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The children of Gaza

Jocelyn Hurndall

Published 13 January 2009

Five years to the day after her son was killed by an IDF sniper, Jocelyn Hurndall writes on the deaths of children in Gaza as the Israeli onslaught there continues

The attacks on Gaza are taking a terrible toll on the civilian population including its children

Today, faced with the killing of more than 300 Gazan children in barely a fortnight, I can’t help but replay the image of my son, Tom, reaching out to three Palestinian toddlers sheltering from Israeli sniper fire behind a mound of rubble in Rafah.

In his Middle East journal Tom wrote, “Strange, isn’t it, that no matter what the hardship suffered by children in London, it will never compare with what is experienced in Baghdad, Cairo or Amman. The world is clearly an unfair place and the loudest call is for self-preservation. Without the sight of the suffering that exists elsewhere being forced on us, we don’t even contemplate it.”

Over the last two weeks, seldom has it been more tragically apparent that innocent children are completely unprotected when bombs start to fall. With mounds of rubble being turned into mountains, ambulances are unable to collect injured children or those buried beneath their own homes.

Other children, ordered by Israeli forces to take refuge in a school with their families, are then shelled, left to cling to the bodies of their dead mothers for days. Meanwhile, the Israelis repeat their mantra that they are taking the greatest possible pains to avoid civilian casualties. Is it difficult for Israeli pilots and artillerymen to avoid coordinates unconnected to Hamas? It is not. And yet they bomb them. We are forced to draw our own conclusions as to whether the Israeli forces are systematically inept…or callous beyond comprehension. Or both.

We each agonise over what can be done to stop this great loss of innocent life - and for those who manage to survive, the loss of their childhood innocence. It is unfathomably frustrating that we can’t seem to do more to safeguard the children of Gaza.

In the weeks following Tom’s shooting we had to make sense of what had happened emotionally, politically, diplomatically, legally, and medically. It became quickly apparent that we were going to get no help from the Israelis. We had to quickly develop an insight into the intention behind what people said, or were pointedly not saying to us. The Israelis wouldn’t meet, discuss evidence, or even gather any. Instead, they produced a report that was a fabrication and a cover up.

Right up until the moment they charged an Israeli Defence Force (IDF) smiper with shooting an unarmed civilian - my son, they insisted that they were really shooting at a gunman. The Israelis asked the British coroner for all the information we had gathered from the British pathologist and the British police before Tom’s inquest was held. In return, they refused to disclose a single shred of their own evidence.

What this experience showed us is that where their own actions are concerned the Israelis are not greatly interested in truth or justice, or even apology. For them, anyone injured or killed by their forces is de facto a militant, or a terrorist, or an associate of terrorists. Very occasionally they allow that an innocent has been caught in crossfire between their soldiers and terrorists, though often with an imputation that said victim should not have been so close to terrorists to have been caught up in the battle. In the current offensive, innocents have died in such horrific numbers that they have even stopped saying this.

I remember the journey to Be’ersheva from Ben Gurion airport back in 2003. The well-informed British Military Attache turned to me and said, “I have to warn you, don’t expect too much of the Israelis”. It made me recall the time I was Tom’s age, when I was working on a kibbutz, and a kibbutznik told me that Israel had ‘the most moral army in the world’. I’d thought at the time, why should an army of a democratic country claim morality as its badge of honour? It rang hollow even then. As everyone except the most cynical spin doctor knows, “morality” and “army” should never knowingly be uttered in the same sentence. War has rules but no morals. It would be a start if Israel even acknowledged the rules.

Yesterday, I spoke to my good friend, Erella, an Israeli who lives on a kibbutz outside Be’ersheva. I asked her about the reaction of the Israeli public to the killings in Gaza. She replied, “best not to talk about the Israeli public. More and more people are against the war, but the media is creating reality and people don’t know what’s really going on. Even though the Gazans don’t have electricity, some of the homes have their own generators and so they manage to send emails, but not many.” She can hear every bomb that falls on the Gaza Strip. While the people paying the price are innocent children she isn’t interested in who is right and who is wrong. She speaks with her friends in Gaza each day, who say, “We are sitting in our house, waiting our turn”.

With all the clarity of a young voice, Nour Kharma, from Gaza writes: “Today is the eighth day of this horrible war. To me yesterday was the worst day of all. When I woke up in the morning one of my friends called, his voice was very weird. He told me Christine died. I was in a big shock, and till now I don’t believe it. I threw the phone and started crying. Her parents did the best they can do, but it wasn’t enough so the result was dying. What if my parents couldn’t protect me and give me the support I need...will I die too? What I can say now is that my future is almost destroyed. An Israeli rocket hit my school this morning, and the school was destroyed completely. I really can’t imagine how come they’re bombing mosques, schools, and universities. In every explosion we feel our house shaking and about to be destroyed; what about the people that already lost their homes? I’m crying for the loss of one of my friends... what about the people that lost at least five of their relatives? Depression and fear are filling our souls and surrounding our homes…what’s next? I actually don’t wish for anything as much as I wish that this war will end soon and that the Palestinian people can live like any other people and Palestinian children can enjoy their childhood like any children in the world. Help us because we’re all human beings”.

I am often asked, what is it like to lose a child? It’s like this. Between the instant of receiving the news and the next instant in which you have to comprehend it, you somehow realise that every cell in your body is about to be shaken furiously, and you freeze to delay the moment of impact. Your entire existence becomes concertinaed into the space between the blow and the pain, and nothing will ever, or can ever be the same again. With vast international pressure why can’t there be agreement between all sides that Gazan children and mothers should be safely housed? That no more Gazan children shall go without their mothers, and no more Gazan mothers told that they have lost their children.

In the first instance, let us work as hard as we are able towards bringing an end to the mounting deaths of the innocent on both sides. And then hold those responsible to account…

Jocelyn Hurndall Development Director Friends of Birzeit University

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51 comments from readers

Zen
13 January 2009 at 15:49

…hold those responsible to account…

Hamas is a political movement dedicated to the murder of every last Jew, (see the final quote of Article 7 of their Charter). The adults in Gaza elected Hamas to a majority government position. For eight years Hamas rained Iranian and home made rockets on Israelis; but no one complained about that. No one protested when Hezbollah was raining rockets on Israel from the North either. One can only assume that the world thinks the Israelis deserve it for some reason.

No one protested any self evident terrorist attacks on Israel as vehemently as they now protest against Israeli tactics of self-defence, (and against Israeli sovereignty and Jewish National Self Determination).

The Israelis have killed fewer civilians in total and in proportion, than NATO has done in Afghanistan, than were killed in Iraq or than are being killed in Darfur. However the Israeli actions are singled out for extra special attention and condemnation. The Arab and Muslim States who have never recognised Israel’s existence stand in a mass pointing the accusatory finger at Israel; all the self-righteous Judeophobes in the world now join them.

Of course the world bears no responsibility for forcing the Israelis to endure the ceaseless attacks for decades, and these consequences. Of course those responsible must be solely the Israelis. It cannot be that the world has again abandoned Jews to discrimination and violence only to protest when the Jews stand up for themselves. Just as Jews were guilty for the death of Jesus, the Black Death and every war fought in Europe, they are now to be held solely responsible for the suffering in Gaza.

Of course Hamas, Iran, the Muslim States bear no responsibility. It is both understandable and forgivable that Hamas fights illegally from amongst children against the Jewish State. We must abolish their right to both self-determination and self-defence. We must use sanctions to destroy their country.

rightofleft
13 January 2009 at 16:24

Jocelyn Hurdnall;

"Is it difficult for Israeli pilots and artillerymen to avoid coordinates unconnected to Hamas? It is not"

Question for you; How on earth would you know?

Ever piloted an F16? or an Apache? Ever even been in a tank or operated a field gun?

Didn't think so.

Also the deliberate teargeting of mosques = the deliberate use of mosques as an arms dump.

Mrs Hurdnall where is your concern about the Hamas booby trapping of civilain houses, fridges!!, school yards, The fact that Hamas position their booby traps bombs at waist height so they can tear a soldier in two.

Understandibly you have an axe to grind against Israel., but even taking this into consideration, or especially taking it consideration, makes you the least qualified and one of the most baised commentators that I've read yet.

And I've read a few!

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Jane Greene
13 January 2009 at 16:49

It is possible to find something out without directly experiencing it - or have you been torn in two, rightofleft?

rfalken
13 January 2009 at 17:36

The image of a one child holding his teddy bear is heartbreakig and my heart goes out to the children being hurt. Your observation that "..innocent children are completely unprotected when bombs start to fall. " is obvious. Most people are unprotected in such circumstances.

You point that: "the loss of their childhood innocence.." is a given. However, I wonder at which point this loss occurs.

Where is the parental responsibility to safeguard their children?

Why there are no images of adult Palestinians training children to hold and use handguns, AK47s, grenades and explosive vests.

Why is this not discussed?

Amihai
13 January 2009 at 17:47

The present conflict in Gaza could come to an end within a couple of hours. Yes, if only Hamas ceased firing its mortar shells and short and long range rockets at the children of Israel - it hit several schools and kindergartens so far while the children there were hiding in shelters.....; if Hamas adhered to previously signed agreements with Israel and stop the delivery into Gaza of illicit weapons and explosives; and if Hamas released Gilad Shalit without any pre-conditions.

But Hamas appears to favor the suffering of the civilian population of Gaza behind which it hides its weapons, explosives and personnel.

Therefore, all demands must be addressed to the thugs of Hamas by those hoping to some day see an accommodation of peaceful co-existence between Arab and Jew, between Israel and its Arab neighbors, which is every Jew's dream, Israeli and otherwise.

Amihai
13 January 2009 at 18:08

Persistent eyewitness reports and photographs tell of Hamas's leaders hiding in the basement of the Shifa Hospital of Gaza, using the civilians in this medical facility as human shields, a form of war crime.

Also, similar reports, based on photo documentation, accuse Hamas's armed forces of producing weapons and stockpiling them and explosives in mosques, in schools and in people's homes and firing them from schoolyards and the yards of medical facilities, which also amount to war crimes and crimes against humanity.

And of course, Hamas's exclusive targets for many years have been population canters in Israel – the blue colour towns of S'derot, Ashqelon, the universities in Beer Sheba and Sapir, and the collective and cooperative farming communities and their residents, of southern Israel - also considered war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Israel has been seeking an accommodation of peaceful co-existence with its Arab neighbours, in Gaza and elsewhere. But Israel, as any other country, can not permit its citizens to be targeted day in and day out, especially when the declared goal of the attackers is to erase the Jewish state of Israel – a UN member state – off the face of the earth and with it the Jewish civilization in this national homeland of the Jewish people (read Hamas's Charter!!!).

At present, Hamas must loose its will and motivation to fire at Israel and Israelis, and most of the means with which it conducts its war machine against Israel's civilian population must be eliminated. In addition, all illicit weapons and explosives must cease from making their way into Gaza. And of course, without Gilad Shalit coming back home this conflict will not come to an end.

On a longer term, the demand of the UN, EU, US, Russia as well as Arab states and the Palestinian Authority presidency of Hamas must stand if it (Hamas) wishes to be part of any peace process: Cease all acts of terror and violence against Israel and Israelis and the preparations for such acts, adhere to previously signed agreements with Israel, and recognize Israel's right – a UN member state – to exist.

Israelis have never sought anything beyond an accommodation of peaceful co-existence between Arab and Jew, between Israel and its Arab neighbors.

Can Israel's neighbors rise to the occasion and seek the same goal??

Cybertiger
13 January 2009 at 19:49

"Israelis have never sought anything beyond an accommodation of peaceful co-existence between Arab and Jew, between Israel and its Arab neighbors."

Is it a full moon? I think Amihai is a bit of a loon.

ali8ea
13 January 2009 at 20:38

I think Amihail has been put here to post as many lies as he can by the murderous zionists. If the lies spoken become even greater in the end people start to believe them.

He forgets to mention that the complete lies spoken by the idf in the deliberate slaughter of the innocent civilions at the UN school has now been changed to a possible rogue mortar shell. Strange how the lies have suddenly changed when the UN spokesman said that if the idf statement is found to be false then criminal charges will follow.

Amihail, once this slaughter in Gaza is over, you and your other zionist slaughter of the innocent deniars who are complicit along with the idf should be tried for war crimes.

writeon
13 January 2009 at 21:25

Dear Jocelyn,

I feel enormously for you. Mere words don't seem adequate to express my sympathy for your terrible loss. The obscenity of the ghastly and pointless waste of your sons life still shocks me. We can though honour him by remembering him, as I still do, and remembering why he was murdered, what he believed in and why he risked his life. I think it had something, among other things, to do with peace, truth, justice, humanity and mercy. These are noble aspirations, part of what raises us above the level of savage beasts, with blood dripping from our claws and fangs and makes us desire to be caring, decent, loving and profoundly human. We can, as your son so admirably showed, turn away from brutality, choose to put down the club and the gun, and control our baser instincts, the primative desire to kill and conquer for our flag and our tribe.

The callous, negative 'quality' of the remarks relating to your article, don't surprise me. I'm used to them. They illustrate with their language everything that Tom wasn't, everything he didn't believe in and why he was killed.

Indifference to the pain, suffering and slaughter of innocent children, trying to excuse, find blame and rationalise such crimes are the further steps in the decent into barbarism which war is a manifistation of. The ability to de-humanise the enemy is part of the psychosis of war. It leads ultimately to the deathcamp and genocide. Not only that it destroys what it really means to be human. That fragile part of us is swept away in a river of blood that flows towards hell on earth.

And hell on earth is what Gaza has become. Gaza, our Guernica, our Wasaw Ghetto, our concentration camp. On the hillside tourists and the curious watch the inferno with binoculars and take photos and have picnics, like tourists in hell. Haven't we seen this happen before?

War is an abomination and a crime. There is no 'good' way to kill, no 'right' way to kill, no justice, no morality to speak of. War is hell.

ali8ea
13 January 2009 at 21:47

Amilhai.

You are a liar and a denier. After the slaughter is finished. You and the rest of the zionists who have been posted to spread the lies on all the news blogs like this will be tried for war crimes along with the idf and the israeli government.

Carl Jones
13 January 2009 at 21:52

Come on, last week the NS was swamped with these twee articles and this does not belittle personal loss, or the crimes being committed in Gaza.

Anyone with half an ounce of brain, will know what is going on. These rants are not helping Palistinian`s in Gaza...these articles are just a diversion from the complcity of Western governments (NWO) and their ultimate support for Israel`s actions in Gaza.

Bush and Cheney vetoed the UN resolution...Obama remains silent and the WEST does ziltch. The only country to expel the Israeli ambassador is Venezuela! LOL

How many UN resolutions are Israel in violation of???

The facts are, that THEY are all in it together. Next Tuesday (20th), the NWO changes its underpants, they will be clean for a very short "period", but Obama is full of the same NWO ----!LOL

Every person who dies in Gaza over the next week, will be a war crime committed by Bush and Cheney.

Strange how the NS are avoiding Global warming and the economy...lets see what the rest of the week brings us.LOL

writeon
13 January 2009 at 22:05

ali8ea,

Peace be opon you. Peace not war. The slaughter of the innocents will not be forgotten or forgiven. That kind of mercy, can only come from God.

But it's highly unlikely any of the war criminals will stand trial, at least not until the Palestinians become the majority inside Israel in few decades. But I doubt that will ever be allowed to happen. In Israel democracy and human rights are not for everyone, shameful, but true.

Something else will have to happen and we all know what that is don't we? The road to freedom for the Palestinian people goes through the passive, corrupt and subjugated Arab capitals. Only when they are free will there be any chance of freedom for Palestine. So the struggle will be long and hard. The Arabs are still weighed down by the chains of colonialism, only now their masters are their own leaders, like the Pharaoh in Egypt who crushes his own people and the Palestinians.

And stop using the letters IDF. This stands for Israeli Defence Force and is a piece of 'pure' propaganda.

Carl Jones
13 January 2009 at 22:41

Cybertiger; it is very unlikely. BIGGER and more alarming constructs are likely in the short term. And we can`t even get Blair into court and the Metropolitain Police are sitting on evidence.

Carl Jones
14 January 2009 at 09:25

Cybertiger. I call it "layer cake". We won`t get a significant quiet "period" for anything to develope against Israel and its leaders. The recently released statement that the US blocked an Israeli move to strike Iran, and then MSM tv pitures with Olmert BRAGGING/TELLING Bush to veto the UN resolution against Israel....the NWO is playing mind games with the public.

The Gaza crimes will allow the NWO to stage false flag attacks against Israel, the US and UK....Bush has just given some "VERY" public advice to Obama...the "most urgent" threat is a terror attack on the US. LOL

If a nuke goes off, Gaza will look like a DISTRACTION....this is "layer cake", one construct on another. The more Israel is isolated, the more likely there will be another world war...and we know who will get blamed for future terror attacks, Iran and Pakistan.LOL

Amihai
14 January 2009 at 10:55

"…the Gaza crimes…"

Should one assume these crimes refer to the fact that the leaders of Hamas have been producing and stockpiling their illicit weapons and explosives inside mosques, UN managed schools, kindergartens and in the lower floors of apartment blocks populated by civilians? Or do these crimes refer to the fact that Hamas personnel situate themselves inside medical facilities and physically hiding behind neighborhood boys and girls? And one other possibility, do these crimes refer to the fact that Hamas armed forces have been firing rockets – even during "ceasefire" periods – fore years, aiming to hit houses of worship, kindergartens, people dwellings, even cowsheds and chicken coops of the collective and cooperative farming communities of Israel?

I certainly don't think such crimes are committed by those who ask the civilian of population of Gaza – through the use of leaflets, radio and telephone messages - to vacate a building before it is hit by a missile. I certainly don't think that the many hundreds of trucks of medical and food supplies making their ways to these civilians daily from across the border, sent by the very people who are to be "erased off the face of the earth and with them their nation-state and their Jewish civilization". Nor do I think those who continue to supply the territory in question with water, electricity and petrol to assist as much as possible and ease the situation in which the civilians there suffer as a result of the aggression of their own leaders, Hamas.

So, who is really committing crimes in Gaza??!!

Cybertiger
14 January 2009 at 11:19

"So, who is really committing crimes in Gaza??!!"

Israeli war criminals. Send them to The Hague.

rightofleft
14 January 2009 at 12:04

jane greene;

Whislt i get your point, it is nonethelss reduntant. Being blown in two by a bomb does not take a huge leap in imagination. pretending you understand hwo to fly a atatoe the art fighter plane does.

War crimes;

Should Winston Churchill stood trial over the carpet bombing of German cities?

The leadership of Hamas be arrested for war crimes for targeting civilians in the first place and then using their own especially children as human shields.

rightofleft
14 January 2009 at 12:04

sorry for typos!

Cybertiger
14 January 2009 at 12:17

Jonesy said,

"Cybertiger; it is very unlikely. BIGGER and more alarming constructs are likely in the short term."

Wot's unlikely? Wot did I say? The NS censor seems very coy about calls for international justice for crimes against humanity ... perpetrated by Israel's democratically elected leaders.

Carl Jones
14 January 2009 at 12:21

Cybertiger; IDF dressed as Hamas fighters....in full kit, but failed to cover the "star of david" on his chest.

rightofleft; yesterday, a Jewish professor slated (C4 News) Israel for its crimes in Gaza and their breaking of the negotiated ceasefire....200 rockets a month, to just 3, then the IDF went into Gaza and kidnapped 6 Palistinians...this broke the peace.

I have said it several time on this site, Churchill was a war criminal, so is Major, Blair and the Bush`s...add Kissinger....there are sooo many, we are spoilt for choice.

Carl Jones
14 January 2009 at 12:29

How does IDF dressed as Hamas fighters get you? They looked very convincing, until you noticed the Star of David on his chest.LOL

Amihai
14 January 2009 at 12:35

Sir/Madam,

There are constant references in these threads to "Zionism". Hoping to clarify the essence of this political ideology and by so doing contributing to the depth of the discussion regarding this concept, I have noticed that my post did not go through and was not published.

Question: Is this the way in which to conduct a "free exchange of information, knowledge and ideas" or is it simple manifestation of partisanship?

Thank you for sharing with me and others your response.

Amihai

Jane Greene
14 January 2009 at 12:56

What, right of centre, - it's not possible to read about the technical capacity of a peace of military hardware and then apply that information to make a point in an article?

Turning to the bombing of Germany, one could argue that the bombing was a legitimate and proportionate response to the Blitz.. On the other hand Churchill's using of gas on tribes in the area now known as Iraq for non-payment of taxes would be a better example for you to use. Help yourself.

Amihai
14 January 2009 at 13:05

"Zionism"

Do you mean Judaism, but afraid, for political correctness, to spew hate at it thus Zionism becomes a good substitute?

Well, as a matter of fact, Judaism is the civilization of a people, of the Jewish people, and it has been around for nearly 4,000 years. The cradle of this civilization of course is that geographic area called Eretz Israel (Land of Israel) and its members have been the Hebrew/Israelite/Jewish people, depending on the historic period to which one refers.

Political Zionism – as opposed to historic Zionism that has been the affinity of the Hebrew/Israelite/Jewish people to the land of Zion and Jerusalem from time immemorial – is a product of 19th and 20th century nationalism. It is, in other words, the non-violent national liberation movement of a people, the Jewish people, to re-establish its nation-state in Eretz Israel (Land of Israel), and in this, Zionism is simply another component of Jewish civilization, or Judaism.

The greatest achievement of Zionism, and Judaism, during the 20th and 21st centuries has been indeed the re-establishment of the independent of Israel. Before passing any judgment, I strongly suggest that critics Google for and read Israel's Proclamation of Independence, 14 May 1948, and try to appreciate Israel's hope and aspirations regarding the Jewish people but also Israel's Arab neighbors.

I challenge any here to show me a similar peaceful and progressive document that has ever been issued by Israel's Arab neighbors!!!

Carl Jones
14 January 2009 at 13:08

Amihai, this publication is censored, I have also lost a comment on this thread, this morning, just as I posted it, they are viewing what we write in real time. Now Ben Davis would have us believe the NS can afford the cost, I`m not so sure. I think that once a site beomes a potential problem, the SIS gives the owner two options, they pickup the bill, or the site goes through the SIS clearing centre. This used to happen on the BBC forums. I was on premoderation...post pre-read before posting, but 10 minutes, or a short time "period" after, my post was censored again, no doubt by parties external of the BBC.

Try commenting legally to a newspaper article, but destroy an aspect of the article, it won`t get published, even if your argument is sound.

Zen
14 January 2009 at 13:17

Carl Jones 12:21 You declare:

“the IDF went into Gaza and kidnapped 6 Palistinians [sic]...this broke the peace.”

What you intentionally fail to mention is that these Gazans were digging a tunnel under the border fence into Israel, in breach of the cease-fire agreements (as well as still firing rockets at innocent civilians). This is a typical example of the disingenuous efforts made by Judeophobics to slur Israel for culpability of crimes and offences that it has not committed.

You would be better advised to focus on what crimes you can PROVE that the Israelis have committed. It is also no good to blurt out an accusation of a war crime, when one is innocent until proven guilty. Well perhaps one is innocent until proven guilty unless one is a Jew, in which case one is guilty until proven innocent.

For your information the IDF have got used to false allegations against them and are fighting with these false allegations in mind. They have special trained soldiers and lawyers who collect evidence before and during firefights. I think you will see that they are scrupulously adhering the to letter of the law when it comes to military conduct.

It is telling that those attacking Israel make no mention of the self-evident and confessed war crimes of Hamas: They have admitted to slaughtering over 377 Israeli civilians since Oslo.

The problem with you coach potatoes clamouring for the lynching of Jews for war crimes they did not commit is that it encourages those poor souls you push into the fight against Israel. Stop fooling the Gazans that theirs is a just fight and that they stand a chance to win. You commentators are as responsible for the slaughter as the Israelis are. Perhaps if you showed a little more balance Hamas would not feel so emboldened to fire rockets at civilians in Israel.

The ignorant self-righteous, racist and cowardly indignation with which Judeophobics push Gazans into conflict with Israel is quite astounding.

Zen
14 January 2009 at 13:19

Carl Jones 13:08

Stop complaining about moderation; perhaps if you avoid libel and defamation you might get published more often.

Peaceful
14 January 2009 at 14:28

Thank you Ms Hurndall, for your support and truthfullness.

Bullies will continue to shout us down as they always have, calling anyone angainst israel anti-semite or liars, and I commend you for your bravery to speak up with the truth despite all the hatred and fear embedded in the minds of teh Israeli people through the controlled media for the last 60 years. If only they went into Gaza themselves, they would see that those suffering are human just like they are and just need help, religion is not a factor, as Prof Rosenhead and Prof Cushman found, humanity is.

You are an inspiration to us all. As are the many Jewish people who are standing up for the Gazan children when the governments of the world sit back and have meeting after meeting only to be vitoed by the US.

Thank you

Amihai
14 January 2009 at 15:06

"What if Israel defended its citizens the way the British, the French, the Americans and the Russians did? When German rockets hit British cities during the World War II, Prime Minister Winston Churchill retaliated by bombing German cities, killing thousands of German civilians, and promised to continue until Germany's unconditional surrender.

"The United States did the same following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. The French did much worse in Algeria and the Russians showed no concern for civilian life in Chechnya or Georgia.

"The IDF, on the other hand, has gone to extraordinary lengths to minimize civilian casualties, despite the reality that Hamas deliberately fires its rockets from densely populated civilian areas and hides its rocket launchers in schools, hospitals and mosques".

So writes Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1170359815127&pag...

Cybertiger
14 January 2009 at 15:54

There is discussion today in The Guardian about how international justice could be brought to bear on the crimes of the democratic State of Israel,

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/14/israel-gaza-un-c...

"Questions are also being raised as to whether the international criminal court, which deals with war crimes and crimes against humanity, would have any jurisdiction to hear cases against perpetrators of the alleged crimes on both sides of the conflict. Neither Israel nor the Palestinian territories are signatories to the Rome statute, which brings states within the jurisdiction of the ICC. More likely, experts say, is the establishment of ad-hoc tribunals of the kind created to deal with the war in the former Yugoslavia and the genocide in Rwanda. "If there were the political will there could be an ad-hoc tribunal established to hear allegations of war crimes," Falk said. "This could be done by the general assembly acting under article 22 of the UN charter which gives them the authority to establish subsidiary bodies.""

Power to the elbow of the UNGA - bring it on!

writeon
14 January 2009 at 16:49

Amihai,

Obviously if Israel committed warcrimes on the scale of the countries Alan Dershowitz mentions, terror bombing of virtually defenceless cities and their civilian populations, this would be a monumental crime of historic proportions. But even though Israel isn't committing warcrimes on the same scale as the allies during world war two, it's still arguably, and I believe clearly involved in warcrimes in Gaza and because Israel is a democracy, of a kind, either Israeli or international courts should prosicute Israeli politicians and military leaders.

Israeli leaders have over the last few weeks not only given orders for warcrimes, they have also spoken openly about giving orders for military attacks using language which are admissions of warcrimes, and not just once but over and over again. But of course Israel is a special case and is outside the normal laws applied to other democracies.

How is it possible to call oneself a democracy and have leaders that are proud, almost boastful, war-criminals?

And yes, I'd also put the individuals guilty of firing rockets into Israel on trial for warcrimes too. Perhaps we could have one big trial for all of them?

Brewster
14 January 2009 at 17:09

Wow, what a lot of hate-filled messages from Zionist media puppets. Not unexpected, sadly.

Thank you for sharing your experiences, Jocelyn. Your article is deeply moving and inspiring. Peace be with you.

ali8ea
14 January 2009 at 17:33

Amiha.

So we can feel thankfull and so can the Palestinian prisoners that only up to 500 women and children have been killed because the israeli butchering machine has spared the rest!! You are assuming that the other 500 that have been killed which are male were all Hamas fighters. So from this we can say that any male in the Gaza prison is fair game to be butchered and if he happens to be sheltering with his family when a bomb hits then "well the Hamas animals hide behind women and children". You and your fellow deniars of war crimes have de-humanised the Palestinian people by your sick lies and distortions of the truth that you hope the world will not care how many innocent Palestinian lives are lost. Your government has refused press access so the truth will not come out. Exactly as the US military did in Falluja in Iraq. Today the spokesman for the UN who visited the hospitals has spoken of children with bullet holes to their heads and bodies. Already got your script of denial and accusation of "it was the Hamas animals" ready for this one have you? The only animals who live in the middle east are the israeli animals who carry on with the constant killing of Palestinian children. How many Palestinian children and the older generation walk round with only one eye when they have been shot in the face by israeli animals with rubber bullets? How many Palestinian children are orphans because of the sanctioned assassination of "militants" that also killed hundreds of innocent Palestinians who happened to be trying to carry on with some type of existance in the Palestinian prisons. This is the type reason that resistance exists. If the Palestinian people are denied a homeland on the borders as decreed by the UN then they should be given the rights as the rest of Israel and allowed to vote in the upcomming elections.

ali8ea
14 January 2009 at 17:57

Zen.

Do you live on the same planet as the rest of the world. In the space of 8 weeks of fighting in Lebanon and the Gaza prison camp, the murderous israeli army haave so far killed over 2000 civilians. Is this all made up? If the israeli military were to be believed then no innocent civilians have died. You must be sub human to even think this. On the ground are UN and independant observers who clarify what is going on but because denial is your chosen subject they are wrong. It is people like you who should be held to account. It is your kind that keeps this open wound festering. Every time there is a chance of peace, you and your kind come along and start scratching the wound again.

Since Oslo, as you wish to quote, you say 377 Israeli civilians have been killed by Palestinians. Why have you omitted to mention the 5000 Palestinians who have been killed by israelis since the year 2000 alone? God knows how many have been killed in the previous 7yrs when Israel would not budge an inch to ensure the Oslo accord would work.

Amihai
14 January 2009 at 19:11

Note, this conflict in Gaza can stop now. All that Hamas need to do is what the entire international community, i.e. UN, EU, US, Russia, Arab states, PA presidency, has expected of it since January 2006:

1) Cease all acts of terror and violence, as called for by previously singed agreements with Israel

2) Adhere to previously signed agreements with Israel, including the non-delivery of illicit weapons and explosives into Gaza

3) Recognize Israel's right to exist, instead of calling for it, both by creed and deed, to be erased off the face of the earth and with it its people and all traces of Jewish civilization in this national homeland of the Jewish people.

And, I would add, the release of Gilad Shalit.

But Hamas has chosen a different route than peace and economic development. It has set out to bring about that for which its Charter call.

What would your country do - I am not British, obviously - if for eight years its citizens were being attacked daily by rockets and mortar shells? What would your country do even after eight months of such attacks, after eight days of such agression??!!

Brewster
14 January 2009 at 19:29

"Resistance" is an argument that terrorists may use to convice the desperate to embrace the politics of despair. Just the same way the Israelis may use the argument of "defence" to convince people to embrace the politics of brute force. Neither is really justified, if we're honest.

And, whilst we'd like to describe those who kill and terrorise and torture as animals, they are inescapably human beings. We have to live with that fact and somehow work through it. The soldier, the terrorist, the doctor, the child: they are all human. The three religions that have caused so much pain and suffering in the middle east all know this in their hearts. I just pray they start listening to their hearts, and soon.

Zen
14 January 2009 at 20:38

Brewster 19:29

Human beings? I thought you said many commentators here are (to quote you): "hate filled Zionist media puppets". Clearly from this statement only people who agree with you are human.

Make up your mind please you are confusing me.

writeon
14 January 2009 at 21:15

Brewster,

Human beings are capable of extraordinary acts of violence, unspeakable crimes, terror.

My grandmother used to pull a cart around from farm to farm, pulled by her three daughters. They knew where Jewish families were hiding. Fascists shot all four of them in the back of the head and dumped them in a ditch.

On the other hand we have Tom Hurndall. Humans are also capable of great acts of kindness, mercy, self-sacrifice and love. One can also be murdered for love, like Tom. What was truly shameful was the lack of real vigour from the British Government in forcing the Israelis to punish the people responsible for Tom's murder, they dragged their feet, and Jack Straw, huffed and puffed, but did nothing. He could have called the British ambassdor home, he could have withdrawn credit facilities, he could have stood up and demanded action. He acted like servant confronting his master, afraid of his own shadow, truly pathetic.

If Hamas are called terrorists, what does one call the Israeli attacks on Gaza? We have to acknowledge the different scale of the two sides terrorism. One is a dwarf, the other a giant. Mega-terrorism State terrorism? Can a state really be defined as democratic and at the same time terrorise and kill hundreds and hundreds of people who are more or less defenceless? And if one examines Israeli ministers statements carefully, they actually admit what they are doing, targetting civilians. I am not making this up. I swear it's true.

Think of Tom as just another innocent victim of a awsomely powerful war-machine that kills whenever and whoever it wants to and nobody can stop it, in fact we support this killing machine, this killing state. A state that can kill Tom and kill hundreds of Palestinians with the same blunt disregard and impunity. And just like with Tom our craven politicians daren't say a real word of criticism. History allowed to repeat itself over and over again, only the river of blood just flows faster and faster towards hell

peacenik22
14 January 2009 at 22:22

To Zen,

While i am sure that some of the people who condemn Israel are anti-semitic and "judeophobic", you cannot say that everyone who has a conflicting view to your own is antisemitic. to do so is small minded, bigoted and patently a ridiculous suggestion. i would like to say that while i understand the Israeli people's desire to preserve their security and the undoubted odiousness of Hamas, the callous actions of the IDF in Gaza cannot be waved away. The bombing of UN schools that have acted as refugee shelters may not have been intentional but it shows a blatant disregard for human life that does Israel no favours with internation opinion. all that will come out of the actions of both Hamas and the IDF in the long run is that peace will be harder to establish and that hundreds more innocents on both sides will be killed, injured and traumatised.

Carl Jones
14 January 2009 at 23:41

Its AMAZING, the NEWSTATESMAN won`t censor the IDF Cyber Army.LOL

hypocrites
15 January 2009 at 00:41

Carl

the new statesman website comments pages look like a complete mess; i think the editor must be in league with some aliens.

explodingbadger
15 January 2009 at 03:18

The excuse for the most recent Israeli atrocity is the Hamas rockets. So for any rational person the next question has to be why are they firing rockets. The obvious answer the siege, the wall, the illegal settlements, stealing of land and reasources and so on and so on. The Hamas rockets are nothing compared to the huge Israeli arsenal of weapons used on the Palestinians, F16s, Tanks, White Phosphorous and so on. How many Israelis die compared to the Palestinians ?

Israel doesn't want peace or a settlement it wants to live in an ethnically pure state. Strange a people who once were victims or such actions are now the perpetrators.

Amihai
15 January 2009 at 07:45

Persistent eyewitness reports and photographs tell of Hamas's leaders hiding in the basement of the Shifa Hospital of Gaza, using the civilians in this medical facility as human shields, a form of war crimes.

Also, similar reports, based on photo documentation, accuse Hamas's armed forces of producing weapons and explosives and stockpiling them in mosques, in UN managed schools and in people's homes and firing them from kindergarten yards and the yards of medical facilities, which also amount to war crimes and crimes against humanity.

And of course, Hamas's exclusive targets for many years have been population canters in Israel – the blue colour towns of S'derot, Ashqelon, the universities of Beer Sheba and Sapir, and the collective and cooperative farming communities and their residents, of southern Israel - also considered war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Israel has been seeking an accommodation of peaceful co-existence with its Arab neighbors, in Gaza and elsewhere. But Israel, as any other country, can not allow for its citizens to be targeted day in and day out for years by those whose declared goal is the erasing of Israel – a UN member state – off the face of the earth and with it the Jewish civilization in this national homeland of the Jewish people (read Hamas's Charter!!!).

The above, sadly and obviously, explains the loss of life by so many civilians, which is all the more reason why Hamas must be the entity addressed by people of good will worldwide.

When Hamas looses its will and motivation to fire at Israeli children in their kindergartens – some of which have been hit while the toddlers have been sheltered, thus survived - and most of the means with which it conducts its war machine against Israel's civilian population is eliminated; when all illicit weapons cease to make their ways into Gaza; and when Gilad Shalit is home, only then this conflict will come to an end.

ikotubo
15 January 2009 at 09:39

My only surprise, so far, is that Israel hasn't yet deployed its nuclear weapons against the Palestinians. You may kid yourselves into believeing that it wouldn't do such a thing, but it seems to me that if you can't see anything wrong with murdering numerous children and UN/Red Cross staff, it's the clearest indication that you have no moral limits. But I am convinced that the only reason it hasn't done so is because it can't do so without also killing its own people.

In any event, we don't yet know which of its frightening array of nasty weaponry it has chosen to deploy in Gaza. In 2006, it used cluster bombs in built-up areas, in the certain knowledge, not just of the immediate consequence, but of long-term ones. For example, long afterwards, Lebanese children were still being killed and maimed after playing with these bomblets, which, I'm told, look remarkably like toys!!!

But perhaps we're wrong to blame Israel itself (though it must naturally bear the primary responsibility for these horrific crimes), for one thing is certain: It would never behave in this abominable manner without the active support and encouragement of Europe and America.

Brewster
15 January 2009 at 11:58

@ Zen, 20:38, 14 Jan

'"hate filled Zionist media puppets". Clearly from this statement only people who agree with you are human.'

Not at all. Some people posting here are self-evidently filled with hatred and rage--on both sides of the argument, and perhaps with justification, but there it is. Some posters are self-evidently supporting the hard-line position of Israel's Zionists, and many people now know that the Zionist PR machine has an army of volunteers using special software which enables them to locate and comment on public discussions about Israel.

But at no point did I describe anybody as less than human. And I don't mind who agrees with me or not. I'm simply expressing my point of view.

@ writeon, 21:15, 14 Jan

I agree with all you say. I think if one thing is evident of the last 100 years of human history, it's that complex systems and machines massively infulence individual choice and have swathes of us behaving in a sub-human way--in democracies as well as despots. This is why articles like Joyce's are so important. They remind us of how real individuals are affected. When we forget that, or stop caring, and when we find ourselves describing other people as animals, we are treading the same slippery path as people in Nazi Germany, or Rwanda.

jednightingale
15 January 2009 at 17:42

Sadly enough, after three years since Israel pulled out of Gaza, Hamas has hardly advanced the Palestinian cause. Rather than try to better the lives of Palestinians, Hamas has chosen an ideology bent on detroying Israel and herself. In some ways the Hamas/Palestinian approach continues to follow a defeatist Palestinian tradition that extends more than sixty years. Let us recall that the Palestinian leadership in 1948 advocated the destruction of Israel and convinced neighboring Arab states to be dragged into a war against the Israel. They lost that war and in addition they lost sovereingty over the lands that the UN had partioned to them (Egypt took over Gaza and Jordan took over the West Bank). That defeat also created the ongoing Palestinian and Jewish refugee problem that the entire Arab community has refused to address. The last sixty years of Palestinian leadership have also been very inept diplomatically, economically as well as militarily. Arafat's walking out on the Camp David Peace conference, his support of Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait, the stealing of millions of dollars by Arafat and the uncontrolled corruption of Fatah as well as the uncompromising posture of Hamas have provided little fruit. Hopefully, a new page can get started after this last tragic episode is finished.

adnanagram
15 January 2009 at 21:03

Israeli "surgical strikes" ("aimed only at Hamas targets") have now hit the UN, Reuters, schools, hospitals and ambulances, the wrong side of the border with Egypt, grainstores and markets, electricity, water and sewage infrastructure (not to mention houses where Palestinians have been told to seek shelter by the IDF who then shell them 24 hours later). Indeed the IDF seem to have been rather better at killing their own troops in friendly fire incidents than has Hamas. And still they trundle out the lies about surgical strikes, "purity of arms" and their deep care for innocent civilians. This is nothing more or less than a war crime and no other country on Earth would be allowed to get away with it.

ali8ea
16 January 2009 at 17:38

jednightingale.

Are you trying to tell the world that israel has been justified to have killed thousands of Palestinians for the last 67yrs? It is you who is an extremist with views like that.

Yesterday, Jeremy Weinstock, who was the British ambassador to the UN stated,

"since the israeli closure of the borders with Gaza, over 200 Palestinians have died because they could not get to proper medical centres for the correct treatment. This was down to the refusal of the israelis to allow them to travel to get it". israel closed the borders after a democratic election took place and Hamas won. The Palestinians were barred from travelling outside of the Gaza strip unless the israelis agreed. Fisherman were not allowed to fish because israeli gunboats shot them or their boats.

Land gains from war is illegal. Period. Your bleating will not change this. If you seriously think that Hamas tried to destroy israel with home made rockets then you are deluded. Hamas has always stated they will live alongside israel but certain conditions needed to be met. Only your twisted lies says otherwise. Sderot was a Palestinian town. The reason why there is so many Palestinians in Gaza iss because they fled from there. Then the advancing israelis destroyed their houses so they could not move back!

Try reading the history behind what has actually happened and stop reading israeli propaganda papers. You start to have a more balanced view if you see who actually might be the victim.

writeon
17 January 2009 at 09:18

But the Israeli nationalists don't want 'peace.' At least not a fair peace. A fair peace would mean them having to withdraw to their 'fair' share of historic Palesine, behind the 1967 borders. They don't want to do this. They want to have more land than that. And they aren't interested in a strong and viable Palestinian state. Why would they be? Surely an weak and unviable Palestinian state is in their interests?

lisa1211
17 January 2009 at 09:21

Dear Jocelyn

Thank you for writing this eloquent article - that brings the truth home.

Once again, I am sorry for your loss.

I wish Israel would also have the humanity and decency to apologise.

Huda

ikotubo
17 January 2009 at 14:25

Perhaps, instead of rightly fighting and defeating Nazi Germany (remember that other all-powerful rogue state was driven by a racial supremacist ideology?), the world should have indulged it in the same way as it now indulges Israel. At least, we wouldn't have some of the contributors on this site attempting to justify the deliberate slaughter of children and the targetting of UN and Red Cross staff - in the name of "fighting terror."

But actually, I'm glad that they are here, and am equally grateful that they are given the opportunity to reveal what they truly represent.

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