Why Richard Dawkins is the best argument for the existence of God
Russell Brand questions Richard Dawkins, explains Transcendental Meditation . . . and offers readers
By Russell Brand Published 07 April 2011
Russell Brand questions Richard Dawkins, explains Transcendental Meditation . . . and offers readers a touch of the divine.
I'm glad Jemima Khan asked me to contribute to this issue of the New Statesman as it (at last) gives me the opportunity to prove the existence of God. You may think me unqualified for a task that has baffled the finest theologians, philosophers and physicists since the dawn of time but don't worry, I've been unqualified for every job I've ever embarked on, from learning to drive to working as a postman for the Royal Mail, and both these quests were successfully completed, aside from a few broken wing mirrors and stolen letters. So, unlike the Christmas money of the residents of Ockendon, Essex, you're in good hands. Atheists are all about us, sermonising from the godless pulpit on the benefits of their anti-faith with some pretty good arguments like, oh I dunno, "evolution" and oddly, I think, given the stated nature of their motives, being incredibly reductive in their line and manipulative in their targets.
Zero fun and too much mental
I once had the pleasure of talking to the brilliant Richard Dawkins, who has been called the "Abu Hamza of atheism". (It was me who called him it, just then.) In his remarkable documentary The Genius of Charles Darwin the professor excellently relayed the information within his hero's On the Origin of Species, gave us some key information from his own masterpiece The Selfish Gene (which I only read because I took it to be an unsanctioned biography of the Kiss bassist Gene Simmons) and set about unravelling religion and spirituality with the adorable fervour of the Andrex puppy making off with some scriptural lavvy paper. Choice among Dawkins's targets were the kind of daft 'apeths we're accustomed to tolerating on our telly; low-browed creationists gurgling up Genesis like (forbidden) apple chutney and knee-jerk fundamentalists, who are always zero fun and far too much mental.
Who could fail to concur with Dawkins's erudite dismissal of these hapless saps? No one. I have Dawkins to thank for my own understanding of the fantastic discovery that is evolution; his passion and expertise in this documentary hugely enhanced my knowledge and illuminated what for many spiritual people can be a difficult subject.
It is only in his absolute renunciation of God that the professor and I part company and, heaven knows, I'd understand if you wanted to join his party. In almost any expedition in which the rival guides were myself and Richard Dawkins, I wouldn't be surprised to find myself pulverised by the converted horde stampeding towards the professor.
However, it's not just swivel-eyed haters and mad mullahs who live a religious life, and to condemn all religion and spirituality on the basis of their slack-jawed, knee-jerk saliva-flecked vitriol (spit-triol?) is as unfair as the simplified dogma that the choir of pious atheists harmonise against. Gandhi, as I recall, was quite a religious man.
St Francis of Assisi was a straight-up believer. And while the tenets of Buddhism are varied on the notion of God, the creator, I think it would be fair to describe the Dalai Lama as a spiritual chap. I don't see atheists queuing up to call the Dalai Lama a dickhead. These are the examples to which we should turn when questioning the existence of a power beyond man. Not Glenn Beck or some other capillary blob on Fox News.
Dawkins, the patron saint of atheists, would say that all religions are simply wrong - a baffled blanket of cosy lies to warm dopes into snug compliance; unproven ideologies based on faith. I think God exists beyond the current reach of science, that one day our fast-evolving minds will know God empirically as they do now only intuitively. That the mystical will become physical.
Galileo Galilei, the man credited with being the first to point a telescope skyward (all previous users had presumably been Renaissance peeping Toms), speculated that heliocentrism was viable: that the earth likely circled the sun. He was imprisoned for this observation, which, viewed retrospectively (through my invention, the retro-speculars), seems unfair. He was, after all, correct. Evidently the persecution of scientists by religion has irked the members of that community but I think that the theoretical annihilation of God is a reprisal too far.
We must, on both sides of the debate, show compassion. I for example have overlooked the bald fact that Galileo's parents gave him a bloody stupid first name considering their surname was Galilei. Galileo Galilei. He would have gone through hell at my school, not for being a heliocentric heretic but for being a ridiculously titled child. We already had another lad in my year called David Dave (honestly) so his problem wouldn't have even been original.
Religion has rightly been cited as the cause of much suffering and conflict, way beyond what ol' star-gazing "two names" went through with his prison stretch and forced retraction. Plus the Pope (I think it was Pope Benedict Benedicto) recently pardoned GG, so let it go.
A croissant conflict
It has been said that "man is never more vehement in killing his brother than when it is in God's name"; perhaps that's true, but we humans can seek out conflict in any situation. My last serious argument was about a croissant. It had been placed in the fridge beneath a meat product and could have been contaminated by dripping. If I'd had a sword on me I would have happily carried out a jihad in the kitchen and I'm a vegetarian. It is our nature to quarrel and fight just as it is to inquire and to empathise.
Frankly I think atheism is a commodity we cannot currently afford. "No atheists on a sinking ship," they say, and a quick glance out the porthole reveals icebergs aplenty, but I'm not suggesting God as some demented alternative to desperation - no, this is a phenomenon that touches my life every day.
Through Transcendental Meditation, twice daily I feel the bliss of the divine. Through the mental repetition of a mantra, eventually my chattering monkey mind recedes, gently banishing concerns of the past and drawing the inner eye away from speculation and want. I connect to a boundless consciousness that has no palpable relationship with my thoughts, fears or desires. In this impersonal state of awareness.
I recognise that consciousness exists beyond time, beyond the individual. There was a time when the universe did not exist, this we know. We also know that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed. This means that something, not nothing, existed before the universe. We do not know what but there is wonder and intelligence enough to suggest that design may have been a component.
Could a witless miasma of molecules and dust ever have created anything as ingenious and incredible as Richard Dawkins? I don't think so, but I'm prepared to listen and tolerate any theories and arguments, a concerto of contemplation, a requiem of speculation, to divert us till we know the truth.
“Arthur", with Russell Brand and Helen Mirren, is released on 22 April
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235 comments
"I know Richard Dawkins is millionaire thanks to his coffee table books, but what excuse do his rabid, uncritical disciples have? Is it just bored middle-classes for whom real philosophy is too hard?"
Very well put. Best comment I've ever heard on the subject.
"If your belief system is so fragile it can be challenged by Russell Brand, then maybe its time to ditch the crutch?"
This is frankly a stupid argument for giving up Atheism. What makes Russell Brand so special? I would gladly allow my beliefs to be challenged by anyone, because unlike Theists I am not offended by it. But it doesn't mean I will wholly give up Atheism just because someone challenged it. If he had evidence that God exists I will gladly give up Atheism on the spot right now.
"I just don't see the difference between rabid atheist fundamentalist and their theistic counterparts. Probably because there is very little difference"
I will tell you the difference. There are radical fundamentalist theists out there (to use your description) that believe so vehemently in their religion and their scriptures that they think it is right to bring harm or even kill other people. This is wrong. This is wrong to anyone you ask because we have a modern, developed moralistic thought process, which doesn't reside from religion at all. There is not one instance in history of a person harming or killing another person because they were wholly motivated by Atheism. Not one. The same can definitely not be said about religion.
Spot on.
Well there are a lot of pretty predictable responses to this article aren't there. 'Weak', people call it. Well, first - why weak? Nobody offers a criticism, just says...'weak'. With the lack of expansion, the assumption has to be made that the article is classed as 'weak' simply because the reader disagrees. A 'weak' reason, if I may make so bold. Plus, unless you hadn't noticed Russell Brand is a comedian, not a professional commentator. You can't expect the polished style and nuance from him that you'd get from a professional. And taking exception to the Abu Hamza gag. It's Russell Brand, for Pete's sake: again, what did you expect? We are told that Dawkins is a lovely chap, well, how do you know Abu Hamza wouldn't be if you met him? And then there's this mildly amusing anti-religion tirade saying 'all things are guided by natural laws' and then saying 'the universe is chaotic'. I won't go so far as to say that you can't have both - because you can - but the philosophy is completely cockeyed. God is irrelevant because all things are mapped out by nature but then also the universe is chaotic. Right. And the argument that the universe is violent is cobblers. The universe is what the universe is, and most of it is wonderful. Most people live, on the whole, happy and worthwhile lives, we don't know what wonders may be on the other planets, and thinking that the lot of humanity is just to suffer and perish (damn you, God that doesn't exist) is just self-indulgent lazy meaningless demonstrably false emo claptrap. Good night, New Statesman website. I feel much better for getting that lot out. PS. I think transcendental meditation is cobblers too but I enjoyed the article as a change from the norm.
Daniele: I'm trying to start a new 'Thing' up. One thing about atheists that worries me is the difficulty that you have with the rest of US, millions of people who 'believe' in God. But that doesn't mean I'm not one of you, it does, for apart from being a Muslim, a Mormon and a Hindu, I am also an Atheist.
So I'm trying to start a new thing that incorporates You into this whole thought of our existence. Why not be part of the ultimate whole?
You 'say' that the ultimate goal has to be Peace. This makes you a member. There is nothing else about this 'religion' or 'organistation'. You signify your membership by tk at the end of some of your comments. If you forget tk don't worry.
Daniele: where are you living?
If I may speak a riddle: Both the atheists and the theists miss the point. The point is not the existence of God, but the reality of God. The existence of God out there is a chimera. Here, theists wrong, atheists right. The reality of God is within us. Here atheists wrong, theists right. But neither party know where they are wrong and where they are right.
You certainly have a way with words Mr Brand, however unfortunately that is were your contribution to this debate ends. I find it morally irresponsible of you to compare Richard Dawkins (a good man regardless of his beliefs) with someone who preaches hate and is considered an extremely bad man. You shoud have chosen your words more carefully. But, of course you were writing for the jokes, which was certainly proven to be a hopeless endeavour in this article.
I predicted that this article would be inundated with comments from insecure internet atheists, and I was right. Has it got onto the Daily Mail's 'best of the web' yet?
If your belief-system is so fragile it can be challenged by Russell Brand, then maybe it's time to ditch the crutch? Or maybe just tweet Stephen Fry for some reassurance!
And no, I'm not religious and I have read the canon of contemporary commercial atheism.I just don't see the difference between a rabid atheist fundamentalist and their theistic counterparts. Probably because there is very little difference
Richard dawkins ki maa ki choot
kisay anni gashti da bacha
bund mua bhanchod
ap sab atheists ki ma ko mera lamba lun
thank you :)
Does this fellow not listen to the scientists?
There is no god!