Religion and science do mix

Schools need to rethink the curriculum

I asked a much-acclaimed headteacher the other day about the secret of his success. Consistency, he said. Schools did best when they had consistent approaches to behaviour, teaching and learning. People thought consistency was dull; in fact, it was exciting, even sexy.

We did not then go on to discuss whether creationism and intelligent design should be taught alongside evolution in school science lessons. But it later struck me that to continue as we are - teaching one version of the world in one classroom and a quite different version across the corridor - is hardly consistent. That is why I have some sympathy with Professor Michael Reiss, the Church of England minister who has stepped down as director of education at the Royal Society after arguing "there is much to be said for allowing students to raise any doubts they have [about evolution]" in science lesson.

I am an atheist, though not quite a practising one. By that, I mean I sometimes attend church services, albeit only for aesthetic and cultural reasons. I have no problem with marking births, marriages and deaths in Christian services, because the churches have developed effective, time-honoured rituals for these milestones. I think children should read the King James Bible because it is one of the glories of our language and its influence on English prose style is comparable to that of Mozart on European music. But I do not like faith schools or the teaching of religion in schools as a discrete subject. To me, intelligent design is an attempt to reintroduce creationism in a more plausible form, having got round the manifest falsehood that the world began in 4004BC. It is a theory, but it happens to be wrong, while Darwin's theory of natural selection, overwhelmingly supported by evidence, is right.

Christians - at least C of E members - may agree. The Church's website assures us there is nothing in natural selection that "contradicts Christian teaching". I beg to differ: Christianity demands a rational being capable of moral choices. It can accept that such a being may take time to evolve and share ancestry with chimpanzees. It can even accept that the being might not take a human form, though I'm not sure what that does to the stuff about "made in the image of God". But unless something like us comes along eventually, and unless things are designed for us to emerge, the doctrine of redemption is meaningless. Anyone who understands natural selection knows there was nothing inevitable about the arrival of Homo sapiens, and we should not imagine evolution was always striving to this end. All organisms face extinction if they fail to adapt to environmental changes. It will almost certainly happen to us, perhaps quite soon.

The C of E says it objects only to social Darwinism, which "elevates selfishness into a virtue". Our social relationships and moral choices are not dictated by our genes, it insists. This, to my mind, is true, but a cop-out. The difficulty with mainstream evolutionary theory for Christians is not that it denies that humans are free moral agents, but that it denies such agents are a necessary outcome. It leaves them with a God who, after setting a universe in motion, sits twiddling his thumbs for aeons on the off-chance that beings capable of sin and of appreciating his works come along. This insouciant God is as implausible as the hyperactive God of Genesis.

Physics presents no comparable difficulty. On the contrary, because the laws of physics favour the development of matter, suns, planets and, ultimately, life, a supreme being calibrating the controls fits quite nicely. That is why religious folk never try to interfere with physics lessons.

So what should schools do? Keeping religion and biology separate, as though one has no bearing on the other, is intellectually incoherent. Brighter pupils will detect the inconsistency.

My answer is to take religion out of RE lessons (or whatever they are now called) and integrate it with other subjects. It is impossible to understand history, music, art, architecture and literature without understanding the role of religion. The same applies to science, which proceeded for centuries within an intellectual framework based on faith. Children should learn how Darwin developed his theory, how it was later tested and elaborated, how and why the Victorian churches opposed it, the spiritual anguish of many Victorians, and how some people, in defiance of evidence, have recently invented intelligent design to rescue a lost cause.

If that is what Michael Reiss wants, I support him. Pupils will have to learn that the theory of natural selection conflicts with one aspect of religious doctrine. But that is a problem for Reiss and his Church, not for educators.

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ft79's picture

Chris,

Agnostic and atheist are two different positions.
Gnosticism concerns knowledge and theism concerns belief.

Most people who call themselves atheists are also agnostics. Even the atheists who say they know there is no god are talking about knowledge in the tentative sense. Which can be updated by evidence or possibly in some cases a convincing argument.

The Wikipedia page on this has a lot of helpful information.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic

clatz's picture

Peter,

You are cracking me up :-)

I for one am glad there is both variation in the population, including looks and what people find attractive in others (including same sex).

If there weren't, then perhaps no one would ever find a thin geek like myself sexy. Fortunately someone does!

Chris9's picture

lorriman, what?

The multiverse problem is a 'public interest' idea that comes from Quantum mechanics. It is not testable, and so is not useful in science.

Yes, 'medling' could stop us discovering. For example those with a low IQ that destry field of GM crops stop the science. But then science as a method does not fail; the failure is stupidity. Any unpredicatable external interaction will stop the science, that much is too obvious even to say.

Perhaps you simply dont understand things so you resort to truisms. Why dont you just ignore science until you understand it. I think your life would be hard though because you would need to turn out your electric lights, sell your car, turn off the computer, never watch TV, stop buying from shops where goods are delivered by modern trnsport, avoid modern farming methods, stop using modern medicine........

abdulhye89's picture

science in no way contradicts Islam, to understand religion, u have to use different approach because for Islam is a universal religion, for every man and woman for every day and age.

if you study Islam and science, you will see that many modern scientifc discoveries have already been mentioned in the quran, which was revealed to an illiterate person more than 1400 years ago. and know that the quran is not intended to be a book of science, zoology, geography etc.

why are some people so interested in tha past, and yet have no concern about their indiviual future. I.E. DEATH.

for EVERYONE OF US, death is a reality. but people do not give concern to this.
how a can a person of no religion claim 'NOTHING' happens after death when he has not been there and nor has anybody been there and come back to tell us. so there is no point showing arrogance of claiming to know what happens beyond death.

Islam has the answers, for if God did exist and produce this AMAZING UNIVERSE, then dont you think he has the answers to all our problems, queries and knowledge of the unseen and life beyond graves.

so we should turn to Islam for Islam is nothing but a confirmation of the ealier and orginal scriptures (i.e. torah, bible)

study Islam for you may discover things that you wont learn from media or present day corrupt muslim people and nations. and i testify there none worthyof worship except All-Mighty Allah alone.

lorriman's picture

Chris, the religious person is claiming proof, not just evidence. That he can't prove it to you doesn't matter: hypothetically it is reasonable for that person to be a scientist since the non-existence of a God cannot be proven, his faith may be authentic. It doesn't make any difference whether there is any evidence of a god or not.

Martin A's picture

These fascinating issues are explored in a new collection of essays, The Edge of Reason? Science and Religion in Modern Society (Continuum, 2008), which gives voice to social scientists, natural scientists and theologians whose experience encourages a new, more forgiving dialogue on this crucial societal issue, even as they still disagree on metaphysical issues.  The diverse group of authors include prominent figures such as Louis Wolpert, Ian Reader, John Hedley Brooke, David Sloan Wilson, Michael Shermer, Mary Midgley, and Steven Mithen.

ADS's picture

To Chris. A cool, calm response with humility. Are you sure your a scientist:) ? I just really believe the knee jerk reaction and furore that the majority of the science fraternity incited against Dr Reiss was uncalled for but extremely predictable. When I read many of the quotes from major figure heads in science, clearly in anger of any such debate . It made me just think that even though scientists believe they have answers they, for me and obviously countless others are just not enough. Where God provides comfort and rest for his people. In not just their hour of need but as part of their daily lives. Science merely is a cold instrument in opposition of what I and many believe is the source and power of the creation of the world. Please, if you have some time google Dr David Walker (Oxford Bible Church) or even contact him for probing. An academic and man of God. Very interesting how he ties his analytical with spiritual.

lorriman's picture

Clatz:"A scientist ...I would have though those that are theistic, must hold views that are counter to those of science"

Why? So far that is only true of creationists, who are biblical literalists. But most of Christianity has never had a dogma that the Bible must be literally interpreted, and are open to big bangs and everything else.

clatz's picture

abdulhye89, can you tell me why Islam should be believed over any other religion?

Chris9's picture

ADS, science does not opose religion, although some scientists might; not me,

The drama over Reiss is probably more a reflection of the way science and religion clash than anything he did. There is no need for any of this clash, but for some reason both 'sides' get defensive.

I would just say again that there is no room in science for religion. But the same is true of football, there is no room in science for football. Of course, if the scientist wanted, he/she could play footbal after a hard day at the lab. But when in the lab you do science, not ball kicking.

So football, religion, science: three different things.

Does anyone think there should be an article titled science and football do mix? That makes as much sense as an article about science and religion do mix In my mind.

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