars in North America and Europe? Other groups as well? Is killing innocent people of other religions somehow blameless in comparison? There would be a great todo were this to be said of other groups.

Support for the puppet government of Iraq is the extreme of naivete and again, an example of racism.

phil
08 July 2007 at 22:36

I am not saying that Arabs and muslims are `essentially bad people` because killing in the name of religion, or killing using religion as an excuse, has clearly been true of Christians as well - look at the Counter Reformation. But what must be accepted is that the vast majority of killings in Iraq over the last few years are the result of Muslims killing Muslims and to blame either the US or the UK for that is to ignore what has really happened. Where, for example, are the marches in London with either Sunnis or Shi`ites saying `Not in My Name`? A true insurgency against a foreign invader ought to unite the different groups in Iraq and not consist of random car bombs and suicide carnage against its own people.

Ergo
09 July 2007 at 00:45

To Phil: If a concerted effort were made by a hypothetical and immoral superpower to divide the people in any western country , but especially those in North America, where there already exists an obscene and growing disparity in income and bankruptcy is rife, do you really think you wouldn't see a great deal of violence between groups of one kind or another? If you review the history of violence in Iraq since 2003 you may be surprised to know that sectarian violence in Baghdad was carried out by masked men that no one recognized. It was thought by some that these were western-backed for the express purpose of roiling the waters. There is extreme competition for resources and jobs because infrastructure was destroyed by the invaders AGAINST INTERNATIONAL LAW and civil society is controlled by outsiders for their own benefit having made illegal changes in the Iraq consitution. These are high crimes. As well, certain groups have been purposely pittied against others in the well-known and used stratagem of divide and conquer.

Britains and North Americans did demonstrate against the 2003 assault in record numbers but

were ignored. Terrorist attacks against civilians are

always reprehensible, but look at the record of over-all violence; the west is far and away more guilty.

I think you kid yourself if you think internicene conflict

is evidence of inferior morality. Use your imagination.

phil
09 July 2007 at 08:24

Eartoground should stop putting words into my mouth. I repeat. The vast majority of deaths in Iraq in the last few years have been caused by Muslims killing Muslims and no amount of dotty conspiracy theories about masked thugs can alter that. I did not argue that this is evidence of inferior morality but I will argue that the lack of protest about this from those only to happy to blame the US and the UK for all the travails of Iraq and unwilling to criticise sectarian killing with equal enthusiasm smells of hypocrisy .

Ergo
09 July 2007 at 17:34

To Phil: Just one more comment. Do you believe it would be impossible UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES for a western country to be turned against itself in a civil war with faction against faction, Christian sect against Christian sect, the poor against the better off, looting and killing, all or many feeling hopeless about the future and all manipulated by an outside power intent on exploitation? The wars of religion you mentioned previously, horrendous though they were, are just a limited example of what is possible among the white," civilized" nations. No doubt there was protest then too, and I'm sure many Muslims and Arabs are openly protesting the sectarian violence now, too. But you are expecting too much if you think that will have much effect.

Look at the influence the far more organized anti-war protests had, and are having. I apologize if I misrepresented your position but it seems to me that you are putting an unfair burden on segments of the population that are already heavily stressed and for whom I have much sympathy. Adieu.

phil
09 July 2007 at 18:24

Sorry can`t get away with that Eartoground. I repeat my point that if this was a true insurgency against foreign invaders then I would not expect that Sunnis and Shi`ites would knock the six bells out of each other but attempt to find common ground - at least against the coalition. And I would like to see those who opposed the war be equally vocal about the Muslim on Muslim carnage in Iraq now.

Ergo
09 July 2007 at 21:26

Well Phil, you provoke me to further comment. Sunnis and Shia are not "knock(ing) the six bells out of each other" as you so colourfully put it. They have lived together for hundreds of years, along with various Christian sects, Jews and other religions. Ordinary citizens are not killing each other. There are militias, insurgents, criminal gangs, factions working for other countries to keep discord alive and al Qaeda which did not have a foothold in Iraq previous to the invasion. Of course it would be great if everthing solved itself but that would be like unscrambling eggs - not impossible, but needing true ingenuity - like the immediate departure of the occupying Americans for a start and new, true elections. Is Maliki representative of all Iraqis? It is quite useless to blame the victims - worse than useless because it absolves the guilty.

phil
09 July 2007 at 22:27

I quite agree that scrambled eggs cannot be unscrambled but why is it so difficult for people like Eartoground to condemn the dreadful murderous activities of Muslims who are slaughtering Muslims in Iraq especially when one of the great slogans of the march against invading Iraq was that Muslims should unite against the killing of Muslims - or is it OK if Muslims are killing each other?

zaqualaung
10 July 2007 at 01:13

to the guy who couldn't figure out what century it is.....

the historical figures you are talking about lived and acted in a different century. so their genocides (greater than Bush's) aren't in competition with Bush & Blair.

Kapeesch???

Ergo
10 July 2007 at 03:07

To Phil again: One of the great slogans of the march against invading Iraq was that westerners should unite against the killing of Muslims and Arabs. Muslims and Arabs were not killing each other in very great numbers except perhaps the Iraq/Iran war in which Europe and the US were complicit. Of course Muslims and Arabs should not be killing each other (or anyone else) but the situation is much more complex. I condemn vigorously all killing but it's simplistic to do so without understanding the dynamics behind it. On the other hand, I haven't seen any condemnation on Phil's part of the illegal and unconscionable ruination of a sovereign country,

under falsely held premises and objectives that changed with the wind from month to month; our protection from imminent attack by nuclear bombs; liberation for women - who were much better off under Saddam Hussein; need to protect oil access; al-Qaeda, and so on.

Yes solidarity is good, but it is not the greatest virtue.

Some times it is a vice , as when directed unfairly against a third party. You seem to be saying that internicene struggle is the worst facet of this situation. On that point you can't get off so easily either.

Ganpat Ram
11 July 2007 at 19:00

People lik e Pilger lack common sense.

It is always possible that any country's foreign policy may be worng headed or even highly objectionable.

I am not going to ask here if the policies of Muslim countries are always right. I suppose they are.

(How interesting that we all speak of "Muslim" countries but not of Christian or Hindu ones? Why is claiming countries for religion so much more acceptable to those who say they are liberal and secular when it is Islam ? )

But a country is a country. Its citizens and those who live in it are expected to play by certain rules. To show certain basic loyalties. And one of these is that even if you disagree thunderously with the foreign policy of the country in which you live you do not resort to terroism to set things right.

This is what Pilger does not grasp.

As for Iraq. At least the allies got rid of Saddam Hussein, one of the worst of all tyrants.

And when was the last time you read Pilger sounding off about Darfur, where Muslims are killing Muslims?

monocrater
15 July 2007 at 20:28

Eartoground: you are blinded by your pathalogical socialist, neo communist ideology as is pilger. your guilt-ridden hatred for the west which has brought you so much including the very computer you're using, the internet, this article, and movies by pilger is pathetic in its gross misguided assumptions.

1. WHAT "international law" was broken? name me the law, where it is written, the code, and the official recognizing body(ies).

2. afghanistan is grateful for western presense and has been the most stable since 1973 when the former king was desposed in a coup. do you believe that afghanis were better off under the taliban with soccer field executions, no education for girls, burkas by force, no artistic expression unless it was for islam and providing a safe haven for al queda? you believe western presense really worse than the taliban?

3. iraq attacked its neighbor iran unprovoked and on its own decision - including using chemical weapons (not supplied by the west). it also attacked its peaceful neighbor kuwait unprovoked in one of the most savage documented war crime invasions ever seen. rape, murder, mahem, theft, destruction - en masse. iraq also violated numerous times the cease fire which it signed with the west and refused to cooperate with UN inspections. kuwait is forever appreciative of western intervention. so you believe kuwait would have been better off without american intervention?

4. saddam's regime divided and ruled his own population by religion and ethnicity in a way that would be considered savagely backwards in the west. he rewarded sunnis, violently oppressed shiites, murdered kurds en masse, drained the livelihood of tens of thousands of marsh arabs, had death squads dispatched to quell dissent, threw prisoners off of roofs, filmed gang rapes of women, strapped grenades on political opponents and blew them up, had horrific torture chambers grossly disfiguring and murdering captives. mass graves continue to be unearthed. the true death toll under saddam will likely never be known. what would you have done about iraq? don't give me this humanitarian UN crap! we now know how well the oil-for-food program worked with its kickbacks and corruption.

5. the 655,000 civilian deaths in post-invasion iraq is highly disputable. there is a complete lack of transparency in methodology, accountability in accuracy, and what is considered a war-related death. the instability and division in iraq creates fertile ground for wild figures, plus attempts to purposely mislead investigators that could not statistically be verifiable. you however, would quote this figure without an iota of skepticism in your blind contempt. tell me, were you also keeping count of the deaths caused by saddam against iraq, kuwait, his own people?

6. the american economy is doing just fine, thank you. there is not an epidemic of bankruptcy, unemployment is at a very low 5.5% (compare that to france), the stock market is booming, and i'm getting a new iphone soon. my business is growing and i'm hiring. i love capitalism. the poor are by and large there by choice, by misguided cultural attitudes, bad parenting, lack of personal motivation, and sometimes a complete aversion to work. it's not the the system or "corporations" that create poverty, it's the individual and family attitude about personal betterment. btw, corporations (including mine) and churches donate tens of billions to charitable causes and philanthropy EACH YEAR in our capitalist society. i'd rather make the prudent choice where my gift goes than have the gov't forcibly take it from me and redistribute it forever only to subsidize dependency and indolence.

7. do you sincerely believe that if the same wealth and military architecture of the US was just handed over to hugo chavez, the clerics in iran, kim jong il, robert mugabe, omar hasan al-bashir, bashar al-assad, hamas, osama bin laden, fidel castro, gaddafi, and so on, that they would only use it for benevolent purposes? that only the US would use it more destructively? that the world would be better off? - i guess you would interpret that as a rhetorical question - lol

you're an ideologue who again like pilger will remain on the fringe in rational discussion because of wholly imbalanced and misguided ideologies.

Ton
16 July 2007 at 16:56

This comment of "Monocrater" - which means something like "sole master, autocrat, absolute monarch"- is very interesting. It deserves to be analyzed for which I lack the competence. Nevertheless I wonder at some statements. Does our Louis XIV really never have heard of "international law"? No wonder that he thinks the US and the UK broke none. He seems to think that being a capitalist is not being an ideologue and that the system of capitalism of itself legitimates to drop in everywhere. Never heard about the sovereignty of other peoples (and/or their states)? As for donating, Mr Autocrat has no problem with the spending by the Bush administration of his money - not by tens of billions but by hundreds of them - on an interventionist and autocratic war, but he wants to keep the poor on his own leash. Well, this is the real voice of the Autocrat.

monocrater
17 July 2007 at 00:22

Ton: the name "monocrater" is from the mono craters volcanic range in california - a favorite hiking spot of mine. it's blatantly clear how misguided and pathological you are - just like the other fanatical pilger diciples. you dissect my name for some hidden horrible meaning to find something to fit your warped beliefs. you are correct though, you do lack the competence to analyze.

Ton
17 July 2007 at 09:03

To Monocrater: Well, the comparison of yourself with a crater does not make you any more social, does it?

As for the law that is broken and the code where it is written, see art. 2.4 of the United Nations Charter: "All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations." As you know this was not only signed by the US and the UK, but conceived by their politicians. There are people who you do not have to spell this out, since it is a universal principle.

monocrater
17 July 2007 at 18:24

If it is "universal principle" then all wars in history, even to remove the Nazi's, or Japan's bombing of Pearl Harbor are "illegal". But, if you want to play this "legal" game may I point out that UN Resolution 687 signed by Iraq in 1991 which brought end to the 1991 Gulf War was a Cease Fire agreement (not a peace agreement), in which a breach of terms permits further military action to be resumed. Iraq proceeded to violate the terms repeatedly over 12 years, most famously denying access to suspected weapons facilities to UN inspectors - that violation alone was cause for action. Not to mention numerous no-fly zone violations, shooting at coalition aircraft, possessing and manufacturing scud missiles exceeding range limits imposed by the resolution. Harboring fugitive terrorist Abu Nidal, providing medical treatment and refuge to known al qaeda terroroist Abu Musab Zarqawi in 2002 (violation of section H) and so on and so forth. So, the military action to remove Saddam from power was fair, just, and warranted. A law is only effective if it is enforced.

Ton
18 July 2007 at 11:09

Do I want to play the what you call "legal game"? May I cite you? "1. WHAT "international law" was broken? name me the law, where it is written, the code, and the official recognizing body(ies)." I just tried to put you on the trail. It were mainly the US and the UK who brewed the rule I referred to. The representative of the US even stipulated that the ban on force was meant to be an "absolute all-inclusive prohibition". Don't blame me for the stupidity of this kind of thinking, as shown by your eruptive argumentation.

monocrater
18 July 2007 at 17:57

Resolution 687 - all that needs to be said.

Ton
18 July 2007 at 18:11

So far that is only an opinion, not a legal ruling.

honkin
24 July 2007 at 01:04

Well, well, well monocrater.

Was Germany's invasion of Poland illegal, based on some "universal principle"? Possibly. There was no UN back then and it seemed that countries did what they wanted using force and it ended up in the world at war twice. How do you think Britain built an Empire? Europe stepped up to the plate to challenge the Nazis in WWII, with mainly Britain and the USSR leading the way. Hey, even the US joined in, albeit once most of the hard yards had been done by the Soviets and Brits. It took a direct attack for them to get involved. They weren't going to buy into it, even after 2 and a half years. Was Japan's bombing of Pearl Harbour, then, illegal? Well, it was wartime and an attack is an attack in war - isn't it? I don't know that legalities come in to it. Japan wanted the US in the war for their own reasons and they got their wish. Nobody knew Truman was so much a glove puppet, though, as to drop not 1, but 2 nuclear bombs on them.

And how many UN resolutions against Israel have we seen come and go with no action. What a fabulous excuse - Resolution 687. It is a disgrace to cite any UN Resolution as an excuse for what has transpired in the last 4 years.

The UN is a toothless tiger controlled by the US. The US received absolutely no UN approval before it INVADED a sovereign state under false pretences.

Did you read that the very resolution you cite? It also mentions "Recalling the objective of the establishment of a nuclear-weapons-free zone in the region of the Middle East"? The largest nuclear power in the Middle East is the largest terrorist state in the region - ISRAEL.

The resolution also talks of the destruction of all of Iraq's chemical and biological weapons and other ballistic missiles with a range greater than 150km. Nuclear weapons are strictly forbidden from being manufactured etc. Let's just say WMD. That's a fair enough call. Disarm them so everybody can feel safe.

You remember that reasoning, don't you? It was the public reason the COALITION OF THE WILLING (to murder) actually say they INVADED. I remember vividly Colin Powells address to the UN and the unchallenged lies he proclaimed.Iraq's ties to al Qaeda. That one has been disproven over and over. Saddam, for all he was a tyrant, despised al Qaeda. The only time they have been active inside Iraq, is since the INVASION.

Senior UN weapons inspectors have said time and time again since the INVASION started and before, that there was no evidence of any WMD programs in Iraq.

In fact, the evidence indicated that the initial Gulf conflict, weapons inspections and the sanctions brought about by UN Resolution 661 had eradicated all of Iraq's WMD capabilities.

Just note that according to UNICEF, this very resolution is responsible for the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children. Often things blocked from entering Iraq were medical supplies and equipment, vital in treating illness. Children were dying of diseases we do not experience in our own countries and which are entirely preventable.

Article 17 of your famous Resolution 687 also demands that Iraq repay all of its foreign debt, which it had repudiated. It would be nice to see the US repay the $1.9 billion it owes to the UN. Why do you think the US is permitted such lattitude by the UN in anything it does in the world?

Article 20 of your resolution talks says "Decides, effective immediately, that the prohibitions against the sale or supply to Iraq of commodities or products, other than medicine and health supplies". So it was illegal to sell anything to Iraq other than medicines and health supplies. Australia's sale of wheat comes to mind. Funny though - somebody should have told the US and UK, who repeatedly blocked medicines and health supplies from being allowed into Iraq citing the UN Sanctions.

Finally, there is article 34, which states "Decides to remain seized of the matter and to take such further steps as may be required for the implementation of the present resolution and to secure peace and security in the area".

Now, and please try to be honest here, would you say there is MORE "peace in the area" today than there was in either 1991 or 2003? Not by a long shot.

And let's just remember UN Resolution 1441, which called for the resumption of weapons inspections and made it clear that further resolution needed to be passed upon any non-compliance by Iraq.

Both the U.S. ambassador to the UN, John Negroponte, and the UK ambassador Jeremy Greenstock publicly confirmed this reading of the resolution, assuring that Resolution 1441 provided no "automaticity" or "hidden triggers" for an invasion without further consultation of the Security Council.

Bottom line, the US led INVASION flew in the face of that resolution. But hey - who's going to rebuff the US when they owe you $1.9 billion.

Fact is the US planned the INVASION of Iraq long before any mention of WMDs or even September 11, 2001. It was, and is part of a strategic aim in the region.

Can you honestly tell me that they prepared for war from the time of Colin Powell's address to the UN in February 2003 and then invaded in March 2003? It is not logistically possible to prep and invade in that time. They could not have been preparing for war before that point, as they still had no UN mandate. They couldn't have - could they?

R Bingham
25 July 2007 at 10:36

Honkin - I fully support your arguments which are based on facts readily available from various reliable sources. Monocrater reflects the views and opinions of a surprising number of Neocon Republicans who never let facts interfere with their ramblings. Denial is dangerous - these people are already building a similar case against Iran. PNAC tells it all!

Andy_Whit
19 August 2007 at 18:57

"John Pilger is an idiot. The crime of the century? What, worse than Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin, Hilter. The vast majority of muslims killed in Iraq have been slaughtered by other muslims."

Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin and Hitler all committed atrocities in the 20th century. We're in the 21st century now, although you can be forgiven for being confused because I appreciate we haven't managed to wrench ourselves away from the real politik of the 20th century.

What evidence do you have to show most Muslims were killed by other Muslims?

Matthew
10 January 2008 at 12:41

Having read this far in the discussion, it strikes me that opinion is the weapon of choice. Is objectivity a non starter in this type of forum? - I suppose it is because the demand for and the space for underpinning evidence just don't exist

david fitzpatrick
10 July 2008 at 14:43

I am just curious to know why the US invaded Iraq at all? Why not the Sudan? Why not Rwanda? For that matter why not Uzbekistan? Why not Mississipi in 1963-or any year after the Reconstruction period? Indeed, why did they withdraw Federal trops. Why did they invade Guatemala, the Dominican Republic, Cuba, Grenada, Panama, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Nicaragua (twice) Granada, The Phillipines-why did they engineer coups in Iran, Chile, Guatemala, Venezeula, and on and on and on. There might be a thousand and one good reasons to be an imperialist-a few-because Man is unspeakably vile unless carefully brought up in privilege and must therefore be beaten and cajoled for the sake of the real human beings, that there is no feasible political and economic solution to the ramshackle state of affairs two thousand years of organized sadism and mind-deadening ignorance that persist in spite of the progess of science and culture or (the one I know you like) that I just like beating up on helpless people as a relief from all the smiling and backslapping I hace to do, or even (good for mixers), because Daddy though rich was an outrageous humbug and I an so gorgeously honest. But for GOD"S SAKE lets not pretend that it DOES NOT EXIST.

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