Atheist in memory lapse and slavery shock

Following a week of attacks, the evolutionary biologist responds to his critics

Some years ago a colleague was admitted to hospital and a nurse came over to her bedside to fill in a form with her personal details. "Religion?" "None." Later my colleague overheard a pair of nurses gossiping about her. "She doesn't look like a nun."

The absurd presumption that everyone has a religion, almost as a part of their identity, to be ticked off on a form the way one ticks the boxes for sex, eye colour and known allergies, is ubiquitous in our society and it has yet to be expunged from our census forms.

The census of 2001 seemed to show that over 70 per cent of British people were Christian. This figure has been triumphantly and repeatedly invoked by politicians, prelates and apologists for religion, in apparently persuasive justification for a strong Christian presence in our governance and resource allocation. The census showed that we are still a Christian country, so it is claimed to be appropriate that all schoolchildren in England and Wales are required by law to take part in a "daily act of worship of a broadly Christian character"; right that 26 bishops should have seats reserved for them in parliament, where they influence political decisions in very Christian ways - on discriminatory faith schools, on abortion and on assisted suicide, for instance. Not just the unelected bishops: members of the Commons with an eye to re-election must heed the Christian voice and curry favour with the powerful Christian demographic. Seventy per cent of the population wants Christian policies, and 70 per cent cannot be gainsaid.

Many of us suspected that the vaunted 70 per cent hid an embarrassment of non-Christian, non-religious vaguery. "Well, our family has always been Christian and I was christened; I'm not a Jew or a Hindu and certainly not a Muslim, I love singing carols, Jesus was obviously a good person, just look at that gorgeous sunset, and there are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, so . . . yes, I'd better tick the Christian box."

Naturally people are free to call themselves whatever they like, and if you want to call yourself Christian even though you don't believe in God and have only the haziest idea of Christian teaching, that is none of my business. However, it very much is my business, and every other citizen's business, if the recorded demographic strength of Christianity in the country is falsely inflated by a very broad and loose definition of what it means to be Christian, and if that swollen figure is then hijacked and exploited by partisans of a much more narrowly defined Christianity.

If you ticked the Christian box because (like me) you are moved to tears by Schubert and the Milky Way, and therefore consider yourself a "spiritual" person, your "spirituality" should not be used to justify bishops in the Lords, or "All Things Bright and Beautiful" in schools. Ditto if you ticked the box because (again like me) you have a nostalgic affection for the Book of Common Prayer and King's College chapel.

It was for this reason, among others, that many of us campaigned to have the religion question omitted from the 2011 census. Unfortunately we failed. The Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science (UK) therefore fell back on plan B. This was to commission a large and comprehensive opinion poll, in the week immediately following last year's census, to find out exactly what people who ticked the Christian box believe, what lay behind their decision to accept the Christian label, and their attitudes to Christian-based legislation. Can politicians and others plausibly quote the percentage calling itself Christian as ammunition in arguments about religion in schools, homosexual rights, abortion and voting by the Lords Spiritual?

The survey was done by Ipsos MORI in accordance with its strict rules to ensure accuracy and impartiality, and on 14 February we published the results in the form of two press releases and a link to the underlying data (all of which is now on richarddawkins.net together with links to the extensive press coverage). The main conclusions are very much as we suspected. First, although the official census figures have not yet been published, our sample suggests that the percentage that describes itself as Christian has dropped from 72 to 54 (plus or minus 2 points).

That is a significant finding in its own right, but more telling is how small a proportion of even that 54 per cent believes in Christianity in any sense that could reasonably justify giving Christianity privileged influence in public life. In all that follows, it is important to remember (a retired bishop with whom I debated on television this past week got this wrong) that the percentages quoted are not percentages of the population at large, but percentages of the 54 per cent who self-identified as Christian. I will call them "Census Christians".

To pick out a handful of Ipsos MORI's findings, only a third of the Census Christians ticked the Christian box because of their religious beliefs. Not counting weddings, baptisms and funerals, half of them hadn't attended a church service at all in the previous year, 16 per cent hadn't attended in the past ten years, and a further 12 per cent had never done so. Only 44 per cent of Census Christians believe that Jesus is the Son of God. Only a third believe that He was physically resurrected.

Why then did they think of themselves as Christian? Ipsos MORI asked them: "Which of the following statements best describes what being a Christian means to you personally?" Favourite, with 40 per cent, was "I try to be a good person" (well, don't we all, but some of us good people are Muslims, some are Jews, some are Hindus and rather a lot are atheists). Second favourite, with 24 per cent, was "It's how I was brought up" (indeed - I, too, was brought up Christian and I was baptised and confirmed in the Church of England, so I guess that makes me a cultural Christian). Only 15 per cent of Census Christians selected "I have accepted Jesus as my Lord and Saviour" and 7 per cent chose "I believe in the teachings of Jesus" as the best description of what being a Christian meant to them personally.

“I try to be a good person" came top of the list of "what being a Christian means to you", but mark the sequel. When the Census Christians were asked explicitly, "When it comes to right and wrong, which of the following, if any, do you most look to for guidance?" only 10 per cent chose "Religious teachings and beliefs". Fifty-four per cent chose "My own inner moral sense" and a quarter chose "Parents, family or friends". Those would be my own top two and, I suspect, yours, too.

The bottom line is that anybody who advocates a strong place for religion in government cannot get away with claiming that ours is numerically a Christian country as a basis for giving religion privileged influence. This conclusion is further borne out by part two of our Ipsos MORI survey. Census Christians were asked explicitly about their attitudes to various social issues as well as their views on religion in public life. Seventy-four per cent of them said that religion should not have special influence on public policy. Only 12 per cent thought it should. Only 2 per cent disagreed with the statement that the law should apply to everyone equally regardless of their religious beliefs (so much for the Archbishop of Canterbury's opinion that sharia law in Britain is "unavoidable", and for attempts to exempt Christians from compliance with equalities legislation). More Census Christians oppose than support the idea of the UK having an official state religion, and the same applies to the presence of bishops in the House of Lords.

Less than a quarter of Census Christians think state schools should teach children a religious belief. Sixty-one per cent support equal rights for gay people and 59 per cent support assisted suicide for the terminally ill, given certain safeguards. And for those MPs worried about re-election and the need to appeal to the allegedly powerful Christian lobby, 78 per cent of Census Christians say that Christianity has no or not much influence on how they vote.

Now finally to my joke title. During one of the many broadcast discussions of our survey, I used a vignette to illustrate how poorly acquainted Census Chris­tians seem to be with their Bible. Ipsos MORI asked them to identify the first book of the New Testament from a four-way choice of Matthew, Genesis, Acts of the Apostles and Psalms, plus "Don't know" and "Prefer not to say". Only 35 per cent correctly chose Matthew; 39 per cent didn't even guess, and the rest chose various wrong answers.

This is a truly stunning result. It is as though 64 per cent of those who self-identify as devotees of English literature were unable to pick out the author of Hamlet from a four-way choice of Shakespeare, Tennyson, Chaucer and Homer. It's not that ignorance of the sequence of the arbitrarily assembled canon of biblical scrolls matters in itself. The point is that this is an indicator of how utterly out of touch with Christian culture modern British people are, even those who signed on as Christian in the census.

How would a Christian apologist deal with this devastating result? Dr Giles Fraser was in the radio discussion, and he dealt with it by going to extraordinary lengths to deflect attention in another direction altogether. He scored what he obviously thought was a "Gotcha!" point by asking me whether I knew the full title of Darwin's On the Origin of Species. He meant including the long, Victorian subtitle. I confidently said I knew it because, rather surprisingly, I do. But I then had one of those momentary lapses of memory that become increasingly common around my age. I stammered out an approximation, but was unable to recall the exact wording until I was cycling home and no longer under the pressure of speaking in a radio studio: "On the Origin of Species By Means of Natural Selection: or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life."

Canon Fraser (whom, incidentally, I greatly admire for his principled stand on the St Paul's tent protest) cannot seriously have thought the two cases were remotely comparable. The Census Christians were not asked to recite anything from memory, merely to pick out Matthew from a choice of four. Even if they had been asked to recite it, "Matthew" is just one word, while the full title of Darwin's great work has 21. The comparison is so inappropriate that, far from being a real gotcha, Fraser's diversionary tactic can only be seen as a measure of desperation, designed to conceal the embarrassing ignorance of their holy book shown by 64 per cent of Census Christians. In any case Darwin's Origin, I hope I don't have to add, is nobody's holy book.

The argument was the first in an astonishing series of diversionary moves in the national press this past week, some of them amounting to outright smear tactics. Perhaps the most absurd (of many) was the Sunday Telegraph hack who trumpeted a story that my remote ancestors had owned slaves in Jamaica. Well, that settles it: Dawkins is an atheist and his great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather owned slaves. Gotcha! Case closed.

I can quite understand why those whose aim is to protect at all costs the privileged status of Christianity in UK public life would want to deflect attention from the very significant findings of this important Ipsos MORI research. These are facts, not opinions, they aren't going to go away, and no amount of game-playing or smear tactics or irrelevant digression is going to change them.

In modern Britain, not even Christians put Christianity anywhere near the heart of their lives, and they don't want it put at the heart of public life either. David Cameron and Baroness Warsi, please take note.

101 comments

gmac's picture

fuck off malt, i must have missed this 'materialisation' revelation on the news. cretin

Philodoc's picture

Brilliant article; RD is required reading.

Malt's picture

@Livers, and for everyone else

If you had to buy a second-hand car instead of a spanking new one, it'd still get you from A-B. You'd have to test drive it and insure it and all that, it's performance may not be the best, but it's still doing the job. So with You-tube. Some of the video clips are a bit amateurish, and some are slicked up with a bit of background music, but they seem to be people's honest testimonies of their experiences. Try to understand that they have nothing to gain by recording this, except their desire to tell the world. Think of your worst or best experience, and how it might feel if you told people and they said, "Boring, sigh, walking away" or "I don't believe you!" Some of the more famous names are well recorded. If you don't want to watch, try reading up first. Your "sigh, walking away" is a like a bully saying "whateva!"or a child not wanting to hear why it can't have sweets just before dinner.
Here are some names to make you wonder what you have been missing, research them, if you dare to step out of your cosy cucoon for a few hours:

Edgar Cayce
Helen Duncan
Allan Kardec
Maurice Barbanell
Hannen Swaffer
Zerdini
Colin Fry
Arthur Findlay College, the centre of spiritual and psychic investigation and instruction Tel 01279 813636
Happy reading!

Malt's picture

Enter into the light, Keir, peace and love.

Hugh Markey's picture

All major Western religions, and their many offshoots, condoned slavery .
Islam was no different.
These religions spread as a result of colonialism and gave no quarter to their subject peoples.
White racists south of the Mason-Dixie line were probably the worst using a counterfeit religion to excuse their despicable philosophy.
Of course the Dutch Afrikaner ran them a close second.

Religious Apartheid

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MartinC's picture

Whilst the previous census implied a large majority declared they where Christian, Dawkins' poll shows this to have fallen (albeit whilst remaining significant), though many of these "census christians" as Dawkins' labels them, surely have a poor understanding/memory recall of their faith (we shan't dwell on the results of his memory being tested this week, it's too silly). Dawkins' conclusion is that the UK is not a practical Christian nation in other than name.

Another poll/study this week looked at the basic math skills of the UK population. This report, from the Royal Society of Arts (RSA), says maths education in England is not fit for purpose and is damaging competitiveness. It highlights that 49% of the UK working-age population do not have the numeracy levels expected from an 11-year-old.

What do these two studies show? Do they show that the UK is not a Christian Nation, or one that understands Maths (or both)? If we polled the population on aspects of Language and Arts, would we find a minority of the population could not name a contemporary artist or spell very well (even English, let alone a Foreign Language!). Unfortunately I think so. But would that show the UK does not have competence in Arts or Language?

What we should be taking on board is not "points being scored" by a shrill, angry anti-religionist, with his obsession as being the vanguard of the culture warrior cult he apparently heads, rather we need to get a grip with our basic education levels being deficient

Since statistics indicate religious schools do better at this than secular schools perhaps Dawkins' statistics indicate more children should be enrolled there (I am not being serious, but perhaps I am :P )

PS: The relevancy of pointing out skeletons in the ancestral cupboard of Dawkins is not to shame him, that again would be silly. It is to point out that positions taken historically change in time. We would not argue that Prof Dawkins is pro-slavery. We do not argue (or should not) that the historical positions of religions, that have now been dumped to the trashcan of history, should slur their moral teachings of today.

Each religion needs to be judged by the good it does today, understanding that not all has been good (a lot is clearly been bad), and thus reform is needed as per any historical organization, or family.

A little less shrill culture war militancy and a little more charity would be good for all.

Sources:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/mar/02/why-do-we-need-maths
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9694000/9694980.stm

Malt's picture

I've never read such drivel in all my life - well, actually, I have, as it matches all the lies and cover-ups down the millennia from Emperor Justinius, his whore wife and the Council of Trent. (go on, look it up). Jesus would not have considered himself as "the Christ" as this was the pagan name given for "the annointed one" to be sacrificed to their gods. So much of the New Testament was devised some three to six hundred years after Jesus' life on earth, so much tampering of the truth as to make the Bible unbelievable, apparently.
Not much has changed, still hearing people liking the sound of their own voices. If you want to start a start a spiritual revolution, which even the so called atheists seem determined to do, get yourselves out of the primeval soup and listen to "Silver Birch" on Youtube. (I challenge you!) You are a spirit encased within a physical body, whether you want to believe it or not!

Norman McFarlane's picture

@Malt Your closing sentence expresses a personal opinion, not a fact. And opinions are like assholes: everybody has one.

jankaas's picture

@Malt

"if you could repeat your message in plain English, perhaps everybody could understand what you are talking about."

again you project your own short comings onto the rest. but for you then, this is the condensed version; it takes a thief to catch a thief.

is that better?

jankaas's picture

@Merc

"I would invite all Atheists to join me in conversation when we are in the post-deceased environment of the Astral plane"

sorry, can't. just checked my atheist calendar and i appear to be busy post-deceased.

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