Uncomfortable origins

We have had a remarkable response to Tom Holland's essay of 13 October on the Christian roots of Eur

In 1074, a monk from the Benedictine Abbey of Cluny, in Burgundy, crossed the frontier of Christendom and entered Muslim Spain. Arriving in the infidel capital of Córdoba, he offered to walk through fire if only his audience would agree to abandon superstition and embrace the Christian faith. The Muslim king and his courtiers contemptuously ducked his challenge. Indeed, such was their scorn that they refused even to martyr him. The indignant monk was left with little choice but to "shake the dust from his feet, turn on his heels, and set off back home".

This was the de facto limit of multicultural dialogue in the Middle Ages. Just as Muslims tended to regard the civilisation of Latin Christendom with an invincible lack of interest, so did most medieval Christians find it impossible to conceive of Islam as a faith distinct and separate from their own. The conviction of the monk from Cluny that a spot of fire-walking might be sufficient to convert the Saracens reflected his deep-rooted presumption that their religion was no more self-sufficient and autonomous than a Christian heresy. Give them a little lecture, throw in a miracle, and they were bound to see the error of their ways.

Ever since Erasmus, the medieval mindset has been generating snorts of derision. No period in history is more subject to what E P Thompson termed "the enormous condescension of posterity" than the Middle Ages. The very term serves to condemn it: for the notion of a "Middle Age" derives from the determination of Renaissance humanists to cast themselves as the heirs of classical civilisation, and to dismiss everything in between as mere barbarism and backwardness. Such a conceit, if recent letters to the New Statesman are anything to go by, is still strongly maintained today. "The modern secular movement", it is argued, "which was interrupted by the age of faith in the Middle Ages", is part of a continuum which reaches back to "the early humanists" of the ancient past. As a classicist, I can only applaud such enthusiasm for the achievements of antiquity; as a historian, however, I do have some reservations.

Secularists scrabble around, hunting for any heritage so long as it is not Christian. They protest too much

Look again, for instance, at that Cluniac monk. Is he really so different from a member of the Humanist Association? In many ways, yes, of course - but in the manner, perhaps, that a theropod dinosaur is different from an ostrich. Evolution notwithstanding, the line of descent is clear enough. Monk and humanist alike are convinced that their respective belief systems embody the only sane way of interpreting the universe; both feel that it is a moral imperative to encourage everyone else to agree with them; both lay claim to a universalism that is in fact culturally highly specific. No less than the medieval Christian Church, Europe's post-Christian elite operates secure in the conviction that it has attained an enviably superior state of enlightenment, one that aspires to enfold within its embrace all other possible ways of seeing the world, and to neutralise all rival claims. Seeing secularism in that light, the tolerance that it extends to Islam is merely the mirror image of the Cluniacs' militant disdain: an expression of the complacency to which all powerful civilisations are, by their nature, prone.

To argue this is not, as a second correspondent complained, to slap atheist faces with a wet fish just for the sake of it. Rather, it is to make the point - permissible in a historian of the ancient and medieval worlds, surely? - that the origins of much that seems most modern to us can in fact be traced back to the distant past. Neutrality between different religions, as it is practised in Europe today, can never itself be culturally neutral, for the simple reason that it depends on a philosophy that is ultimately Christian in character. That the world can be divided into church and state, and that these twin realms should exist distinct from each other: here are presumptions with which many Muslims, for instance, would disagree profoundly. Certainly, there is nothing in the Quran equivalent to the New Testament injunction to render unto Caesar what is Caesar's. Muhammad, unlike Jesus, had neither the slightest hesitation in formulating a fiscal policy nor in laying claim to political authority. For those who imagine that the western model of the multicultural state can emasculate Islam as readily as it has de-fanged Christianity, this should be a detail of more than merely theological or antiquarian interest.

Yet many secularists are still determined to regard all religions as being essentially the same and to deny the glaring fact of their own descent from a specific religious tradition. Hence their scrabbling around for Greek, Roman, even Indian and Chinese progenitors - any heritage, it would seem, just so long as it is not Christian. They protest too much. To recognise the Christian roots of modern-day secularism is no more to accept the doctrinal truth or otherwise of Christianity than an acknowledgement of our cultural debt to ancient Greece is an obligation to set about worshipping Zeus. So much seems to me self-evident - and leads me to wonder whether there might not be, in the reluctance of so many secularists to trace their ethical and sociological presumptions back to Christian origins, something of Bishop Wilberforce's horror at the notion that he might be descended from an ape.

The western tradition of self-examination, of self-questioning, of self-doubt is indeed a precious one; but we can hardly afford to shrink from applying our own standards to ourselves. "Everything must be examined, everything must be shaken up, without exception and without circumspection." So wrote Diderot, that über-philosophe. If the question of what a supposedly post-Christian Europe owes to its Christian past is one that makes many enthusiasts for the Enlightenment uncomfortable, all the more reason, I would argue, for staring it in the face.

Tom Holland's "Millennium: the End of the World and the Forging of Christendom" is published by Little, Brown (£25). http://www.newstatesman.com/ideas/2008/10/europe-christian-e...

12 comments

Chip_Molly's picture

Your comment on Buddhism is both true and untrue. The buddhist scriptures record the sayings of Shakyamuni Buddha with a generic 'it doesn't matter' for issues which the Buddha felt had little transcendental meaning. This does not mean buddhism is agnostic. In truth buddhist philosophy is atheistic, a spirit still cultivated by theravada buddhists.

And yes I am a buddhist.

nikos's picture

very interesting article

malachy's picture

"Render unto Caesar" is about obeying those in authority - it's not 'progressive'. It was a sensible move for a faith that wanted to compete in the run-offs for state religion of Rome (as was blaming the execution of their guru on "the Jews" rather than the Romans who actually killed him.

The maker of Islam, on the other hand, had no such problems - he was able to take his army straight to conquest.

gnuneo's picture

"If the main religion in an atheist's society is christianity, then it will obviously be the main focus of criticism: it doesn't mean their atheism is a "specifically Christian cult" or have any implications for the universality of the lack of belief in god."

however it certainly *does* - if their criticisms are based upon the specific Christian concept of God. Remember, to "choose to believe in the non-existence of God" requires the person first to have a concept of God that they 'believe' in, and then determine from that that this concept is false.

this is equivalent to my saying i believe the concept of 'Gravity' to be invisible bunny rabbits jumping up and puling everything down - from which i then argue that 'Gravity' does not exist, as this is a ridiculous concept. (Obviously its invisible meer-cats.).

so far, is this philosophically grounded?

"Nor do I see a 'Dawkins variety' of atheism."

Dawkins has specifically said he is only atheist with regards to JCM notions of God - although again, limited really to common, or garden variety concepts of God. I suspect he would quickly lose his bearings in the world of Gnosticism, for instance. This is also why i referred to him in my criticism of atheism being a Christian cult.

"I suspect that, by popularising and clarifying atheist ideas, Dawkins has enabled more unbelievers to come out. "

i suspect his personal brand of fanaticism has actually made a lot of what are really agnostics re-brand themselves as atheists, which has done immeasurable harm to Science in general. A Scientist should never be *certain* of anything - there should always be the possibility the current paradigm is wrong. Another reason why i label atheism as a cult.

gnuneo's picture

"but so many of the Oxbridge set (Holland included) have no concept of how hard it is to carry your unbelief within strongly religious communities (believe me, hidden unbelief is widespread) - in their ivory towers they think atheism is trivial and easy, and cultivate this spiteful attitude."

and do you have any idea how hard it is to carry theism - or even agnosticism - within strongly atheist communities? I have been a pagan on both a secular forum, and a Muslim forum (gawaher.com), and far away of the two, the abuse i received from the atheists because i didn't agree with their religious beliefs stood in absolute contrast to the reception on the Muslim forum - even though the Muslim forum specifically said that no other religions were allowed to be proselyted in any way. The atheists behaved in a way that can only be described as religiously fundamentalist, using ANY tactics including personal smears to 'win' the debate.

other agnostics i know have experienced the same, that atheists behave in a manner that is the exact opposite of how serious, open-minded scientists *should* behave.

"Comparing atheists to evangelicals, fundamentalists - and now medieval monks - is de rigeur, but it is sloppy thinking as well as, well, pretty childish."

you may think so, but in my experience it is painfully apt. I wish it were not so. However when humans choose a religious belief - a belief that underpins their sense of Self - they will defend that belief with the vigour they would defend themselves. And a belief in the non-existence of something, is virtually - or indeed fully - identical to having a belief IN something.

a belief is a belief, and a believer is a believer.

gnuneo's picture

Tom Holland: i both agree and disagree.

yes, it should be obvious to any neutral minded observer of the Enlightenment, that it was in many many respects a specifically Christian evolution - even in Thomas Payne, we can see that the split into "science is over the natural world, and the Church maintains its sway over values" as an implicit acceptance of the power of Christendom, and has led to the mind-numbingly appalling bad rejection of the reality that Science MUST accept and research values - the supposed "value-free science" has led to the development - and use - of vast arrays of WMD, and the notion that scientists should just research whatever their political masters tell them to. This is just one example, yet another is that "atheism" is a specifically Christian cult, yet its adherents claim to a universality.

all this i must agree with.

yet in another sense, you are also wrong. Multiculturalism/polytheism is NOT a specific Christian value, indeed your own previous article explains the pre-Iranian Persian empire was explicitly multi-cultural, as indeed are many of the Eastern religions, such as Hinduism (in its non-Nationalist sense), Buddhism and Taoism.

even here in the west, the spread of Christendom to Western Pagan cultures was certainly helped by the fact of Pagan multiculturalism/polytheism, where the Solar figure of the Christ was already supported by pre-existing Religious values/figures.

we do not need to look to the (in historical terms) recent arrival of Christendom for the values of tolerance in Western Society, and in fact monotheistic Christendom has probably done most to *restrict* such values, with heresy trials, witch-massacres, and the whole paraphernalia of Totalitarian culture that the hegemonic Catholic Church of Imperial Rome brought with it - and was incorporated into most Protestant schisms.

the question here is: Did multiculturalism/effective polytheism come from Christianity, or was it a value that *preceded* the Christians?

malachy's picture

In the way that bolshevism was a specifically Tsarist evolution I suppose? While atheism by definition postdates theism, it obviously predates christianity. Even Tom Holland will know that as a western classicist - though in his mindset Europe seems to be the only show in town (the pre-Socratics etc), the history, culture and tradition of atheism in India is much more substantial. And of course Buddhism has major atheist roots and strands...is it a christian cult too? Or is it just that referring to such way-out wacky peripheral places like India and China is "scrabbling around"?

malachy's picture

..when I say "by definition" I mean in relation to bothering to use the term 'atheism'. Obviously where/when gods haven't been posited, there is an absence of belief in them - just that nobody would be in a position to call it 'atheism' without the concept of 'gods' in the first place.

gnuneo's picture

"atheism by definition postdates theism, it obviously predates christianity."

ahh, i fell into my own trap there, of limiting religious labels purely to western viewpoints, you are right.

i was referring to the Dawkins variety of 'atheism', where he specifically limits his "atheism" to the JCM notions of God.

however Buddhism is NOT an explicitly atheist religion, in fact when the Buddha was asked about the existence of God(s)ess(es), he simply replied - "it doesn't matter".

this is a purely agnostic approach, and sidelines the atheist cult completely.

malachy's picture

If the main religion in an atheist's society is christianity, then it will obviously be the main focus of criticism: it doesn't mean their atheism is a "specifically Christian cult" or have any implications for the universality of the lack of belief in god. Nor do I see a 'Dawkins variety' of atheism. I suspect that, by popularising and clarifying atheist ideas, Dawkins has enabled more unbelievers to come out. He lends his class confidence to this (for that we are grateful), but so many of the Oxbridge set (Holland included) have no concept of how hard it is to carry your unbelief within strongly religious communities (believe me, hidden unbelief is widespread) - in their ivory towers they think atheism is trivial and easy, and cultivate this spiteful attitude. Comparing atheists to evangelicals, fundamentalists - and now medieval monks - is de rigeur, but it is sloppy thinking as well as, well, pretty childish.

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