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Age of Homo religiosus

Sholto Byrnes

Published 03 September 2009

Our annual God issue is always a bestseller, yet there are many NS readers who think we should have nothing to do with religion. Why?

Tolerance is a characteristic on which the British used to pride themselves. But the ever more frequent discussion of religion, and how it relates to science and to our much cherished pluralism, is increasingly marked by an absence of that quality. Indeed, debate in this area reminds me of a tradition at my old school called "the house shout", in which the members of two houses would bellow "Up School House" and "Up the Grange" at each other from two sides of a quad, victory being awarded to whichever was judged the more vocal. The contest did provide a certain brute physical exhilaration, but ultimately proved no important point. It was not a conversation. There was no exchange of ideas or attempt to persuade.

Today, we hear far too much aggressive assertion that serves only to increase intolerance and suspicion. It may have been a thoughtless slip, but too often we hear careless generalisations such as the novelist Sebastian Faulks's recent dismissal of the Quran as "the rantings of a schizophrenic". We are familiar with the opinions and sometimes actions of religious fundamentalists in this country - it is less than a year since the home of the publisher Martin Rynja was firebombed because his firm was due to print a novel about the Prophet Muhammad's bride Aisha. But in their words, many of those who seek to defend reason show themselves to be equally unreasonable and inflexible in their views. A gentle and accommodating agnosticism has given way to an angry and insistent atheism that sees offence as the best way to defend rationalism and science.

Going on past correspondences, the sympathies of most New Statesman readers are with the "God-free". There seems to be a widespread feeling that a magazine of the left should not only display a preference for secularism but for atheism, too: that we should take our editorial line from Richard Dawkins and agree with him that religion is, at best, as silly as believing in fairies at the bottom of the garden but is, more generally, "dangerous nonsense" that devalues human life.

But this ignores the deep association in this country between religion and radicalism. The right may see the parable of the talents as a justification for wealth creation, and Margaret Thatcher once pointed out that the Good Samaritan was only in a position to help because he had money; but others have long looked to the man who washed the feet of his disciples and who consorted with outcasts, and have drawn very different conclusions. British socialism, said Harold Wilson, owed more to Methodism than to Karl Marx, while Keir Hardie was even more explicit: "I have said, both in writing and from the platform many times, that the impetus which drove me first into the Labour movement, and the inspiration which has carried me on in it, has been derived more from the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth than from all other sources combined," he wrote in 1910.

Radical predecessors such as the Levellers and the Diggers would have agreed. And the Lollard John Ball's thrilling rebuke to the iniquity of entrenched privilege would be nothing without its biblical reference. "When Adam delved and Eve span," he asked in a sermon during the Peasants' Revolt in 1381, "who was then the gentleman?"

Just as pertinently, to refuse to engage with faith would be to close one's eyes to the reality of belief, both here, where in the last census nearly 80 per cent of the population agreed they had a religious affiliation, and abroad. The Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim, admired by thinkers and leaders from Amartya Sen to Al Gore, once commented that Asian man is "Homo religiosus", but the term could be applied much more widely. At a time when the convictions of billions do so much to shape our geopolitics, is it really wise to discount them as misguided delusions?

Much of the current noisy argument comes down to the status of knowledge, and specifically what is commonly deemed as the unbridgeable gulf between "revealed" knowledge and that of science - which Dawkins's ally Daniel Dennett once told me was the "only game in town" when it came to "facts, and the explanation of facts".

But this is an overly narrow view. Religion consists of far more than "revealed" truths, which are, in any case, obviously of a different kind from those derived from theoretical and empirical study. More importantly, this is to claim far too much for that corpus of conjecture we call human knowledge. As a student, I read David Hume's argument that although we may believe the sun will rise tomorrow, we cannot know it. For me, it was as profound and as revelatory as any religious experience, and as convincing as any scientific proof. And I hope that his words will inform the blog on religion, reason, belief and unbelief that I am about to start on Newstatesman.com: "Where men are the most sure and arrogant, they are commonly the most mistaken."

All will be welcome to the blog, those who wish to shout as well as those who wish to converse, religious believers and atheists alike. But it is my conviction that the discussions (in which I hope readers will join me) will develop into debates about matters of belief, whether they be over evolutionary theory, the validity of literal readings of sacred texts, or the boundaries between the religious and the secular. For how many of us can truly gainsay the wisdom of Socrates: "All I know is that I know nothing"?

Sholto Byrnes begins his new God Blog on Monday: www.newstatesman.com/blogs

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24 comments from readers

Simon_Gardner
03 September 2009 at 10:37

Yeah right. But the god thing - it’s complete bollocks. You can’t get away from the fact that it’s complete

bollocks. You can whitter on as you will and there remains the inescapable basic root of the matter that it’s complete bollocks.

So you really are rather wasting your time (and everyone else’s).

Arthur
03 September 2009 at 12:32

Two things.

First, as an evolutionary biologist, Dawkins didn't pick this fight. He entered the fray after decades of

pernicious attacks on perhaps our most brilliant idea, evolution, by religious groups with no interest in the truth.

Second, the life sciences are all about searching for the truth. Not "revealed truths" of religious doctrine - but the actual truth. Science is the best method way to seek this. The luxuries of health, lifestyle, understanding and knowledge we enjoy today are testament to that.

No matter how you wish to frame this, what you are proposing is a retreat into superstition. To quote the

great Carl Sagan, "The candle flame gutters. Its little pool of light trembles. Darkness gathers. The demons

begin to stir." [Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science As a Candle in the Dark]

Martin_H
03 September 2009 at 13:04

This is just bonkers. Your analysis of the situation would suggest that Christianity has failed. For all of its state-supported indoctrination over the past 400 years (I presume we're talking CofE, not Minoans 1700BC) you are now saying we have reached an unacceptable level of intolerance. Do you think we need more of the same stuff to fix it?

And now you are saying that New Statesman readers should want to read about religion as a sort of payment of debt for earlier accomplishments. In that case we should for coal mining techniques and steel production too. Judging by the more recent episodes in religious/social, religious/scientific and religious/legal affairs I am more inclined to think of religion as a millstone.

As for atheism it is quite simple. We do not accept any religion's claims that gods exist. We accept that people think they exist and accept that things are done by people because of it. Your article carefully avoids (as do practically all modern religious apologists) the absurd idea of a god but then tries to heap profound significance on religion as if one existed. Well, gods are bollocks (thanks Simon_Gardner) and religion is no more socially significant than the local Sub-Aqua Club.

gcdavis
03 September 2009 at 14:30

As Simon_Gardner so eloquently put it religion is bollocks. To believe in any god requires of form of self

delusion that deserves at best ridicule, at worst contempt.

terence patrick hewett
03 September 2009 at 16:36

One may postulate that at the first instant of the creation of the Cosmos, that all things possible were implicit in the variables of the Laws of Physics. However we haven’t quite worked out what those laws are: Quantum Mechanics does not equate with Classical Mechanics which in turn does not equate with Relativity. Whether Darwin was right or wrong doesn’t enter into the argument of whether there is a God or not. The people that say they have the answer to this question are divided into two categories 1, the Deists and 2, the Atheists.

They both display what is called "Faith". They have Faith because neither of them can prove it one way or the other. The bad news is that the answer is not likely to come soon. So my message to all you Atheists and Religious out there,intent on scratching each others eyes out: try and display a little more tolerance and understanding towards your fellow man. The world would be such a nicer place.

friendlyneighbourhoodhumanist
03 September 2009 at 17:30

Religion, be it bollocks or not, is still a part of society. Telling people that what they believe is rubbish will not stop them believing it, and nor will it endear alternatives to those who are maybe a bit fed-up with the spoon-fed morality the church provides. It seems that the loudest voices are, for the large part, the most bullying.

In my opinion, there needs to be real alternative to a religious life. It's all very well extolling the virtues of logic and reason over superstition, but they are cold bedfellows at best when people don't know how to use them. Concepts such as death can be dealt with by invoking the will of deities, afterlifes, etc. but, without this crutch to lean on, it would probably seem difficult to cope.

Humanism gives an alternative by helping one to recognise the transience of human life, thereby allowing the death of a loved one to help appreciate ones own life even more. Likewise, when it comes to morality, the non-believer has a more immediately difficult, but ultimately more rewarding, time than the believer. With their hand-me-down values, the religious adherent need not worry themselves with tricky moral problems (that's what the holy books are for) whereas the atheist, through thorough contemplation of the situation at hand, may well have a few restless nights but will eventually arrive at a solution they can justify. It is my opinion that such examples are all too often glossed over in these sort of discussions (or, as they all too often turn out, slanging matches).

Potentially the biggest problem to those seeking a secular state, however, is the idea of religion providing a community. There is no obvious alternative within humanism to such mass events as daily/weekly worship. Perhaps something along the lines of the Greek marketplace discussions or Parisian cafes is needed to promote debate and a sense of community, I don't know. But blogs are a good way to start...

Skeptici
03 September 2009 at 18:30

"Tolerance is a characteristic on which the British used to pride themselves."

Yeah, right! That's why our British history is full of conflict between Catholics and Protestants. Of course, we "tolerant" Brits also imprisoned and fined non-believers and homosexuals - or anyone else who upset the delicate unreasoned senses of the "tolerant" religious.

Over the last century, it has been apathy towards religion that helped create an air of tolerance in this country. Unfortunately, religion has once again upped the ante. In recent years, the bulldogs of religion have been attempting to push creationism/ID in schools; and, as always, they continue to dehumanise non-believers, homosexuals and women - or anyone else who doesn't submit to their intolerant dogma.

"Today, we hear far too much aggressive assertion that serves only to increase intolerance and suspicion. It may have been a thoughtless slip, but too often we hear careless generalisations such as the novelist Sebastian Faulks's recent dismissal of the Quran as "the rantings of a schizophrenic"."

I don't know about the Quran being the rantings of a schizophrenic, but I do know that both the Quran and the Bible contain texts that serve to dehumanise others - especially those who don't believe. Of course, if you're not Christian, you're the anti-Christ - therefore the embodiment of evil. If you're not for Allah and his prophet, once again, you're the embodiment of evil. These books not only increase intolerance and suspicion, they perpetuate it. Ultimately, the outcome can only be detrimental to the stability of any civilized society.

If it wasn't for the insistent "angry" atheists, agnostics, deists - and the religious non-conformists - of yesterday, your article wouldn't be in print. Rationalism, reason and science would be hung from the gallows.

amberjack
03 September 2009 at 21:43

"As a student, I read David Hume's argument that although we may believe the sun will rise tomorrow, we cannot know it. For me, it was as profound and as revelatory as any religious experience, and as convincing as any scientific proof."

Although we cannot know, with absolute certainty, that the sun will rise tomorrow, we can reasonably assume it will, based on the available evidence. The evidence in favour of its rising massively exceeds that in favour of its not rising, which would, in any case largely be the result of speculation rather than known facts.

The evidence for and against the existence of gods, given the assertions the religious make about them, is likewise imbalanced: there is abundant evidence against, and no credible evidence in favour. So although we cannot be absolutely certain that a being we would consider to be a god does not exist somewhere in universe, we can safely go about our business in the reasonable certainty that it does not.

On the other hand, those who assert that there is such a being, which takes an active (though to all intents and purposes imaginary) role in human affairs, often go about their business much to the detriment of themselves and their fellow humans.

On the whole, it would seem that the reality-based community occupy the higher ground...

Arthur
03 September 2009 at 23:56

People love to split this debate into two equal sides. Equating atheists with religious fundamentalists. This is disingenuous.

The bottom line is, that as far as I know, these "angry / strident / militant" New Atheists are not planning to fly planes into buildings in some deluded suicide pact.

The "angry / strident / militant" New Atheists are not oppressing women, not insisting on circumcision for

12 year olds, not turning society by into warring factions based on faith, not threatening children with hell and damnation, not threatening authors with death threats for "blasphemy", not advising against condoms in Africa, not advocating oppression of homosexuality, etc etc.

Two equal sides? Nonsense. There are people who respect reason, freedom of thought, and a reasonable attitude to their fellow man, and there are people who advocate irrational untenable positions which

inevitably lead to self destruction.

Carl Packman
04 September 2009 at 11:11

What it is that is beginning to happen on this comments thread is exactly the reason why staggers should have religion blog, it sets the debate, it challenges opinions that would otherwise lie dormant.

And I'm fully with friendlyneighbourhoodhumanist, religion, like it or not, is here to stay and has even informed parts of our 'secular' society, the good bits and the bad.

Plus if you antireligionistas are also Dawkinsites, perhaps you buy into the meme myth, therefore since religion has replicable qualities you should argue its merits, or lack of, on its own terms. It makes for a very interesting debate, and I even did my little bit as contribution to it.

Scurra
04 September 2009 at 13:11

Arthur is quite correct in identifying the stereotypical two sides of this argument. However, the conclusion - that they represent "religious fundamentalism" and "atheism" - does not seem at all easonable to me.

There are plenty of "religious fundamentalists" who respect freedom of thought, reason etc, and there seem to be plenty of "atheists" who advocate attitudes that lead to self-destruction.

I remember a quote from somewhere (!) about the mote in your brother's eye... In the end, we're all individuals. I can guarantee that not one person "believes" the same things as the next person. To clump everyone together so that the tired old "Us" versus "Them" can be trotted out ("We" are all good, righteous and sane, "They" are all wrong, evil and mad) doesn't progress the argument in any way at all.

Arthur
04 September 2009 at 13:20

Atheists are generally prepared to debate. And that's pretty much all they do. Yet just take a look at this

garbage from the above article:

"it is less than a year since the home of the publisher Martin Rynja was firebombed because his firm was

due to print a novel about the Prophet Muhammad's bride Aisha. But in their words, many of those who seek to defend reason show themselves to be equally unreasonable and inflexible in their views. "

Those defending reason are as "equally unreasonable" as a religious fanatic who firebombed a house?

Get serious please before hosting a blog about these matters.

radius
04 September 2009 at 19:09

How does the proposition that some prominent left-wing british individuals were christians, contradict the proposition that religion devalues human life?

The notion that religion devalues human life arises from the common religious view that there *has* to be something more than 'this' - 'this' being obviously not good enough, a poor shadow of something much better that is to come. to quote one holy text, life is naught but a sport and a diversion. And it is an existential reality for many (though obviously not all) believers.

Is it really some sort of angry fundamentalism, comparable to the firebombing of a publisher, to argue such a case? Can I say that it obviously is not, without being (once again) labelled as an arrogant and angry fundamentalist as bad as Osama bin Laden and Jerry Falwell rolled into one?

angela koretth
05 September 2009 at 05:57

can one belong to one or other side of the debate without being fundamentalist about it? just asking. when in a group of leftists (most of my colleagues) i feel there's much that is being overlooked. when in a church group (most of my family) i feel the same. this isn't a passing phase. i've had this sense all my life. i don't feel "confused" and in need of help either. are there others out there who feel the same?

terence patrick hewett
05 September 2009 at 08:48

Sholto, like John Milton in his epic poem Paradise Lost has set out his argument neatly in the above article. I for one will welcome this blog, since any attempt to introduce some intellectual rigour into the debate can only be an improvement on the Religion is Bollocks thesis. We may only hope it will encourage an increase in reading, understanding and coherent argument. As Alexander Pope rightly said in An Essay on Man: Hope Springs Eternal.

Dr. Frans B. Roos, PHD
05 September 2009 at 14:21

For a starter NS should have better common sense than getting involved in religion, a subject that has caused grieve worldwide ever since it was man invented to control the masses for the aristocratic ruler(s).

Charles Darwin's “On the Origin of Species”, shook society to its core on publication in 1859. Darwin was only too aware of the storm his theory of evolution would provoke but he would surely have raised an incredulous eyebrow at the controversy still raging a century and a half later. Evolution is accepted as scientific fact by all reputable scientists and indeed theologians, yet millions of people continue to question its veracity.

From the living examples of natural selection in birds and insects; the ‘time clocks’ of trees and radioactive dating that calibrate a timescale for evolution; the fossil record and the traces of our earliest ancestors; to confirmation from molecular biology and genetics. All of this and much more bears witness to the truth of evolution.

This is a critical time: systematic opposition to the fact of evolution is now flourishing as never before, especially in America. In Britain and elsewhere in the world, teachers witness insidious attempts to undermine the status of science in their classrooms.

Richard Dawkins provides unequivocal evidence that boldly and comprehensively rebuts such nonsense. At the same time he shares with us his palpable love of the natural world and the essential role that science plays in its interpretation. His written materials are hard-hitting, absorbing and totally convincing which helps to be an atheist free of religious dogma.

DrFransBRoosPHD

gcdavis
06 September 2009 at 13:08

terence patrick hewett

05 September 2009 at 08:48

Belief in god and therefore religion is so patently absurd that using the term bollocks succinctly describes any ensuing debate. It is as pointless as arguing about the existence of father christmas. For most of the last thousand years most great art was inspired by religious belief and devotion, so what! It was based on a falsehood but it doesn’t mean that the Messiah is not a wonderful piece of music. We now understand virtually everything that religion once sort to explain and that which we don’t know can be left for future generations to unravel. Belief in god is simply a massive self delusion, if you cannot see that then it is because your head is still firmly implanted in the sand.

terence patrick hewett
06 September 2009 at 14:28

The scientific world is very ambivalent about the activities of Professor Dawkins. On the one hand they acknowledge his contribution to the biological sciences; on the other they regard the erroneous use of Darwin to justify the non-existence of a Creator as unhelpful; it is not the business scientists are in and not the business of science. Professor Dawkins, and his deplorable cultus, are bringing science into disrepute.

Frankly
06 September 2009 at 14:43

What strikes me about the religion vs reason debate which is missing; is that while we are pestered by people peddling their version of a "holy book which is the Word of God" or joining-in (or not) with a hymn at some event… we must not make any counterclaims, which may upset the believers. I have had these zealots knocking on my door from time to time and they can be persistent… I've never had an Atheist bother me.

Visit some web sites or the Tube and you can smell the vitriol and the irrationality of various faiths against science.

Quite reasonably some non-believers may respond in kind, while others may be looking to pick a fight… As comedian & atheist Dave Allen used to say "May your Gods go with you"

musafir
06 September 2009 at 19:34

There is need for kinder and gentler debate. But it is damn difficult. Just watch an American TV evangelist in action, fleecing the gullible, and the Pope preaching about poverty in Africa attired in an ostentatious robe. The thought that occurs is "humbug".

ghostof jeanmeslier
07 September 2009 at 11:57

What exactly is this Fine Old British Tradition of religious tolerance? In its first issue (1881), "The Freethinker" proclaimed itself "an anti-Christian organ...It will wage relentless war against Superstition in general, and against Christian Superstition in particular. It will do its best to employ the resources of Science, Scholarship, Philosophy and Ethics against the claims of the Bible as a Divine Revelation; and it will not scruple to employ for the same purpose any weapons of ridicule or sarcasm that may be borrowed from the armoury of Common Sense." Soon afterwards, I gather, its editor was imprisoned - admittedly an improvement on the executions of uncloseted doubters that continued in Scotland up to 1697 and are still supported by many Mohammedans.

I really resent accusations of intolerance fron the spritual heirs of Torquemada and his numerous equivalents, though I don't much mind people who just want to believe that there's sort of something out there. It's the many who claim to know its name and tastes who worry me. Oh, and Mohammed probably didn't have schizophrenia. Temporal lobe epilepsy is a more likely retrospective diagnosis. It has a well-documented associatian with religious enthusiams and hallucinations, a tendency to write a lot about them and the absence of a sense of humour. Sounds familiar?

radius
07 September 2009 at 21:11

"..debate in this area reminds me of a tradition at my old school called "the house shout", in which the members of two houses would bellow "Up School House" and "Up the Grange" at each other from two sides of a quad.."

Hmmmm. I guess this is an analogy most journalists would understand. Not sure about most readers though.

DenebKaitos
11 September 2009 at 11:44

It's not the belief in the existence of a god that is the ultimate self-delusion. It's the belief that such a being could possibly be benevolent.

Dr Phil Thomas
18 September 2009 at 22:16

The Left tends to excuse the murder of Christians by the Soviets in pursuit of Marx's mythical socialist society. Could it be that it's not religion that's at fault but human beings or as Shakespeare suggested "the fault ...is not in our stars but in ourselves"?

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