The NS Profile: Sam Harris

Sam Harris, one of the “Four Horsemen” of new atheism, believes that science can never be reconciled

Sam Harris, the American writer, neuroscientist and leading proponent of the new atheism, rarely invites indifference. The novelist Marilynne Robinson wrote recently that his "aspirations . . . contain much that is not laudable". The writer and commentator Andrew Sullivan once accused Harris of a "form of intolerance that reminds me of some of the worst aspects of fundamentalism". The columnist Theodore Dalrymple said of a passage from Harris's first book, The End of Faith, that it was "quite possibly the most disgraceful that I have read in a book by a man posing as a rationalist".

His supporters are no less voluble. The jacket of his latest book, The Moral Landscape: How Science Can Determine Human Values, carries gushing testimonials from Ian McEwan ("Reason has never had a more passionate advocate") and Richard Dawkins ("As for religion, and the preposterous idea that we need God to be good, nobody wields a sharper bayonet").

When I meet Harris - a dapper man of 43 who bears a decided resemblance to the actor Ben Stiller - at the office of his English publishers in London, the bayonet is out more or less straight away, even though he is suffering from jet lag after a flight from New York.

A few days before our meeting, the news had broken of the award to Sir Martin Rees, Astronomer Royal and former president of the Royal Society, of the £1m Templeton Prize. The prize, given annually by the John Templeton Foundation, rewards individuals who have made "exceptional contributions to affirming life's spiritual dimension" - or, as Harris puts it in The Moral Landscape, "split[ting] the difference between intellectual integrity and the fantasies of a prior age".

“Rees looks like a cagey and successful choice from the Templeton Foundation's point of view," Harris tells me. "He's certainly not who you'd expect to be shilling for the cause. He is on the record as being a non-believer, but is too politic for his own good, or for our common good. He thinks science shouldn't be in the business of criticising religion, and that scientists can do their job perfectly happily without ever engaging in a contest with religion - but I think that's fundamentally untrue."

Zero-sum game

That "religion and science are in a zero-sum conflict with respect to facts" is one of the central contentions of The End of Faith, the book with which Harris, then aged 36, made his name when it was first published in 2004. He was followed into print in 2006 by the philosopher Daniel Dennett (with Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon) and by Dawkins, who argued in his bestseller The God Delusion that religion is the enemy of science. Dawkins, like Harris, meant all religion - not just the fundamentalist, apocalyptic varieties whose adherents are indifferent to the fate of this world because they await imminent transposition to another.Dawkins, Dennett and Harris later made common cause with Christopher Hitchens, whose polemic God Is Not Great was published in 2007. That year, the quartet convened at Hitchens's apartment in Washington, DC for a discussion, conducted over cocktails, that was filmed and subsequently released as a DVD under the title The Four Horsemen.

As Harris observes in The Moral Landscape, somewhat ruefully, there is now a "large and growing literature" attacking "the so-called New Atheists" (a term coined in 2006 by Gary Wolf in an article for Wired magazine).

“It is often said that we caricature religion," he writes. "We do no such thing. We simply . . . take the specific claims of religion seriously." What Harris means is that the New Atheists treat religion - of the kind espoused by the mildest Anglican as much as the ravings of the most incendiary Islamist - as consisting of a set of purportedly factual claims about the nature of reality, the origins of the universe and so on, to which believers assent as they would to an ordinary empirical proposition about the weather or the colour of my trousers. If that is what religion is, then it conflicts with science by definition.

When I try to suggest that there might be more to religious faith than this description allows, Harris is emphatic. "Look at the New Testament," he says. "It makes a variety of claims that are by definition at odds with what we know to be scientifically plausible."

Yet there are many eminent scientists who also happen to be religious believers - John Polkinghorne, for instance, the mathematical physicist and Anglican priest who won the Templeton Prize in 2002, or Francis Collins, formerly director of the National Centre for Human Genome Research in the United States, who was appointed director of the National Institutes of Health by President Obama in 2009. Why, if atheism is the world-view that best accords with the scientific evidence, do so many intelligent people persist in faith?

For Harris, this can be explained only as a "failure of intellectual honesty". He is parti­cularly scathing about Collins. "There's something repugnant about the fact that he [is a believer] and one of the most prominent and influential representatives of science in the United States," he says. "And he's not some weak-tea Christian - he thinks the dead will walk again and will be remade out of new matter. And not only that, he doesn't keep those crazy convictions private. He publishes on the mutually reinforcing character of those two world-views [science and religion]."

However, it is not Christians such as Collins who are the most vociferous critics of Harris and the other New Atheists. The most powerful assaults have come from fellow atheists and secularists. Take the literary critic James Wood, who was brought up in an evangelical Christian household but is now an atheist. Wood has written of the "parochialism" of new atheism. Religion, for Harris and the others, he argues, "seems to mean either fundamentalist Islam or American evangelical Christianity". More "relaxed or progressive" forms of Christianity tend not to register - nor do Hinduism or Buddhism, both of which Harris flirted with in his early twenties after dropping out of an English degree at Stanford University, or Judaism, the faith into which he was born.

Harris swats away the criticism when I put it to him. "If you want to take that tack, at least do me the courtesy of acknowledging that at least 50 per cent of the American population is fundamentalist. This is not a fringe problem. And in the Muslim world it's the same.

“But if you want to talk about some far more relaxed, noncommittal, non-dogmatic form of Christianity or Islam, then let's talk about what it's committed to, because it's committed to some propositional claims. If it's committed to none, then we're just talking about someone who happens to like the Bible as literature, or who happens to like going to St Paul's because he likes the architecture." The problem with this response is that it does not address whether there is more to religion than beliefs about the world. The philosopher Philip Kitcher, an avowed secularist, thinks Harris is attached to something he calls the "belief model of religion", which he finds wanting.

“Besides beliefs," Kitcher wrote in a paper on "militant modern atheism" published last October, "there are emotions, aspirations, desires and actions . . . Those who merely believe, if there are any such people, are not full participants in the religious life." In other words, living in a moral community in which one engages in shared practices is as important to the religious person as believing in a set of dogmas about the metaphysics of transcendent entities.

Beyond belief

Harris does not dispute that religious concepts articulate a moral vision as well as purport to describe the world. But he wishes that scientists wouldn't leave morality to those of faith, and The Moral Landscape is devoted to explaining why they need not do so. "Secular scientists very commonly think that science has nothing to say about morality and human value, and so it's not science's job to tell people what constitutes a good life," he argues.

In the new book, Harris tries to give a scientific answer to the question of atheist morality. "Questions about values", he writes, "are really questions about the well-being of conscious creatures" - and well-being is something that is measurable, scientifically verifiable. The "science of human flourishing" that he lays out in the book is an updated version of utilitarianism, in which well-being replaces pleasure as the source of moral value. Crudely put, in the view that Harris defends, an action is right to the extent that it promotes well-being.

Judging the rightness of an action by its consequences in this way seems to lead Harris, however, to countenance practices that most of us would regard as morally repugnant - such as torture. His arguments about this in The End of Faith caused such controversy that he now maintains a page on his website devoted to the topic. He describes his position thus: "collateral damage is worse than torture across the board". If we bomb civilians, then why are we squeamish about waterboarding?

His opinions are shaped by what seems to him the biggest threat to western civilisation today: radical Islam. The irony is that, in this struggle, he finds himself on the same side as the Christian right. "It's inconvenient, certainly," Harris says laconically. "When I talk to Christians about Islam, they're running the same software. They know how it feels to be sure that the Book is the word of the Creator."

Jonathan Derbyshire is culture editor of the New Statesman

179 comments

Blaine McCartney's picture

@Justice: I fail to see how a long-dead Jewish preacher could love me. Replace the word "Christ" with "Zeus" and you'll have a better idea of how rational that claim is. "Sin", in its original Greek meaning, simply means "a failure to meet a standard". The onus/responsibility is on us to improve ourselves, eradicate our own sins (again, keeping the original meaning in mind) and make ourselves better in consequence. Dumping our sins onto aforementioned long-dead Jewish preacher solves nothing, and achieves only false absolution/consolation.

Simon Barber's picture

@ muchadoaboutstupid

I'm not a religious and don't go to church. I don't need the crutch of atheism/theism to get by in this wonderful world of mystery and awe. But well done for playing up to the stereotype of the smug, presumptuous atheist and telling me what I do with my spare time!

You'll be telling me what I had for breakfast next. Or are you waiting for someone to write a short book telling you what to believe I had for breakfast so you can take to the internet and argue about what you think I had for breakfast?

This is why I'd much rather go for a pint with a priest or rabbi than an internet atheist. I don't believe in God, but I think people like you should 'find' him, if only to make you less uptight.

Keir's picture

'I was not Catholic'

But you are now, like most 'atheists', because your pope is some slender hope of a means to control Christians.

'How do you know that?'

Because if Baal had made people better, there would be a Baalist pope to stop that sort of thing. But I reckon you can stick with Mary and His Holiness, Baal being a pretty outdated sort of stick.

Balance's picture

That which can be destroyed by the truth should be. And many of the untruths originating from our primitive history had to be destroyed, so that now we can live in a moderately civilized (though by no means perfect) society with all the blessings of modern technology. Knowledge about reality is paramount for societies and those without it are doomed in the long run.

There is only one reality and it is not up for grabs by multiple opinions. One is either in step with reality or out of step with it. People try to be agreeable and take pains in order to avoid treading on each other's territory by pretending that all opinions are equal. Problem is, they sure as hell aren't since opinions are always - in one way or another - claims about reality, which is why opinions can be wrong and why we can't simply agree to disagree.

Every bit of evidence we have about this world and this reality points to the conclusion, that every single religion is untrue to its rotten core and that believers happen to be grossly out of step with reality to the point where it would be fair to say that they are deluded.

The "New Atheists" are simply a group of people who don't honor the silent agreement of our western society, that "every opinion is equal". There are right and wrong answers to the question of how reality is and we've had it with people's religiously inspired irrationality eating away at the core of our so-called "enlightened" civilization.

It's a confrontational attitude to be sure and many atheists are genuinely angry for legitimate reasons. The Scientology-belief that Space-Overlord Xenu trapped souls inside a Volcano a trillion years ago (a timespan that doesn't even exist) is batshit crazy and Jesus walking on water is not even one bloddy iota less ridiculous. We can't allow such irrational people, who are clearly out of touch with reality, to run our society. But the solution for superstition isn't prosletyzing atheism (which is ridiculous and almost as bad as any indoctrination), but early and in-depth teaching of rationality. A skill that is ultimately just like math or grammer, but one that is unfortunately not taught in schools.

Atheism is simply one result of correct Bayesian rationality. And if there was a god, and if there actually were good reasons to believe that, then correct application of rationality would lead to that conclusion.

Rationality and empathy are the keys to the advancement of civilization. Atheism simply happens to be one fact about our reality that more people would be able to grasp if they were taught proper reasoning.

RFM's picture

I believe it was Socrates who asked whether god chose that which was good because it was good, or that good is simply what god chose good to be. If it is the former, then god is not the final authority on what is good, and good exists independently of god. If it is the latter, then what is good is entirely arbitrary and not derived from a consistent source.

Please note that in the Old Testament, god has different laws for Israelites and for non-Israelites. Prositution being a sin, but not when it is done for the advancement of some Israelite cause. Job's family died so that god could settle a bet with the devil. That defies consistency. Noah's flood, at one point tolerable for god, at the next not. It would be consistent if god had left it at that, but what about Hurricane Katrina ... according to some in the Catholic church, it is punishment for New Orleans' tolerance of permissive sexual attitudes. Others saw punishment for the Gulf Casino Industry ... and finally, a not insignificant Rabbi in Israel claiming that Katrina was punishment for George Bush's support for Israel's disengagement from Gaza.

Oh, and if anyone thinks that god is so morally magnanimous that he won't punish other people for the sins of someone completely different, please read the story in the Bible about David's census. Also observe in that story how the brave David opted to have god's angel of death first slay the Israelites for David's sins.

You may have your different religions, and your faiths, and your reasonable preachers along with the crazy ones, god may not even be a delusion, I am happy for you to hate me because I don't believe in your god, but to claim that god, based on the Bible, is a source of consistent morality is beyond ludicrous.

Keir's picture

'One thing that I would desparately like for opponents of the atheist view on religion to come to terms with is that in science, there are different views on single phenomena, different explanations if you like.'

As already stated, Christians (as distinct from fundamentalists, who oppose Christianity) do not care what scientific theory of creation exists. The Bible does not care, the gospel of Christ does not care. There have been the most ludicrous attempts to reconcile what people think the Bible says with science. But no reconciliation is even possible, because the Bible's two separate creation myths are allegories- and contradict each other if taken literally! Even in English. Read in Hebrew, they make much compelling allegorical sense.

This debate only serves to point up the crass idiocy of the human race. Why the hell a deity would bother with such fools, god only knows.

Unless, of course, this idiocy is all put on, because the fear of what the Bible actually says is too much for timid little mice to contemplate.

Gregor's picture

I'm a (lowly) scientist and can I please appeal to those of you who aren't scientifically literate to stop using terms like 'rational' and 'reality' without knowing what they mean. Have your adolescent debates if you must, but stop fetishising science and appropriating scientific terms for your arguments and beliefs. You make life very difficult for us educators. Until science is in a position to prove or disprove the idea of a creator, it really shouldn't be applied to the meta-question of God.

If someone tells you that the earth is 6,000 years old then by all means, use and apply science. But don't blindly and blithely refer to science because you think it helps you beat someone in an argument who, for whatever reason, has hurt your feelings or offended your beliefs

Keir's picture

'That is what the story says, no?'

So was there really a flood, poster? If one is to be consistent, it would have had to have taken place around 2350 BC, and to have included torrents of magma at 1000 deg. C. Followed by several Ice Ages. All in time for the pyramids and Scottish settlements to be built soon after.

Let us know, fundie.

Keir's picture

Now follow the people who pretend not have read the thread, bearing bigotry.

Democracy has its price.

RFM's picture

Keir, where do you get your information about the Bible from? The two creation myths are different genres, as different genres of creation they cannot contradict each other because they are not dealing with the same issues. Honestly, I hate to tell you this, but I read the Bible in hebrew, and I study the contexts of their meaning, your assertions about the Bible are more often than not totally wrong.

You also miss the point of my post, you think it was about creationism and evolution, it was not. It was about the failure on the part of people who oppose the atheist perspective on religion to fully appreciate what it means when one engages religion in a scientific (or in my case, historical) perspective. But it would serve your purpose to ignore that point because it enables you to carry on talking as if the Biblical content has one explanation only and that is the explanation of religious truth. If you had ever properly read the BIble, which you increasingly appear not to have done, you would have noticed that the Bible says a lot of things which are patently not true about its own origins. Yet, you must ignore those difficulties because once you take them into consideration, what the Bible actually is starts to speak louder than what the Bible says. And that is not in the interest of atheism opponents, which leaves you standing solidly in opposition to the historical pursuit of what the Bible actually is, and will always be despite your denials of it.

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