Leader: From believing in absurdities to committing atrocities
The most shocking thing about Breivik is how many people agree with his opinions.
By New Statesman Published 18 April 2012
How should a free society respond to terror? After the attacks of 11 September 2001, the US and the UK curtailed civil liberties to a degree unprecedented in peacetime, insisting that there was a trade-off to be made between liberty and security. But Norway, where the far-right terrorist Anders Breivik murdered 77 civilians last July, offers a different model. While Tony Blair declared that “the rules of the game have changed” after the 7 July 2005 bombings in London, the Norwegian prime minister, Jens Stoltenberg, confronted by an even greater atrocity, insisted that the rules remained the same. After Breivik’s massacre, Stoltenberg promised “more democracy, more openness and greater political participation”. This week, as Breivik’s trial opened in an Oslo courtroom, a short distance from the site of his car bomb attack, his country fulfilled that pledge.
Breivik, the biggest mass murderer in Norway’s recent history, is on trial in the normal way and accorded the same rights as other criminal defendants, including the right to address the court. That he has used this as an opportunity to hold forth on the “Islamisation” of Norway and the evils of immigration has not diminished the country’s commitment to due process. The Norwegian judiciary has made every effort to avoid jeopardising Breivik’s right to a fair trial. A lay judge who posted a comment last year on Facebook calling for Breivik to receive the death penalty was dismissed on the grounds that the statements “may weaken trust in his impartiality”. There have been notably few calls from voters to revise the maximum statutory penalty of 21 years imprisonment (a sentence that can be renewed at five-year intervals) and polls show that just 16 per cent support the reinstatement of capital punishment.
Such liberalism is all the more admirable from a population, which, owing to its small size (five million), was irrevocably scarred by the murders. One in four Norwegians knew, or knew of, one or more of the victims. On a per capita basis, Norway lost twice as many people that day as the US did on 9/11. In his opening remarks to the court, Breivik did not deny responsibility for the deaths of 77 people. Rather, he claimed that this was an act of “self-defence” against the “state traitors” who opened Norway to multiculturalism.
It is convenient for some to dismiss Breivik’s views as the ramblings of a mad narcissist and a psychopath. But strip away his more outlandish rhetoric and there is little to separate them from those frequently expressed on the pages of the conservative press. It was Breivik’s actions, rather than his beliefs, that distinguished him from other right-wing ideologues. His tropes of choice – the rise of “Eurabia”, the insidious influence of “cultural Marxism” – will be familiar to anyone who has read the work of Melanie Phillips or Mark Steyn, two of the writers cited in Breivik’s manifesto. The neoconservative author Norman Podhoretz titled his work on “Eurabia” World War IV. Breivik merely pursued such ideas to their extreme conclusion. As Voltaire wrote, “those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities”.
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149 comments
@Julia
great news, i've cracked the code! thanks for pointing me in the right direction. it happened when you concluded that Breivik wanting to behead his Prime Minister is closely related to Muslims who each and everyday behead tens of thousands of babies and women. you were nearly right. but now i've applied your use of correlation=causation and applied copious quantities of illogic to figure out the root cause of terrorism.
the real cause is beards.
Breivik has a beard and he massacred loads of people. all those funny brown Muslims you hate all wear beards too! do you see now Julia, it's caused by their beards. their beards drive them to murder nice clean white shaved Westerners like you and me.
spread the word Julia before it's too late!!!! all Muslims must now shave in order for the War on Terror to be won.
Apparently Breivik sees ultra-Zionist Jews as allies in the war against Islam:
"In one passage, he lashes out at the Western media, which he accuses of unfairly focusing on the wrongdoing of Jews.
“Western Journalists again and again systematically ignore serious Muslim attacks and rather focus on the Jews,” he wrote.
Breivik also took a jab at leftwing Jews.
“Jews that support multi-culturalism today are as much of a threat to Israel and Zionism as they are to us,” he continued.
“So let us fight together with Israel, with our Zionist brothers against all anti-Zionists, against all cultural Marxists/multiculturalists.”
He also stated that Israel is the homeland for Jews largely due to the persecution suffered by Jews at the hands of Muslims, saying “if one acknowledges that Islam has always oppressed the Jews, one accepts that Israel was a necessary refuge for the Jews fleeing not only the European, but also the Islamic variety of anti- Judaism.”
The manifesto also serves as a call-to-arms, of sorts, in which Breivik lays out his reasons for launching the attack, focusing on what he described as the importance of nationalism and the growing scourge of Islam in Europe".
http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=230762
His views are not a million miles away from some I have read on this very site.
Just can't stop the Jew-hatred you islamonazi Arminius?
If your looking for connections you'll find plenty between Islam and Nazism.
The palestinian Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin el-Husseini found refuge in Nazi Germany after staging a failed Nazi coup in Iraq. He spent the rest of the war years setting up an SS Division that slaughtered Bosnian Jewry. He broadcast Nazi propaganda citing Hitler who repeatedly stated that Nazi ideology was closely akin to Islam.
Yasser Arafat: according to Kate Dorian of the Associated Press witnessed west German neo-Nazi member of Karl Heinz Hoffman being trained in PLO terror centers run by arafat.
Amazing also how Mein Kampf and the Protocols of the elders of Zion sell so fabulously well in the moslem world. They are actually on display for all to see at Kuala Lumpa International Airport. Then again, I'm sure you know this already. They probaby are your favourite bedtime reading!
The Egyptian mussolini, Gamal Abdul Nasser, recruited 2000 German Nazis to help him develop his chemical tipped missile armoury which he sought to exterminate all Jews in Israel.
The fascist Baathist regime recruited the Nazi war criminal, Alois Brunner, whom the French had sentenced to death in abstentia, to set up his security services and torture chambers.
The former Waffen SS Gunter Grass is now a hero for all islamist scumbags like yourself for his deranged criticism of Israel.
Islamism = Nazism
well said Coleridge, your post provides yet more factual evidence that Islam and Nazis and the likes of Breivik are all linked by the fact they have facial hair.
clearly everything else like politics/economics/theology/etc is an irrelevance because; Breivik has facial hair, Muslims have facial hair, and Hitler had facial hair, causing them all to commit extremist acts of extreme violence.
well done Coleridge, spread the word; all Muslims must shave to stop terrorism!
Coleridge - You have posted this crap before; Haj Amin el-Husseini did not set up an SS Division. He visited the Handschar Division a few times and helped to recruit some of the Muslim in the unit including (the Imams) but it was set up by the SS and them alone. Besides there were Catholic and Protestant Christians in the Division as at least 25% of the unit was made up of Germans, Austrians and Croats. They had no involvement in the slaughter of Bosnian Jewry as this had been mostly accomplished by the catholic Croat Ustase before the Handschar Division was even formed. Because you keep posting the same historical lies won't make them true.
Karl Heinz Hoffman may have been at a PLO training camp but his group was athe lunatic fringe of a lunatic fringe and has been banned for 30+ years. Besides, the Left Wing Baader-Meinhof Group/RAF trained with Palestinians so this has nothing to do with ideology.
Mein Kampf and the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion can be bought on Amazon, so what?
The CIA, MI6 and the BND all recruited ex-Nazis so again this has nothing to do with ideology.
Gunter Grass has been a pacifist and anti-Nazi for most of his life, far longer than the few months he spent as a conscript in the Waffen-SS. Only a rabid Zionist would try to equate his involuntary service in the Waffen-SS some 60= years ago with his entirely justified criticism of the fascist regime in Jerusalem.
Just to remind you......Zionism is a death cult.
just can't stop justifying, lying about and condoning the strong equation both physical and ideological that exists between your Islamism and nazism can you Arminius ? How sickening?
Surely the best place to continue posting your garbage is on some Islamist or neo-nazi website where your racist anti-jew crap will be very well received.
It is you who is the lying toad making spurious connections between a political ideology which disappeared from the mainstream nearly 70 years ago and a religion who's adherent you so obviously despise. Assuming that you can deal with a book which does not have lift up flaps or which has to be coloured in with crayons you might try £Himmler's Bosnian Division" by the US academic George Lepre. It will inform you of the Grossmufti's limited role in the formation of the Handschar Division but you will find no reference in the book as to the Division's role in the persecution of Bosnian Jews. This is because it did not exist whilst the Ustase carried out most of this work or was hundreds of miles away training in France (where some Bosnian members of the unit mutinied against the SS).
If you want to bring something to the table to help the Zionist cause, I would suggest it is silence such is your ignorance.
Oh, and I forgot to mention......Zionism is a death cult.
With your Jew-hatred Arminius and Brevics hostility to Moslems, you two actually make a great couple. Then again there is no difference between your medieval, nazi-supporting, women-stoning, gay hanging, apartheid-Pakistan supporting death cult called Islam and Nazism.
So you have finally run out of things to say (as you always do when confronted with the inaccuracies and idiocy of your posts) and have to resort to the usual nonsense from your cut and paste collection of rants. You are serving the cause of anti-Zionism admirably, so well done.
Don't forget, Zionism is a death cult.